Hit The Beach!

Mother Nature has picked a side in the New York area beach debate, at least for Saturday. Rain today, cool and partly cloudy (which means partly sunny!) Sunday and Monday. The nice(r) weather and good spirits should be infectious!

Comments

[cathyf]

First?

[Jim Eagle]

If they come out to Southampton, it is $50 per car to park at Cooper's Beach. It is full by 0900hrs each day in the summer. One way the Village has kept oour taxes low. The Town, OTOH, is another matter. Plus my Beach Stickers are free since I am a vet.

There are people who own Million dollar McMansions and still have to pay $500 for a beach sticker if said McMansion is not their permanent domicile.

Hooked you, sucker/

[rse]

JIB-

Red says those going to our old haunts in the 30-A corridor in the PH are being told by oldtimers to bring their own groceries as there is little stock in area grocers before the rental season began.

[Captain Hate]

Willowed

So from now on it's just a matter of opening an investigation that targets the incoming AG, and voila, castrated AG? Caint be.

I think that's exactly what McCabe did which is why there's debate around whether recusal was proper.

[jimmyk]

Also willowed

More on those time limits on emergency authority, regarding a lawsuit by an Illinois state legislator against Pritzker:

According to the lawsuit, the Governor’s actions are not authorized by state law, as they extend beyond the 30-day time period imposed by the Illinois legislature for the Governor’s exercise of emergency powers granted under the Act.

https://althouse.blogspot.com/2020/05/the-department-of-justice-today-filed.html

Some complicated issues about federal vs state jurisdiction, need a second cuppa Joe to read it.

[Threadkiller]

That Russian Chicago cover was great, Gentlejim.

I agree.

[Tom R]

CH I answered your question at the end of the last thread.

[Extraneus]

I think that's exactly what McCabe did which is why there's debate around whether recusal was proper.

Exactly. Who TF was McCabe to personally cripple an incoming administration with a bogus "investigation?" He and Comey should have been fired on Day 1 and replaced with trusted people before the AG and DAG were nominated.

That will certainly be the practice from now on when the WH changes parties. Mass firings of all US Attorneys and IGs, too.

Those dorks killed the FBI. No one will ever trust them again, and Wray should be canned next.

[Threadkiller]

Jeff Sessions “following the law” tripe is such a baby excuse. If Mr Honorable was truly that he would have quit his job right out of the gate. Advise Trump that he needed an real outsider. A shark.

The idea that Sessions had no other option than to recuse is ludicrous. He could have left the first week and said: “There are shenanigans going on here that I will not facilitate in any manner whatsoever. It is the honorable thing to do.” Instead he let it boil over until he could blackmail Trump with: “her is my resignation but it will look real bad of you fire me while you are under investigation.”

[Captain Hate]

One more thing on recusal: I don't think Sessions was essential to oversee the fake investigation. Just like any executive he can delegate it to a trusted underling. I know there's disagreement on the content of Rosenstein's character but the ultimate resolution of the Mueller investigation wasn't damaging to Trump no matter how much the House tried to spin it.

[Threadkiller]

...a real outsider.

[Captain Hate]

Extraneous and I are in complete agreement.

[Threadkiller]

the ultimate resolution of the Mueller investigation wasn't damaging to Trump

Time lost that would have been resolved much sooner if Ryan let Nunes complete his investigation. Instead, Ryan helped the Dems investigate Nunes. The 50 some transcripts all shared a common theme; everyone who worked for Obama said the Russian collusion didn’t happen. Those interviews needed to happen at the beginning of 2017.

Mueller could have wrapped it up in 2 months, if a Special Counsel was truly necessary. Then it is Durham time.

Shipwreckedcrew maintains that Rosenstein was too disconnected from the SC, and I think that is the most charitable I can be on him as well.

[Extraneus]

If Rosenstein had Trump's back, Sessions' recusal wouldn't have made the slightest difference because Rosenstein would have shut down Comey and McCabe in a heartbeat. Another Sessions boner.

[MissMarple2]

As I told Kev at the end of the last thread, Sessions did NOT notify the President before recusing and I still don't understand why Sessions didn't take Homeland Security (with immigration) rather than INSIST on Justice.

[Jane]

This is great:

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/05/acts-treason-david-horowitz/?fbclid=IwAR2AKo-JU8J_DafQmIur7CUDRZjCDmP1cRta7rTVMzDuC3kzTLJcDy1qN_w#.XskWO2JkRbY.facebook

Acts of Treason

The crime that dare not speak its name.

[Old Lurker]

Willowed #1:

""AG Barr and Jonathan Turley both say Sessions did the right thing in recusing."

"Doing the right thing" is a subjective standard seen through the eye of the beholder. That is not the same thing as "Required by Law".

[Tom R]

TK @ 10:20

I think your knowledge and understanding of the law compared to Turley’s is minuscule.

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/390200-jeff-sessions-shows-no-good-deed-goes-unpunished-in-washington

https://jonathanturley.org/2018/11/11/more-sinned-against-than-sinning-the-sacking-of-sessions-leaves-a-dangerous-delusion-for-trump/

https://jonathanturley.org/2020/03/04/trump-continues-to-attack-sessions-over-his-ethical-recusal/

[Old Lurker]

Willowed #2:

"I take it back: there is something in the US Code that there was a debate at the time of the recusal of whether Sessions was violating by not recusing himself."

A Debate about an issue is not the same thing as making one side right and the other side wrong.

Of course there was a debate: the Recusal Rocket had been launched and all forces meant to get it done.

Like taking out Flynn.

[MissMarple2]

That Trump campaign acts FAST! Here's their new t-shirt:

https://shop.donaldjtrump.com/products/youaintblack-tee-1

HA!

[Old Lurker]

Willowed #3:

Also, of course many states have laws on their books that empower their governor with emergency powers.

Even so, NO such law is legal if it violates the Constitution of the US.

So it is not just "the people" or the "legislature" that can serve as brakes on a Tyrant, it is the POTUS and his DoJ and ultimately SCOTUS that can stop the madness.

Judging by progress to date, if this is all just a test run to see how far they can push the people away from their rights and liberties, well the Progs must be happy as clams.

People are being real stupid letting this continue.

[Captain Hate]

Tom, I think you let your personal sense of right and wrong skew how you regard big decisions. Taken to a ridiculous level, your defense of the TR commander could be applied to someone at D Day who held his troops back from participating in the first wave; history wouldn't consider that person a hero.

I feel bad for how things shook out for Sessions (as sorry as I can feel for someone with a net worth that dwarfs mine) but you're completely discounting that through time and personal interactions, Trump may have figured out he wasn't the person he was hoping he was. Executives make hard decisions that aren't instantly popular or easy to understand.

[Captain Hate]

To be clear, I'm not arguing against anything OL said.

[Jim Eagle]

rse,

As our local Publix manager explained to me in terms of logistics, is that their busy season is November to April-May when the snowbirds are here. I know at our club it gets close to doubliing the population.

So, supply chain guys schedule more trucks per week during that time period to stock the stores. After the big influx goes back home, you don't need a truck a day but maybe 2 a week.

I bet the same applies in reverse seasons in Southampton. It is pretty much a skeleton of itself from November to late May. And Citarella, Stop and Shop and King Kullen get the same supply chain dynamic that Publix, Winn-Dixie and other chains get here in the summer.

CoVid19 has kept the Hamptons at near summer levels of shoppers and users. It affects not only the supply chain but transportation, warehousing, and with a lot of workers out, labor intensity.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A grove or perhaps clump of willows;

--For OL and any others NOT surprised that one now goes to Harvard Bus School to learn how to reimagine capitalism.--

And that is why I hate the term capitalism. You can't reimagine a free market because a free market is two persons voluntarily making an exchange at a freely and mutually agreed upon price. Change any of those elements and it is no longer free or a market.
But capital can exist in any but the most purely Marxist system, including ones entirely devoid of freedom and markets.

--But Ig---Gundry is not first line.
You know that, right??? ;-)--

Don't tell Gundry that.

--You still intermittently fasting?--

Intermittently.

--#1. No one should be punished for doing the ethical right thing and following the rule of law.--

But McCarthy points out it was not the law if it was a counterintel investigation.
Even more importantly, it demonstrates the need of a conservative being pressured to "follow the rule of law" to do his due diligence and make sure that is what he is being urged to do and not being urged get out of the way of a political hitjob, which is a failure of both him and Rosenstein.

[Threadkiller]

I still don't understand why Sessions didn't take Homeland Security (with immigration) rather than INSIST on Justice.

It is the difference between a Participant Ribbon and a Gold Medal. The DoJ is way more powerful than Homeland Security. Sessions planned on effecting change that could only be accomplished from the position of AG, and I commend him for that.

Unfortunately Sessions wandered into the office looking like GrandPa Joe trying to take in all the wonders of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory.

[Threadkiller]

I think your knowledge and understanding of the law compared to Turley’s is minuscule.

We agree.

[Tom R]

Trump may have figured out he wasn't the person he was hoping he was.

Unfortunately that appears to be the case. Trump was being truthful when he said the AG was supposed to protect the POTUS. I always those tweets were kabuki intended TK trigger low IQ Progtards.

[Tom R]

S/b intended to trigger

[Threadkiller]

Oh, I forgot to ask. Would you mind quoting my comment that disputed “the law?”

It would be on this page somewhere.

[MissMarple2]

I am pleased to report that my older granddaughter is NOT pleased with Joe Biden and not only was aware he is a racist but a crook, and had already listened to those tapes from Ukraine.

She said that she may not vote for the President, but she will NOT vote for Biden.

[Captain Hate]

Trump was being truthful when he said the AG was supposed to protect the POTUS. I always those tweets were kabuki intended TK trigger low IQ Progtards.

You're putting too many eggs in that basket. Trump may have not liked other aspects of how he did his job. I'm imagining DJT being a very demanding hardass to work for and someone stuck in the slow motion way of doing things in the Senate for decades may have been a poor fit. I'm thinking a Ric Grenell type is much more what he was hoping to get.

[Threadkiller]

That is good news, MM!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

To expand on my 10:43 Sessions only options were not recuse immediately, resign or not take the job at all.
The investigation being conducted was an illegal political hitjob. In that case upholding the rule of law AND protecting the president are one and the same.
All the coup plotters knew it was a farce. The intelligence and knowledge proving that was available to Sessions and Rosenstein with a little digging.
No law ever requires an AG or anyone else to step aside so an illegal act can occur. Just the opposite.
Sessions or Rosenstein doing their job right would have dug into the claims and supposed predicate underlying the cause of any investigation of the president and would have been to fire the people responsible and prosecute any of them who committed crimes and explain to the American people what happened.
As to optics; what better optics than this anti-American cabal exposed and shamed three years ago and Trump's presidency unencumbered by three years of a false inquisition?

[Tom R]

TK @ 10:45

Jeff Sessions “following the law” tripe is such a baby excuse.

If your opinion on Sessions recusal differs from Turley’s, on what basis do you or anyone else here think your opinion is correct while Turley’s is wrong?

Before someone invokes an appeal to authority fallacy, I’m operating under the belief a Constitutional law professor who defended Trump during the impeachment proceedings has superior knowledge of the rule of law over anyone here at JOM.

[Threadkiller]

You have a reading comprehension problem, Tom.

“A” is a “ a baby excuse” because “B” was available. Get it?

Or are you suggesting “the law” didn’t allow Sessions to quit his first week?

[Extraneus]

Sessions or Rosenstein doing their job right would have dug into the claims and supposed predicate underlying the cause of any investigation of the president and would have been to fire the people responsible and prosecute any of them who committed crimes and explain to the American people what happened.

Exactly. And Sessions had the benefit of knowing personally that the Russia hoax was indeed a hoax. He didn't even have to dig into it to know that.

[Threadkiller]

And Sessions had the benefit of knowing personally that the Russia hoax was indeed a hoax.

Sessions recent memo to his fan club suggested exactly that. He trys to blur the timeline, but it is clear he knew early on there was a big issue at DoJ.

[Tom R]

As to optics; what better optics than this anti-American cabal exposed and shamed three years ago and Trump's presidency unencumbered by three years of a false inquisition?

The optics of Mueller proving that the allegations of Trump colluding with the Russians were false are infinitely superior to the optics of the 3+ years of Democrats and Fake News media accusing Trump of shutting down the investigations and firing the patriotic FBI agents protecting the country because he knew he was guilty of colluding with the Russians. It would have also been impossible to get convictions for the coup plotters under that scenario.

The way reality has played out is beyond beneficial for Trump and maximizes the chances of getting convictions.

[GUS]

Tk, Sessions will be history in a few months. He can go back to napping.

[Captain Hate]

In case anyone thinks I automatically agree with Trump's personnel decisions, I'd have sent that annoying squeaking rodent, dear sweet Kellyanne, packing the first time her fat slob husband made an ass out of himself by parlaying his marital status into getting the enemedia to look at him.

But that's why the Golden Scalpweasel is the big dog and I'm not.

[Threadkiller]

My bet, Gus, is that Sessions declares war on Trump after Tuberville wins. He once said something to the effect of “I didn’t write a ‘tell all’ book when I could have done just like everyone else.”

[Tom R]

...and would have been to fire the people responsible and prosecute any of them who committed crimes and explain to the American people what happened.

IMO zero chance of getting any convictions following that course of action.

[GUS]

TK, Sessions got sandbagged by a comedian with a lisp. Once Tuberville mops the floor with him, he's toast. Burnt toats.
Sessions is a wannabee. So he could have written a book. MEIN KAMPF.

[Threadkiller]

TomR @ 11:16

I think your knowledge and understanding of the law compared to Barr and Durham is minuscule.

[Threadkiller]

Sessions will fail with the book deal because Trump and Tuberville will have already won.

[Captain Hate]

The investigation being conducted was an illegal political hitjob.

We knew this but the enemedia started pimping Russia, Russia, Russia immediately after the election. Paul Ryan was conducting things in the House as if it was a proven fact as did Burr in the Senate. I don't think there was a realistic option other than a Mueller type investigation to get the majority of the public on board. Hell, the loons on Patterico's monkey island still consider it to have happened beyond any room for debate.

[Rocco]

And Trump wanted Sessions to investigate Hillary, which he ignored, until he was forced. So to appease those pesky house guys, he appoints Huber to whitewash the investigation. Perhaps that also has something to do with Trump's opinion of the guy.

[Threadkiller]

I’m out of here before any “here we go again” comments pop up.

Hopefully you can diagram my 10:20, Tom, and confess your error at least to yourself. Your debate skills will improve.

[JM Hanes]

When is an appeal to authority not an appeal to authority? When Tom R claims the authority he's citing is an indisputable authority.

When is a logical fallacy not a logical fallacy? When Tom R says it all makes sense.

[Threadkiller]

SWC:

https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/05/23/visits-by-fbi-inspections-division-can-have-real-consequences-heads-do-roll

Have a nice day everyone.

[GUS]

Third week of DECEMBER 2016. Bi-Barry and his bois, Clapper and Brennan, pretended that 63 intel agencies all agreed that RUSSIA WAS INTERFERING IN OUR ELECTION. One month later Sessions is A.G. and bought stock in sominex.

[Threadkiller]

:-) JMH

[GUS]

But SESSIONS was a friend of Rodham in the senate.

He's such a southern gentleman!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Before someone invokes an appeal to authority fallacy, I’m operating under the belief a Constitutional law professor who defended Trump during the impeachment proceedings has superior knowledge of the rule of law over anyone here at JOM.--

Your explanation to defuse the "appeal to authority" argument is kind of the textbook definition of an appeal to authority. Explaining the bona fides of the authority you're appealing to cements the fallacy, it doesn't resolve it.
If he were not qualified to have an opinion then you would be guilty of the less common "appealing to just some guy" fallacy.

Andrew McCarthy is arguably at least as authoritative on this subject and has come to the opposite conclusion from Turley so we have the examine their arguments not their qualifications.
I find McCarthy's more persuasive.

[Rocco]

I'm out too, my granddaughter spent the evening in the ER, she sprained her ankle jumping on a trampoline. She's fine, x-rays were ok and today she misses her Nana and Bumpa. So Nana made cupcakes which is something they used to do together every Saturday, then we're off for a visit.

Oh, and I have a son who lives in BERlin MA.

[Tom R]

JMH @ 11:23

If believing a subject matter expert like Turley and AG Barr understand the law better than pundits is an appeal to authority, what logical fallacy describes the belief that pundits understand the law better than Barr and Turley? An appeal to ignorance?

[Threadkiller]

🧐

[Art in Newport]

Miss Marple, I want to take a minute and thank you for the links you post, on current happenings and events of current interest.

[henry]

SWC’s faith in the FBI inspection routine is charming. Based on the performance of the highly trusted FISA process, I remain skeptical.

[JimNorCal]

Lots of extra memes in the TWIP comment section.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The meaning of life;

[GUS]

No one should be punished for being a useless poser.

[Jane]

Rocco,

EST to your granddaughter, although if you have sprain your ankle, that’s a good way to do it!

[Old Lurker]

Henry,

The FBI "Inspection", at this date in time, simply freezes information and kicks the can down past the election. Rather than see it as Wray finally getting on board, I see it serving his masters in the Deep State.

What, in this case with SWC, and in so many other cases with McCarthy, at some point they imagine they live in a Jimmy Stewart Justice World where lawyers could be assumed to have honor and integrity and respect for the rule of law.

Joke's on them.

While some lawyers of course still deserve that, the "right to assume" it is long gone. In fact, assume that at your own risk.

[Extraneus]

Good link to SWC, TK. Except maybe for this part:

Depending on the size of the office undergoing the inspection, the number of Inspectors can range anywhere from 20 to 100, and the process can take anywhere from a 10 days to two weeks

:-)

[Tom R]

Andrew McCarthy is arguably at least as authoritative on this subject and has come to the opposite conclusion from Turley so we have the examine their arguments not their qualifications.
I find McCarthy's more persuasive.

Do you find McCarthy’s argument more persuasive because it triggers your confirmation bias? Since IANAL when it comes to Constitutional legal matters my confirmation bias gets triggered by people who I consider to be legal subject matter experts. Turley is a liberal Democrat who does not allow partisan politics to compromise his integrity. McCarthy is now a full fledged pundit. Whose argument has the most legal merit? IDK but I think Turley has more integrity than McCarthy.

[Threadkiller]

Had to post this before I head out the door.

https://babylonbee.com/news/biden-if-you-dont-let-me-sniff-your-hair-you-aint-a-woman

[Threadkiller]

Haha! Ext!

[Porchlight]

I do think it's important to remember that we all now have a very large body of knowledge about the coup that we didn't have back in March and Sessions didn't either.

Yes, he got rolled but early days in an administration, especially the Trump administration that was being fought already by the swamp on every level, is an extremely challenging time.

The recusal seemed like the right thing to do in part because the law is pretty clear and also because if Sessions hadn't recused, the opposition would have clamored that it was against regulation not to do so and then that would have become the story. They were determined to get a special counsel on something and I doubt they would have failed to do so.

Sessions had his eyes on his big plans for immigration and human trafficking - which is why Trump hired him and on which he did an excellent job - and the snakes took advantage. I don't think there's much point in overcomplicating it.

Tom R is right that Sessions would destroy Tuberville in a debate. Sessions is clearly the better choice for AL senator IMO but there's too much water under the bridge both in Alabama and with Trump.

[Porchlight]

*back in March 2017

[hrtshpdbox]

The optics of Mueller proving that the allegations of Trump colluding with the Russians were false are infinitely superior to the optics of the 3+ years of Democrats and Fake News media accusing Trump of shutting down the investigations and firing the patriotic FBI agents protecting the country because he knew he was guilty of colluding with the Russians.

If Trump had known, or discovered quickly, the plot that was afoot, he would have unceremoniously shut it down and not cared one whit how the media portrayed it because he'd have known he'd be able to govern unencumbered by corrupt investigators.

[Porchlight]

Ralph L asked about governors' emergency powers expiring - they certainly do and the law is pretty clear in most states.

Kate Brown in Oregon is up against it - like in WI, the Oregon legislature declined to renew her powers and now it's lawsuit city.

https://www.opb.org/news/article/stay-home-order-oregon-supreme-court-churches/

[Melinda]

No one thinking that Sessions brought the candle for the moths that might’ve freed him to work on other things?

Something to ponder, since we already know that Brennan, Clapper, McCabe and Strzok are all “Shiny Object” people, a k a “moths”.

Just my 2p.

[Porchlight]

IDK but I think Turley has more integrity than McCarthy.

I think I agree with this. McCarthy has consistently avoided facing reality about the behavior of his championed swamp buddies and swamp policy until he is absolutely forced to. Turley does the opposite, taking tough legal stands even though it costs him professionally and socially.

[Porchlight]

BTW, Parscale seems to have his eye on Oregon and has done so since at least 2019. Portland is worn down by homeless and Antifa and is taking a huge economic hit thanks in part to Brown who is very unpopular. Maybe they can make Dems defend the state.

[MissMarple2]

Art in Newport,

Thank you for your thanks! I took General Flynn's comment about having an "army of digital soldiers" seriously and it's sort of how I try to help the Administration.

I can't work in the White House but I do try to help. It's nice to be appreciated! Thank you!

[henry]

Melinda, that requires an assumption that a long term DC type is competent. Seems the alternative of power mad putz is a safer bet.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Funny;

[Extraneus]

Andrew Weissmann to Part Ways With MSNBC Over Biden Fundraiser

[Tom R]

Porch @ 12:18

Exactly. Instead of an appeal to authority it's more along the lines of an appeal to integrity (if there were such a thing).

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--IDK but I think Turley has more integrity than McCarthy.--

--I think I agree with this.--

LOL.
Sorry for laughing but this seems like a variation on the argument from authority fallacy; the my authority is more authoritative than your authority fallacy.

It's pretty simple; if Sessions was required by law to recuse from a criminal investigation but not a counterintel one then it doesn't matter what a martyr Turley is, nor what a chump McCarthy is.
Moreover the continuing argument elides the fact that sufficient information was available to both Sessions and Rosenstein at the time to suss out an illegal coup was in motion that their very own department was participating in and their primary duty as AG and deputy AG was to snuff it out, not facilitate it and give it free reign.

[Narciso]

I just came from the beach, i linked the montes bradley piece from last nighr about the network headed by al suri which tied two plots twenty years apart. The odds the plotters didnt give a signal was nil, we may not have captured it because of comey and mueller and wrays temper tantrum, that was an expensive exercise in blood.

[rse]

JIB-that's what is so sad. The PH high season is memorial day to when schools start in ATL in early august. Bumper through the fall. The old-timers are worried because the year-rounders are having trouble getting supplies. restaurants are at 50%, and anyone thinking it will be like normal is going to be alarmed.

My house was gutted and they turned my 2nd floor into 3 master suites, took out the fireplace, and made the 3rd floor a children's area. Will individual families pay those rates or will people return to vacationing with multiple families? They better be ready to cook.

Leaving whatever sense they possess back home was always a problem. Lots of kids who assume they shouldn't hear the word no while on vacation. Because I lived there for months at a time we hardly ever went out except to wine bar for early drinks.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

So Andy Weissmann's ethics are lower than MSNBC's.
Sounds like just the guy to lead an investigation of a president.

[Tom R]

if Sessions hadn't recused, the opposition would have clamored that it was against regulation not to do so and then that would have become the story.

On top of that, Turley points out had Sessions or Rosenstein behaved like a consigliere and shutdown the investigations into Russian collusion, that would have given the Democrats and NeverTrumper RINOs enough ammunition to impeach Trump in 2017 and with all the Nevertrumpers/RINOS in the House and Senate getting paid off by the ChiComms/globalists who knows how that turns out.

[Narciso]

Shipwrecked is more skeptical, mccarthy is still credulous as much as when ali mohammed said he wouldnt leave nyc.

[Narciso]

Youll be shocked to know he didnt follow through

https://quodverum.com/2020/5/the-9-11-plotters-the-world-forgot.html

[Narciso]

This isnt good news

https://asiatimes.com/2020/05/russian-pantsir-systems-neutralized-in-libya/

[Narciso]

From kreindlwr who clarice bested to ladry barcella who elliot referemced his handiworks to jeffrey toobin to andrew weissman same scorpion different tale.

[MissMarple2]

I was listening to President Trump speak in Michigan, and it suddenly occurred to me that while he is very smart and hard-working, he is also a romantic, which is why he is such a good salesman and builder.

He was painting a word picture about Coney Island and his childhood, and in my mind's eye I could see the Coney Island of Cincinnati and the old Riverside Amusement Park we had here in Indy. I could imagine he was planting the idea of an amusement park outside of Detroit with lots of potential beginner jobs for kids.

He sees the same thing in people. Dan Scavino worked for him originally as a caddy, and has been promoted and given more responsibility as he has shown potential. Brad Parscale started out as his IT guy, and now he's his campaign manager.

[Captain Hate]

You guys realize that there's enough wiggle room in how words are used to make either side of the recusal argument plausible, right? I happen to agree with Turley but Levin, who knows a bit about law, has consistently argued otherwise. So yammer away all you want but it doesn't prove anything other than making debate club points.

[Narciso]

Kreindler and larry barcella, who pointedly didnt go after wilsons lieutenants who were available for iran contra.

[Porchlight]

Sorry for laughing but this seems like a variation on the argument from authority fallacy; the my authority is more authoritative than your authority fallacy.

Iggy, I can't speak for Tom R, but I don't think I'm doing this. I don't really care what Turley thinks vs. what McCarthy thinks wrt Sessions and I'm not even interested in their arguments because this whole subject is pretty boring to me (I'm surprised I've waded in this far).

I'm just saying that generally speaking I respect Turley more than I do McCarthy.

[Narciso]

Levin remembers it didnt matter that meese was exonerated twice he was treated as a leper for the better part of a decade in dc

[boris]

The argument just illustrates my point that lawfare is a rigged system with rules neither deep state nor dimorats are held to that only apply to unwary GOPe cucks.

The fact that the argument continues here ad infinitum shows how successful a rigged lawfare is against rule followers, OCD nimrods, and a few here a JOM.

[Porchlight]

Heh.

Brad Parscale @parscale

Just to cap off what was, I’m sure, just an awesome day for
@JoeBiden, we’ve unveiled our newest website.

http://youaintblack.com

It’s a reminder that Biden thinks he owns the Black vote and that he can dictate what Black people do.

#YouAintBlack

[Narciso]

I dont trust any of these bastards to do the right thing, do they ever admit their error.

[Extraneus]

Ooops.

If NBC News legal analyst and former Robert Mueller prosecutor Andrew Weissmann participates in an upcoming fundraiser for Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden, it would mean the end of his contract with the news network, the former special counsel investigator told the Washington Free Beacon.

"If the fundraiser goes forward, I’m withdrawing from MSNBC so I can be in compliance with their policy," Weissmann said in a Friday night phone interview, in reference to the network's policy that employees avoid activities "that may create the appearance of a conflict of interest."

[Captain Hate]

Libs really hated Ed Meese. I remember one acquaintance saying something about him with much more vehemence than I thought appropriate and thought "welp the talking points must've been delivered".