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April 29, 2020

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Old Lurker

This one:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/05/was_killing_the_american_economy_absolutely_necessary.html

And especially this part of the piece:

"If we Americans didn’t maintain a popular delusion that our government has an unlimited supply of money to print and throw at any given problem, might we have been compelled to approach things differently?"

This I lay on Trump. Perhaps he was boxed into action by his scientists (also his choice), but he did nothing to dispel this, in fact he embraced it, the most corrosive of all notions which empower nanny states on their way to fascism.

Old Lurker

Cap'n " I guess that officially makes me an old fart."

Oh, you have been one for longer than today!

:-)

Narciso

You live in borg collective no 3, reliable info was hard to come by.

Narciso

We're at the mercy of haagen daz pelosi.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1m
Cryin’ Chuck Schumer was on a late night show using a false talking point over & over again. “We don’t have enough testing ,” he would repeat, when he knows we have done a great job on Testing, just like we have on Ventilators and everything else. He lied, gave NY SALT. Run AOC!

Captain Hate

I was waiting for that, OL, after teeing it up. I was wondering if the blog was broken again other than not seeing some avatars.

Another Bob

I liked the subhead of this: “ Must a weary America be inflicted with Gates’ cosplay as the nation’s top fake expert?”

A taste of the tone:

“Are you a doctor? No, but I slept at the Gates Foundation last night. It’s funny when you are selling Holiday Inn.

It’s not funny when you are a morally vacuous plutocrat selling out a nation’s way of life from the safety of a 65,000 square-foot mansion and a pile of money that, laid end-to-end in $500 bills, would reach the moon and back.”

https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/30/theres-a-bug-in-microsoft-fu-america-2-0

Buckeye

I was tempted CH:)

MissMarple2

President @realDonaldTrump: “We’ve spent 8 trillion dollars in the Middle East and we’re not fixing our roads.” pic.twitter.com/lv1yh2Etfo

— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) April 30, 2020

Video at link.

Old Lurker

You can always count on me, Cap'n. You would do no less.

Old Lurker

We spent more than eight trillion dollars right here at home in only two months and got even less for it.

Captain Hate

Accordingly to The Horde, Mika is hammering Sundown Joe on the Morning Homewreckers.

Narciso


Were still insisting baker has switched sides

https://pjmedia.com/election/j-christian-adams/2020/04/30/leftists-funders-dedicate-millions-to-transform-2020-elections-n387083

James D.

That Taibbi article was good. Of course, he was making the same points that all of us here have understood for years, but baby steps, right?

James D.

Hey, narciso!

I was forwarded your manuscript, and I will read it this weekend.

Still have no idea why your email didn't go through to me directly - the internet is weird, I guess.

MissMarple2

Under President @realDonaldTrump’s leadership, we gave @GM and @MyVOCSN the authority under the Defense Production Act to identify resources and supplies to make life saving ventilators and thousands will be used across the Country to save American lives. pic.twitter.com/Ql35B1jRh7

— Mike Pence (@Mike_Pence) April 30, 2020

Photos at the link.

Narciso

I know some digital ferret must have taken it.

mike in houston

I just got an email from my local IHOP saying that they are open for in house dining. Things seem to be getting back to normal.

Also, I got a very nice card from my vet regarding the passing of my Scottie. It was signed by the whole staff. Never had that happen before.

Melinda

James Greiff
@JamesGreiff
Doesn't Tara Reade have a copy?

Andrew Wilkow @WilkowMajority
Who wants to bet that #TaraReade’s complaint form has been “Sandy Bergered”? #JoeBiden #BelieveAllWomen #MSNBC

https://twitter.com/JamesGreiff/status/1256198732720340992

[Didn't watch Mika's "interview" with JoeMentia, but watched Gilead's CEO try a sales job on CNBC to gloss over Chinese commitments, shares -3% afterwards.]

rse

More confirmation the pandemic hype furthered the SDGs/Mh vision. Remember Sweden is already there as was laid out in The New Totalitarians back in the 70s.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90497442/amsterdam-is-now-using-the-doughnut-model-of-economics-what-does-that-mean

henry

Just got a formulary warning. Albuteral Inhaler shortages due to Covid19.

Narciso

Winning the future

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
23m
Cryin Chuck Schumer, compared to what other Senators have brought home to their states, has brought very little back to N.Y. A totally overrated loser, the one thing he has given them is SALT. He never even called me to stop it. No wonder Cuomo & most others can’t stand him. AOC!

Captain Hate

Also, I got a very nice card from my vet regarding the passing of my Scottie. It was signed by the whole staff. Never had that happen before.

The same thing happened from my vet and her staff when Maggie died.

One of the few positive things I retain about GWB is that he seemed to honestly love his Scotties, Barney and Mrs. Beasley.

Melinda

Well no Stone should go unturned, right CNN?

Josh Dawsey
@jdawsey1
Jerome Corsi, the commentator who narrowly escaped charges in Mueller probe, meant to email Zev Zelenko, a White House-allied doctor, about a hydroxychloroquine project. He instead emailed Aaron Zelinsky, the Mueller prosecutor. A new probe has begun... washingtonpost.com/politics/vladi

https://twitter.com/jdawsey1/status/1256178590498119681


If this is the slattering, well you be the judge:

Mickey White
@BiasedGirl
The admission that the contents of his files would be “campaign fodder” from Joe Biden feels significant.

https://twitter.com/BiasedGirl/status/1256201170223325184

MissMarple2

Dan Bongino
@dbongino
·
12h
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Melinda

They're baaaackk:

Ezra Cheung
@ezracheungtoto
Police in anti-riot gear empty the shopping mall where #antiELAB protesters have assembled chanting slogans and effectively testing the social distancing restrictions put forward by the Hong Kong govt to counter the #coronavirus outbreak. #HongKongProtests

https://twitter.com/ezracheungtoto/status/1256185348960317440

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
2m
The Governor of Michigan should give a little, and put out the fire. These are very good people, but they are angry. They want their lives back again, safely! See them, talk to them, make a deal.

henry

@WSJ

The Education Department is investigating the University of Texas for possible faulty financial disclosures and seeking records of any dealings with Huawei, Zoom’s CEO and the Chinese lab being probed as a potential source of the coronavirus

rse

Got an email from a salon insisting that they would reluctantly open, but anyone coming in had to sign a legal waiver first or their appointment would be cancelled.

What should we expect when the woke owner loves to talk about going to Burning Man.

Can't imagine that will help business. Same person has been fighting with irs for years on whether stylists there are independent contractors as she asserts.

Narciso

Frenchs mustard removes all doubt.

rse

For some observers, the idea of quantifying human life in economic terms sounds heartless. Yet we perform such cost-benefit analyses all the time, both as individuals—when we choose between riding a motorcycle or a station wagon—and as societies—when we choose whether to put more money into cancer research or into studies of rarer diseases. Every developed nation maintains value of statistical life (VSL) measures, for use in planning, transportation, and health policies.

There are social as well as economic costs. The effects of job losses and recession fall hardest on the poor and working class. People living paycheck-to-paycheck, or without savings, are suffering most. As the economy sinks, it takes with it the livelihoods and aspirations of tens of millions of Californians. It is reasonable to argue that we cannot destroy the economy trying to stop every possible Covid-19 death. When people can’t eat, that’s a health problem, too.

There are even direct health reasons to reopen. After six weeks of shelter-in-place, cracks are appearing in California. San Francisco police broke up an illegal nightclub, surely not the only infraction. More people are circulating outside, and the size of the groups suggests that it’s no longer just roommates walking together. People are more likely to take risks the longer their confinement lasts. Far better to begin a gradual reopening, with a highly publicized campaign to encourage mitigation measures, such as wearing masks.

Another public health reason to begin to lift restrictions is that if stay-at-home orders ruin the lives of millions, they will be much harder to implement in the future. A future disease could be worse than Covid-19—the fatality rate of SARS, in 2003, was 11 percent—but resentment over a “Covid recession” might make it much harder to get people to cooperate next time.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-bay-area-extends-lockdown

Captain Hate

French, Popehat & Patterico - Dimwits for hire.

GUS

Capn, My bro dropped off Condi at W's house in Dallas for a weeks stay. He put her ample luggage on the door step and W. answered the door. The 2 Scotties made a break for it. My bro picked up the bags to bring them inside. W. yelled out, "I'll get the bags, you get the fuckin' dogs.".

Love the story.

Captain Hate

Scotties are delightfully headstrong, GUS; like every Scot.

Jim Eagle

Dogs as escape artists?

Beagles. They live for 3 things: Food, Sleep, and Escaping any confinement to follow their nose. Our little girl Beagle - Lady - recently squeezed through the fence when she didn't have her invisible fence collar on. It took Frederick to round her up.

Extraneus

what makes you characterize it as politically motivated?
She's not some R activist is she?

No, she's apparently a loyal Dem, but there are surely games being played within the party, with some people wanting to replace Biden. I wouldn't be surprised if she's part of that.

JimNorCal

"Please keep Jane in your thoughts today."
Thanks for the reminder! Prayers for Jane and hope she has her face-down environment st up nicely.

MissMarple2

John Cardillo
@johncardillo
·
1h
The guy whose staffer mysteriously died in his FL district office is an odd choice to run cover for the guy who allegedly abused his staffer outside his DC office.

Melinda

rse-

Personal Responsibility starting to break out?

Melinda

I can understand why this may need more "context", because, from my perspective, the optics are crystal clear:

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/01/joe-biden-senate-records-detail-meetings-with-putin-could-be-taken-out-of-context/

Jim Eagle

So, I went online to the IRS to check the status of my Trumpbuxx and was told last week that I would receive it on May 1st, direct deposit to my bank account.

Today, May 1st, I checked my bank account. No deposit. Go back to the IRS page and now it says they will MAIL it today.

I wonder if they think they are saving money due to the lag time between direct deposit and mail delivery?

Ralph L

I got a very nice card from my vet

They lay it on thick. It's a cut-throat ear-tail-claw business.

Extraneus

Interesting perspective re: Biden and Reade, Catsmeat. Thanks for sharing it.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Another apocryphal tale from this very country's founding.

And another from the Civil War that would have had the unfortunate effect of freeing thousands of slaves had it been real history.

The last few thousand years are full of such apocrypha and the converse unrealities that occurred when countries ignored foreign influences of hostile powers in their countries.

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/04/30/nunes-we-knew-from-day-one-michael-flynn-was-innocent-because-fbi-top-officials-told-us-so/

Melinda

Asymmetric Insurgencies don't exist?

What do you think the RedCoats thought when the Green Mountain men picked off the officers?

No way to know whether a war is actually being waged at all, given the enemedia being actually in the service of the, you know, Enemy.

I believe it to have started some time ago, just that some were interested in ceding the field, just without anyone really noticing. That ended.

JimNorCal

Heh!
Don Surber is beginning to let his freak flag fly. Hey. With barbers shut down ...

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/05/highlights-of-news.html?showComment=1588340738437#c1589394991124854907

Captain Hate

Alexander Hamilton made his legal career by representing former loyalists in lawsuits where they tried to reclaim seized property. Many of the loyalists Hamilton represented were quite wealthy, and Hamilton believed these men, and their capital, would prove critical for building the United States. He wanted them to reintegrate into American society. Resolving disputes over property confiscation was a critical first step in accomplishing that goal, and enabling the broader transition from violent revolution into routine civil government.

Hamilton won in New York. Most other states also successfully reintegrated loyalists. The United States Constitution even includes a clause prohibiting bills of attainder, the broad category of laws under which confiscation acts fell. It took away from democratic state legislature this coercive and punitive power to enforce political conformity.

What did those idiots writing the Constitution know...

clarice

or some observers, the idea of quantifying human life in economic terms sounds heartless. Yet we perform such cost-benefit analyses all the time, both as individuals—when we choose between riding a motorcycle or a station wagon—and as societies—when we choose whether to put more money into cancer research or into studies of rarer diseases. Every developed nation maintains value of statistical life (VSL) measures, for use in planning, transportation, and health policies.

There are social as well as economic costs. The effects of job losses and recession fall hardest on the poor and working class. People living paycheck-to-paycheck, or without savings, are suffering most. As the economy sinks, it takes with it the livelihoods and aspirations of tens of millions of Californians. It is reasonable to argue that we cannot destroy the economy trying to stop every possible Covid-19 death. When people can’t eat, that’s a health problem, too.

There are even direct health reasons to reopen. After six weeks of shelter-in-place, cracks are appearing in California. San Francisco police broke up an illegal nightclub, surely not the only infraction. More people are circulating outside, and the size of the groups suggests that it’s no longer just roommates walking together. People are more likely to take risks the longer their confinement lasts. Far better to begin a gradual reopening, with a highly publicized campaign to encourage mitigation measures, such as wearing masks.

Another public health reason to begin to lift restrictions is that if stay-at-home orders ruin the lives of millions, they will be much harder to implement in the future. A future disease could be worse than Covid-19—the fatality rate of SARS, in 2003, was 11 percent—but resentment over a “Covid recession” might make it much harder to get people to cooperate next time.

https://www.city-journal.org/california-bay-area-extends-lockdown


JANE, IF YOU CAN READ THIS--WE'RE ALL PULLING FOR YOU

clarice

Sorry, about above quote--this is what I meant to post:

Conrad Black's latest--Biden:https://amgreatness.com/2020/04/30/joe-biden-is-cooked/

Melinda

HYVE
@HYVEE7
As a reminder -
Jill Strzok is [PS] sister-in-law
Jill Strrzok works with Thomas Blasey.
Thomas Blasey = Christine Ford's brother.

"Peter Strzok’s cousin works in same multi-billion dollar circles as Kavanaugh accuser’s brother?"

dcdirtylaundry.com/peter-strzoks-…

https://twitter.com/HYVEE7/status/1256200780475797506

Extraneus

The Taibbi piece was ok, but I didn't like the two shots he took at Trump. One was to say Trump called for injecting Clorox or however he described it, and the other was about the guy who took fish tank cleaner. Taibbi apparently doesn't know that's being investigated as a potential murder by the guy's wife.

KevlarKid

I was unaware of this aspect of Wray's background in the DOJ/Bureau:

In a May 30, 2013 Washingtonian.com article, Garrett M. Graff revealed that Wray was one of the senior Justice Dept officials that nearly resigned in 2004, alongside then FBI Director Robert Mueller and Deputy Attorney General James Comey, due to illegal surveillance techniques the Bush administration had put in place under the Terrorist Surveillance Program.[20] In March 2005, Wray announced that he would resign from his post.[21] His last day at the Justice Department was on May 17, 2005.[citation needed]

In 2005, Wray received the Edmund J. Randolph Award, the Justice Department's highest award for public service and leadership.[22]

from Wkipedia. Salt added?

Marlene

Jane had her face down table read to set up when we were there Sunday. Her friend has Kiwi. She has a great group of people.

Dave (in MA)
CNN@CNN · 
CNN's @AndersonCooper is the proud father of a newborn baby boy. Wyatt Morgan Cooper, named after Anderson's father, was born on Monday weighing 7 pounds 2 ounces. https://cnn.it/2zHhZ9T
@ThePeoplesCube ·
Who’s the mother?
Who's the father?
henry

Government of the Karens, by the Karens, and for the Karens.

@vickimckenna

The head of WEDC thinks "customers willingly want their temperatures taken before they enter businesses. “They’re excited to see whether they have a fever” Huh?! empowerwisconsin.org/business-owner… @empowerwi

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1256226513042714626?s=21

Melinda

hahahahah!

Biden operatives accessed secret Senate records at University of Delaware before mid-March, report says

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-operatives-accessed-secret-senate-records-at-university-of-delaware-report-says

boris

Pretty sure there are good arguments why the USA should protect a reputation for scrupulous observance of foreign property rights even against its economic self interest.

Not so sure it should extend to situations against national defense.

Arguments referencing Chavez and Castro lack cromulence being of the form:

Vegetarians are bad because Hitler was a vegetarian

Sure, C&C nationalizing USA holdings was bad for us but it was bad for C&C mostly because C&C couldn't manage them in a profitable fashion. Wouldn't be the case here.

Also "we did it to ourselves" seems less cromulent than "The Deep State done it unto us".

JimNorCal

mike in Houston: "I just got an email from my local IHOP saying that they are open for in house dining."

In house dining? In house dining? Mad jealousy from me ...

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Signs of the apocalypse:

Went to Kroger this morning and as I was coming out, some woman was going in in full operating theater get up. Hair cover, scrubs, booties, mask and gloves.

If she IS a medico, WTF? Did she go to Kroger straight from the hospital.

If she ISN'T a medico, still WTF? Does she wear the same get up to all stores? Talk about potentially spreading the virus around!

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

I've already dined out 2x this week. Neener neener.

henry

Bezos in trouble with House Judiciary Committee.

https://twitter.com/cnbcnow/status/1256230310158745603?s=21

Melinda

All in, yet?


https://pjmedia.com/election/j-christian-adams/2020/04/30/leftists-funders-dedicate-millions-to-transform-2020-elections-n387083

GUS

Anderson Pooper just gave birth. How nice.

An old bathroom stall poem is in order.

Here I sit on the Pooper, just gave birth to ANDERSON COOPER.

henry

McD’s drive thru is open. Nothing else for 15 miles in any direction. All restaurants closed for the duration.

@vickimckenna

Apparently, this doesn't matter to @GovEvers: "Wisconsin's largest business groups are using such words as "devastating" and "extinction-level" to describe the economic problems created by the state's coronavirus lockdown."

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1256231733101498369?s=21

JimNorCal

766 comments. New thread soon, I'd wager.

Lots of WuFlu info here.
Just keep scrolling.
In addition to useful links and commentary on US news, she gives fairly in depth coverage of Israel's WuFlu. And translations from German medical articles. I guess she's multi lingual.
https://spinstrangenesscharm.wordpress.com/

Melinda

It's Hoft, soooo:

New FBI Document Release in Flynn Case Shows Spy and Crack Addict Stefan Halper Lied About General Flynn Affair


https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/new-fbi-document-release-flynn-case-shows-spy-crack-addict-stefan-halper-lied-general-flynn-affair/

GUS

How coincidental Mel, Andy Pooper is a crack addict too.

GUS

It's been years since I read Hofts CRAP. I have a rule that I do not always abide by. If the SOURCE seems fruity, the source IS fruity, don't go there. Hoft is a weird dude.

Rocco

Good morning,

Took me all day yesterday to catch up but then it was bedtime. Wishing Jane all the best today and a safe trip home to Marlene and Hubby.

Jim,Sunnyvale, I don't think we've peaked yet at our local hospital here in Central MA. Friday they converted 4 rooms in a recovery area into negative pressure rooms. The ICU was full as were the other rooms in a couple of different spots like the ER. My wife's been in the tent swabbing nostrils for about a week and she says it hasn't slowed down. And two nurses from the surgical-med floor came through the tent for testing. One told my wife she was scared and started crying. I hope the hell it doesn't plateau like this for a while.

My wife's 94 year old uncle died a couple of nights ago in a home. He was only in the home for less than a month and we don't think he was positive when he went in. He really had a wonderful long and happy life until alzheimers set in a year or so ago.

Old Lurker

Boris " was bad for us but it was bad for C&C mostly because C&C couldn't manage them in a profitable fashion. Wouldn't be the case here."

Once an investor knows that his assets are subject to seizure at the whim of a political leader, investments might continue but the pricing will be adjusted to reflect that added risk.

Right here in the good ole USA, I feel that was done to me already by making us shopping center owners absorb a disproportionate share of the cost of closing the economy down. How was that not a Bill of Attainder? Talk about a tax targeting an individual or a group...

And trust me on this too: when all the dust settles and normal returns, buyers of properties like mine will demand higher yields than before we knew the Bill of Rights was optional. That means lower asset prices and they will be justified.

Thanks for nothing.

Captain Hate

Arguments referencing Chavez and Castro lack cromulence being of the form:

Vegetarians are bad because Hitler was a vegetarian

This is the type of glib nonsense that you usually infuriate TK with. Why don't you play the guitar until you figure out the flaws in it.

Tom R

When you start targeting assets owned legally in country by foreigners the current regime no longer likes and you fire up the people to insist that those assets be seized and then auctioned off (you said "That works for me. Nationalize them and auction them off"), that is exactly what Hugo Chavez did to asset after asset owned by US companies.

What does the Defense Production Act allow the POTUS to do to protect national security?

https://www.congress.gov/bill/100th-congress/house-bill/4848

Part 2: Review of Certain Mergers, Acquisitions, and Takeovers - Amends the Defense Production Act of 1950 to authorize the President to initiate an investigation to determine the effects on national security of mergers, acquisitions, and takeovers of U.S. corporations by foreign persons and persons engaged in U.S. interstate commerce.
Authorizes the President to take action to restrict, suspend, or prohibit such merger, acquisition, or takeover if national security is threatened. Sets forth specified factors the President must consider in taking such action. Requires the President to report to the Congress.

How do you interpret that for an acquisition that has already occurred but now the foreign country has become an adversary? The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

MissMarple2

clarice,

This was the first response to Conrad Black's piece, and I found it to be pretty astute analysis:

basehitz • 4 hours ago • edited

If as the author suggests Biden was just a tool to ditch Crazy Bernie, and now they plan to ditch Sleazy Joe, what do you think Crazy Bernie's even crazier supporters will do? Vote for the hand-picked DNC establishment candidate having been screwed twice?

I suggest the Dems have screwed themselves by allowing radicals to swamp the party, diminishing any serious candidate and reasonable policy, and are now left with unelectable radicals. Therefore, they're all advocating for more voter fraud policies counting on the hopelessly corrupt fake news media to give them billions in free marketing propaganda to sell their lost vision.

They tried this in 2016. Now Trump has a proven track record. And Pence has emerged as a serious manager. He needs to stay focused on restarting the economy. We need to stay vigilant in support, especially voter turnout in November.

GUS

What is this CONSTITUTION that you speak of Tom!!

I like SOUTHWEST AIRLINES "Constitution".

You are free to nove about the country,

GUS

JANE, you are in my prayers. Love you girl.

Old Lurker

"I suggest the Dems have screwed themselves by allowing radicals to swamp the party, diminishing any serious candidate and reasonable policy, and are now left with unelectable radicals."

Unless they do get elected. And anybody who assumes that is impossible is not paying attention.

lyle

https://campusreform.org/?ID=14787

Universities hire new diversity czars while collecting federal bailout dollars

Yep, they’re feelin’ the pain, alright.

MissMarple2

Old Lurker,

That is why they are pushing mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting and opposing voter ID.

And that is why we have to make sure we have a high voter turn-out.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

You know, it's getting not too pleasant commenting here.

If I point out, without rancor and without meaning anyone in particular, that the numbers we're batting around really do represent somebody's grandpa or grandma, I get a guy screaming at me that I literally accused him of wanting his dear granny to die. And he keeps after me for several days with oddly angry comments even though I wasn't even thinking about him in my original comment, and nobody says a word.

If, instead of just accepting criticisms of models from third parties as true [who may or may not know what they're talking about] I actually go look at what the model guys said and try to figure out their methods and numbers, a few people also look at the numbers and give thoughtful responses, but mostly people refuse to look at the numbers, repeat the original criticism that was usually by someone else who didn't actually look at the numbers and tell me to shut up. The claim this Ferguson guy said 2 million one day and five days later said 'oops I meant 20,000' is utterly and demonstrably false. I provided links to demonstrate it was false and yet the links were ignored by everyone except one or two people and the claim was repeated over and over and it still is.
And for looking at the numbers and reporting what they actually said I was basically told to sit down and shut up and stop waving my hands. And I was told that by people who were themselves waving their hands because they refused to look at the very things they're dismissing. I was told I was defending modelers even though what I was doing was looking at actual numbers, noting some might be fairly accurate and others were way off. Since when did trying to ascertain facts and actually looking at what someone said and determine its legitimacy become improperly defending a position or even properly defending one?

If I note what I had previously assumed was a universal truth, that we all, every single person, especially including me, tend to look for things that support what we already believe and cast a more jaundiced eye at or simply dismiss things that don't, it's taken as some kind of moral affront, again mostly by somebody I wasn't even directing it at, rather than a simple observation on the human condition and that the tendency can be worsened in times of uncertainty, stress and their accompanying irritability.

And if I note, in defense of the notion of preventing and reversing the ownership of American assets by the most dangerous, capable and ambitious enemy we have faced in a very long time and that history provides us innumerable warnings that such fastidious reluctance to recognize the serious threat posed by an adversary and that similarly principled adherence to fair play resulted in disastrous confrontation, wars won and lost and the destruction of entire empires then I'm cast as making up apocrypha as opposed to real history that equates 1980s Japan with present Day Communist China and Nazis stealing Jewish wealth with us defending ourselves against communist China.

With some people and a lot of the time, it's starting to feel like arguing with progs. Facts, reason and logical distinctions don't seem to matter too much and people can be told what positions they can hold without disapproval from the group and being told to shut up if they continue to discuss them.
F. T. S.

Momto2

Prayers for Jane this morning! Glad to hear the report from Marlene that she has good support group in place!

Candace Owens
@RealCandaceO

Things that were considered “conspiracy theories” a month ago, that are now verified facts.

1) People that were never tested are added to the #coronavirus death toll.
2) Hospitals are paid more for Covid-19 deaths.
3) The virus is nowhere near as deadly as “experts” predicted

boris

"Right here in the good ole USA, I feel that was done to me already"

Well yes, if your property rights as a USA citizen should be sacrificed on the altar of pandemic defense, why should China's USA property rights be any less inviolable?

boris

"glib nonsense that you usually infuriate TK with"

Good, it's starting to work on you too.

GUS

Ig, I missed your hatred of Grannies, but I do understand where you're coming from.
People have been put into panic mode. They have been trained like clapping seals, that if you have a different take on liberty and problem solving than them, YOU ARE A HATER. If you disagree with how the GOVERNMENT is RULING US, you hate their granny. This is very poor and emotional thinking.
We don't fix problems with emotion. Your opinion is killing no one. Well, I gotta go now Ig, I need to give myself my morning Lysol injection.

Captain Hate

Unless they do get elected. And anybody who assumes that is impossible is not paying attention.

It mostly happens when the GOP doesn't offer the voters a real alternative. The last time a real conservative lost to a Democrat was Barry Goldwater. I can't blame a single voter for being unwilling to cast a vote for McCain or Romney.

Old Lurker

Agree and agree, MM.

Old Lurker

Cap'n, this is true "It mostly happens when the GOP doesn't offer the voters a real alternative. "

Sadly we are getting late in the game to draft winners and teach them the playbook.

Captain Hate

I know, OL. I'm just pissed off that the erosion of property rights is a controversial topic.

Rocco

What Comey did was Treasonous! And this cryptic tweet makes me think he really does think he's Benedict Arnold. Note the first reply and I might add that Comey, like Benedict Arnold, sold his country out to A Clinton.

https://twitter.com/Comey/status/920783485413060608

Old Lurker

Hear hear.

GUS

Capn, the SCOTUS rule one eminent domain last decade taught me a lot.
GOVERNMENT is our ruler.

joan

Something interesting (to me, anyway). Yesterday on NextDoor someone posted that our little community had made the NYT, but not in a good way. I checked and found this -- also, I will add, I don't understand many of these graphs, charts, statistics, etc. But, we're number 14 in some kind of cases, among cities like Boston, Detroit, New Orleans, other cities across the country. We're flat or decreasing, though. And, I also don't understand the red and the blue indicators. Surely can't be politically because of the cities we're listed with.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/23/upshot/five-ways-to-monitor-coronavirus-outbreak-us.html

Anyway, I think a Karen didn't like us making the list. :)

MissMarple2

This is a fascinating thread about things I know nothing about: weaponry, the Saudi and Israeli alliance, and South America.

Carlos Osweda knows a lot about weapons, and I would never notice any of this. The only thing I DID notice was that President Trump's first overseas visit was to Saudi Arabia.

Rolled thread:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1255999209485955072.html

Original thread with some interesting comments at the bottom:

https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1256025882629517312

Captain Hate

The Kelo decision by our black robed tyrants, Sug? The funny thing about that ruling, led by Poppy Bush's Souter (although, in fairness, he also gave us Clarence Thomas) was that after the dogshit town kicked the property owners off their property, the robber baron company decided not to build there. Lose/Lose.

joan

Forgot to say that my husband was skeptical about the reasoning behind the listings. My sister thought, oh, no, or maybe it was uh oh. :)

I decided it was because of the two big offices of energy (once) giants that are here. PPCo's founder was here and main headquarters here, oh so many years ago, until corporate leaders just couldn't stand the shame of being headquartered in a small town in Oklahoma and moved headquarters to Houston. Supposedly for access to airports -- Houston, :), a place it takes you 40 to 45 minutes to get to Bush and lots of fricking traffic to get to Hobby, but a smooth 30+ minutes down a highway to get to Tulsa's airport. No prestige though, and so much more deplorable where the company began.

Captain Hate

Ohio's RINO Dewine has extended the lockdown until and of May. We have to spend 3 weeks in Columbus for various doctors appointments while self quarantined for the entire time we are there. Then we head home to South Dakota where normal people live.
Posted by: Abby


Yeah, Dewino just effed us all. That guy is toast.

Soon now, there will be massive protests at the state house.
Soon.
#two weeks

If the end of Net Neutrality didn't kill us.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at May 01, 2020 11:36 AM (vcOmj)

Old Lurker

Iggy, we all know these are real people and it is sad to see anybody die. Who at JOM ever said otherwise?

But in 1950 9,500 American died out of each million people; today that number is closer to 8,500 per million. If it is normal for (rounding) 3,000,000 Americans to die from all things this year, that is .009 of the population. If Covid adds 100,000 to that total, 3,100,000 is still .009. Against history, that is rounding and we are still doing better than the 1950's. And even with an added 100,000 deaths if that is the number, "Flu Like Diseases" do not even move up one place on the list of top ten killers.

I sure don't want to be the statistic, and I would miss you a lot if you became one...but we have paid, and are paying, way too high a price measured on many scales not just economic for the benefits gained. Whatever those are.

GUS

Yes Capn, if the government can make more taxes, then it is for the betterment of mankind.

FUCKING HORSE SHIT.

Giving an addict more heroin, is not a good thing.
Giving Government more money at the expense of your liberty is NOT A GOOD THING.

That is what those who don't live in the real world believe. Rob from the people give to other people. THIS IS NOT SHERWOOD FOREST.
If ROBIN HOOD tried to rob my house, he'd be ROBIN HOOD, THE HEADLESS HORSEMAN.

Tom R

We spent more than eight trillion dollars right here at home in only two months and got even less for it.

At least a lot of people less fortunate than you and unemployed thru no fault of their own were able to feed their families for a couple of weeks.

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