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May 27, 2020

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MissMarple2

Dan Bongino

@dbongino
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22m


Remember this Obama gem? I’ll be discussing the critical importance of this on my show today. Recording in a few & will launch by Noon


Obama Admin Releases Long Awaited New E.O. 12333 Rules on Sharing of Raw Signals Intelligence Information Within IC

https://www.lawfareblog.com/obama-administration-releases-long-awaited-new-eo-12333-rules-sharing-raw-signals-intelligence

Jane

Twitter is subject to gif fervent rules than newspapers. They can’t de sued for defamation. First thing you do is subject them to the same rules.

hrtshpdbox

What's that, Jane, covfefe rules? :-)

Narciso


Logic is something some people cant grok


https://mobile.twitter.com/brithume/status/1265759945926021123

hrtshpdbox

Miss M, I always loved that Goldberg's intent was always something simple, like "turn on the light", and with the most overly elaborate (though ingenious) way to get it done.

Narciso

Indeed those were classic.

Jane

Hrts,

So happy for your wife. Does she come home today?

The newspaper rules need to be changed too, to not give them a pass, but it’s a start. I wonder if that ass on twitter will get fired.

Captain Hate

Listening to Grenell on Levin's show last night.

Jane

Btw the riots in Minneapolis were awful, broke into stores and stole everything. The murder of Floyd was worse and they were rioting over the fact the cops haven’t been arrested.

Apparently a grand jury is being convened. The rioters are not reflecting Floyd well as Narc’s link shows.

rse

Relevant to that XO on social media. https://points.datasociety.net/parallel-pandemics-a7d2f5bba9cf

"The novel coronavirus has unleashed two parallel pandemics. One is the biological pandemic of COVID-19. The second is a social pandemic of digital misinformation: an infodemic. This 'infodemic' not just militates against our success in containing COVID-19; it fundamentally threatens to weaken the democratic values that underpin our societies." — Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Center for Countering Digital Hate, Points

Also this "Twitter creating a carve-out for public leaders is 'misguided,' said Joan Donovan, research director at Harvard Kennedy School’s Shorenstein Center, who studies disinformation. 'If world leaders are not kept to the same standard as everyone else, they wield more power to harass, defame and silence others.'" — Kate Conger and Davey Alba, The New York Times

Narciso

I do want to know what made the cops act so stupidly an edict from mayor frey who is w major league jackalope.

Another Bob

henry | May 28, 2020 at 06:02 AM
rich | May 28, 2020 at 05:30 AM

I’m with you. I just don’t see any realistic game-changing club in the bag re. twitter. If the codetalkers see one I wish they’d be plainer about it. (Though the idea of numbers of Twitter management being walked out of Twitter hq in cuffs is intriguing.)

Captain Hate

Here's a link for the Grenell interview

https://newsthud.com/listen-mark-levin-interviews-rick-grenell-about-unmasking-and-the-obama-administration/

Narciso


Some more perspective


https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/05/death-in-minneapolis-revives-blacklivesmatter.php

James D.

narc @ 7:23

Have you ever read anything by Alastair Reynolds?

There's a scene in one of his books where someone's severely injured, so they surgically decapitate her and stick her head on a robot body until they can grow a new one.

I always wondered what that would actually look like. Now I know.

Narciso

Teh horror pin should have warned more thoroughly.

hrtshpdbox

I'm going to get her later today when I get the word, Miss M, I'm sure they'll have some system set up so that I don't even set foot inside the hospital.

hoyden

I don’t recall any rioting or looting after Damond was murdered by police.

Narciso

I must have missed it.

MissMarple2

So, this article is being pushed by Samantha Power:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/27/marco-rubio-russia-obama-282878

In it, Rubio is quoted as saying he's not interested in going after Obama and that it's pretty clear that Russia is constantly a problem.


Ric Grenell has this to say to Samantha Power:

Richard Grenell
@RichardGrenell
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22h

After spending years peddling a Russian collusion hoax, but under oath admitting you saw NOTHING, forgive us if we ignore your new warnings.

Narciso

Why do they insist on proving you wrong for voting for them?

Melinda

narc-

Klobuchar let that cop skate on another "cop related shooting" in 2006.

MissMarple2

Once again, this morning the President is retweeting quite a few people, including Gregg Jarrett, Victoria Toensing, Dan Bongino, and a few private citizens. They include articles and vieos, too many for me to copy here, so here is the link to his page:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

I will check his page frequently and only post those original posts by him.

Narciso

Did she, well tbat does suggest something.

jimmyk

I don’t recall any rioting or looting after Damond was murdered by police.

I was wondering along similar lines. Here we have a local news story trumpeted nationally because it involved a white cop and a black victim. How often is it the reverse? Or black cop, black victim, or white cop, white victim? We can't know because the media don't bother with those stories. (The Damond case was an exception because it was so extreme, though I don't know how extensive the coverage was.)

I'm pretty sure I recall seeing that in general the stats on police shootings were about what you'd expect, in rough proportion to the racial composition of police and criminals.

While it doesn't look good for that cop, I don't care for calling this "murder" until there's a trial and conviction.

henry

CNN dude, but a thread

@b_fung

NEW: The White House did not consult the FCC on a forthcoming executive order pertaining to social media companies, according to a person briefed on the matter.

This suggests the draft order has not gone through the normal interagency review process.

https://twitter.com/b_fung/status/1265790034302701568?s=21

Narciso

I didnt know mark lloyd was in thr building

Narciso


About par for the course


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.insider.com/derek-chauvin-police-history-shootings-violence-george-floyd-2020-5%3famp

Captain Hate

(The Damond case was an exception because it was so extreme, though I don't know how extensive the coverage was.)

Coverage was almost non existent by the national enemedia. I had to check Powerline for coverage, and they included local reports that reported it acceptably thoroughly.

hrtshpdbox

This suggests the draft order has not gone through the normal interagency review process.

If the order includes phrases like "no one has ever seen anything like this" and "really terrible terrible people", that will be the tell.

Another Bob

Narc, I saw that link posted elsewhere, with breathless “the cop likes killing black people”. Except no black people were actually killed.

Cities with civilian review boards make it very easy to complain about police, so complaint counts aren’t necessarily an indicator of anything, really.

MissMarple2


Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump


This will be a Big Day for Social Media and FAIRNESS!
8:37 AM · May 28, 2020·

hrtshpdbox

I've got a prediction. Personally, I think it's hilarious that Trump bats Scarborough around as a cat does with a mouse, but I don't see how he demands internet behavior from others in the current environment. Therefore, in a shocker, Trump will apologize about (probably not to, directly) Scarborough. Trump Apology, I wish I could get odds on it.

MissMarple2


Richard Grenell

@RichardGrenell
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24m

“An overwhelming majority [of career officials] hate the leaks, they hate the manipulation coming from Congress, they hate how oversight is done through a letter, and then you don’t talk to anybody about it, and the (Hill) briefings are ‘gotcha’ briefings.”

(Grenell is quoting himself from this article.)

Paul Bedard

@SecretsBedard
· 50m
Ex-intelligence boss @RichardGrenell rips DC swamp, Politico, Democratic leakers. Tells @marklevinshow, 'An outsider coming in with fresh eyes is like the enemy because you’re going to look at things differently.' https://washex.am/2AjB56A

hrtshpdbox

And I hope Trump leads on this Minneapolis thing (an actual teachable moment) and I think he's smart so I expect he will.

Narciso

This thao guy vietnamese a little dodgiet

MissMarple2

henry,

I read through that thread by the CNN tech reporter.

Not sure he is representing all of the details or the interpretation correctly. I think I will wait until we see something more definitive.

Another Bob

‘Box, where’s the teachable moment in Minneapolis?

Jane

My eye is so screwed up toda8y. I can’t tell if I’m wearing my patch. I can’t tell if I’m wearing my glasses, it’s just a big black hole.. i can’t even tell if it’s open or closed. What a joke!

MissMarple2

hrtspdbox,

He already put out a tweet last night indicating an investigiation had already started:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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14h


At my request, the FBI and the Department of Justice are already well into an investigation as to the very sad and tragic death in Minnesota of George Floyd....

....I have asked for this investigation to be expedited and greatly appreciate all of the work done by local law enforcement. My heart goes out to George’s family and friends. Justice will be served!

MissMarple2

Scott Adams

@ScottAdamsSays
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8m
It feels like progress that our biggest "race problem" this week finds pretty much everyone on the same side while we weirdly pretend it is not the case. I could be wrong, but I think most citizens oppose police murder, riots, and looting, regardless of race.

hrtshpdbox

A-Bob, I think blacks are not unreasonable if they see that video and see racism, and blacks have seen way too many videos like that. Before everyone had a camera 24/7, there were horrible things that happened just the same - at the NYPD, for instance. I don't believe it even is racism, it's just bad cops. Cops have cuffs and nightsticks and guns - every street cop needs a psych eval every year. The teachable moment is that Trump can show the citizenry that bad cops won't be tolerated, that good cops aren't racist, and that blacks don't need to tear apart their own neighborhoods to get an actual response from government that will improve things for the first time ever. Trump can pull this off.

Captain Hate

Jane, I'm very sorry your eye has reacted so poorly to treatment. I honestly was expecting better results.

Extraneus

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hrtshpdbox

Jane, I've been reading about your troubles, I can't imagine and I'm so sorry. Try to stay upbeat, tomorrow will probably be better.

MissMarple2

hrtshpdbox,

IF the jackals in the MSM can shut up long enough to allow him to speak.

The Left is interested in portraying him as a racist, even though he has black cabinet members, Hispanic cabinet members, minorities in high positions, support of black pastors, and has done more for minorities than any of his predecessors.

There also used to be numerous photos of him joking and palling around with black boxers, AL SHARPTON, black singers, and other black celebrities in New York.

Meanwhile, they shove Biden's numerous racist comments and actions under the table

MissMarple2

Jane,

I am so sorry about your eye. I will keep praying for healing.

Jane

Oh guys, I'm sorry I whined. i'm just annoyed. Lot's of people have worse things going on.

Another Bob

"blacks are not unreasonable if they see that video and see racism" We'll agree to disagree on that. The demographics of crime, particularly the sort of crime that people fear most, are well known and beyond serious question. Even Jesse Jackson once acknowledged that in a weak moment.

And "every street cop needs a psych eval every year"? About the dumbest thing I've heard in a long time.

I take it you don't know any police in real life?

hrtshpdbox

Unlike most people and certainly all other presidents, Miss M, it doesn't phase Trump at all when he's called a racist, he'll just say he's the least racist person on the planet and drive on. His authenticity bowls right over the naysayers.

MissMarple2

.@johnrobertsFox gives an update on the new DOJ probe into unmasking. pic.twitter.com/sOdODGVyL1

— The Dirty Truth (Josh) (@AKA_RealDirty) May 28, 2020

Video at the link, with appearance by DoJ spokeswoman. Josh is a good guy to follow on Twitter.

Extraneus

Whine away, Jane. No sense suffering alone.

We're all hoping for a good outcome.

hrtshpdbox

A-Bob, I'm standing by the dumbest thing you've heard in a long time (hey, don't forget I recommended UAL last week, so at least give me 1-and-1). Cops are the greatest, love 'em, and psych evals for street cops might have prevented what just happened in Minneapolis. I think it (the evals) will happen, too, even though so far the only person I know who has mentioned it is me.

Another Bob

We do agree there are bad police. And good luck retaining the good police when you're calling then psych cases.

Melinda

narc-

Here's the piece I was looking at, by a rabid leftist, soooooo:

https://www.mintpressnews.com/chief-prosecutor-amy-klobuchar-dismissed-charges-cop-killed-george-floyd/267933/

MissMarple2

I have to step away for about 20 minutes.

Could someone keep an eye on the President's Twitter feed until I get back?

Thanks!

Extraneus

Trump Rows Across Great Lakes In Surprise Attack To Liberate Michigan

(Click to open.)

jimmyk

Ironic that the Central Park dog lady is being called a 'Karen,' when in fact it was the 'birdwatcher' who was really the Karen by telling her that her dog was supposed to be on a leash.

Central Park ‘Karen’ previously sued alleged romantic interest for stealing $65k, a story he calls ‘fabricated’

She seems a bit off, kind of a young Fran Liebowitz, but doesn't deserve having her life ruined.

Extraneus

TWTR down 5% overnight.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

ASOFB:

The only thing left in the looted Target store was Father's Day cards

GUS

Jane, you are being tested, your attitude is FANTASTIC. I am so proud of you.

Melinda

Ext-

Actually after the EO "draft" news this AM was when it broke.

Threadkiller

Cashill:

https://www.wnd.com/2020/05/intelligence-bombshell-never-went-off

Threadkiller

Praying for you, Jane.

Extraneus

Back up a bit.

jimmyk

LOL, Steph. Reminds me of many years ago when a rabbi got in a bit of hot water for his sermon when he described a very chaotic situation as "like Father's Day in Harlem."

GUS

They don't see racism, they see a cop arresting a man, and accidentally killing him by use of force.
They've been egged on for 40 plus years, that THEY the COLLECTIVE "AFRICAN-AMERICAN" are all victims of WHITES. Who told them this. White liberals.
What they do see is FREE NIKES, and 55 INCH SAMSUNGS.

Narciso


Those cops look at this case and said hold my beer

https://www.wlrn.org/post/forty-years-after-arthur-mcduffie-was-killed-miami-dade-police-his-family-honored-ceremony#stream/0

Narciso

That was the summer i came to miami.

hrtshpdbox

There's a serial killer case that I follow pretty closely, because I came from the area where most of the bodies were found and because I even have some theories about it. They've just made a Netflix movie about the thus unsolved Long Island Serial Killer (which, naturally, is an inaccurate movie based on an inaccurate book), the victims of whom were generally Craigslist prostitutes. One of the impediments to solving the case has been that the police refused to actively solicit the FBI's help, and the reason became clear when the police chief was arrested; James Burke was arrested for brutalizing some junkie in the station house while everyone watched - a junkie Burke was particularly pissed at because he'd stolen Burke's duffel back filled with sex toys and kiddie porn. Burke, who had a history of using and abusing prostitutes himself, is now suspected by some of actually being the serial killer. Probably not, but he was always a nutcase cop and everyone knew it. I hate when people who are authorized to use force abuse it, it makes my blood boil.

https://www.newsday.com/long-island/crime/burke-beating-sentence-1.29630759

Extraneus

Pelosi Appears to Pray at the Podium As She Marks 100,000 U.S. COVID Deaths

Still reacting to Trump needling her about praying.

Narciso

You get some notion here hoe the rank and file feel

http://forums.leoaffairs.com/showthread.php?793881-Any-Idea-Why-The-Knee-Press-Was-Used

hrtshpdbox

jimmyk, that's what I though, if anyone is the Karen it's the guy (though that's not possible, right, Karen's must be females?). Either way, such a silly thing on all fronts, there's a moment in the middle of that video where it seems just on the edge of both sides just saying "this is dumb" and moving on.

Narciso

Are these doctors incompetent jane one gets that feeling?

Extraneus

France Outlaws Hydroxychloroquine As COVID-19 Treatment

“I’m not so sure it should be banned, but clearly the scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of ethicity for it,” said Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “…adverse events, particularly with regards to cardiovascular and the arrhythmia that might be associated with it.”
James D.

We do agree there are bad police. And good luck retaining the good police when you're calling then psych cases.

Police have tremendous power. And in the moment, regardless of right and wrong, regardless of the law, in an encounter with a cop if things get heated or go bad, your choices are to comply 100% (and hope the cop interprets your behavior that way), or to possibly get the crap beaten out of you, or get shot, or best case spend a night in jail and rack up some legal fees.

So, yeah, absolutely they ought to have yearly psych evaluations, and they ought to welcome it. Their power comes with a cost.

And if the vast majority of good cops did a better job of policing their own and weeding out the bad cops, or reining them in so that stuff like this incident in Minnesota, or the Dimond shooting, or other bad incidents, don't happen, then we wouldn't be having this conversation at all.

In other areas of life, in the private sector, the problem of nutcases or jerks who are in public-facing positions is self-correcting. Act like an a-hole to enough customers and people won't come to your store or business anymore, and either your boss will fire you or he'll go broke.

But in the public sector, citizens don't have any equivalent power to refuse to deal with bad cops, so either the good cops do it, or there will be ever more distrust and dislike and for police from the public, and ever more refusal to cooperate. And that isn't good for anyone.

Narciso

I pointed out themcduffie case up thread and fustercluck it caused.

Narciso

What is italian for jackass, because fauci fits the shoe.

RattlerGator

We do agree there are bad police. And good luck retaining the good police when you're calling then psych cases.

Posted by: Another Bob | May 28, 2020 at 09:24 AM

Which shouldn't need to be said at all, given that they are human.

These situations always represent mathematical certainties to me. They will always occur. Rarely, but they will occur.

Like football teams, a total boy scout force is not desired. You need, we need, some roughnecks in law enforcement, and we need some of them out on the street.

X number of those on the street will encounter a situation and react poorly to it.

As with the foolish woman in Central Park the other day, there but for the grace of God go I.

Narciso

Take this dexter morgan character berkland when they dismissed him did they do a review of his autopsies did they do so after he wasnt caught hording organs?

Narciso

Yikes, really stable people in finance. Did she bring a pot for the bunny.

Narciso


Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/JamesTodaroMD/status/1265987825016754176

RattlerGator

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . don't tease me like that, man, don't do it !!!!!!!!! https://t.co/LuA5kEDaSw

— J.B. White (@RattlerGator) May 28, 2020
Narciso

So one of the participants in the lancet study falsified data hmm

Narciso

Where is beeks?

James D.

rg @ 9:57

That's really the question, isn't it? And it comes down to training and what overall approach we want from the police.

Given that there will be bad situations, and human error and misjudgments, which outcome should police be trained towards?

If police are not aggressive enough and there's a dangerous actor, the result is an injured or dead cop.

If police are too aggressive and there's an actor who's not actually dangerous, the result is an injured or dead (possibly innocent) citizen.

Which way do we want the errors to go? As the potentially innocent citizen, I know what my vote is on that.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump


We have just reached a very sad milestone with the coronavirus pandemic deaths reaching 100,000. To all of the families & friends of those who have passed, I want to extend my heartfelt sympathy & love for everything that these great people stood for & represent. God be with you!
9:37 AM · May 28, 2020

MissMarple2

I see Fauci is weighing in on France's decision on HCQ and it seems to me someone should muffle him a bit. I would also want to know what pharma companies in France are working on a vaccine.

peter

Just a quick drop in here because I am swamped with work (which I guess is a blessing.)

Mrs -peter, who is not, unlike most of us here, meaning, she's not a news junkie, told me she saw a video of Biden pawing a bunch of girls. She said she was so sickened she couldn't watch the whole video. We've never discussed this. I view my wife as a kind of barometer of the real world--if this stuff is getting out into the mainstream, even though it is old hat to us, it is still explosive.


Came into work today--I work for a private company that is family owned. They are very successful, but a member of the family called me today, he is bi-polar and was being placed against his will into an institution; it is so sad. Never envy anyone. Everyone has problems, even the ones who own a bunch of houses and seemingly no troubles.

And prayers for you Jane--


Narciso

These bastards are falsifying the deaths in australia for the interval involved are they falsifying the complications from hcq sans zinc.

MissMarple2

Rep. Eric Swalwell

@RepSwalwell

Tick tock. “Those are coming.” Well, you’re no longer director and the Flynn tapes never came. All you have to show for your work is the dirt on your boots from shoveling and burying evidence for
@realDonaldTrump. #ShowUsTheTape
============================================
Richard Grenell

@RichardGrenell

They are coming. There’s a thoughtful process to transparency. For years you went on TV spreading the Russian propaganda - knowing the entire time that not one single person under oath from your committee saw any collusion. Not one. It’s shameful!

Narciso


We had ambinders number years ago even befire we knew he was journolist
https://mobile.twitter.com/SeanTrende/status/1266004233440104449

sbwaters

Jane: My eye is so screwed up toda8y.

Dad wore glasses with the left frame painted black so he didn't have to deal with mottled vision.

He always took his glasses off when meeting children lest they not like the black lens.

I also have a book of his that he lent out to people who had to adjust to using a single eye. I could find it for you.

henry

Tectonic plates moved back a billion years.

https://news.yale.edu/2020/05/26/yale-finds-much-earlier-birth-date-tectonic-plates

Narciso

If a certain drug has the chinese holding the patent and ammost all the funding is going to its developmenr its not rocket science.

hoyden

Fauci, his hair was perfect.

MissMarple2

Andrew Cuomo

@NYGovCuomo


Wear a mask. It's the right thing to do.
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Janice Dean

@JaniceDean
·
14m


Your face is not the only thing you’re covering up.

Melinda

Nahncee presser at 10:45 EDT.

Narciso

Its like charlie browns teacher. She has another goody bag for her former lobbyist aides

MissMarple2

Melinda,

Why does Chad Pergram already have a bunch of info?

https://twitter.com/ChadPergram

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