Free The Net!

Eugene Volokh preps for a Trump Executive Order on social media by taking us through the current law on publisher, distributors and platforms.

Hard to see where Trump is headed with this but away we go!

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[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

In blue states the motto is Net the Free!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Hard to see where Trump is headed with this but away we go!--

Persuasion of the public, not coercion of the commies; as always.

[Extraneus]

I guess my last comment in the previous thread was unnecessary. :-)

[MissMarple2]

Extraneus,

Thanks for that discussion of Section 230. I am wondering if the earlier law for National Emergency discussed by Carlos Osweda last night overrides it, and if that law was used for unreported negotiations with the tech guys to get them to suck it up and knock it off.

Isn't this an interesting time to live? I sure think so!

Addendum: Extraneus posted a link to Volokh's article before Tom put up this new thread, so I only felt it fair to link my reply here as well.

[Extraneus]

Anyway, after reading Volokh's piece, I got the impression that if Twitter, YouTube or Reddit censor their commenters over politics, they may move up the immunity chain and no longer have platform immunity to libel lawsuits. Gab, on the other hand, would still be immune, even if they remove porn, threats, and other illegal or patently offensive content.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/STCgxGezrQ

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 28, 2020

Important part of President Trump's comments. Video at the link, about 2 minutes.

[henry]

It should be addressed like parental controls. I need a button to opt out of these firms acting as my parent.

[Extraneus]

Department of Education: Transgender Athletes’ Competition Violates Women’s Rights

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — A Connecticut policy that allows transgender athletes to compete as girls in high school sports violates the civil rights of athletes who have always identified as female, according to a letter from the U.S. Education Department’s civil rights office that was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

(Link goes to Breitbart.)

[henry]

Or make it an open platform for censorship where independent censors could compete — like search engines within browsers.

[henry]

Either way, the government would be addressing the concentration of market power (and FTC thing) without messing with liability shields that make blog comments possible.

[Extraneus]

Clarice linked this theory on the previous thread.

With his tweets about Scarborough's intern, Trump set a trap for Twitter

[MissMarple2]

henry,

Within the last 2 weeks I have noticed HUGE numbers of Twitter users attacking people with all sorts of insults, and most have under 100 followers.

I routinely block them now, which takes a great deal of time. However, since I think most are from the DNC, Iran, or China, I am willing to do it.

One of their memes is a story from Fox saying that Ivanka was given 5 trademark rights from China at the same time the trade deal was negotiated. Now, that may or may not be accurate, but if it is, I can see the CCP making a big deal of granting those and holding the announcement until a controversy heated up.

Since she is totally consumed with the business of getting people back to work, I do not see her doing a double-dealing action like that.

That link seems to be frequently used by the bot posts, and always formatted the same way.

[Extraneus]

It does seem like the EO was already prepared, even if it's undergoing final edits.

[Jim Eagle]

Explains it all.

https://www.daybydaycartoon.com

BTW, No launch tomorrow, Friday or Saturday if our turbulent weather continues.

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

Thanks for the launch info.

HA! on the cartoon!

[MissMarple2]

Accomplishments today outside of Twitter:

Entire house vacuumed

2 pieces of small wood furniture repaired with hot wood glue and a glue gun

ALL laundry done

Chicken salad made for supper

[KevlarKid]

Will the 9th Circuit Court of Schlemiels rule against the D.Ed letter on trannies?

[MissMarple2]

Kev,

I cannot answer that as I am as oblivious about legal issues as astrophysics.

We will have to wait for the opinion of someone like clarice.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Nordic Countries Accelerate Opening and Abandon COVID-19 Testing Plans

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
22m

Very exciting news for the Phoenix area—
@USDOT
is committing $100M to
@valleymetro
for a 5.5-mile light rail system with 9 new stations connecting underserved areas to churches, emergency services, and more!

[Threadkiller]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-preventing-online-censorship/

[Tom R]

Coming to a university near you. Bama just sent out an email to all students announcing they have partnered with Apple, Google and the state department of health to create a contact tracing app that students can voluntarily opt in to use.

The letters claims this contact tracing tool won't sacrifice the privacy of the individuals who use it. Really? How do they guarantee that?

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
24m

.
@USDOT
is committing $21.8M for the FIRST transit project of this kind in the Tampa Bay region. It will connect St. Petersburg to popular beaches through state-of-the-art transit buses with FREE WiFi. Will be a major help to heavily populated parts of the Great State of Florida!

[Jane]

Yum.

Great dinner.

Onion rings (brought home enough for a week) and lobster bisque. Incredible lobster bisque. I am full as a tick and I've actually been in a restaurant.

We were the first people there, and as people started to arrive, I leapt out and ran to the door. Not my usual style, but I was really hungry. My neighbors just laughed.

I've gottn really weird.

[MissMarple2]

Jane,

I think everyone has gotten a bit weird. I know I have.

Hey, though, we aren't burning buildings down!

[Dave (in MA)]

I've seen multiple reports that Knoller was included in the CBS whackings, but he continues to tweet under his CBS byline as recently as 20 minutes ago.

[Captain Hate]

NBC has banned reporters from saying "riot" when reporting on Minneapolis.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 28, 2020 06:10 PM (iydjf)

But they're really sooper serious about free speech you guys...

[peter]

By the way, to correct something about the Belmont Stakes posted on the last thread, this year's Stakes will not be a mile and a half. It will be a mile and an eighth this year and will run on June 20, 2020, not June 6th.

[MissMarple2]

Theory:

"The Apprentice" was on NBC and the big shots are worried that the President Knows Stuff they would rather he didn't.

HA!

[henry]

The “not a riot” is still going full steam.

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1266123814863331329?s=21

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
7m

I’m excited to commit $100M to FL in
@USDOT funding to connect fast-growing communities through state-of-the-art transit service! Fast, safe, and beautiful infrastructure!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--By the way, to correct something about the Belmont Stakes posted on the last thread, this year's Stakes will not be a mile and a half. It will be a mile and an eighth this year and will run on June 20, 2020, not June 6th.--

Do the horses have to wear veterinarian masks and wear pool noodles on their heads to keep their jockeys six feet apart?

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
9m

Big announcement for the State of Indiana! $77.5M committed in @USDOT funds for a “game-changing” transit project to provide fast and frequent service to the people of Indianapolis and Lawrence.

[Rocco]

henri,

St Paul's burning, here's the St Paul Police scanner. Might be worth leaving it on in the background.

https://m.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/13544

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
13m

Indiana is set to receive $100M in
@USDOT transit funds for the @southshoreline
to connect people to jobs around the State and the Chicago-area and help cut down on traffic.
@GovHolcomb has worked very hard on this project!

[MJW]

The Lancet study of HCQ is being questioned in an open letter from a number of doctors and researchers, both for the quality of the data and for transparency. At least some of the data were clearly wrong. The number of deaths attributed the five Australian hospital exceeded the total number of Australian Covid deaths in the relevant time period. When challenged, the company that supplied the data said that deaths from an Asian hospital were misattributed to Australia.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
15m

I am proud to commit $60.9M in @USDOT
funding to provide a BRAND NEW bus system for a very busy and popular transit corridor in the Albany, NY area—more help coming to the people of New York!@CDTA

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
16m

MAX Red line in Oregon is set to receive $99.99M in
@USDOT funds to reduce delays in the Portland area, connect citizens to very important locations, and make transit GREAT! @trimet

[hrtshpdbox]

It will be a mile and an eighth this year..

So not even a real Belmont. Maybe the Derby will be five furlongs.

[Rocco]

And this guy's posting different live feeds from both St Paul and Minneapolis. Can't vouch for him, just found him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Bar4sCW7Q

[henry]

Soros must be making his big move... Antifa scheduling riots for Denver.

https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1266127979429548032?s=21

[hrtshpdbox]

They just announced last week that they were changing the Belmont date; I wasn't aware of that when I posted on the last thread (or, actually, until about 82 seconds ago).

https://sports.nbcsports.com/2020/05/19/when-is-2020-belmont-stakes/

[Narciso]

I came up with a few more thousand words with a twist like bryan mills but on a soanish highway.

[henry]

Chicago lit off.

Now NYC too

https://twitter.com/breaking911/status/1266133660467675137?s=21

[hrtshpdbox]

Maybe it would be a good idea to arrest that killer cop.

[Jane]

Yes Hrtsh! NOW!

[Extraneus]

I'm not through reading through it yet, but that EO is dynamite.

(b) In May of 2019, the White House launched a Tech Bias Reporting tool to allow Americans to report incidents of online censorship. In just weeks, the White House received over 16,000 complaints of online platforms censoring or otherwise taking action against users based on their political viewpoints. The White House will submit such complaints received to the Department of Justice and the Federal Trade Commission (FTC).

[Jim Eagle]

If I am Antifa,this not a time to do he urban mischief hustle.

Everyone is bunkered down and you are out robbing the stores we need?

But then that may be a motivation to join. Who knows?

[Extraneus]

I'm referring to TK's link from 6:07.

[GUS]

Capn, just dropped a wee note at ACE 6:42.

And Capn', I drove past this little bizness in Lomira Wisconsin on Tuesday.

https://www.bakerias.com/US/Lomira/1055192007957998/Sug%27s-Creations

[Extraneus]

Complaints described in section 4(b) of this order will be shared with the working group, consistent with applicable law. The working group shall also collect publicly available information regarding the following:

(i) increased scrutiny of users based on the other users they choose to follow, or their interactions with other users;

(ii) algorithms to suppress content or users based on indications of political alignment or viewpoint;

(iii) differential policies allowing for otherwise impermissible behavior, when committed by accounts associated with the Chinese Communist Party or other anti-democratic associations or governments;

(iv) reliance on third-party entities, including contractors, media organizations, and individuals, with indicia of bias to review content; and

(v) acts that limit the ability of users with particular viewpoints to earn money on the platform compared with other users similarly situated.

[peter]

hrtshpdbox, no worries, and Prayers for the Mrs.
Iggy @6:27, no because horses cannot cough.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

.
@USDOT
is committing $99.95M to @PGHtransit inP ennsylvania to connect Pittsburghers to their two largest commercial employment centers through safe, quick transit service. Great things coming to a great State!

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

https://www.ibtimes.com/american-airlines-layoffs-2020-airline-looks-cut-staff-30-2984083

American Airlines Layoffs 2020: Airline Looks To Cut Staff By 30%

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
39m

Ogden, Utah, I am committing $64.5M to build bus service between Weber State University and McKay-Dee Hospital—very important services for Utahans!
@RideUTA

[Jim Eagle]

There is a new Mrs. Iggy? If so, congrats and stay safe and healthy.

The things you miss here 24/7.

[henry]

Fascinating that Trump is pushing mass transit when that is a big driver of Kung Flu infection in NYC.

[GUS]

Did NBC require their employees to call the RIOTS,

That "MATTER" being undertaken by AFRICAN-AMERICAN utes???

[hrtshpdbox]

Peter, and all, Mrs. is fine and sleeping peacefully, thanks! Jane, I'm glad you had fun at dinner.

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

Via email from Prager U:

Facebook just announced that they have identified PragerU as a fake news media outlet and they will, therefore, restrict our reach to our own audience. Even people who have chosen to follow our page will be deliberately prevented from seeing our posts.

PragerU has millions of followers on Facebook and is the leading voice for conservative content online. Our videos are presented by some of the finest minds in the world, including Pulitzer Prize winners, former prime ministers, scientists and professors from the most prestigious universities.

Every day, we hold the mainstream media accountable for blatant misinformation and bias. However, Big Tech has been supporting a one sided politically motivated narrative and censoring alternative points of view.

[Narciso]

I noted that correction earlier mjw. There is so much chicanery involved here

[President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA]

btw, I really liked Dave(MA) bright banner that said "NEW" in the last thread.

I hope everyone will consider making that a tradition?

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
·
43m

I’m proud to commit $40.9M in @USDOT funding to Milwaukee’s East-West Bus Rapid Transit project. Bringing modern transit to the region’s most critical corridor and spur millions in economic development. Love Wisconsin!
@RideMCTS

[Narciso]

So chauvins previous use of force was acceptable thao is less no.

[James D.]

Maybe it would be a good idea to arrest that killer cop.

They should because it’s the right thing to do, not to appease the mob.

The mob needs to be dealt with using riot police, and RICO prosecutions of the Antifa and whoever else is coordinating and funding them.

[henry]

That project removes traffic lanes on one main road from Brookfield into Milwaukee. Everybody here hates it. Why all the mass transit cash? It sucks.

[Rocco]

St Paul, NAPA on fire. Pregnant woman shot at. Things heating up.

[Another Bob]

Minnesota prosecutor says video showing George Floyd's death is "terrible" but says there's "other evidence that does not support a criminal charge"

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/FHDMd4jx78

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 28, 2020

Video at link. New ad.

[Narciso]

Deja vu

https://www.thedailybeast.com/feds-probe-white-cop-who-appeared-to-suffocate-george-floyd-in-viral-video

[Threadkiller]

Kabuki Kash, henry.

[Narciso]

Similar to the description i pulled up this morning

https://m.startribune.com/what-we-know-about-derek-chauvin-and-tou-thao-two-of-the-officers-caught-on-tape-in-the-death-of-george-floyd/570777632/?refresh=true

[Narciso]

This is who cbs saw fit to fire apparently

https://www.washingtonian.com/2014/06/30/war-torn-cbs-reporter-cami-mccormicks-latest-story-about-combat-and-its-aftermath-is-her-own/

[Jane]

What evidence doesn’t support a criminal charge. You don’t sit on someone’s neck for 6 minutes if you don’t intend to kill them.

[MissMarple2]

This should end well... https://t.co/t0sbf5uxe9

— 🇺🇸Brenden Sir Hublife Dilley🇺🇸 (@DilleyShow) May 28, 2020

Video at link. I can't help but think some of this is pre-planned. I wilsome l wait to make judgement, but it does seem like people are trying to incite riots.

[Narciso]

Its not easy to bring a conviction you can go back to thr mcduffie case in 1980, the voir dire was such they moved the trial to tampa miami burned the following spring in a perfect storm with the onset of the mariel boatlift and the spark of the cocaine cowboys in earnest

[Narciso]

What a chuckwagon drezner turned out to be

https://mobile.twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1266064077190770688

[hrtshpdbox]

..there's "other evidence that does not support a criminal charge"

If Floyd, before the camera started rolling, had leapt to his feet, spat in the eye of each cop, kicked each cop in the groin, and somehow taken one of the cops pistols from its holster with his mouth and shot each cop in the leg, there would still be plenty of evidence that Office Knee should be arrested for manslaughter.

[Extraneus]

Maybe it would be a good idea to arrest that killer cop.

Seem like a no-brainer. He killed a guy who didn't need killing, and it wasn't by accident. What's worse than that?

[Extraneus]

Guess who.

Chris Hayes: Why Is There a Different Reaction to Peaceful Protesters Who Are Actually Peaceful Protesters and "Peaceful Protesters" We Only Call Peaceful Protesters Because It Would be Racist to Say "Rioters and Looters"?

[Narciso]

They didnt have cameras or social media in 1969

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1980/05/21/mcduffie-death-it-seemed-to-be-open-shut-case/181a3552-c09d-4652-afb1-a9f4f0998a23/

[MissMarple2]

John Solomon

@jsolomonReports
·
10m

Former GOP Senator and Secretary of Defense Hagel says he’s backing Biden in November | Just The News

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/former-gop-senator-and-secretary-defense-says-hes-backing-biden-november

[Narciso]

The dog returns to his biden

[Extraneus]

For anyone who hasn't guessed based on the headline, maybe this will help:

Why, indeed? Why do we not mass arrest non-lawbreaking white people while using tear gas to disburse rioters, looters, and arsonists?

I hope John Sexton's post won't get him in trouble with Karenpundit, the Salon #Hot25 True Conservative who has long had a homoerotic crush on the archprogressive toadling and dainty-fingered bridgetroll Chris Hayes.

[Narciso]

In other news if this goes sand pebbles
https://mobile.twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/1266013859065868289

[MissMarple2]

The Associated Press

@AP
·
14m

President Trump and his allies are questioning the conduct of a Minneapolis police officer and calling for justice for George Floyd. It's a different tone than they've taken with previous killings of African Americans by police.
-----------------------------------------
Well, so if you improve, (and I am not saying he was bad anyway) the AP is still going to trash you.

FU, AP.

[Threadkiller]

Does Hagel still own a voting machine company?

[hrtshpdbox]

Chuck Hagel, what a wuss. He and Romney can have a pajama party election eve, and cry into their cups of hot cocoa.

[Narciso]

You didnt say simon sez

https://mobile.twitter.com/marthamaccallum/status/1265683102703255555

[Captain Hate]

Love the comment SUG!

[Narciso]

So in the mcduffie case they cracked his skull then covered it up.

[Extraneus]

NBC Bans Reporters From Using the Word "Riots' To Refer to The Minnesota Riots

[Narciso]

Seriously

https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnWHuber/status/1266138887241547779

[Rocco]

Amazon driver robbed, took off on foot after robbers.

[Rocco]

Fire inside Discount Tire.

[Rocco]

Fire inside TJ Maxx

[James D.]

Mark Helprin said it best in Winter’s Tale: “The more arsonists and looters we shoot, the less arson and looting there will be. Isn’t that self-evident?”

[Rocco]

That was Target not TJ Maxx

[Narciso]

Jb reminds me of this fellow

https://mobile.twitter.com/RattlerGator/status/1266150092601528320

[Rocco]

Cops being pelted with ocks ask permission to fire gas cannisters...approved.