Energize The Base!

The Ahmaud Arbery shooting I noted in April is now going national. CNN aired a video of the fatal confrontation, the case is going to a grand jury and Joe Biden is demanding justice. Now both sides (all sides?) get to grab their scripts and we can fight over whether Ahmaud Arbery is Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Eric Garner, or someone else entirely. Any chance he's Ahmaud Arbery and this case doesn't fit a template? Naah.

As is so often the case, the vdeo shows what people want it to show. This is CNN:

Brunswick, Georgia (CNN)The fatal shooting of a black man -- apparently recorded on video in February and posted online Tuesday by a local radio station host -- will go to a grand jury in coastal Georgia, according to a district attorney.

Elements of the disturbing video are consistent with a description of the shooting given to police by one of those involved in the incident.

 

Well, yes. Here is the Times version from last April:

 

In a separate document, [local prosecutor] Mr. Barnhill stated that video exists of Mr. Arbery “burglarizing a home immediately preceding the chase and confrontation.” In the letter to the police, he cites a separate video of the shooting filmed by a third pursuer.

 

Mr. Barnhill said this video, which has not been made public, shows Mr. Arbery attacking Travis McMichael after he and his father pulled up to him in their truck.

 

The video shows Mr. Arbery trying to grab the shotgun from Travis McMichael’s hands, Mr. Barnhill wrote. And that, he argued, amounts to self-defense under Georgia law. Travis McMichael, Mr. Barnhill concluded, “was allowed to use deadly force to protect himself.”

 

Where did that take the local prosecutor?

Mr. Barnhill also wrote that he did not believe there was evidence of a crime, noting that Gregory McMichael and his son had been legally carrying their weapons under Georgia law. And because Mr. Arbery was a “burglary suspect,” the pursuers, who had “solid firsthand probable cause,” were justified in chasing him under the state’s citizen’s arrest law.

It's all good!

I'm just a tired old Yankee who is losing patience with this bullshit. Arbery was not jogging down the street carrying a television. And if he was, you're going to shoot him because of it? Why? No one was being kidnapped, no one was being raped, no one was being assaulted - what about this suggested it was a deadly force situation?

 

Or if these vigilantes were gunned up out of fear that the jogger might be armed, well, if the situation is that dangerous just take a deep breath and let it go. I don't care how legal this shooting was, it was stupid and quite likely the law is stupid as well.

 

Now yes, Arbery should not have attacked, as the video suggests he did. Legally that may be exculpatory but I'm not even sure why that is a defense. What, the  vigilante plan was to show up with a shotgun to arrest a guy who, they hoped, would be calm and act responsibly? Just how did they picture this unfolding if the jogger was terrified, hopped up on drugs, had anger management issues, had mental health issues, or whatever? The plan was what - if he's a sensible citizen they'll arrest him, otherwise they'll shoot him? Come on, man.

 

These vigilantes faced a situation where no one was at risk of physical harm and turned it into a situation that had a high potential for disaster. And that's what they got. There ought to be consequences for cranial-anal impaction.

 

 

Comments

[lyle]

This need not be a partisan topic.

Translation: we’re right and conservatives should just get over it and admit it.

[Extraneus]

Animal expert lets giant hornet — similar to 'murder hornet' — sting him on video: 'It's not something you want to get stung by'

[GUS]

Kev, I agree with virtually everything you post.

I've been busy, but I saw you texted me.
The date was SUNDAY MAY 3.

[Captain Hate]

The anti Karen state

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387131

[Pinandpuller]

The type of storm that came thru and took everything out is called a Derecho. How long until the Hispanic lobby complains that all bad weather events have Spanish names? 3...2...

[GUS]

At long last ZH admits national socialists are sick freaks.

We can all agree that SOCIALISTS are sick now.

[henry]

FascistBook announces its censors. They are globalist doozies.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/06/facebook-names-first-members-of-oversight-board-for-content-moderation.html

[Melinda]

No wonder my texts go unanswered, GUS.....

[Melinda]

rse-

You asked about the DOOM! (TM) post at ZH earlier this am....

Well, he IS a noted goldbug, if that's any consolation.

[GUS]

Hey Pin, just go home. I was out attacking Hispanics because clearly that storm was A HISPANIC. Don't tell the rest!

[Melinda]

Oh, and here's rse's source material from "Our Betters":

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/05/01/destroying-trust-in-the-media-science-and-government-has-left-america-vulnerable-to-disaster/

As if the institution, and noted Atlantic Council party bois did'nt ring any bells....

[Extraneus]

Derecho

I read about those last year. A long straight line of severe thunder storms along a cold front that allows the winds to get really strong. Lots of brutal history with deaths comparable to those caused by hurricanes.

[Porchlight]

Yelp is really sleazy. There was a scandal not too long ago where a business had to pay Yelp or else Yelp would sort all the business's negative reviews to the top of the list and there was nothing the business can do about it. I think they got sued for it.

[Extraneus]

And they come on faster than thunderstorms. No thunder in the distance where you can hear them before their right on you.

[Old Lurker]

RSE "OL-that paper makes it clear that what is sought is a feudalistic sense of how the individual is to submit to political authority however it is asserted."

Bingo. I think that right there explains our universe, both here and globally.

[Melinda]

Ext-

Read what they do to a Great Lake....

[GUS]

Ext, sounds like you describing the old days of border jumping.

[Melinda]

On the backside of the Derecho you get a Seiche, really, really dangerous.

[GUS]

Mel, I promise to be better about my TEXTING.

You are always a valuable resource and friend to me, in person or not. You even love MUSIC.

[lyle]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/05/06/msnbc-contributor-americans-obsession-with-freedom-blinds-us-to-threats-like-climate-change-viruses-n2568293

“Obsession with freedom.”

[Melinda]

Big talk with all those CAPSLOCK, my friend....

My sympathies to your bride.

[Captain Hate]

Yelp is really sleazy. There was a scandal not too long ago where a business had to pay Yelp or else Yelp would sort all the business's negative reviews to the top of the list and there was nothing the business can do about it. I think they got sued for it.

I ran across some poison reviews of the place I board Teddy. Granted I'm biased on her behalf but that's mostly because she honestly loves dogs and cats and will always err on behalf of their wellbeing. If they complained about it being pricey they'd have a point but it was mostly spiteful Karen type sniping as if she let them know her MAGA affinities.

[Jack Lillywhite]

The short version of OL’s 1:55, is only trust The Ledge😉

[Threadkiller]

This 30min YouTube is sure to get shitcanned soon:

Dr. Anthony Fauci's ex-employee, was jailed, finally tells all.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IsuCa6V7prg

I have decided to listen to the video more attentively later when my projects are done. What stood out, to me, was the topic of face masks starting around the 19min mark. Ext, this could lead toward the explanation of the meat packing employees rate of infection.

Maybe what she is saying is pure BS. I don’t know, but she is succinct so the 30min goes by quickly and clearly.

[lyle]

Look up super cells as a weather phenomenon. They’ll flatten perfectly healthy pine forests. And I mean FLATTEN.

[Narciso]

The spicey danish is part of the minitrue committee

[Dave (in MA)]

Ha, GUS. That's not so bad. I'm not even sure where in the house my cell phone is, and half the time when I go to look at it, it has no juice left.

[GUS]

thank you mel, you're a great guy.
funeral tomorrow.

[GUS]

TK, that DR, that WOMAN is a SCIENTIST.

Why do FULL COMMIES HATE SCIENCE.

What??? Did you say FOR MONEY??

[Threadkiller]

GUS. ;-)

[Dave (in MA)]

better about my TEXTING

I always tell people I barely look at my phone, but they continue to try to reach me by texting the damn thing. I'm not even sure where my phone is right now.

[sbwaters]

Revised based on new information: further gone than anyone of us except Kev, OL, and CH might have thought

[GUS]

Dave, I get alot of texts from work. A LOT.
Truthfully, I've got brothers, and friends, whom I've known since before high school, that get overlooked sometimes. I do love hearing from all of you. ANONAMOM e-mailed today, and I e-mailed back. And I certainly owe PIN some love. He reaches out a lot, and I love that. Y'all saw my apology to KEV, which got me into HOT WATER!!!

[lyle]

I'm not even sure where my phone is right now.

I wish this were more prevalent in our society now. Alas...

[clarice]

FTA: Mr. Biden was on his first visit to Michigan of 2020. It’s a remarkable coincidence that he happened to speak to the same ObamaCare-funded organization which just a few months later would be accused by CBS News of duping the network into presenting a more dire picture of virus testing than actually existed.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/cbs-says-fake-news-wasnt-theirs-11588789238?mod=djemBestOfTheWeb

[henry]

Phone txt is a key to work from home. I suspect my employees wouldn’t mind if I misplaced the thing.

[Narciso]

When you get a post from me, its on my phone, i forward things like the draft from my laptop.

[sbwaters]

Kev: That reached my ears in '68. I'd just turned 13 and was in my 3rd year of burying 19 year old Marines and Army dead from The Nam.

Yeah. Fifty-two years ago. That was the summer before my Senior year in college when I wrote my CO application. At the time, I believed [naively, it turns out] that it was the job of the United Nations to keep peace in the world, not of single nations.

They were bound and determined they were going to draft me as my grandfather had once served on the draft board. My attorney, Marvin Karpatkin, considered it one of the best applications he had ever seen.

I have changed my views since then, and written a book or two that lay things out pretty clearly.

To be continued...

[Extraneus]

Wisconsin says, due to lockdown, it will give driver's licenses to teens without making them take a road test

LOL.

[Pinandpuller]

Does a Derecho flatten curves ?

[Dave (in MA)]

I don't think anybody I work with knows my cell#. I'm online all day with a 27" screen, e-mail, IM, fargin' Microsoft Teams; no need to communicate by poking at a 5" rectangle.

[Narciso]

Condolescenced again gus.

[James D.]

Wisconsin says, due to lockdown, it will give driver's licenses to teens without making them take a road test

THIS is the kind of nonsense that makes me scream and call for guillotines etc etc etc.

It's SO stupid and offensive and harmful to the public on every level.

First, it's endangering the public by allowing drivers on the road who are not properly qualified.

Second, since there's a lockdown, the teens who'd be given these licenses don't have anywhere to go anyway, so what the hell does it matter if they have their licenses or not?

Third, why does the policy only apply to teens? Shouldn't it apply to anyone who wants a license but doesn't have one yet?

Fourth, if the state will give licenses to teens (the most unsafe group of drivers, as SCIENCE has proven time and again) without a test now, then why should there ever be a test for anyone?

Fifth, will the driving test administrators now be fired, since their services are clearly no longer wanted by the state?

Sixth, do any of the clowns who came up with this plan have an IQ above room temperature?

[Porchlight]

I have a flip phone so no one expects me to use it for work. And no one's going to pay for a work phone. So, it's a win.

Meanwhile my coworkers complain about having to do so much work from home. Why? Because they use their personal phone to do work, and because they don't turn off work email notifications. These are not people required to work from home, on the whole. They just do it anyway because they have martyr complexes. No sympathy from me.

[lyle]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/84fd3ab994046ad0ff5ed3a6b56d700474ed3e554b1c165c02bfc93546971e7e.jpg

[James D.]

Lyle, that assumes she's actually got one.

Which, if she does, talk about the most unenviable job of all time.

[lyle]

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4e8056759695598fbf0f09b3a5d7006e96bd326006e55b1f32acbfd9ced8d3e6.jpg

[Porchlight]

It is outrageous, James D.

There is no demand for teen driving right now - they're not going to get jobs anytime soon and they don't have to go to school.

I know - I have a 16 year old who doesn't even have a learners' permit yet because she takes the bus to school, when there is school. She can't yet visit her friends or go shopping or out to eat. There is nowhere for her to go right now. If she were to get her old job back, maybe, but the bus works great for that and is free. And her job is at my library which is closed for the summer.

Makes no sense - except revenue from drivers' license fees?

[Melinda]

What's that, Sgt. Schultz?

https://thegreggjarrett.com/obama-sends-private-letter-to-national-archives-claiming-confidentiality-to-not-release-biden-ukraine-docs/

[lyle]

One more...

https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6dc7b88cff45db793cef5f1cc0ffb642ed5c5b490e2d1216bde0f7022d8a610b.jpg

[Neo]

Tanzania President Cancels $10billion Chinese Loan; Refers To The Terms And Conditions As One That Can Only Be Accepted By Drunkard Person.
https://www.nairobiminibloggers.com/tanzania-president-cancels-10billion-chinese-loan-refers-to-the-terms-and-conditions-as-one-that-can-only-be-accepted-by-drunkard-person/

[Narciso]

Jack carrs first book the terminal list is going to be adapted by amazon with chris pratt.

[Jane]

,

What did the ex employee say? What was he jailed for?

[Pinandpuller]

This judge in Dallas who’s upbraiding the salon order sounds exactly like Andrew Cuomo. We have to stop lawyers from NY and CA from moving to other states inland until we can figure out what’s going on.

On a side note the judge said the lady “defiled” the order. Pompous ass.

[Neo]

The $2.2 trillion coronavirus relief law, the CARES Act, gives an extra $600 a week in federal aid to unemployed workers.
That enhancement ends after July 31. In some states, it ends a week earlier.
After that, jobless workers would just get their state unemployment benefit only. Prior to Covid-19, that state benefit replaced roughly 40% of prior wages for the average worker.
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/04/unemployment-benefits-will-be-reduced-after-july-31.html?recirc=taboolainternal

[henry]

Spoke to Gus on phone. The Patrick Cudahy plant (Smithfield / CCP) has reopened. So no bacon shortages here. He also noted we are being tracked by cell phone to make sure we stay at home (both local and national).

[Captain Hate]

HOF zombie

Orange County is arresting Republicans for the crime of going to the beach.

AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, Orange County is ... releasing sex criminals, rapists and child molesters from jail out onto the streets! :

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ o-c-district-attorney-warns-residents- after-release-of-7-high-risk-sex-offenders -during-coronavirus-pandemic/

O.C. District Attorney warns residents after release of 7 'high-risk' sex offenders during coronavirus pandemic

"Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer on Tuesday issued a warning to residents after seven registered sex offenders who he said were "high-risk" were recently released from custody early, amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

Spitzer said the convicted men spent "just days" in jail ...

The inmates who were released are:

Luis Joel Ramirez, 27 -- his criminal history includes sexual battery...

Rudy William Grajeda Magdaleno, 39 -- his criminal history includes child molestation, indecent exposure, assault, battery

Kyle Albert Winton, 40 -- his criminal history includes annoying or molesting a child, criminal threats to cause great bodily injury or death...

Jose Adrian Oregel, 46 -- his criminal history includes unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, oral copulation of a person under the age of 18 and causing great bodily injury.

...etc. etc. etc.
Posted by: zombie at May 06, 2020 03:26 PM (N9G0H)

[Narciso]

The last laugh

https://mobile.twitter.com/BillGertz/status/1258063952539529248

[Jane]

TK,

My 3;26 was ro you re: Fauci.

[Narciso]

Welcome to the party have a beer:

https://mobile.twitter.com/bethanyshondark/status/1258063687233003520

[Neo]

Chinese state media releases animated propaganda video mocking US coronavirus response
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05-01/china-state-media-propaganda-video-mock-us-coronavirus/12204836

[Jane]

I’m really worried about All the liberals leaving Ny and moving to Fl.

Just saw my 2nd “dump Trump” sign. I can’t even imagine voting for someone with dementia. If nothing else Trump has shown how important a good leader is.

[Captain Hate]

They make 'em full sized in Texas

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387142

[Narciso]

There has someone from boston, who showed up on the beach on monday.

[clarice]

especially for sbw--Taki takes on the AP and KO's it:https://www.takimag.com/article/politifukt/

[Jane]

Marlene made it back to Maine. Won’t have internet for a few days!

[James D.]

Read CH’s 3:35 and 3:45 and tell me the country is not too far gone.

At the same time that local governments are releasing highly dangerous sex offenders back into the community to prey on citizens, they are sending actual armored vehicles out to close down bars that dared to open up for customers.

In the eyes of our elected and bureaucratic officials, cutting hair and pouring drinks are crimes that demand an immediate and forceful response, but rape and murder are a-ok.

[Dave (in MA)]

Marlene made it back to Maine.

That's a big downgrade in terms of governors.

[Neo]

BREAKING:  #SCOTUS denies request by PA businesses and individuals arguing Gov Wolf overstepped his authority by ordering their businesses closed.  Order stands.

[James D.]

Boy, there’s a shock. Of course the SC would not do its actual job and uphold the constitution.

[lyle]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/reaganmccarthy/2020/05/06/gov-whitmer-runs-political-ads-as-michigan-waits-for-reopening-plan-n2568314

Mich Bich has her priorities.

[Melinda]

CH & henry-

Clarice's 3:46 is superb, for its quality, but should become a research project.

Necessary Evil and Bikini Atoll are killer names, as are most of the "Craft" tags.

[clarice]

Texas Governor orders released from jail of salon owner who defied shut down order.

[henry]

Melinda, yes. I knew of that brewery... now to get a Texan to ship some bottles / cans here...

[Another Bob]

"OK, what if the Chinese had a long-term plan ..."

That reminded me, I had a mini-screed about Chinese ownership here.

OL, I very much want property rights respected, virtually sacrosanct. I want that in America and between Americans.

I care not about the property rights of Chinese in America. Why? Because China cares not about the property rights of Americans in China. Chinese businesses and government are among the biggest thieves in the world. If an American chooses to try and own property in China, well, you bought that ticket so you take that risk and ride.

If *any* activity is identified that points toward Chinese gameplaying with US property, to the detriment of America and Americans, I have zero problem with confiscating that property and auctioning it off to provably American interests.

[Tom R]

My wife had already sent me the link to the video that TK linked at 2:34. I watched the entire video and during the time it took me to watch the video the number of views had increased by over 600,000.

The doctor comes across as credible and from an influence perspective the video is effective. It triggers all the "conspiracy theory" confirmation bias going around. I would like to know how long she was kept in jail and if it is true she was never charged with any crime.

[Marlene]

Hello! I’m going to try this on the phone. Dave (in MA) that is for sure. When we crossed the state line this morning,I almost cried. The electronic flashing sign was the most dire and restrictive warning we saw on our trip north. I had to laugh yesterday, because the most traffic we had on the trip was on 495. I guess Mass. folks were driving around looking for masks. :)

[sbwaters]

Who can produce Whitmer's ads if Michigan businesses are on lockdown. Essential service?

[Melinda]

OMG this is awesome.

The Richard Pryor Show.

"To Kill A Mockingbird"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE1f4awlxVc

[Captain Hate]

Do you want me to research beer names, Mel?

[sbwaters]

Clarice, earlier, and for a different article, I called it #postmodernjournalism.

Twitter seemed to accept it as a hashtag.

[Melinda]

I need something to move my Geiger Counter Palate. Need to find someone to ship. Our own UraniumOne project, as it were.

[Extraneus]

Maybe the SC wants that case to come up through the lower courts, rather than just granting an injunction.

[Neo]

Kraftwerk co-founder Florian Schneider has died aged 73
No ‘fun, fun, fun on the autobahn’

[lyle]

https://victorygirlsblog.com/mystery-coronavirus-timeline-deepens/

I think it’s been here way longer than the “experts” will let on.

[KevlarKid]

sbw +1 +1 😎

[Old Lurker]

Sorry, he is just plain wrong about this unless he is willing to say it was done to us on purpose:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-coronavirus-worse-than-pearl-harbor-9-11-attacks

If his complaint is China should have told us sooner, sure, but that is not an attack (like Pearl Harbor and 9-11 just in case you thought he meant some broader, softer use of the word). Is there a written rule somewhere that makes it an act of war to not tell the world about some bug currently infecting some people in that country?

If that is how he wants to use the words, then what about previous flus to include the Spanish Flu - was than an attack on us by Spain and if so, that was a lot bigger.

He needs to apply the rule of holes.

This is not like him, frankly.

[Ralph L]

Got my $1200 check today. Might cover the 2019 taxes I haven't paid or filed yet.

[Old Lurker]

Ext "Maybe the SC wants that case to come up through the lower courts, rather than just granting an injunction."

Or wait for the hundreds of other suits from all the other states so they can roll them into one.

[Tom R]

OL @ 4:37

Do you think Trump came up with that talking point off the cuff and on the fly or do you think he and his advisors strategized what he was going to say?

Words matter and Trump's decision to use "attack" is IMO encouraging his supporters to read between the lines. See MM's earlier post with the multiple "what ifs" for reference.

[Extraneus]

Yes.

I would agree on the Pearl Harbor thing, but they've been using some strong language with China lately. I think Grennell said there would be a "reckoning" a couple of weeks ago. Yesterday a WH spokesman said China's actions "would not be forgotten." Trump himself said they were "culpable." Surely there's an overall strategy in play.

[henry]

Press butthurt over reopening & testing. Plus “oh no, the urban minorities!!!”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

[Extraneus]

Yes was to your point on all the suits bubbling up into one big one. I just hope Roberts doesn't chicken out.

[henry]

Force businesses to wear masks!!!

Perhaps make the White House press corps wear bags on their heads.

[henry]

Nicely trashing Rep Lowery for her “publicity stunt” request forFauci to testify.

[Tom R]

ChiComm/CNN counterpoint to Trump.

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1257964992030277632?s=21

[Extraneus]

Murphy extends NJ emergency another 30 days.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-jersey-coronavirus-murphy-extends-public-health-emergency

[Extraneus]

Michigan House, Senate Sue Gov. Gretchen Whitmer over State of Emergency Extension

[Ralph L]

Shouldn't they try state courts first?

[sbwaters]

@presssec just sliced the press gaggle who dared to gotcha-question her if she wanted to take back a comment she made about the China ban about Trump keeping the virus out of the U.S.

She asked if a half-dozen of the MSM wanted to walk back some of their comments about CV ... and then ended the press conference.

Heh!