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May 04, 2020

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Captain Hate

Iggy,

That was a very balanced discussion on pesticides and birds, including anomalies for which there are no real explanations.

The Infamous Ignatz

We're into the sixth month or so of this virus being loose and as far as I can tell we have no more idea now than in January what policies work or don't and what the numbers mean or even are.

All we do know is progs are childish, submissive, petty little snitch-turds and normal people are growing increasingly restless and angry.
And that China is every bit as evil and aggressive as the Soviet Union ever was, has a lot more money and just like the USSR, progs will always make excuses for it at the West's expense.
But don't ever tell em they're commie-symps.

Jane

Btw Federalist has a great article about all the media’s ties to China. I’d link it but it would take me an hour!

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

A rancher talks about widespread food destruction, 4 min
Factoid: some (I assume small amounts) Namibian beef being imported to the US. Presumably their meat processing plants are not shut down.
https://youtu.be/i9pCEnEqaz8

Captain Hate

Gaylord is so out of his league but Disney sports couldn't help themselves

https://pjmedia.com/culture/jeff-reynolds/2020/05/04/michael-jordan-doubles-down-on-republicans-buy-sneakers-too-comment-even-under-criticism-from-obama-n388058

Melinda

Hmmm:

Katie Yonke⭐⭐⭐
@JKHomestead
Woah. 👀

Mexico's president the U.S. government should investigate its own officials who had ties to Mexico's former top security official, who is currently facing trial accused of taking tens of millions of dollars in bribes to protect the Sinaloa cartel
kaaltv.com/national-news/…

https://twitter.com/JKHomestead/status/1257659546488778754

Oh, I think they know already....

Extraneus

It's disappointing that a better alternative to DDT hasn't been found in the almost 50 years since it was banned. It would probably be worth wiping out raptors in places where malaria kills more humans than the # of birds saved.

MissMarple2

https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/04/cnn-trump-dislikes-obama-because-michelle-is-hotter-than-melania/

I will let you gentlemen comment on this. All I have to say is that Melania has far better taste and fashion sense.

Melinda

Thread on Van Grack:

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
Did Flynn prosecutor Brandon Van Grack mislead Judge Sullivan about his compliance with Brady?

October 2019:

“The govt is not in possession of Brady evidence"

The govt has not "affirmatively suppressed evidence"

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1257665158178115584

MissMarple2

Melinda,

Have we not been saying drug cartel money for years? We also posited that it was why they opposed the Border Wall.

Yes, I think they know, too. HA!

Melinda

rse-

They're "Ready to go!"::

MedicalQuack
@MedicalQuack
Univerisities to avoid: University of Southern California, Emory University, and the University of Texas Health Science Center are jointly working on the system after receiving federal grant funding-crap app risk scoring and tracking of students bit.ly/2SB30Fm

https://twitter.com/MedicalQuack/status/1257680458256547840

henry

Florida has 85,000 illegal voters on rolls.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/florida-voters-felons/2020/05/05/id/966109/

cathyf

I’ve been wondering this for awhile: Is the covid 1-2 punch something like Reyes Syndrome, but with elderly people rather than kids?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/reyes-syndrome/symptoms-causes/syc-20377255

All along I’ve had this nagging feeling that we are seeing two separate things here. The first is a disease caused by a virus and the disease itself is trivial. Then there is something else which is only indirectly caused by the virus that comes as a second wave and kills the patient who is recovering from the virus. In Reyes, the chain of causation is that a viral infection caused fever, which is treated with a fever reducer — in this case aspirin. It’s the aspirin that interacts with the virus and causes a cascade that kills the patient. The solution is to use another fever-reducing drug and avoid the problem.

We’ve got all sorts of groups — children, pregnant women, homeless people, smokers, prisoners — who get the trivial thing, but not the deadly follow on. Just look at the bizarreness off that collection! What the heck protects those people but not hypertensive obese diabetics?

Narciso

Cytokine storm seems to he thr chaser, in some instances but not others

MissMarple2

Last Thursday, my father, Wayne Pompeo, passed away in Orange, CA from surgery complications at age 89. We miss him and are lifted by the prayers and memories being sent to us. pic.twitter.com/ZreLD4bKT8

— Mike Pompeo (@mikepompeo) May 5, 2020

Photo at link. I was unaware of this and Secretary Pompeo has been carrying a heavy burden. My prayers are with him and his family.

Narciso

Ah dejavu with the official played by tomas milian in traffik, barry mccaffreys counterpart.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1h
Governors should let roads and highway construction begin before heavy traffic starts, which will be soon. Some Governors never stopped, which proved to be very smart. They built and fixed roads during long no traffic periods. Also, saved big dollars!

Melinda

Lee Zeldin
@RepLeeZeldin
In apparently unrelated news, the Speaker is blocking the House of Representatives from even being in session right now in DC. The Senate is at the Capitol, but the House is AWOL & not even there to hear anyone's testimony regardless of this misfired, partisan grandstanding.

Nancy Pelosi @SpeakerPelosi
The White House is blocking key officials from testifying to Congress about the response to the coronavirus crisis. This is just the latest sign of Trump’s efforts to keep the truth from the American people. #SitRoom

https://twitter.com/RepLeeZeldin/status/1257666023450456065

joan

rse: "As I keep warning, the answer to these planners for the collective is getting at people at the level of their belief systems."

You've convinced me -- and, as you and others have said, it's been going on in our universities for a long time.

A 'friend' on facebook posted a question yesterday asking her friends if they were confident enoughh to resume normal activities. I read about four or five "No's", one or two huge and decorated :) with colors and squiggles.

I couldn't believe it and wrote: "Yes, I feel confident it is safe to return to normal activities. I grew up in the age of polio. There was no vaccine. People died from it. People were put in iron lungs in the hospital. People ended up crippled -- I can't think of another word, and hope not to offend using that term, but that is what happened. Schools didn't close -- and it was a killer for children. One boy in my class died from it -- the teacher moved children from that row and we sat double in desks for awhile. Every year people die from the flu. Think about that for awhile. And, remember, the USA flattened the curve as we were asked to do -- now younger people should get to open their businesses, go to work, get this economy running again. If you're worried, wear a mask, wash your hands, don't touch your face, but this economy, the world's economy needs to reopen."

One woman took issue with my comment on flu, she said something about 60,000 deaths in six weeks showed this wasn't the flu. After that there were 20 plus more -- all no or nope.

As I type this I'm shaking my head -- I can understand not wanting to catch the virus, but being this scared ???? Defeats me.

Also, yesterday I saw a picture in the newspaper. The 'rest and rehab' nursing home had lined up patients who had 'graduated' from the CoVid wing of the home. Outside along one of the sidewalks. All smiling. In the sunshine. Some in wheelchairs, others sitting in chairs.

And, those silly, scared upper-class* bitches on facebook afraid to resume normal.

*I recognized most of their names and know them well.

Extraneus

Techno_Fog seems to think that Judge Sullivan understands the difference between a Logan Act investigation and a counter-intelligence investigation. The man doesn't even know the definition of treason and he thinks Turkey is a foreign enemy. He should have been put out to pasture a long time ago.

Art in Newport

This is kind of interesting

https://www.ocregister.com/2020/05/04/newport-beach-councilman-sues-gov-newsom-in-federal-court-to-reopen-orange-countys-beaches/

Maybe a little inside baseball, but Kevin Muldoon is Councilman for the 4th District. the 4th is an 'inside' district that includes Newport Center/Fashion Island. Newport Center is the financial district, Fashion Island is the destination shopping center. This complex includes several high-end hotels; Marriott, Hyatt , et al. They are hurting. They are open, but mostly empty, at a time when they should be full. Same for the high-end retail.

Meaning that this is not a stunt lawsuit. Serious people with deep pockets are behind it. Having a Councilman to front for them says the City is behind it also. Interesting times.

Narciso

Its as cobvolutrex as you think

https://babalublog.com/2020/05/04/former-u-s-green-beret-leads-an-armed-incursion-into-socialist-venezuela/

Melinda

Ext-

Then you can surely trust this man as well, n'est ce pas? He speaks tried and true dogma as well as the next guy:

The Hill
@thehill
Fauci dismisses "circular argument" coronavirus originated in Chinese lab hill.cm/wxXjOLh

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1257683744321875968

Just ignore the news from Australian Intelligence....

Narciso


The authority i regard


https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1257660802271711245

cathyf

That Reyes Syndrome description sounds like a “storm” too but attacking the brain rather than the lungs.

Narciso

When researching my novella, i noticed collusion between yemeni and saudi officials and the islamist, you need a program to tell the players and even then, you dont have the whole deck of cards

henry

From a reply to Berenson.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8286181/Coronavirus-mutation-one-sample-signal-getting-weaker.html

Extraneus

It's not Fauci's job to worry about where the virus originated.

Oh wait. Actually it is.

clarice

OK, I admit it--I love this guy:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8287683/FIVE-year-old-boy-driving-parents-car-pulled-freeway.html

Melinda

Thread:

Chad P. Bown
@ChadBown
COVID-19: Despite claims it had ramped up domestic production, China's exports of respirators and masks have not increased. This is worrisome for a lot of reasons.

Here, I examine newly-released Chinese trade data for personal protective equipment.

https://twitter.com/ChadBown/status/1257658651730423813

Melinda

Oh, and The Atlantic is back "On!" with the DJT is in mental decline story, in case anyone wants to go look at Hackwood or Wehner Tweets, because I'm not.

Melinda

Oldie but goodie, because "Coincidence!" is my favorite excuse:

The Reckoning 💥
@sethjlevy
This cannot be a coincidence.

Back in 2014, Zwack and Vindman were in Moscow and prepared the way for the infamous trip Flynn took to GRU.

Then afterward socialized together at Zwack’s residence with his Russian GRU counterpart.

defenseone.com/ideas/2016/02/…

https://twitter.com/sethjlevy/status/1196994953068662785

henry

I think we found Karen Central.

@vickimckenna

This. Is. Insane. “Dane Co. to remain under state of emergency until at least July 15” Based on WHAT? The empty hospitals? The declining cases? Or to kill what is left of the local economy dead?

(Via Channel 3000)

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1257684217011601414?s=21

Melinda

Pientka found. Plus, the guy on the phone in the background is just a bonus:

Greg Rubini
@GregRubini
This is JOE PIENTKA - the FBI (thug) Agent who FRAMED Gen. Flynn.

(together with his dear friend Peter Strzok)
.

https://twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1257683719000928256

Melinda

And here comes Andy Lack's #MeToo moment:

Elahe Izadi
@ElaheIzadi
Two former NBC journalists said late Monday they had spoken to investigators with the New York State Attorney General’s Office exploring allegations of sexual harassment and discrimination at NBC News. wapo.st/2z7tS8U

https://twitter.com/ElaheIzadi/status/1257685629019791360

cathyf

From the virus’ point of view, killing the patient is a bad thing because that ends the virus’ ability to infect others. So there is huge evolutionary pressure on viruses to make them less virulent over time.

Narciso

Memory hole aisle 6;

Extraneus

China Orders Christian Church to Discontinue Online Worship

The Chinese communist party has ordered the Early Rain Covenant Church (ERCC) to cease all online worship services, in its latest crackdown on Christianity in the country.

In late 2018, Chinese authorities carried out a series of tightly coordinated raids on the 5,000-member Early Rain Covenant Church in the city of Chengdu, arresting more than 100 members, including Pastor Wang Yi and his wife.

The government cut the phone line to the church and Chinese police reportedly tracked down church members using the location signals from their mobile phones. Pastor Wang later received a sentence of nine years in prison for “inciting subversion” and running an illegal “business.”

China’s state-run Global Times newspaper argued at the time that Wang was not a true Christian but an agitator “brainwashed by Western values.”

Since the shuttering of their church, Early Rain members have had to resort to online streamed worship services, but now the government wants to stop those as well, the Christian Post reported Monday.

Last weekend, police brought in members of ERCC in charge of church activities and online services and demanded that they bring a halt to all activities.

clarice

The Rubini twitter is missing.

Narciso

Shirley


https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnEkdahl/status/1257685331228459009

henry

@vickimckenna

On the day the WI Sup. Ct. hears arguments against lockdown ext.,Dane announces ext. till 7/15. MKE prob. next. Prob. requires SEPARATE court action to stop unless legislature & Evers come to an agreement to reopen WI & disallow co. preemption. This stinks of political power play

MissMarple2

Hopefully someone got a screen cap of that Rubini tweet.

Extraneus

Mel, I couldn't get your 11:08 link to work. Looking forward to finally seeing Pientka.

lyle

The Red Commies persecuting Christians. No wonder the American commies swoon over them.

henry

@vickimckenna

ONTARIO: Dozens Dead After Lockdown Measures Delayed Their Heart Surgeries; Health Official: ‘Certainly Was Not Intended’ So it's OK then?

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1257687558349258752?s=21

asw

Probably the best Judy Mikovitz interview on Covid-19 and her experience with Anthony Fauci for those who are interested.

Plandemic

https://vimeo.com/414798216

Narciso


From an older thread


https://mobile.twitter.com/GregRubini/status/1257463839555289088

Now chertoff also worked for firtash, who was the disqalifier for rudys sleuths

joan

I checked the 11:08 too. It was disappeared. So went to Rubini's page and am wondering how he's still on twitter. He's afire with tweets about Gina Haspel, the Deep State, and Ciaremella (sp) -- saying even the president obeys a gag order, mentions SCOTUS Roberts, and that gag possibly issued by Haspel. Clapper's ugly mug, as well as Brennan's menacing one, are both prominently displayed this morning.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1256735350225059846.html

Captain Hate

Knock yourself out, Jeet

Jeet Heer@HeerJeet

In all seriousness, the way to judge a work of history is by the productive debates it provokes. "1619" generated some very dumb knee-jerk reactions but also a lot of serious conversation. I think it's going to be at the center of conversation for many years.

MissMarple2

https://babylonbee.com/news/chinese-government-lays-off-entire-pr-team-as-american-media-already-doing-same-job

Narciso

It must zao yao (transliteration for dezinforma) all the time

clarice

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/495700-americas-post-pandemic-political-shift-to-the-right

Narciso

Hes the canadian oliver willis. Captain

Narciso

If they are using bayesian you have to assume a value, n, which one

https://mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1257646717052297219

lyle

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/fec-committee-to-draft-michelle-obama-for-vp-formed

Here comes Big Mike!

Narciso

Am o right, about that.

lyle

Interesting link @ 11:32, Clarice. I tend to agree with his assessment of higher ed but this made me laugh:

The “campus experience,” involving vibrant exchanges of ideas,

I really don’t need to explain why I found this amusing, do I?

Narciso

Is he practicing atandup?

MissMarple2

lyle,

That s why Don Lemen went on a rant about how President Trump doesn't like former President Obama because Michelle is better looking than Melania.

I am grateful to read a wide variety of items here and on Twitter because I am beginning to notice when they roll out a new narrative much earlier.

Captain Hate

Drafting Big Mike? As in NFL or NASCAR?

Melinda

I thought Jordan said he wouldn't play for any other coach than Phil?

Am I missing something?

Buckeye

Here comes Big Mike!

Told y’all.

What happens if she (if there was ever a suspect pronoun) is on the ticket and Biden gets croaked prematurely, before the election?

henry

CH, Budweiser Clydesdales

Captain Hate

If you guys are really skeered of Big Mike we may as well haul down the flags.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Still baby steps but the tech elite is being put on notice, I think.

Mrs NorCal heard from her CEO via email (a large Silicon Valley firm), the company will
1) reduce pay for CEO and exec staff
2) no promotions
3) no raises
4) twice annual bonus will go to single (iow, skip the upcoming bonus)
5) no 401K match for the quarter

We also received an informal newsletter from a friend that said Uber, AirBnB, Lyft and others are starting cutbacks at the Corp offices. First contractors, then interns with no layoffs of permanent employees (yet).

The elites won't willingly open the economy until the privileged (for example, high tech) and government workers start to see painful layoffs so I'd say we are starting to get closer.

Tom R

Melinda @ 11:06

Since you follow @sethjlevy you may have seen this already.

https://twitter.com/dawsonsfield/status/1154380948718465024?s=21

If it is true that Comey informed the WH on 2/8/17 that Flynn had an active FISA warrant on him, then that is almost certainly the real reason Trump was forced to remove Flynn as his National Security Advisor.

Captain Hate

He played for Doug Collins, again, with the Wizards on that legacy tarnishing ill considered post Bulls adventure.

Melinda

Nope.

henry

Jim,Sunnyvale. At some point interest rates will be non zero, what do all those “profit doesn’t matter” tech firms do then? CalPers is low on cash too.

Melinda

Donkey Kong!

Newsmax
@newsmax
China calls Pompeo's bluff

The Chinese government says Mike Pompeo is lying about 'enormous evidence' ow.ly/38f850zxlNY

https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1257701770031239169

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

joan, 10:47
Yes, it's amazing! There are large numbers of people who act like infection by the WuFlu is a death sentence!

In fact, it is coming out that the virus was running wild through society weeks or even months before the state SHUTDOWNs but ... no one even noticed.

Yeah, WuFlu is worse than regular flu. But it's not on a whole other level. Plus the impact on the young and on the healthy is small, smaller than regular flu I'll bet.

henry

Hearing in progress. Totalitarian govt unmasked.

@maciverwisc

Wisconsin Supreme Court asks @GovEvers' administration if there is any limit on @DHSWI's power in a health emergency. Colin Roth says according to state law, it can do whatever it takes to control the outbreak.

MissMarple2

Captain Hate,

In my opinion, the DNC and the media think they can still manipulate the voting public. They have little understanding of how engaged a great many people got with government when Trump announced, nor how they have learned to use the internet to do research to get at the truth.

She will never be able to do a debate. A few catchy phrases and some hideous outfit are not going to cut it. In addition, she doesn't really like most people, so if they are counting on her to do a lot of campaigning, it's bound to be a lost cause.

I have a lot more to say about this, but I probably should hold my tongue.

henry

You can see why Evers fucked up an election to steal this guy’s seat.

@maciverwisc

.@JusticeDanKelly points out the order is creating new crimes that people can go to jail for, and that @DHSWI is in effect creating new criminal law.

henry

thread here (lefty butthurt)

@mjs_dc

Wisconsin Supreme Court Justice Rebecca Bradley, a Republican, just described the governor's stay-at-home order as "the very definition of tyranny."

https://twitter.com/mjs_dc/status/1257699256451895296?s=21

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

art: as a Californian, much appreciate hearing your news stories and analysis of the goings on in Newport Beach

Captain Hate

The more humiliation we can heap on the DNC, enemedia and Gaylord, the better.

henry

Sciency.

@maciverwisc

.@GovEvers' administration claims if #SaferatHome was immediately lifted, and the legislature has no replacement for it, people will flood out into the streets, #coronavirus "will spread like wildfire", and "people will die." #WIright #ReopenWisconsin

https://twitter.com/maciverwisc/status/1257705356819599361?s=21

Pinandpuller

ABC you’ve gone too far this time. There’s nothing funny about “Kalergi-ish”.

henry

@maciverwisc

#SaferatHome has closed 50000 small retailers, 44000 small healthcare and social service providers, 23000 arts, recreation and entertainment, 17000 small food and lodging services according to WEDC.

Pinandpuller

The NFL season is going off on schedule. For a minute there I was worried that several dozen 2020 college graduates wouldn’t be able to buy they mama a house.

henry

Or a climate emergency... you should ask that too.

@maciverwisc

.@JudgeBradleyWI wants to know what would stop @DHSWI Secretary Designee Andrea Palm from declaring an emergency every flu season and seizing emergency powers. #WIright #ReopenWisconsin #LiberateWisconsin

Tom R

In fact, it is coming out that the virus was running wild through society weeks or even months before the state SHUTDOWNs but ... no one even noticed.

That is a conservative talking point that is in direct conflict with the official position of Team Trump. The virus clearly wasn't "running wild" throughout the US in late 2019/early 2020 otherwise the outbreak in NYC would have started much earlier.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

henry: "At some point interest rates will be non zero, what do all those “profit doesn’t matter” tech firms do then?

Well, if you're talking about the myriad of tiny startups--they're inconsequential, IMO. They attract risk-takers, etc. and there is an expectation that the company can crater.

When there are layoffs at Microsoft, Apple, Google, Intel, Cisco, HP ... then take notice. Those companies might be perceived as being full of young and hip employees but those firms also include a ton of people with mortgages, luxury car payments, college and private school tuitions to pay, even medical conditions which make Big Corp health coverage imperative.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Can any of you NCers (Charlotte specifically) clue me in on what the rules are for tyrannical lockdowns and what is opening back up. I want to take Ariel to see K and if there isn't anything open... Do you want an almost 3 year old stuck in a hotel room with you for 48 hours???

henry

Jim, I was thinking of newer unicorns- say Workday or Salesforce ilk.

Old Lurker

Henry quotes: "Wisconsin Supreme Court asks @GovEvers' administration if there is any limit on @DHSWI's power in a health emergency. Colin Roth says according to state law, it can do whatever it takes to control the outbreak."

States can pass any laws they can get through, any time they like. Big whup.

But not a single law they pass can remove the protection that every citizen in every state has from the Constitution as amended and the Bill of Rights.

Otherwise some states would be slave states, some states might deny women the right to vote, some state might ban newspapers and churches (OK, keep the churches, ban the synagogues...), some states could take away all private property without justification or compensation.

We could go on.

GUS

D.D.T. did a job on me
Now I am a real sickie
Guess I'll have to break the news
That I got no mind to lose
All the girls are in love with me
I'm a teenage lobotomy, yeah

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

"Jim, I was thinking of newer unicorns- say Workday or Salesforce ilk."

I'd still say that their severe challenges or even outright demise would not cause the Powers That Be to budge. These firms, though substantial, don't have the clout.
But that's just a personal judgment, I could be wrong.

Old Lurker

Crime fighters' "Broken Window Theory" would suggest that not reacting when a state flouts, say, immigration laws, to name one, that would lead to disregarding even more requirements of the Constitution and Federal Laws.

Did not take long to get where we are.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Though I have to say, having the opportunity of saying "Hey Workday, hey Salesforce! You guys are fluff" ... well, that's kind of a nice-to-have all on its own.

Extraneus

Seems like those WI justices are asking the right questions. This could be a landmark case if the rule against Evers and it gets appealed to the SC, which crushes the tyrants in one fell swoop.

Extraneus

Can't count on Roberts, though. He doesn't like to make big waves.

rse

Steph-

I will ask one of my current housemates who works with people there to find out for you.

peter

Big Mike v Trump in the debates, I can see the MSM headlines now: Trump's inherent disrespect for women of color plainly visible as he seethes and lashes out against Princeton graduate. Who would be Big Mike's running mate, Sargent Shriver.


Speaking of the Kennedy era, this is the 59th anniversary of Alan Shephard's sub-orbital flight into space. 115 miles up, 300 miles laterally.

jimmyk

I might have missed discussion here, but apparently the CDC put out some kind of "sky is falling" report that we're going to have a big resurgence, with 200,000 dead by July 1 or something. Where do they get this from? I just hope when (in all likelihood) the spread fizzles out in the next few weeks the CDC is held accountable for this. They're just providing chum for the blue state guvs to extend their lockdowns.

lyle

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/05/karen-isnt-only-insufferable-person.html

Of course, we do not want to mock or even acknowledge black privilege and the like because then we would have to recognize that Karen is not the only insufferable person in the world. We would have to acknowledge that jerks pretty much come in all colors, all shapes, and all sizes.

Karen is a safe target because she is white.

And in possession of a gender studies degree, natch.

jimmyk

I don't think Big Mike wants to expose how stupid and uninformed she is by running for any public office higher than dog catcher.

lyle

I just hope when (in all likelihood) the spread fizzles out in the next few weeks the CDC is held accountable for this. They're just providing chum for the blue state guvs to extend their lockdowns.

And why not? They’re still getting paid. As for “accountability,” well...

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Thanks RSE.

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