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May 06, 2020

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Jane

SC just issued an emergency order to release the hairdresser from jail. Never seen so much outrage in my life - everyone in the TX govt was on TV last night going nuts. Good.

Bye bye Judge.

Dave (in MA)

Now hairdresser will find out that she contracted Wu while in the slammer.

Old Lurker

A-bob, I think some of us were saying the same thing even before game day, and have not changed since. So no 20/20 hindsight involved.

Why would anybody want to live in a country where the decisions of the leader of the moment are beyond question. Those societies do exist elsewhere and have for thousands of years. We are not one of them.

Yet.

Jane

"You're my excuse to drink at lunch today! ;-)"

We are drinking at lunch today? Oh good! I think that's soon!

Melinda

Steph-

You have to use The Lunch Locator Button!!

https://buddig.com/store-locator

(Order online pop-up)

Some time I'll have to share my Fool's chicken recipe again that REQUIRES Carl Buddig Beef....

lyle

Now hairdresser will find out that she contracted Wu while in the slammer.

If so, she’ll have a pro bono legal team lining up at her door to sue the ever-lovin’ snot out of the judge, county, state et al.

henry

AP:

@stengal

Reasons why CDC guidance was shelved:
1. Guidelines say states should not reopen while their Covid cases are increasing.
2. Trump admin wants states to reopen regardless.
3. White House does not want to be accountable, and guidelines would make them so.

https://twitter.com/stengel/status/1258358817122856960?s=21

rse

Steph-the Publix I was at yesterday at 7 had good supplies.

lyle

Well, I’m not drinking at noon today, but in honor of jimmyk’s 60th b-day, this evening I’ll open up my last 1960 Latour...

[narrator: lyle doesn’t have a 1960 Latour, alas]

😂

henry

@vickimckenna

Leftwing democrats want a bill to CANCEL RENT

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1258418453645611013?s=21

lyle

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2020/05/07/comrade-dewine-vows-to-veto-bill-curtailing-health-directors-ultimate-authority-and-limiting-stay-at-home-orders-n388773

DeWine is putting the puke in the Repuke party to good use, yes?

Tom R

AB @ 12:00

First off, it's a lame strawman to claim I or anyone else here thinks Trump is God or has god-like powers.

With the apparent exception of OL, there isn't one person here with a functional crystal ball who possessed all the information and scientific evidence that has been collected over the past 2 months back in February/early March timeframe that would allow them to make an informed decision on the proper course of action to take.

Trump was forced to make a decision based on what limited information he had available to him at the time. OL and others now criticize that decision with 20/20 hindsight. Since Trump continues to insist that the social distancing shutdown was the right decision to make, what purpose does the constant criticism serve other than to undermine Trump?

henry

The people in charge while we are shut down. Cudahy version.

https://fox6now.com/2020/05/06/needed-to-be-done-alderman-cited-for-assaulting-mayor-over-covid-19-outbreak-at-patrick-cudahy/

henry

Gee, criticism of stupidity might be directed at correcting ongoing poor decisions. Which Trump makes on occasion. This shutdown is a doozie.

Tom R

Henry @ 12:26

Portraying Trump as stupid is what Progtards and NeverTrumpers do.

lyle

https://www.theonion.com/conservative-militia-group-prepares-for-societal-collap-1843290320?utm_campaign=TheOnion&utm_content=1588784923&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=twitter

Old Lurker

Henry, thank you for noting the decision was stupid, not the decider.

Words matter.

Narciso

He chose poorly, based on incomplete info.

Narciso

Dont amputate your foot with a fleshwound duh

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Mel and RSE...

the Buddig site itself says out of stock for the beef at Walmart - I guess that means nationwide...

Kroger was out this morning and has been for weeks.

Walmart was my next try...

I'll hit Publix later today and see. I bought the last two packages of Hillshire Farms thin sliced beef at Kroger. Way more expensive than the $.50 a pack at Kroger/Walmart for Buddig.

But overall the 'hang up' prepacked deli was mostly out. Last week it was the hot dog section which was better today.

The butcher shop in Loganville said yesterday that prices are spiking and gave as an example Sirloin Steaks... they buy it bulk and cut in house and it went from $7.99 a lb to $15.99 a lb. in two weeks. Boxed meats are hard for them to come by (whatever that means?) but they can still get slabs. They were out of ground beef, but only because they sold all they had ground up that morning and had not had a chance to grind up more. 3 person per limit in store and about 5 people waiting outside to enter. I bought a whole filet and they trimmed and cut it for me.

They were also out of chicken after I bought the last 5 lbs of boneless breasts. Not even any wings or drumsticks.

I am now stocked for 45 nights of dinners if the need arises. We tend to eat out 3-4 nights a week so that should set me up for several months - assuming the restaurants don't start having shortages.

RSE... check out farmersandfishermen website. They are part of Halpern's group and supply Buckhead Rest Group and are now doing home delivery and their prices are surprisingly decent. And the quality is BRG superb.

From the founder:

Message From the Owner of Farmers & Fishermen, Kirk Halpern

"Farmers & Fishermen has been getting a lot of questions lately in regards to our current supply and ability to continue servicing the community through our Home Delivery Service. On our April 29th Newsletter, I shared the Chairman of Tyson Foods remarks that "the food supply chain is breaking."

Our Company has acted proactively on securing staple meat items such as beef and chicken. With that said, the market is experiencing something I have never seen before in my 31+ years in the meat business - we are at a 40-year high. We are dedicated in continuing to take care of your family on nutritious products of the highest quality levels. Please know I believe you'll find that some of our prices on certain items have been adjusted. We are taking every measure we can to flatten the curve within this up-market. Thank you for your support" - Kirk Halpern, Founder & CEO

Narciso

Tom r, you were in the gulf war, this novella im working on takes place in part in arabia and yemen, you want a look.

Tom R

OL @ 12:36

Is this better?

Accusing Trump of making stupid decisions is what Progtards, NeverTrumpers and OL does.

Threadkiller

With the apparent exception of OL,..

Why do you worry about someone you believe occupies the smallest percentage possible of the makeup of JOM?

It shouldn’t get you so twitapated.

Narciso

Of course they strip out the context

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/371139/

Narciso

We replaced the meter back in december, we got the same reading as in janiarys bill.

Extraneus

China Accuses U.S. Of ‘Blame Games’, Reiterates Opposition To Coronavirus Origin Investigation

President Trump has confirmed U.S. Intelligence will continue its probe into China’s role in the alleged cover-up of the coronavirus.

Meanwhile, a spokeswoman for China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs has pointed the finger at the U.S. for playing what she called “blame games.”

While speaking Wednesday, the Hua Chunying claimed China worked in a timely manner to make the facts quite clear about the coronavirus. She also said the country has also cooperated internationally with epidemic prevention and control.

Chunying even went on to address reports, some of which are coming from top levels of U.S. government, regarding the country’s effort to conceal knowledge about the virus for personal gain.

“The claims that China is concealing the epidemic situation, delaying notification to the world and making benefits from the outbreak are sheer nonsense,” she stated. “China has always maintained an open, transparent and responsible attitude.”

The spokeswoman went on to reiterate China’s opposition to an investigation into the origins of the virus by calling it a “hasty international inquiry under the presumption of guilt.”

Nothing says openness and transparency like refusing to participate in an inquiry.

Threadkiller

Twitterpated:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AZcXpqBfLDI

peter

Jane, I think I mentioned to you that a friend of mine has only one eye due to a kick boxing competition he engaged in when much younger. Get a newer car with all the gizmos that warn you of adjacent traffic--he swears by it. He drives an MB.

Buckeye

Early on in the -19 fiasco, it was unknowable as to whether the hospitals would be overrun.

Once it became clear that wasn’t going to happen, it was too late:

1) The media latched on to the “gotta shutdown until a vaccine” narrative.

2) Fauci and Birx endeared themselves to the public.

3) Trump got distracted by trees (ventilators) in the forest (getting effed over by the 90% of DC that hates his guts).

Ralph L

How many sick and dead would we have if all our big cities had the same as the NYC area?

Someone needs to nail down why they were so much worse before the next virus hits.

Tom R

I must have struck a nerve. Once again TK trying to instigate drama and put me on the defensive. Nice try.

Extraneus

Newly released 8/2/2017 Scope Memo from Rosenstein to Mueller:

Mueller investigated Flynn for the "crime" of "engaging in conversations with Russian govt officials" during the Trump transition.

The Logan Act. Wow. pic.twitter.com/0fpxKS7TkW

— Techno Fog (@Techno_Fog) May 6, 2020

Rosenstein is starting to reek. What a surprise.

Narciso

Density and denography large cohorts of chinese americans although san fran was less effected incompetemt prog leadership.

Threadkiller

Your 12:51 sounds defensive.

Narciso

Demography affected incompetent.

Tom R

Early on in the -19 fiasco, it was unknowable as to whether the hospitals would be overrun.

Finally someone who acknowledges the reality that Trump was facing.

Once it became clear that Trump's social distancing policy successfully flattened the curve and prevented the healthcare infrastructure from getting overwhelmed, Trump released new "back to work" guidance that factored in all the new information and evidence acquired in the time that elapsed after the initial decision was made.

Rocco

Boxed meats are hard for them to come by (whatever that means?) but they can still get slabs.

Shortly after I partied myself right out of college, I cut meat for a few years, first in a meat processing plant where forequarters and hindquarters were broken down into smaller pieces that were then sent out as boxed beef to various supermarkets. Then, I briefly worked in a supermarket where that boxed beef is broken down and cut into steaks. Hips for example might come 2 or 3 to a box and then cut up into New York Sirloins with the help of a bandsaw.

Slabs, dunno, maybe that's what they call a forequarter or a hindquarter?

Threadkiller

I’ll let you go back to your non dramatic conversations, Tom.

Sorry for the interruption.

Old Lurker

Ralph "How many sick and dead would we have if all our big cities had the same as the NYC area? Someone needs to nail down why they were so much worse before the next virus hits."

Always good to learn from things like this.

Always good to also remember what we learned from the last ones. It is not an accident that the upper classes in Italy, France, Germany and Britain all knew it was safer to move to their country houses until the current plagues burned through the cities.

You ask about "big cities"...but look how many states have but one or two of those, if even that? And virtually none of them look like NYC in how they are built and work.

Point is, of course, that one size almost never fits all.

And that ain't news.

anonamom

Airforce flyover at 1:15, Piedmont NCarolians!

Narciso


Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/15poundstogo/status/1258368319285006341

anonamom

https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/1529726/c-17-globemaster-iii/

Rocco

Yesterday, our small community hospital had 54 positives with 10 on vents. Twenty two deaths so far. Hasn't peaked here yet.

Cuomo stole my wife's mask!

Off to do some chores

anonamom

Toasting frontline workers with a 1986 Lynch Bages Grand Cru Classe Pauilliac

Here's to the hospital cleaning staff who worked many weeks in the presence of Covid, without hesitation.
Not to mention the Harris Teeter and ABC store people too.

Ralph L

Too late, Anonamom. They did the northern piedmont before noon.

Old Lurker

Hey TK. Since he was dressed so colorfully and played music so nicely, the first few rats who followed the Pied Piper off the cliff to drown in the river were naturally just following their leader. How could you describe the rats at the back of the pack as anything but stupid to do the same?

The front rats can blame the leaders. The rats at the back have only themselves to blame.

Lots of rats in the middle of the pack probably wish the rats behind them had spoken up about their doubts if they had them so most of the rats might have survived.

Old Lurker

My Boston kids report the same, Rocco.

Captain Hate

Daily Sundown update

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387147

jimmyk

HAPPY 60th

Shh, amom! I still think of myself as the senior member of JOM's youth brigade, which includes narciso, porch, rich among others. Thanks, though, and to Jane too. Glad you're doing well.

Ralph, density, sheer size (21 million in the metro area), and international travel. No other place in the US has that combo. But don't ask me why Tokyo didn't have the same experience.

Tom R

OL @ 1:10

Since I don't possess TK's skills at finding old posts, can you tell us when in February/early March that you informed JOM that there was nothing to worry about from COVID 19 and that it was a mistake on Trump's part to do what he felt was the right thing in protecting Americans from what the people in Wuhan and Italy were going thru?

lyle

I keep wondering why Vancouver, BC didn’t get slammed with the WuFlu. I was there a decade ago and the city was exploding with growth from wealthy Chinese buying up high rise condos.

On another note:

Toasting frontline workers with a 1986 Lynch Bages Grand Cru Classe Pauilliac

Cheers! 🍷

Narciso

Ah yes i thought that flight from iran to vancouver would have made a difference

lyle

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/05/07/how-about-no-katie-hill-tells-karen-to-hold-her-hairbrush-in-thread-lecturing-americans-on-why-they-have-to-wear-a-mask/

YGTBFKM

Jane

Jimmy,

I thought you were turning 10! How rude!

Rocco

OL, I keep them and all our JOM Frontline Hero's in my prayers.

Porchlight

It was Trump's solution to prevent the healthcare infrastructure from getting overwhelmed which was stated up front as the primary goal.

It was not. Trump didn't shut down anything.

The governors and mayors are responsible for the shutdowns.

Jane

Do you guys think "SChiff is in panic mode"? That's the headline all over TV

Porchlight

Someone needs to nail down why they were so much worse before the next virus hits.

Not shutting down or cleaning the subways, and in fact reducing the number of trains thus increasing the density on each train, probably had a major impact.

lyle

I’m pretty sure this has been brought up:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/05/07/disastrous-brit-hume-drops-cuomo-with-damning-nyt-piece-on-his-covid-policy-fails-leading-to-infections-all-across-the-country/

Pretty damning.

Jane

Peter,

I already drive a MB - but don't seem to go too far. 41k miles in 6 years. I still plan on beating the odds and get this eye back. We shall see. (Or at least you will)

Narciso

Shorthamd can be tricky, the energency declaration enabled the localized shutdowns

lyle

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2020/05/07/former-democratic-senator-says-trump-criticizing-china-for-the-virus-is-like-hitler-raising-to-power-n2568375

Is there anyone who worked in the Zero administration who wasn’t a POS?

henry

Why would a Schiff be in panic mode? As if the media would focus on anything bad about him. Life with a free pass doesn’t lead to panic.

Porchlight

Yes, narciso, but there have been emergency declarations and no shutdowns in the past.

Several of the emergencies are still ongoing.

This is on the governors.

lyle

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2020/05/06/lab-theory-of-wuhan-virus-cooked-up-in-a-neocon-lab-n2568349

The Skull Shifter Knob has gone round the bend. Neocons? Really?

henry

@hsu_spencer

BREAKING: Lead prosecutor Brandon Van Grack withdraws from Michael Flynn case.

https://twitter.com/hsu_spencer/status/1258447513553682434?s=21

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

China Hoarded PPE, Then Demanded Countries Praise China in Order to Get It Back
Straight out of the Narcissists' playbook.

Narciso

I thought he had already given up the ghost on that case.

Extraneus

Do you guys think "SChiff is in panic mode"?

I doubt it. He's a shameless liar, as everyone who cares already knows. Even Nunes said there's nothing earth shattering in the transcripts.

The Michael Atkinson transcript is another story, but that's effectively buried.

Captain Hate

The Blonde Scarecrow spares no effort for look-at-me happy endings.

anonamom

You all need to tell any and everybody who will listen that Gretchen Whitmer CAUSED hundreds--perhaps thousands--of the deaths in Michigan--the highest in the midwest.
By far.

She threatened to pull licenses from pharmacists who filled HCQ scripts,as well as the docs who wrote them. On March 26.
Not too many docs would put a pharmacist in the position of losing his livelihood, even if they were willing to risk theirs.

So, she prevented what has empirically proven to be an effective treatment of early Covid.
SHE is who caused those people to get so sick they had to go to hospitals, where they died.
SHE made a political matter out of what should have remained a medical decision.

Let her take responsibility for the consequences of her decisions.

Extraneus

Throwing Texans in jail whose biz's shut down through no fault of their own is wrong.

I am eliminating jail for violating an order, retroactive to April 2, superseding local orders.

Criminals shouldn’t be released to prevent COVID-19 just to put business owners in their place.

— Greg Abbott (@GregAbbott_TX) May 7, 2020
Threadkiller

The governors and mayors are responsible for the shutdowns.

The Feds incentivized the shutdowns with Covid Bucks by the trillions. How long would the lockup have lasted if Trump gave the bill the middle finger treatment?

The blame at this point is shared, IMO. But Trump could have stopped it. Instead, he chewed Massie a new asshole for requesting that the constitution be followed.

Narciso

Coulter fails the tufnel test at times.

Captain Hate

Speaking of attention deprived blondes

https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/05/07/a-ton-of-news-coming-megyn-kelly-not-cnn-not-msnbc-teases-upcoming-on-camera-interview-with-joe-biden-accuser-tara-reade/

Tom R

Lyle @ 1:36

AFAIK GEN Petraeus is the only high profile member of the Obama administration who wasn't a POS.

Melinda

henry-

He withdrew across the board, which answers Jane's question about Schiffty. YESSSSS.

Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
It's not just the Flynn case.

Van Grack is withdrawing as counsel for the Govt in other cases as well.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's it for Van Grack at the DOJ.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1258451997935747073

[I find it hysterical that Schiff is blaming Grenell for his own withholding of testimonies.]

Threadkiller

Good for Abbot. That is much more assertive than his Lt Governor’s wimpy grandstanding plan to pay her fine.

Narciso

Well someones got to do it, did mike wallaces whelp ever interview reade?

lyle

Big Mike’s tough life:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/television-review-becoming-michelle-obama-documentary/

Don’t read on a full stomach.

Threadkiller

I think I’ll skip the Coulter article

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Grewsome gettin' his brown shirt on;
'Every One of Them': California Begins Forcibly Quarantining People – Separating Families – Over COVID-19

On Wednesday, the soft voice of Ventura County Health Director Robert Levin confirmed that the forcible quarantines are underway. He announced a “pilot program that will grow into a larger program” and “we will find everyone with COVID-19 and we will isolate every one of them and we will make sure that they stay quarantined and we will check in with them every day. In other words, what this program means is we’re going to do a more complete job, we’re going to do a more meticulous job of making it less and less possible for others in the county to run into someone with COVID-19 infection.”

Levin said that we also realize that as we get more contacts, “some of the people are going to have trouble with being isolated, for instance, if they live in a home where there’s only one bathroom, and there are three or four other people living there and those people don’t have COVID infection we’re not going to be able to keep the person in that home. Every person whom we’re isolating, for instance, needs to have, uh, their own bathroom. And so we’ll be moving people like this into other kinds of housing that we have available. They’ll also have other needs perhaps – food, whatever it’s going to be – the county will be there to back them up and to support them.”


Isolation and Quarantine

The Centers for Disease Control says there is precedent for forcibly removing people and locking them up in quarantine:

Isolation and quarantine help protect the public by preventing exposure to people who have or may have a contagious disease.

Isolation separates sick people with a quarantinable communicable disease from people who are not sick.
Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.

In addition to serving as medical functions, isolation and quarantine also are “police power” functions, derived from the right of the state to take action affecting individuals for the benefit of society.
Federal Law

The federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.

Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

Captain Hate

Baucus knows that China has the Uigurs in concentration camps that happened under his watch, right Max? Idiot!

lyle

Petraeus, you say? He’s the one who had an affair with his official biographer, yes?

Narciso

Being a full chad:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242552796.html

Extraneus
the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.

That's not a legal slam dunk.

Btw, does that mean mandatory testing for all Californians? Even in downtown Oakland? Heh. I'd like to see them try that.

Extraneus

Btw, the "and between states" part implies that Trump could have locked down NY state.

Narciso


Say what?


https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2020/05/07/it-appears-justin-trudeau-may-have-accidentally-banned-the-black-rifle-coffee-company-from-canada/

Tom R

Lyle @ 1:56

Yes. If infidelity makes someone a POS then that applies to Trump too. Obama spied on Petraeus before he spied on Trump. No telling how many other high profile people Obama spied on.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Scott Johnson at PL believes that whatever color Rosenstein's hat, it's in the shape of a dunce cap.
"The hits just keep coming. We know that Rod Rosenstein is an idiotic tool, but we had yet to see the scope memo he issued months late to authorize Robert Mueller’s work as independent counsel."

clarice

henry, you beat me to it. The Van Grack across the board withdrawal seems to me to be big news.

Jack Lillywhite

Jane,

I bought a new MacBook Air. My iPad is a second generation from about 2016.

Narciso

He gets shipped back with the gorilla shirley.

Narciso

Rosenstein not von grack but ymmv.

henry

Stone’s prosecutors withdrew, didn’t seem to matter. Why does Van Grack matter?

Porchlight

The Feds incentivized the shutdowns with Covid Bucks by the trillions.

That's backwards. The shutdowns caused the need for the Wuhan bucks.

Narciso

Thats in the next declassified memo.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Could he have w/d from all cases as he has been informed he is about to be charged?

I don't think the Justice department would want their lead prosecutor current under indictment on ANY case.

Narciso

They pulled that string and von grack goes poof,

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Mollie Hemingway dismantles the NYT, that Politico punk Tolchin who wants Biden coronated, Politico itself for trying to disown Tolchin and pretty much everyone else in the vicinity.
And by dismantles I mean destroys.
Is she a murder hornet or an executioner wasp?

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