Is Minnesota Burning?

In a break from my normal routine I turned on the television to get an update on whether America burned down last night.

On CNN, a panel was asked how hard we could blame Trump for last night's outrages.

On Fox, panelists wondered how hard we could blame various governors.

On CNBC, the anchors wondered whether we'd see another COVID spike (the demonstrations are outdoors w/ youngsters, so MAYBE not. Beside, who has time for testing right now?)

I wondered what happened last night and why stocks were up in the US and all over the world despite the best week for US anarchists in decades. I'm still wondering, although four cops shot/wounded in St Louis looks like the lede. And yes, its the Honey Badger Dow. Pandemics, riots, trade wars? Honey Badger Dow don't care.

FWIW, Fox News chatted with Byron Donalds, a Republican in the Florida House competing for a US seat (FL19) left open by the impending retirement of Republican Rooney. Impressive - here's your chance to give him $5. 

Now returning to my quiet contemplation with the TV off until its time for Jeopardy.

Comments

[MissMarple2]

Repeating from the end of the last thread, because I think it's an important point:

One of the comments about his walk to St. John's Church pointed something out I hadn't seen last night:

"He walked ahead of the rest, making himself a clear shot so that no one else would get hurt."

[Buckeye]

The messaging from Trump walking to the church was clear.

Any place I chose to fight, I’m gonna win.

[henry]

The Dow is pricing in the next Kung Flu trillions that McTurtle said was needed. Congress and Wall Street divorced from reality, as usual.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Porch - repeating the question....

Porch,

Could you describe that YouTube video you linked? It was pulled down.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I got a text last night from a lefty friend:

Are you all watching the protests? I had never really watched cnn before these past few days and I am blown away by how openly and frankly the news anchors speak about trump and the absurd joke he is. I had no idea

To which I responded, This is why they have no credibility. She ignored that.

[hoyden]

Blacklisting bluehornet looks to have shut down the rnc spam spigot.

[Buckeye]

Robin

The video was a collection of clips showing Antifa types getting their just desserts.

Several of protesters getting laid out by cops, and at least three clips of protesters challenging moving vehicles and getting run over.

[MissMarple2]

Andrew Cuomo
@NYGovCuomo
· 8h
There are justified peaceful protests across the state tonight.

But there are also people criminally exploiting this pain and this moment.

We will not tolerate it.
======================================
Janice Dean
@JaniceDean
·
1h
You are a disgrace.

==========================
Janice Dean continues her crusade against Cuomo. I am very proud of her!

[MissMarple2]

The FBI wants any information on those who are inciting violence or committing it.

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/seeking-information-on-individuals-inciting-violence-during-first-amendment-protected-peaceful-demonstrations

[henry]

Madison rioters still going, or starting early. Attacked NBC morning show live.

https://twitter.com/thetimreport/status/1267759391354257419?s=21

[henry]

Vid of dude attacking news crew this morning.

https://twitter.com/thetimreport/status/1267774955862843392?s=21

[Captain Hate]

The attacker looked like Brett Favre. Maybe he's back on the pills again.

[rse]

In 2020, planners and urbanists focused on equity are broadcasting a clear message to the wider profession right now that goes a step beyond connecting the racist present to its roots in the past. The message: Many of the planning innovations claimed by progressives as victories of social and environmental justice in recent years are perpetuating institutional racism.

Planning and urbanism have not achieved some apolitical or post-racial transcendence, despite good intentions. Overcoming institutional racism will require a thorough commitment to centering issues of equity in every planning discussion—from the public realm of streets and parks to the private realm of mixed-use development and housing. The slow streets and al fresco streets popping up all over the country, are subject to this critique, as explained in detail by the advocates featured in a bombshell feature by Alissa Walker, published by Curbed in May. For more sources on this subject, follow and boost the voices recommended by former Streetsblog USA editor Angie Schmitt.

Ensuring a new normal of social and racial equity will require a deep reckoning with the ways that planning innovations perpetuate systematic inequality, even among the most innovative and ostensibly progressive planning practices. It might be hard to hear, but advocates are underlining and insisting on this point, and no matter how difficult it is to confront, the field of planning is faced with an opportunity to enter a new era: one that centers racial, social, and environmental justice in every act.

https://www.planetizen.com/blogs/109465-violence-against-black-americans-moment-reckoning-planning-profession

[Jane]

Good Morning!

I’m sorry if I started something last night. Not my intention.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Governor Mills really,really doesn't want President Trump to come to Maine. She talked to the media in Augusta yesterday with a message to the President.
"I ask that you check your rhetoric at the door and abandon the divisive language that sows the seeds of distrust among our people."
During the video conference yesterday,she asked to see the proof of "professional" agitators. There were protests in Portland and Bangor yesterday.

[Gentlejim]

Bringing this over because I unwittingly got oaked, willowed, whatever.

I got behind here. Finally passed out after being up for 34 of 37 hours. Don’t feel like I slept at all. Need more covfefe.

Fentanyl is very powerful and is dosed in micrograms. If memory serves it is roughly 100 times more potent than morphine. Carfentayl was developed as and is used as elephant tranquilizer and much more powerful than fentanyl. Again, relying on a questionable memory, l believe a grain or two can be fatal. Scary, scary stuff. It was and probably still is being used as a cutting agent in heroin.

JimSV is correct. The “high” is short-lived.

Back to ketchup, which does not belong on hot dogs.

[Gentlejim]

I can just see it.

“Sarge, take a knee in front of the protestors.”
“Kiss my ass.” (Taking me and my people home)

[Old Lurker]

Henry, those Kung Flu trillions falling from the sky are the sickest, most corrosive aspects of this whole fiasco.

LUNACY

[Marlene]

Jane,did you have strong thunderstorms last night? A friend texted that there was a small tornado in Venice late yesterday afternoon.

[Old Lurker]

Jane, any change in the eye this morning?

[Jack Lillywhite]

Now, because of Jane’s 8:11 post I have to go back to the last thread and find what she started😁

[DrJ]

I love watching the sunrise. It is quiet, and then the birds come out. It is a glorious time of day.

[Melinda]

One hour until the HildaBeast Show. Prompts the question, what will be the excuse this time?

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Thanks Buckeye.

[MissMarple2]

My paranoia has made me develop a conspiracy theory, so lets try this out.

Unbeknownst to me, my county has gone to "voting centers." That means instead of 250 polling places there are only 25. And they have allowed anyone who wants to to vote by absentee/mail because of the WuFlu.

Normally, Indiana wouldn't do that, but I guess Marion County did the voting centers right after the mid-term elections.

Then the paper put out a bunch of fluff stories which I found while searching, all with quotes from women my age about how RELIEVED they were not to have to get to a polling place.

(Even my daughter says they don't really want us to vote.)

SO: First fake polls, then WuFlu, then tell people they can vote absentee by mail.

THEN, "disappear" a bunch of GOP votes in the primaries so when the totals come in in November is won't look suspicious.

[Melinda]

Don't forget the "extra vote counting time will be required"!

[MissMarple2]

If you misssed the President's speech, he has it pinned in a video to the top of his Twitter page. Unfortunately, I can't seem to copy it over here.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

[MissMarple2]

Melinda,

The absentee/mail votes have to be in by noon today, although the polls close at 6PM.

So, if the mail for you "voting center" comes in the afternoon and you didn't mail early enough, your vote won't count.

UNLESS you are a Democrat.

[Jane]

No thunderstorms or tornado's Marlene.

My eye sucks OL. Last night, I could see an aqua circle, in the middle of a gigantic white cloud with a gold (screwed up) line above it.

Hopefully it's fine.I see the doc at 1:00. Not sure she will be able to tell yet. She put a much heavier gas in this time, and said it will take 2 months to clear. I'm pretty damn sick of it.

[Extraneus]

Dow futures up 150, TM.

[Melinda]

PA Gov. Wolf tacked on another week for the voting to continue, so, don't rule it out just yet.

[Another Bob]

"He walked ahead of the rest, making himself a clear shot so that no one else would get hurt."

You know I like Trump and all MM, but that commenter is silly. Of course he was going for the symbolism, probably to specifically attack the “holed up in the bunker” nonsense. But Secret Service had that locked down adequately. Risk to the group that made the walk was well-managed.

[Narciso]

Thats why threw in the stalin quote on the overnight thread.

[Marlene]

Good Lord,the discussion on the local radio show is that the people traveling with President Trump on Friday are supposed to self quarantine for 14 days. The radio hosts played the audio of Trump/Mills exchange from yesterday. Mills asked in a bitchy tone of voice about "professional instigators." She wants to see the proof. Her tone was dripping with disrespect.

[Extraneus]

Clever Churchgoers Avoid Arrest By Disguising Themselves As Rioters

[Another Bob]

“find what she started”

Unknowingly touched on an event from some weeks ago that, at this point, is probably best alone.

[Melinda]

I know. It's all about who counts the votes. Ask me how this works here....

Add a code to a "Vote by Mail" envelope, and each election "judge" knows precisely which ones to throw out. Just like any mailed survey, it's coded to precisely to whom it was sent. Very common practice by PR firms.

[MissMarple2]

Well, Another Bob, you have a point, knowing how paranoid the SS is (even more than me!)

[hrtshpdbox]

...why stocks were up in the US

Going into Friday's close it was known and factored in that there would be unrest over the weekend; what wasn't known was how SpaceX would go. Not only was Tesla up more than 7% yesterday, but space launches always seem to spur enthusiasm from buyers, going way back. The market enthusiasts look at the world reopening and feel that, no matter how long it takes, a boon lies ahead without much likely to stop it.

[Melinda]

Daddy Warpig
@DaddyWarpig
When you've lost the SPLC…

Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer
Replying to @AriFleischer
“I have not seen any clear evidence that white supremacists or militiamen are masking up and going out to burn and loot,” said Howard Graves, a research analyst at the Southern Poverty Law Center who tracks white supremacist and other anti-government extremist groups.”

Show this thread

https://twitter.com/DaddyWarpig/status/1267803298762911746

[MissMarple2]

Extraneus, that headline and link at 8L58 actually made me laugh out loud, and I am talking a guffaw not a chuckle!

[Melinda]

hrt-

Short squeeze.

[DrJ]

Jane,

You have my sympathies and well wishes for your eye.

I had cataract surgery in my early 40s, and have had no end of trouble with them. An irony is that I work with micrometer-sized objects, and I cannot see them.

[MissMarple2]

That should read "at 8:58".

[Narciso]

Its like the spike is operating all the time, re that de'borgrave romana clef.

[hrtshpdbox]

Melinda, shorts are on the wrong side, they shouldn't let their rear ends hang out like that. If I hated the market, though, one thing I wouldn't try shorting is Tesla; crap company, crazy CEO, whatever the rationale - the stock eats shorts and spits out the bones.

[GUS]

https://nbc25news.com/news/coronavirus/governor-whitmer-orders-all-auto-insurers-in-michigan-to-issue-refunds

Too bad I don't use the "C" word. If we don't get a grip on this now, we are in extreme peril as a nation.

Look at the lovely Ms Shitmer, she looks deranged.

[cathyf]

Hey everybody, just wanted to point out that this is an excellent opportunity to write “antefa” in each and every written reference to the 21st-century brownshirts.

(Even Keyboard Kommandos can do our part...)

[Narciso]

I call them black bloc antifa just feeds their egos

https://www.foxla.com/news/95-of-the-400-individuals-arrested-in-santa-monica-traveled-to-the-city-police-say

[Jack Lillywhite]

I still say Whitmer is actually a runaway from The House of Wax Museum.

[Narciso]

I try to find the most credible authorities

https://lawofselfdefense.com/did-baden-autopsy-find-clinical-evidence-floyd-killed-by-asphyxia-no/

Not the loudest parrot

[Melinda]

hrt-

Well someone has to sell into his insanity, those free checks don't just fall out of the sky!

[GUS]

Brett Favre beat his addiction over 20 years ago.
I think I'll cut him some slack now.

[MissMarple2]

GUS,

Do they issue refunds when there are blizzards and people are stuck at home? If you broke your leg and couldn't drive for 2 months, would you get a refund?

This seems very arbitrary and DICTATORIAL to me.

And yes, she does look deranged, but I have thought so since I first saw her.

[Narciso]

Life model decoy, from agents of shield, tyrell corporation wouldnt willingly put out such a bad product.

[Melinda]

Today's "Hillary!" channel. (starts in 15, purportedly, if she shows...)

[Melinda]

Link! (I'm a dummy!):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhEfChS59vg

[GUS]

Here’s what happened in Santa Monica. I was at a very peaceful protest/march down Montana just 20 minutes ago that had zero issues. At some point, a separate crowd of scumbags formed and have decided to go hit the Promenade area and loot it.

Bill Melufin FOXLA. A teeeee veeeee affiliate of FOX, not FOX NEWS CHANNEL.

Read his one paragraph report. No denial there??
"JOURNO'S" as they call themselves, have no ability to think critically, their ideology out weighs their i.q..

[Melinda]

Or here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxBqov-vtas

[Jane]

Thanks Dr J,

I'm told I have cataracts in both eyes, so that surgery will come next if I ever recover from this one.

I need to laugh. Anyone got anything funny to say?

[Narciso]

Yikes jane.

[Melinda]

"Hillary didn't do it."

How's that , Jane?

(Hope you heal soon!)

[Narciso]

Its like another zaks snyder who expects it to turn out any better.

[Narciso]

Film, or another alex kurtzman star trek project.

Best wishes jane.

[Melinda]

Schlichter Trolling?

Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
She’s still pissed off about Wounded Knee

Elizabeth Warren @ewarren
The President of the United States tear-gassed peaceful protestors in order to clear the way for a useless photo-op outside the White House—just after vowing to activate the military against our own people.

Lives and our democracy are in danger.

https://twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1267807155089858560

[James D.]

GUS @ 9:06

How in the world does she have the authority to do that?

[cathyf]

Jane, what’s Irish and sits on the back porch?

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Paddy O’Furniture.

[Melinda]

He'll figure it out soon enough:

RBe
@RBPundit
Uh. How the fuck are looters rolling up in Bentleys?

That’s a $160000 automobile. For the BASE PACKAGE.

Keith Feldman @NBCproducer
Looters are literally pulling up in nice cars and cleaning out stores in #Soho. What #Curfew? #RIOT #LootingIsNotProtesting #GeorgeFloyd #NYCPROTEST #NYCRiots #NYPD @NBCNewYork

https://twitter.com/RBPundit/status/1267809512737701889

[cathyf]

Did they steal the Bentley first?

[Melinda]

Cathyf-

Pros in for merch.

[MissMarple2]

Heading out to drop off a bunch of stuff at Goodwill and then pick up groceries.

I don't have enough time to vote so will do that this afternoon.

The President has a bunch of endorsements on his Twitter page but nothing else except they had little trouble in DC last night and many arrests.

Back in about an hour.

[Narciso]

And there were 'peaceful protests' in st louis and las vegas, the somas on overtime.

[KevlarKid]

A somewhat thorough treatment of fentanyl:

https://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a605043.html

[Melinda]

Margot Cleveland
@ProfMJCleveland
If the press keeps this up, Trump's going to do daily briefings on Antifa, replete with video montages.

https://twitter.com/ProfMJCleveland/status/1267689459153321985

[Melinda]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Yesterday was a bad day for the Cuomo Brothers. New York was lost to the looters, thugs, Radical Left, and all others forms of Lowlife & Scum. The Governor refuses to accept my offer of a dominating National Guard. NYC was ripped to pieces. Likewise, Fredo’s ratings are down 50%!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1267811637811187712

[Trolling 101]

[DrJ]

Jane,

It is no funny, but I find I rely more one my hearing than my eyes. Perhaps it goes with being a former musician, and current audiophile. You may try it.

[GUS]

Can Shitmer make an insurance company pay for your new car if the old one is burnt to a crisp, because the POLICE WOULD NOT SHOW UP.
She's an idiot. Govt Lawyer, daughter of 2 Govg Lawyers. Not a lick of sense, nor honesty.

How's the boat Shitmer???

[Narciso]

I dont think we can take more of these 'peaceful protests' like nice berlin columbus

https://mobile.twitter.com/henryrodgersdc/status/1267663836120788992

[GUS]

She probably doesn't James D. So if you took your Ford Explorer out during the rampage, and ran over a family of 4, also fleeing the MAYHEM, does the insurance company pay to the limits of your policy, or only the "discounted" amount.

Does SHTIMER have any clue as to what the INSURANCE COMPANIES are facing right now??

[Melinda]

China buys U.S. soybeans after halt to U.S. purchases ordered: sources

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-china-agriculture-idUSKBN238264

[peter]

ICYMI:
Tom Maguire liked

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
He holds that Bible like it’s burning him.

h/t Dave in MA @ ~ 2 am

Really, esteemed blog host?

[Extraneus]

Powerful words from Tucker Carlson last night. He trashes Jared Kushner, btw.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/tucker-carlson-nation-flames-leaders-dithered

[Narciso]

Unwilling to state the plain truth

https://mobile.twitter.com/_Drew_McCoy_/status/1267648849029595137

[Neo]

Primary Day in Pennsylvania today ...

Who the heck is Roque De La Fuente ?
.. and why is he on my primary ballot for President ?

[KevlarKid]

Ensuring a new normal of social and racial equity will require a deep reckoning with the ways that planning innovations perpetuate systematic inequality, even among the most innovative and ostensibly progressive planning practices. It might be hard to hear, but advocates are underlining and insisting on this point, and no matter how difficult it is to confront, the field of planning is faced with an opportunity to enter a new era: one that centers racial, social, and environmental justice in every act.

from rse's quote @810a

",,,a deep reckoning with the ways that planning innovations perpetuate..."

IF these planning innovations perpetuate a problem(s), then does it MAKE ANY FUCKING SENSE AT ALL 👼 to refer to these as innovations?

AND- will this "deep reckoning" include a no-holds barred INVESTIGATION of the totalitarian roots and philosophical principles of the Gramscian "long march through institutions" circa 1950 thru 2020?

example of "Deep Reckoning with 'Planning Innovations'

Recommendation: this video is an elephant best eaten one bite at a time.

[sbwaters]

forget it, peter, he probably reads Associated Press articles by Darlene Superville for news:

"...Trump, who rarely attends church, then walked through the park and held up a Bible, posing for photos with an all-white group of advisors."

AP is asshoe.

[Narciso]

I call them blank pages, because it fits.

[James D.]

I can't disagree with anything in the Carlson article Ext linked.

[JimNorCal]

peter, 9:47, yeah I saw that.
I'm going with the people who say shut down the rioters.
Not the ones who think letting the rioters run free is a Good Thing.

MissM has provided the research of Trump's surprisingly deep religious background. I'm betting TM is ignorant and considers lifting a Bible to be a cheap stunt in order to disingenuously "play to the base". A stunt by a depraved ex-playboy with no legitimacy.

Still, ignorance is one thing. To have no "sense of danger" when you find yourself siding with AOC on an issue ... that shows your street smarts have atrophied.

[hoyden]

Not everyone can appreciate Trump’s holding the Bible. It’s a vampire and crucifix experience to them.

[KevlarKid]

Re "used the church as a prop".... over the years i've known many "priests" who did exactly that, small "p" padre.

[hrtshpdbox]

A stunt by a depraved ex-playboy with no legitimacy.

Instead it was a powerful and presidential moment that will soon and forevermore be viewed as a turning point with these riots. Although it's difficult to imagine that intelligent people (well, not AOC) can get it so wrong, I think of my local paper, which panned the Gettysburg address as "silly remarks", or the Chicago Times, which said of the address, "The cheek of every American must tingle with shame as he reads the silly flat dishwatery utterances of a man who has to be pointed out to intelligent foreigners as the President of the United States.”
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/my-great-great-grandfather-hated-the-gettysburg-address-150-years-later-hes-famous-for-it-180947746/

[Narciso]

Ah she came from minneapolis

https://cathedral.org/staff/budde-bishop-mariann/

[Narciso]

I dont think shes that familiar with the bible come to think about it

https://store.csspub.com/prod-0788026054.htm

[asw]

Not everyone can appreciate Trump’s holding the Bible. It’s a vampire and crucifix experience to them.

Posted by: hoyden | June 02, 2020 at 10:10 AM

I think it can be seen also as a Martin Luther moment.
"Here I stand. I can do no other. God help me."

[Narciso]

Miss budde reminds me of that yes prime minister bit about picking bishopd

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Not the loudest parrot

Posted by: Narciso | June 02, 2020 at 09:11 AM

Ha ha, I thought this link mentioned BIDEN autopsy and my first thought was, I knew it!

[Neo]

The group then smashed in the back door, police said. When they made it upstairs the owner started shooting and shot one man in the head.

That man died in the store, police said. The other men ran off. Police found a gun that the owner said does not belong to his shop at the scene, so they think someone brought that with them.

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/south-philly-gun-shop-owner-shoots-kills-looter-police-say/2416373/

[KevlarKid]

Rev. Jesse Jackson visited with Mayor Frey on Riot Day Deux in MNPLS.

Conveyed to Mayor Frey, and i quote, "Dr. King would have been proud of your response to the violence."

At which point Mayor Frey burst into tears and sobbed unabashedly in front of the delegation, the Hennepin county attorney, and AG Ellison.

Also on that day Rev. Jackson and his delegation declined an invitation to meet with
Senator Globuchar after considering her track record on issues related and her current positioning for the VP slot.

It was a 12 hour junket which included touring the part of the city where Mr. Floyd died in police custody.

My source is as impeccable as it is private.

More to come.

[Narciso]

I believe it, fork lady was right not to charge chauvin in 2008, probably the last time she had clarity.

Jesse jackson talk about jurassic park, doesmt he know deroy is the new thing?