Sunday Morning Open Thread

Here we go again.

Here's something to chew on. In a month, maybe literally:

Coronavirus may cause some food shortages, warns government task force

WASHINGTON — The nation could begin to see food shortages for some products if the people working on the supply chain lack personal protective equipment, warns an internal Trump administration document obtained by Yahoo News.

Empty supermarket shelves have become one of the most jarring images of the coronavirus pandemic, which has sickened 270,000 Americans and killed 7,000. But so far, there have been no food shortages, despite 90 percent of the American population being under state-enforced lockdown orders.

And despite the difficulties people have had in obtaining certain foods, like pasta, grocery stores are generally well stocked. Government officials have argued that any temporary shortages are the result of unprecedented demand, as people have bought more than usual, rather than an actual supply-chain breakdown.

“I want to assure you that our food supply chain is sound,” Sonny Perdue, the secretary of agriculture, said on March 20.

That, however, could change if the people who make, package and deliver food lack personal protective equipment, or PPE, including face masks and gloves, according to the internal document shared with Yahoo News, which provides a daily update on various aspects of the coronavirus response, including details ranging from state-by-state infections to hospital capacity and test sites.

The document, titled “Senior Leadership Brief COVID-19” and dated April 2, 2020, bears the seals of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the Department of Homeland Security and the Department of Health and Human Services. It contains a brief description of findings made by the Food Supply Chain Task Force on the availability of PPE. 

Such equipment has been in short supply in hospitals, where doctors and nurses are routinely exposed to high amounts of coronavirus. The food industry also relies on a variety of protective equipment for food safety.

The April 2 briefing warns that the task force had completed an analysis and there could be “commodity impacts if current PPE inventory is exhausted.” There would be shortages of milk within 24 hours and of fresh fruits and vegetables “within several days.” The document estimates that “meat, poultry, seafood, and processed eggs” would become scarce within a period of two to four weeks, while “dry goods and processed foods inventories” — that is, the non-perishables that are pantry staples — could become scarce “as soon as four weeks” after face masks and gloves run out across the food supply chain.

The document is a warning, and is not descriptive of the current situation. There are no signs of a food shortage across the nation. But the coronavirus pandemic is putting strain on every aspect of the food supply chain, from the people who raise and grow what we eat to the people who deliver it to our supermarkets.

Here's hoping.

Comments

[lyle]

https://thenationalpulse.com/coronavirus/bush-masks-china/

The George H.W. Bush Foundation has helped donate two million masks to China despite American healthcare workers approaching dire shortages of the vital equipment, and the American public now being advised to wear masks.

Despite GHWB’s name on the foundation, betcha money its run completely by progtards.

Oh, and first.

[Jane]

I ran out of paper plates today. How rude!!!

[GUS]

Virtue signalling to COMMUNIST BASTARDS.

I'm sure the FULL COMMIES love the BUSH FAMILY now.

[Porchlight]

Good morning! Best meme of last night:

[Jack Lillywhite]

Here’s hoping.

As Chuck Knox told the L.A. Rams, “Those who hope, die in shit.”

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--In a new interview, Bill Gates authoritatively states that mass public gatherings will not come back "at all" --

Not if we rely on frickin windows to coordinate them you gruesome little geek.
The junk product he suckered the world into buying should mark him as an authority on nothing besides flim-flammery.

At some point the young and healthy better revolt to get their lives back. Either that or Trump will have to cut the Gordian knot of shutting the whole world down.
This is like everyone else having to live in a bubble because bubbleboy doesn't have an immune system or nobody being able to use a knife or play outside because some people have hemophilia.

[Porchlight]

Bill Gates needs to STFU. And Teams sucks.

[Extraneus]

I was just reading somewhere recommending that Biden pick Gates as his VP.

[Extraneus]

Here it is. David Bernstein.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/363842/

[Jack Lillywhite]

S/b “Those who live in hope....”

[Extraneus]

If he's smart he'll ditch the identity politics promise to pick a woman and pick Cuomo.

[Porchlight]

Trump is in a bind for sure. The good news is that the hospitalization rate is, as I understand it, nowhere near that predicted by the IHME model.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1246825831864963073

Maybe recognizing the above, in combination with widely available HCQ/Z-pack, can be the first steps toward getting people back to work and back to school.

This has to be the focus after Holy Week and will certainly be the focus of my prayer.

Okay time to drag the kids out of bed.

[JimNorCal]

In email ... sounds plausible

[JimNorCal]

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[Manuel Transmission]

That figures: willowed.

I’ll have to think a bit about the many folks we’ve met at elbow rubbing gatherings, but the two that stick out for their serendipity (and which I’ve prolly told before) are: 1) Elliott Gould who walked up to me and struck up a conversation at LAX. It was mid 90s and I was returning from one of my earlier trips to China. I had cleared customs and was waiting for my flight back to Cowlumbus. The attraction was a dragon walking stick I had hung over the handle of my luggage cart. He spotted that from the adjacent room and came over. After telling him how I acquired it (in a very remote part of southern China in a near aboriginal village), he brought up William Holden and waxed on for a bit on how Bill had a thing about China and spent a lot of time there. EG was at the airport waiting for his son who was arriving for some relatively nearby location as I recall.

2) Returning from another trip from China, this time by way of CYVR and a bus to Bellingham where I was waiting to be picked up in a helo by a friend, I’m waiting in the tiny FBO building about a block from the main terminal all by myself and in walks Bill and Melinda and their two younger kids. They take up a couple seats in the opposite corner of this tiny area about 8 ft away. I’m positioned to look out the window for my ride which is also looking directly at them. So this turns into me being at the zoo watching rare exotic animals, but without the intervening glass. It proved everything I already despised about them. Bill couldn’t give a shit about the kids. Kept his nose in a book. Mama exerted minimal effort keeping them busy. The kids maybe 8 and 5 had a blank fog like stare as though there was nothing humming inside. I think one might have had a coloring book, but the overall signal was these two little ones were doomed to be useless little rich drones. And of course, never any acknowledgement that I was sitting there during the 30-40 minutes they were there.

[rse]

MT-

I sat next to the then ceo of apple on a flight from ATL to SF in the 90s and he made a comment that it was bill's mom who was the brains of the family and recognized the implications of retaining title to the software operating system IBM would be using.

My lie was ted turner although my parents ran into him and jane fonda in a doctor's building elevator by n'side hospital here. The rest I met as a student or law student or in the case of julia child at a hotel in SF where she was taken with my son's curls when he was about 4 and we were all in the same elevator. She ran her hand through it while proclaiming with that famous accent "what a cute little boy". Since he is a tall alpha type adult it does rather make for a funny story.

[Rocco]

More on Gates and vaccines.

Shockingly, Gates also suggests people be made to have a digital ID showing their vaccination status, and that people without this “digital immunity proof” would not be allowed to travel. Such an approach would mean very big money for vaccine producers.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/04/did-bill-gates-just-reveal-the-reason-behind-the-lock-downs/

H/T thedonald.win

[Ralph L]

The kids maybe 8 and 5 had a blank fog like stare as though there was nothing humming inside

Possibly "on the Spectrum"... or tranquilizers.

[henry]

Rocco, as if Gates wouldn’t charge for the digital ID. May the blue screen of death be upon him.

[GUS]

rse, I played golf with Henry Fonda and my Grandfather at Augusta. Back in the 20th century.

[Manuel Transmission]

RSE, yeah, I vaguely recall that Bill’s mom was on a board, maybe Red Cross and some IBM bigshot was, too. Back room favor. Paul Allen was the brains, if you give them any credit at all.

BTW a cousin of my mom’s lived across the street from Paul when he was a kid and Bill would come over to Paul’s and hang out. I think early HS. The cousin used to get invited to ride with Paul in his 757 down to games Paul’s team was playing (Trailblazers?)

[Rocco]

Gates warns Trump not to appoint a safety commission to look into the deadly effects of vaccines.

https://twitter.com/DeepStateExpose/status/1246204709901303809

[Rocco]

henry, he's an evil man, and a puppet for big pharma. May the fleas of a thousand elephants infest his crotch.

[Threadkiller]

The good news is that the hospitalization rate is, as I understand it, nowhere near that predicted by the IHME model.

This will become the most contentious statistic during the $2.2-$6.2 trillion lottery sweepstakes. The Government Cheese Factory has promised to foot the bill as long as the hospital bean counters can sneak a Covid reimbursement code somewhere into the bill for the [insert underlying condition] patient.

Big money! Big Money!! BIG MONEY!!! NO WHAMMIES!!!!!

stop....

[boris]

If JMH is still looking for "the initial remarks [Trump] made minimizing the danger" I think this might be it.

From Clarice's 10:38AM:

Biden’s supposed chronicle of Trump administration failures derides the president’s statement on Jan. 22, saying, “We have it totally under control, it is one person, coming in from China…” What was actually happening in the United States on Jan. 22? It was one person coming in from China.

...

On Jan. 17, the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) announced that American citizens returning from travel-restricted countries were being rerouted to specific airports, where they would be screened and isolated. CDC on that day also stated that, “based on current information, the risk from 2019-nCoV to the American public is currently deemed to be low.”

...

On Jan. 21, the first case of coronavirus in the United States was reported, of a man who had traveled from Wuhan, China. That is the case President Trump referred to the next day

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Somebody needs to protect Bill from fists with a live vaccination to the point of his nose.

[James D.]

Shockingly, Gates also suggests people be made to have a digital ID showing their vaccination status, and that people without this “digital immunity proof” would not be allowed to travel. Such an approach would mean very big money for vaccine producers.

Well, fuck that. I don’t care how many grandmas die, I am not accepting Bill Gates’ digital mark of the beast.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Rocco, as if Gates wouldn’t charge for the digital ID.--

The ID would be free, but it would be neither hardware nor software but a "service".
You'd get free updates too with ads running inside your eyes.
And if you refuse the updates, after six months MS would regret to inform you they no longer support your right to have a life.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Welp, I'm going to break quarantine and go have a Sunday drive in the rain.
The natives are getting restless.

[Buckeye]

TK

That is part of the first 10 times stupid money.

I’m sure there is fierce lobbying going on for the next 10 times stupid money.

[clarice]

Scoop Jackson's wife was friendly with Gates' parents. Helen Jackson told me when he dropped out of Harvard his mother bemoaned to her that she feared Bill would turn out to be nothing.

[Threadkiller]

Yep, buckeye.

[MissMarple2]

https://gayletrotter.com/press-conferences-show-desperately-biased-media-are-no-match-for-president-trump/

The President retweeted several excerpts from this column, but I thought the entire piece was worth reading.

[Buckeye]

There are many lessons to learn from this pandemic.

I’m not sure we should waste the time learning them.

Next time around everyone will have their shock collar on and HAL9000 will keep us in line.

[Rocco]

Bill Gates is spending billions to produce 7 potential coronavirus vaccines.

https://twitter.com/MichaelCoudrey/status/1246523586048749568

[MissMarple2]

Chuck Schumer
@SenSchumer
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16h
I spoke to Inspector General Michael Atkinson tonight, thanked him for his service, and told him that history will remember him as a hero and those who retaliated against him as scoundrels.
======================================
Probably also wrote Atkinson a check.

[Rocco]

Gates is on Chris Wallace's show shortly.

[Narciso]

Is yahoo trying to spark shortages and riots because thats what this is meant to do. Where are thr distribution point in ny, and new jers3y.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.sunjournal.com/2020/04/03/austin-bay-chinas-huawei-gambit-5g-viral-spies/

[JimNorCal]

TM's header: "“I want to assure you that our food supply chain is sound,” Sonny Perdue, the secretary of agriculture, said on March 20.

That, however, could change if the people who make, package and deliver food lack personal protective equipment, or PPE, including face masks and gloves, according to the internal document"

I hope that by the time we reach that point, that the PTB consider the alternative of opening up the economy again. Allow people to fall ill, recover and come back to work. Within a matter of a few weeks the whole problem will be a bit of history in the rear view mirror.

[jimmyk]

Jane:I drop Jimmy's name too Buckeye.

That and a two bucks will get you a cup of coffee.

I was thinking that just as Trump's election revealed a lot of people's inner scum or psychological problems, the pandemic is revealing a lot of people's wishes to micromanage our lives and undertake big social engineering projects. Never waste a crisis.

[MissMarple2]

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/04/whose-side-is-nancy-pelosi-really-on

A good question, and I vote for China.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/sit-your-butt-in-a-jail-ohio-prosecutor-has-no-patience-for-violators-of-stay-at-home-order

[Captain Hate]

history will remember him as a hero and those who retaliated against him as scoundrels.

What history would that be, prick? Howard Zinn's?

[Narciso]

A change of pace:

http://theprovidencechurch.sermon.net/main/main/20807195

[Rocco]

Garrison lampoons Gates

https://thedonald.win/p/FMSuxU6S/ben-garrison-bill-gates-as-vacci/c/

[GUS]

How about Bill Gates kiss my digital ass. TWICE.

[Threadkiller]

Thomas Massie
@RepThomasMassie

Congress is the most dysfunctional enterprise I’ve ever seen.

There are genuinely qualified members from all walks of life, from both sides of aisle, who could help form rational policy.

But power has been consolidated at the top with the most incompetent and power hungry.

The fact that leadership won’t even allow remote voting is indicative of their desire to keep all power to themselves.

The fact that they can’t even hold hearings via teleconference demonstrates their incompetence.

I’m talking about both sides of the aisle.

So now they’ve defaulted to Congressional paralysis.

They will try to tell us to stay home for the next vote as well.

Like the governors who are wrecking our economy, the top folks in Congress need replaced when this is over.

Never again should they be called “leaders.”

Can we put the earmarks, the ass kissing, the cronyism, and the partisan crap aside until this is over?

If Congress won’t meet in person, let’s use a modicum of technology to get all of congress working on this problem.

The alternative is unconstitutional and dangerous

[Pinandpuller]

If Bill Gates is in the conversation about a return to normalcy you’re in the wrong conversation.

[Pinandpuller]

rse

Julia Child actually improved people’s lives.

[Pinandpuller]

Political Power grows out of the barrel of a syringe.

[joan]

Jane: "I ran out of paper plates today. How rude!!!"

I love seeing your posts!

[anonamom]

Oh, rse! i was thinking I'd met few famous people--but I too met Julia Child!

I was in line at the service desk at the Mt. Auburn Rd. Star Market one Saturday morning in 1983 or 84, to return fish that was less than fresh when I had opened the package to prepare dinner the previous night.
(it being a Friday and Lent and all) when I heard as I was explaining my problem-which could be smelled, in that unique voice and accent:

"Well, what do you expect??? Who would ever buy fish from Staaaarrr Market when Greer's is just down the road?"

From that day forth, I bought all fish at Greer's.

[Rocco]

Any Queen fans out here?

Coronavirus Rhapsody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KPbJ0-DxTc

[joan]

ABC to Mike Pence on his Christian faith:

I always think the media can't surprise and disgust me any more, but then I see something like this:

https://tinyurl.com/qr3zud9

This guy (look at the expression on his face, especially near the end) is a piece of shit.

[Jane]

TK,

Unlike most, I like Massie a lot.

the pandemic is revealing a lot of people's wishes to micromanage our lives and undertake big social engineering projects. Never waste a crisis.

We call them socialists. Bernie Sanders is truly winning!

Just saw the queen. She's doing amazingly for that age. Guess she doesn't have the virus as was reported.

[GUS]

Heard that yesterday Rocco. Very funny.

GOTTA LAY LOW GOTTA LAY LOW.....

[JM Hanes]

Jane:

I loved the story of your serendipitous friendship with Red Bond. There really are adventures to be had that can change our lives in totally unexpected ways.

[D]

Steph:
You met MLK!
Wow, that is amazing.
RSE: I thought for sure you met Ted Turner because of living in Atlanta.
Any other answers for people’s lists?

[D]

Jane:
Agree!
The Queen looks great and as usual is unflappable.
Rocco:
Love Queen.

[D]

Joan:
All the people mocking religion will have to answer to God for that one day.

[Ralph L]

Worldometers has added cases and deaths per 1 million state population. Happy to see NC is still tied with Utah at 3/mil.

[D]

I just got a text from a Bernie supporter asking if I am for Bernie.
He is not going away much to the chagrin of Joe Biden.This is the worst presidential campaign of my lifetime.
Crozier has the Corona Virus.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Maryrose, He, Ralph Abernethy and Julian Bond were all clients of my dad's. I was about 3 and used to crawl up into his lap. But I did know him. And Ralph and Julian were my dad's clients for years. Ralph and Juanita were nice folks til the CR movement morphed into a money game, and Julian was an absolute dead beat. I'd have to go down to the capital about once every three months or so to collect his premiums after they bounced.

[henry]

No election delay.

TMJ4

Gov. Tony Evers called for a special session Saturday afternoon to discuss a mail-only election in place of Tuesday's in-person vote. Lawmakers gaveled in and adjourned in a matter of seconds.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

O M G Syfy has a Sharknado binge on today. I am such a sucker for crappy disaster movies (and Japanese Godzilla movies).

[Jim Eagle]

We are big Queen fans here both the Mercury kind and the Elizabeth II kind:) That was a superb parody on the Corona Virus Rhapsody.

Adding to famous people you know: Cap Weinberger was our General Counsel a the time Reagan called him and Schultz to join the cabinet. After he left a few days later, the entire legal department went into a bar in the Embarcadero and got shit faced celebrating his leaving. He was despised by every lawyer in the department.

I had to brief him once and flew with him to DC. A perfect asshole.

[JM Hanes]

boris! and clarice!

Thanks so much! I must have somehow just read right over clarice's link. Those are exactly the remarks I've been trying to locate on my timeline, and I really appreciate your picking up on them for me. I've saved the whole article to my talking points file.

There is one additional element I have yet to track down (not asking for help on this one, as I just haven't gotten around to it). As I recall the State Dept. unilaterally decided to bring its people back from China without informing the prez or making any attempt to screen or quarantine them on their return. I'm not sure whether that's an accurate reflection of what actually happened or what the consequences were seen to be. I also don't know whether Pompeo had any involvement in that decision, but it seems unlikely that he would not have informed or consulted with the President, doesn't it? The State Dept is yet another nest of DC vipers.

[Jim Eagle]

How about Bill Gates kiss my digital ass. TWICE.

GUS,

Don't know Gates or Jobs but I spent 10 days at sea with Dave Wozniak on a MacMania Cruise in 2011. He and Frederick bonded big time since Frederick was about 71/2 at the time and was always bugging Wozniak about his vacuum tube watch and the games he and his wife were playing on dueling PC's. She was the head of product development at Apple at the time and like him a NERD. Woz was scaring the passengers out by pointing his laser pen at their hearts or foreheads. He is a jolly ole elf:)

[Jane]

Thanks JMH. I love that we are still friends.

[Pinandpuller]

Independent testing showed that a vaccine in Kenya was contaminated with hCG hormone, potentially rendering up to 3 million women sterile. The WHO stepped in to dismiss the allegations, saying that the vaccine is safe. Why would the WHO lie?

https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1246883759795904512?s=21

[Rocco]

Quercetin and Vitamin D — Allies Against Coronavirus

As reported by Maclean’s,4 Canadian researchers Michel Chrétien and Majambu Mbikay began investigating quercetin in the aftermath of the SARS epidemic that broke out across 26 countries in 2003. They discovered a derivative of quercetin provided broad-spectrum protection against a wide range of viruses, including SARS.5,6

Between Ivermectin and Quercetin, I'm gonna live to be a hundred.

[Rocco]

link

[jimmyk]

Do the JOM readers have suggestions for great books to read while we're shut in? From other blogs I've gotten the following:

Camus, The Plague
Boccaccio, Decameron
Manzoni, I Promessi Sposi (The Betrothed)

The latter's more obscure, but apparently a classic in Italian literature, set in 1600 Lombardy. Available online for free at the Gutenberg project.

Any others? Mrs K has been bugging me to watch 'Contagion,' but I have no interest.

[JM Hanes]

Rocco:

"Shockingly, Gates also suggests people be made to have a digital ID showing their vaccination status"

Yeah. Let's out-Chinese the Chinese. That's the ticket. Speaking of which:

Jim, Sunny:

"the pandemic is revealing a lot of people's wishes to micromanage our lives and undertake big social engineering projects"

You can see why so many folks, Bloomberg among them, find the Chinese so sympatico.

[Extraneus]

a piece of shit.

No kidding, Joan. How do these people avoid physical beatdowns?

[clarice]

jmh, I think this is what you are looking for:https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/22/us/politics/trump-coronavirus-cruise-ship.html

[MJW]

I'm often disappointed with supposed experts. For instance, the surgeon general said on Chris Wallace's show that hydroxychloroquine was being used much at higher doses for CV-19 than for previous uses. I don't think that's accurate. It's really only true for prophylactic use against malaria, where the usual dose is around 400 mg once a week.

I've heard several time that the typical CV-19 dose is 400 mg, twice a day for the first day, then 200 mg twice a day for the next four or so days.

According to RxList the usual dose to treat malaria is 800 mg followed by 400 mg at 6 hours, 24 hours and 48 hours after the initial dose, for a total of 2000 mg. The usual dose to treat lupus is 200 to 400 mg daily, as a single daily dose or in two divided doses. The usual dose to treat rheumatoid arthritis is initially 400 mg to 600 mg as a single daily dose or two divided doses, followed by maintenance doses (once a good response is obtained) of 200 mg to 400 mg daily.

[Ralph L]

pointing his laser pen at their hearts or foreheads

You could put burn an eye out doing that!

[jimmyk]

And for the even fewer opera buffs here, the Met has been streaming a different Live in HD every night (available till 6:30 the next day). Watching Verdi's Macbeth now while trying to get some work done. The other day watched Verdi's 'Don Carlo,' IMO the greatest of all operas (I know, like tallest midget to non buffs). Can't think of many 'plague' operas, though. There's an obscure one called 'A Feast in Time of Plague' based on a Pushkin story. So I guess the Pushkin story can get added to the literary list.

[KevlarKid]

Aren't we referencing COMMUNIST CHINA when we mention "the Chinese?"

[MissMarple2]

Speaking of the Chinese, this guy has put together a theory. Be sure you pay attention to Mike Pence's speech to the Hudson Institute in 2018.

China has attacked the Entire World with a Bio Weapon.

To destroy it's STRUCTURE

Yes, Millions might die, but that's not the GOAL of those who unleashed this.
The GOAL is to destroy the STRUCTURE of a cohesive, interconnected World that TORE N. Korea from their Orbit, supported Taiwan & the Hong Kong Rebellion & was poised to BRING CHINA TO HEEL.

Here's the formatted version:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1244446119452696577.html

Here's the original version with replies:

https://twitter.com/CatesDuane/status/1244476648566726663

[clarice]

I really think it escaped from the Wuhan lab--and was not a deliberate bioweapon.

[JM Hanes]

Man Tran:

Your story about the Gates in the airport doesn't surprise me, although it's pretty revealing. I've always though he was dull as dish water, any way.

I heard a story about Ethel Kennedy's kids, from the man who drove a group of us out to the Green River for a float trip, which revealed a slightly different set of family values -- and whichg probably won't surprise anyone either. He had done the same drive with the Kennedys and said that during a rest stop along the way, the kids filled their pockets with a bunch of stones. Back on the road, they decided it would be great fun to throw them out the windows at other cars, which they proceeded to do. Ethel apparently never even said a word to them about it. It was the driver who finally pulled off the road and told them if they didn't stop he was not going to take them any further.

[Jim Eagle]

jimmyk,

"The Ghost Map" by Steven Johnson. It's about the Cholera epidemic in London in 1854. [My great-great grandfather died of it in August 1854]

A very interesting kind of medical mystery as to how they tracked down the guilty water pumps.....

[MJW]

this guy has put together a theory

Well, if some guy on the Internet has a theory, I've got to pay attention!

[jimmyk]

Thanks, JiB. Reminds me there's "Love in the Time of Cholera," but I don't think that's actually about an epidemic.

[lyle]

If you’re an Emmylou Harris fan (and who isn’t), don’t miss this:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/sunday-morning-coming-down-89.php

[MissMarple2]

MJW,

LOL! My real interest was in the speech Mike Pence gave at the Hudson Institute

[anonamom]

Contagion is good.
Not scary or anxiety provoking, IMO.
I mean, not at this point in time.

[lyle]

Love in the Time of Cholera

I really wanted to like that book but I couldn’t finish it.

[Narciso]

There was even a novel about it the big stink, did dickens address that crisis

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1246825831864963073

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

Perhaps it got out accidentally, but WHY were they making it in the first place?

[Narciso]

They were researching pathogend likr sars.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bhweingarten/status/1246837723744350210

[Extraneus]

I really think it escaped from the Wuhan lab--and was not a deliberate bioweapon.

Me, too. They'd be much further along if Hillary had won, but they were still on their way to world dominance in 20 or 30 years before this. Now those dreams have suffered a major setback and they'll be paying a big price after everything dies down. They'll game what they can to their best possible outcomes, but overall this is not to their advantage. This is why I would worry about a desperation attack, especially after that fool captain's disclosures.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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51m
I will be having a White House CoronaVirus Task Force meeting in a short while. May or may not do a News Conference after the meeting, depending on new information. Talks & meetings today are proving promising, but a rough two weeks are coming up!

[anonamom]

I too agree it was not a deliberate release.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
47m
We are learning much about the Invisible Enemy. It is tough and smart, but we are tougher and smarter!

[jimmyk]

Perhaps it got out accidentally, but WHY were they making it in the first place?

Is the claim that they "made" it, or they discovered it and were doing research on it? Either way, criminally irresponsible, on the level of a war crime.

[boris]

Wuhan lab escape seems more likely than wet market or bio-weapon. But the glee with which the left tries to exploit the crisis has people believing the left is to blame for the release. Compared to that theory China bio-weapon is not so far fetched.

IMO China and the left do seem to share herd immunity to common sense.