Pick A Name

Former Secretary of Defense Gates comes out in favor of re-naming the Army bases currently named for a bunch of Confederate losers and traitors who, BTW and thank Heaven, lost.

His PR people probably could have coached him up a bit:

“The events since the killing of George Floyd present us with an opportunity where we can move forward to change those bases,” Mr. Gates said in an interview. “It’s always puzzled me that we don’t have a Fort George Washington or a Fort Ulysses S. Grant or a Fort Patton or a facility named for an African-American Medal of Honor recipient. 

Jiminy, don't offer three white guys and a player to be named later! Do the homework and pick a name or two. Black Medal of Honor winners are here. Don't spend too much time looking for a general - the highest ranking officers are Lt. Col. Rogers and Capt. Pitt of Vietnam. The Civil War provides many candidates and a number of Master Sergeants - Fort Fleetwood has a nice ring to it.

And Lt. Baker of WWII sounds like Audie Murphy on steroids:

For extraordinary heroism in action on 5 and 6 April 1945, near Viareggio, Italy. Then Second Lieutenant Baker demonstrated outstanding courage and leadership in destroying enemy installations, personnel and equipment during his company's attack against a strongly entrenched enemy in mountainous terrain. When his company was stopped by the concentration of fire from several machine gun emplacements, he crawled to one position and destroyed it, killing three Germans. Continuing forward, he attacked an enemy observation post and killed two occupants. With the aid of one of his men, Lieutenant Baker attacked two more machine gun nests, killing or wounding the four enemy soldiers occupying these positions. He then covered the evacuation of the wounded personnel of his company by occupying an exposed position and drawing the enemy's fire. On the following night Lieutenant Baker voluntarily led a battalion advance through enemy mine fields and heavy fire toward the division objective. Second Lieutenant Baker's fighting spirit and daring leadership were an inspiration to his men and exemplify the highest traditions of the Armed Forces.

Gates did wonder why there is no Fort Patton. Fort Hood is up for grabs and was home to the 20th Armored after WWII; the 20th was also in Patton's 3rd Army that swept across France. Fort Patton or Fort Hood? Come on, ask me a hard one!

As to what or whether this will happen, who knows? There is an opportunity here for a national feel-good moment while we argue about the many black heroes on offer and debate who is most exemplary. Fort Tubman, for her work on the Underground Railroad? Tell me more!

The re-naming idea found bipartisan support on the Senate Armed Services Committee and Gates (as well as Gen. Petraeus (ret.) ought to have some sway here. But Trump does not gravitate towards "feel-good" when there is a chance for a shouting, divisive brawl. I suspect this will be an opportunity lost.

Sorry, folks - no Fort Patton. President Biden will assuredly not be naming any bases after white guys (General George Washington, slave-owner? Har de 'effin har.) When Fort Hood is finally renamed, well, we'll see.

But speaking of Biden (you remember him? The guy who used to be Obama's Vice-President?) let's remind ourselves of Gates great quote:

Having served eight presidents, including as C.I.A. director under President George Bush, Mr. Gates has been called one of the most admired public servants in modern times by Democrats and Republicans.

...

As for the fall election, Mr. Gates would not say whom he supported. In a previous book, he wrote that while he respected former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. as “a man of integrity,” he was “wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

Gates is not doubling down on that but he is not backing down either:

On Sunday, Mr. Gates stood by that assessment. “The one place I would take it back — during the Obama administration, we agreed more than we disagreed,” he said, citing their mutual opposition to intervening in Libya or pushing for the resignation of Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak.

In a separate interview Sunday on “Meet the Press” on NBC, he went a bit further. He noted his policy disagreements with Mr. Biden, then added, “But I think one of the things that people will be weighing this fall is probably the character of the two contestants.”

Probably.

Comments

[Dave (in MA)]

4 years ago, noticing Rodham's unresponsive carcass being hefted into her hearse by her hired muscle was a "conspiracy". This year, Trump trying not to slip going down a slick ramp raises health concerns.

[Marlene]

First? Good afternoon from the woods of Maine! Gov.Mills has deigned to opened the restaurants in southern Maine. What will be the cost of renaming all these bases? Oh,never mind.

[Dave (in MA)]

Why don't we start by renaming every last damn piece of Robert Byrd crap and then we can get talking.

[MissMarple2]

Diamond and Silk®
@DiamondandSilk
·
5h
BREAKING: AG Barr Says Justice Dept. Has Evidence 'Foreign Actors' Assisting Left-Wing Rioters.

[Marlene]

Dave!

[lyle]

Having served eight presidents, including as C.I.A. director under President George Bush, Mr. Gates has been called one of the most admired public servants in modern times by Democrats and Republicans.

Oooh, both Ds AND Rs love the guy! He must be a super great guy!

/sarc

[Comanche Voter]

Looking at that list of Black Medal of Honor winners Calvin Rogers as a light colonel when he won the MOH---but he retired as a Major General.

Of course he won the MOH while commanding an artillery unit in the invasion of Cambodia--so maybe the woke will say he doesn't qualify.

[Threadkiller]

But Trump does not gravitate towards "feel-good" when there is a chance for a shouting, divisive brawl.

Trump didn’t land on a shouting, divisive brawl.. A shouting, divisive brawl landed on him...

[James D.]

From a link Jane posted at the end of the last thread about Biden:

Once I sat down, Biden got up and started to yell at me. He bellowed “you are going to lose this issue. You are going to lose this issue because the Balanced Budget Constitutional Amendment sounds good and the American people are stupid and will support anything that sounds good.”

Given what we’ve seen the past three months, and what between 40 and 50% of the electorate apparently is OK with, it’s hard to see where that statement is wrong.

[MissMarple2]

Don Surber posted this:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1272594795244990468.html

Here's the original post with thread link:

Don Purser
@DGPurser
You aren't seeing this on the news, maybe locally, and that's about it.

We hear much more about "protests" then we do looting, rioting, vandalism, violence, and the rest.

DEMAND better from your elected officials and police departments.
==============================================
This is all Democrat organized violence!

Original thread with videos and replies;

https://twitter.com/STUinSD/status/1272594795244990468

[Marlene]

How soon will the Jefferson Davis capture location in Irwin County,GA be demolished? There is sign on I-75 in GA that directs visitors to the site. Fun fact: the WPA built the site in 1939. WPA=FDR

[James D.]

“It’s always puzzled me that we don’t have a Fort George Washington

Could it be because, seeing as how we’ve got our capital city, and a state, and a 600 foot tall monument already named after him, it’s not really necessary?

[James D.]

Why don't we start by renaming every last damn piece of Robert Byrd crap and then we can get talking.

JFK too.

[Old Lurker]

James "Given what we’ve seen the past three months, and what between 40 and 50% of the electorate apparently is OK with, it’s hard to see where that statement is wrong."

I think the lesson from the last three months is we are now past having to worry about having the support of "a lot" of Americans before the government sets off down any path they want on their own.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The Far Left Fake News Media, which had no Covid problem with the Rioters & Looters destroying Democrat run cities, is trying to Covid Shame us on our big Rallies. Won’t work!

10:02 AM · Jun 15, 2020

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
5h
Our testing is so much bigger and more advanced than any other country (we have done a great job on this!) that it shows more cases. Without testing, or weak testing, we would be showing almost no cases. Testing is a double edged sword - Makes us look bad, but good to have!!!

[henry]

The woke will insist on LGBTQ “heroes”. So Ft Rue Paul type stuff.

[Pinandpuller]

So now that the Reprobate Mind has been spit and polished by the Supreme Court how much longer is it going to be optional?

[MissMarple2]

NYC Scanner
@NYScanner
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32m
BREAKING: The entire #NYPD anti-crime unit (plainclothes officers) is being eliminated.

[Jim Eagle]

Only the POTUS or other head's of State qualify for a 21 gun salute. VPOTUS only gets 19.

[Pinandpuller]

John Roberts has really been on the rounded end of the unnaturally inserted foreign object for the Culture War.

[lyle]

Welp, all this peaceful protest rioting in these cities makes it dang easy to say that I’ll never set foot in any of them again. Ever.

https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/06/a-bonus-highlights-of-news.html

ITEM 2: The Washington Examiner reported, "House Majority Whip James Clyburn said he lives in more fear of police now than during racial segregation in the South."

Clyburn told CNN, "I didn't grow up in fear of police, even in a segregated environment. We never feared the police. All of a sudden, now I do fear the police. The young blacks fear the police."

The Noble Lie, yes?

[Ralph L]

it makes me uncomfortable every time I drive in and out of the neighborhood.

I know it's silly, but there was a bakery near my brother's called The Ovens of France that gave me the creeps when I passed it. It folded, so maybe I wasn't the only one.

[Ralph L]

oops

[Ralph L]

stop

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Former Secretary of Defense Gates comes out in favor of re-naming the Army bases currently named for a bunch of Confederate losers and traitors who, BTW and thank Heaven, lost.--

Is it really beyond the grasp of someone as intelligent as TM to understand that these monuments and place names were placed there and maintained primarily to avoid humiliating and crushing a defeated South and to healing and reconciling the country after so great a rupture?

Is it also not apparent that those tributes to reunification and forgiveness are being targeted by people preaching divisiveness, unforgiveness and hate?

The Big Lie is never about duping anyone. It's about social pressure to cause conformity and compliance rather than independent thought by people who know in their heart the Big Lie is just that.

[Tom R]

https://twitter.com/obamamalik/status/1272621685859127297?s=21

Photoshop?

[jimmyk]

Today's my lucky day: I got signed out of Typhuspad on the first page of a new thread.

Meanwhile, Alito is not happy with six of his colleagues. And of course he is completely right. Disappointed in Gorsuch, not surprised by Roberts.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/06/15/alito-courts-preposterous-trans-ruling-threatens-religion-speech-privacy-and-safety-n532217

[Marlene]

JamesD @4:11...many years ago,when the daughter had been in D.C. a few years,during one of our visits,her aunt and uncle and two young cousins drove from Pittsburgh to meet us there. Our nephew was probably eight years old and decided he was tired and bored. He asked us,"why is everything in this town named after Washington?"

[Ralph L]

It just occurred to me that all the broken glass and looting might resuscitate some shopping malls. If the shoppers aren't concerned about the violence, the shopkeepers might be.

[cathyf]

You know, there’s a reason why America stole all those Confederate heroes after the war. The Civil War had two sides: the side that lost fought for the idea that their 11 states made up a separate country, while the side that won fought for the idea that the people they were fighting were their own fellow countrymen. The flag that led Union troops into battle had 33, 34 & 35 stars. (34 was Kansas, 35 was West Virginia).

After the war, the people on the ground who put the country back together were the American veterans who erected monuments to their American heroes. They were opposed by Democrats, who all along agreed that the Confederacy was a different country.

150 years later, when all of those 150-year anniversaries flowed by over that 5-year span, it was very quiet and those anniversaries went uncelebrated and unremembered. Because there was a Democrat in the White House, and Democrats have never believed that the Union cause was right.

Now, 155 years after we all thought that the Democrats had finally lost the argument about whether the southern states were “us” or “them”, the Democrats have sent rioters into the streets to repudiate our victory at Appomattox.

[Pinandpuller]

The Main Slime Media did more to investigate ‘John Barron’ than they have the ‘John Roberts’ on Epstein’s flight manifest.

[Jim Eagle]

Most AF Bases are named after Air Force Officers who demonstrated heroism or first of a kind air service. Some are named after their location like Plattsburgh AFB. But thank God we didn't have a Confederate air force in the Civil War except for the occassoinal hot air balloon.

[D]

The beginning tone of this thread hit me the wrong way.
My husband is a Civil War buff and we have seen many of the battlefields in the South.
Renaming these forts to me insults our history.
The same with the statues.
If you want to rename or take down statues there needs to be a vote by the people of that particular state and then they should be placed in a museum if the people of the state vote that way.
This is vandalism tearing them down like the Taliban did.
Disgraceful and lawless.
Again the inmates have taken over the asylum.
President Trump is blunt and pulls no punches.
I happen to like blunt people because you know where you stand with them.
Also I no longer want to see any relatives of these criminals whining on tv after these hoods resisted arrest.
Go after police you take your chances.
You just might end up in a bad situation that had you complied you wouldn’t find yourself in.

[Marlene]

Exactly,cathyf! When Obama didn't visit any Civil War battlefields during the 150th anniversary,I finally got a clue and thought WTH is with this guy?! Think of all the battlefields in the backyard of Washington,DC that he could have visited.

[D]

Cathyf:
Excellent post.
We have taught our son all about the history of the Revolutionary War and the Civil War.
I detest this attempt to destroy our history because to them trying to appease people and pander for votes is more important than respecting our America and our flag.

[Marlene]

Not that I didn't already have a clue about Obama. :)

[Old Lurker]

Maryrose "to destroy our history because to them trying to appease people and pander for votes is more important than respecting our America..."

They are destroying our history, but not "to appease people and pander for votes".

First you must erase the slate before you can write new stuff on it. Think of it like reformatting a disk.

[Sammy Small]

While Pelosi galore is considering renaming military bases, I can think of one that should fit right in for democrats. Kunsan airbase in Korea, better known as The Kun (pronounced koon) in Air Force circles. Their unofficial motto: There's no slack at The Kun.

[Jim Eagle]

The Civil War is a mandate to any young person to learn about and study for their own sense of history. Once, you decide the Civil War is not history then it truly is Fukiyama's "The End of History".

[Jim Eagle]

Hey, Sammy. The Kun is every airman's hell hole out side of Goose Bay. Is it still operational?

[JimNorCal]

From last thread, this seems like a worthwhile insight to me.

"I've decided it is not about a Civil War...that implies conflict about lofty ideals and ideas worth fighting for and dying.

We are engaged in Ethnic Cleansing. The cleaners will not be satisfied until we are all gone."

[Fred Gregory]

So Maguire what are your thoughts on Warren's amendment that would require the destruction of the Confederate Memorial in Arlington Cemetery ??

[lyle]

https://www.bizpacreview.com/2020/06/15/pelosi-presenting-special-us-flag-to-floyd-family-sparks-outrage-an-insult-to-our-service-members-934651

[clarice]

Looks like DeBlasio has caught the virus. God has his ways.

[JimNorCal]

"Is it really beyond the grasp of someone as intelligent as TM to understand that these monuments and place names were placed there and maintained primarily to avoid humiliating and crushing a defeated South and to healing and reconciling the country after so great a rupture?"

MissM posted a good (brief: 18 min) interview with VDH by Sebastian Gorka. VDH mentioned a couple of things:
1) Petraeus (for example) could have pushed for base renaming any time during his tenure but waited till now.
2) These sequential statements by military and ex-mil leaders are clearly meant to undermine Trump. They are not thoughtful suggestions.

Let's be clear. Every possible weapon is being brought to bear on Trump's re-election. If only the idiot Dem primary voters hadn't selected a senile racist ancient white man they'd have a better chance LOL.

[Ralph L]

Not the kind of ventilation he needs.

[JimNorCal]

"Not the kind of ventilation he needs"

Nice!!

[clarice]

I'm told ticket requests for the 1st Trump rally are now almost at 1 million. The last Biden online (convention address) drew I believe 68 people. Most people think the president's "bombast" is warranted and expresses what they think.

His enemies have turned him into the hero of "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington". In the process the people who consider themselves the elites, have exposed themselves as bitter, intransigent idiots.When he wins again, they'll be like the eunuchs departing the Chinese palace in "The Last emperor", rattling their now desiccated man parts in fancy containers.

[Jane]

Jim,

It's about class.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

So is national kneel-or-be-upersoned day, AKA, St George Floyd Day going to be on his birthday or date of death?
One of each?

[Captain Hate]

First you must erase the slate before you can write new stuff on it. Think of it like reformatting a disk.

Excellent analogy. Like John Roberts thinks the Constitution is on an etch-a-sketch that he can shake up from time to time and remove those troubling "rights".

[Captain Hate]

Just in time for the FDA numbnuts

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387770

[D]

I also don’t know anyone who has the virus or had it.

[MissMarple2]

WARNING!!

Chuck Callesto
@ChuckCallesto

· 54m
BREAKING NOW: Widespread Service Outages; Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint and AT&T All Down In Parts of US..
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Larry Schweikart
@LarrySchweikart

7m
I actually received a warning about this a week ago, but didn't want to panic anyone. But someone told me this was incoming.

[John S]

Well said, Clarice!! An image that will be with me for a long time.

BTW, I do know someone who got the virus. A friend of my wife's, in her forties, who was sick for about 4 weeks, on and off, but never went to the hospital. It was a mystery where she go it.

[Extraneus]

I suspect this will be an opportunity lost.

An opportunity to do what? Appease a mob?

Is TM really offended by military base names?

During the Chinese cultural revolution, the Red Guards specifically set out to destroy the "Four Olds" (old ideas, old cultures, old customs, and old habits) in order to remake society, and in the process killed tens of millions of people.

Are we really going to fall for this?

https://allthatsinteresting.com/cultural-revolution

[sbwaters]

Ethnic Cleansing

Nope. The cleansing is to remove the embarrassing record of Democrats across history.

Pathetic unworkable goals. Flawed principles. Lying. Misuse of law. Perverted concepts of justice. And, yes, hatred.

What is there to like?

[Another Bob]

“I actually received a warning about this a week ago”

OK MM, spill the story...

[Jim Eagle]

Clarice,

I would love to see the NeverTRump Eunuchs waving their man parts in fancy containers. No doubt empty bottles of Cakebread Cellars.

/wine snob diss in there

[Captain Hate]

Rick Wilson as a dejected eunuch works for me...

[Threadkiller]

Larry Schweikart is claiming inside info after the fact, AB, not MM.

[Another Bob]

@RealMiniAOC

I just beat my family in a game of Monopoly. I was supposed to go directly to jail without passing Go but I resisted arrest, sued them for excessive force & won the game. There were riots on Boardwalk & Park Place. Marvin Gardens is occupied & is now a new board game called MGAZ.

https://twitter.com/realminiaoc/status/1272591711412183041

[D]

Jimmyk:
The list of consequences Alito states in his dissent are frightfully real.
It is just like Roe v Wade and Obergefell.

[Another Bob]

Thx TK. I did misread.

[Jim Eagle]

For the first time ever, the Army v. Navy game will be played in Navy/Marine Corp stadium in Annapolis. Think Navy Tough?

Wait until you read all the precautions and measures for attendance. No way, this year. ABC for me and Frederick.

I don't even OSU or Wisconsin would be this over the top worried.

[GUS]

Today as I pulled into my subdivision....GUS ACRES, I felt the same pang that I always feel. It's just not right. We need to give ACRES to all of the victims. And a mule. But like every other day, I arrived home, after a "slavish" day at work, and I reached for the ASPIRIN BOTTLE. The site of the COTTON made me recoil in horror. I wonder who picked it?? Maybe George Floyd, maybe a child.
So I went for Scotch instead.

[Jim Eagle]

GUS,

I thought you lived on a Plantation?

[MissMarple2]

Another Bob;I didn't receive the warning; @Larry Schweikart did

No details yet. The thread has mostly people who have had no problems. Most of the people say they also have had no problems with riots. A few postulate that the Democrats are planning to disrupt registration for rallies.

When I find out more information, I will post it.

[Extraneus]

Minneapolis police officers begin resigning. Buffalo SWAT guys already resigned from SWAT duty. NYPD and others surely next. 70s and 80s history is about to repeat itself. Blue hells hardest hit.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/06/least-7-minneapolis-police-officers-resign-7-process-resigning/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8423927/NYPD-Commissioner-announces-plain-clothes-anti-crime-unit-eliminated.html

[Another Bob]

Per Schweikert, anarchist hackers are DDOSing the mobile networks.

My phone’s working fine.

[Jim Eagle]

Hey, Boston 1919. Big time police strike. Nothing like one or 7 guys going on retirement.

But it could get that way quickly especially in blue cities.

[Barbara]

Do you really think that naming all of these bases after black medal of honor winners will solve anything? How naive.

Let's just strip away the heroes who founded our nation and preserved it over and over again. There are plenty of them. Let's forget the trauma of Reconstruction and the purpose of the names of military installations and ships, and shred the land again. Bases are named for historical purposes. Ripping up old territory never advanced a cause, but I can tell you losing a place and a name that was dear to you can tear out your heart.

We are dealing with ONE murder that hasn't even gone to a preliminary hearing AFAIK, and woke people want to rip up the country yet again. Unfucking believable.

I will now go back to my sane space to read about and contemplate more meaningful things.

[clarice]

Everybody knows history began yesterday.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
58m
“We have greater confidence in our call for a V-shaped recovery, given recent upside surprises in growth data and policy action.” Chetan Ahya, Chief Economist at Morgan Stanley

[Ralph L]

Boston 1919. Big time police strike.

Made Gov. Coolidge a national figure, then VP & P.

[lyle]

/wine snob diss in there

Oooh, snap! 😎

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1h
“Trump team should get 'a lot of credit' for fast coronavirus stimulus: CBO”

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/9/cbo-trump-team-should-get-lot-credit-fast-coronavi/

[DrJ]

We are going through our annual health insurance certification. You need at least two employees to qualify.

We had a simple question. At the moment the company is closed because of COVID-19. What number do we use?

Let's say the answer was opaque.

[jimmyk]

This sounds like a new edition of 4D, from a commenter at New Neo:

Rumors are flying in the conservative legal blogosphere that Chief Justice Roberts joined the majority so that he could assign Gorsuch the opportunity to write the opinion. Otherwise, it would have been a 5-4 opinion written by Ginsberg.

Why does that matter? Well, it appears that Gorsuch took pains in the majority opinion to ensure that this wouldn’t affect religious organizations. It’s unlikely that Ginsberg would have shown that kind of deference.

If true, it's a bad sign that Gorsuch is so far off base on this, and unfortunate that his senior colleagues on the right couldn't take him to the woodshed to knock some sense into him.

[MissMarple2]

Bret Baier
@BretBaier
·
9m
Reuters: A new forecast projects 201,129 deaths due to COVID-19 in the United States through the beginning of October mainly due to reopening measures under way, the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) at the
University of Washington said on Monday.
======================================
How many of those were from New York and New Jersey?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

We are dealing with ONE murder death that hasn't even gone to a preliminary hearing AFAIK, and woke people want to rip up the country yet again.

Hope you don't mind the alteration Barbara.

[Old Lurker]

Just like 4D, SCOTUS version.

Sometimes what you see with your own eyes is what you got.

[MissMarple2]

monique desjardin
@MDesjardin
·
1m
Boiled down to it's lowest common denominator, hate for western man and western gov't (predominantly white/Christian historically) is a war against God. God's word stands in stark opposition to everything the left champions. The left is a human manifestation of the fallen angel.

[MissMarple2]

Catturd ™
@catturd2
·
1m
Democrats are pushing defunding the police, lawlessness, while not letting law-abiding citizens open their businesses or work.

The backlash in the November election is going to be historic.

Mark my words. Everyone I know is pissed.

It’s going to be a Republican wipeout.

[MissMarple2]

Mark Knoller
@markknoller
·
1m
Officials say Pres Trump will meet tomorrow with police representatives and with families who have lost a loved one to police action. An official says the president's objective is to turn the anger in the country into action and bring some unification and healing.

[MissMarple2]

Threadkiller,

Tou might find this of interest. Video at the link.

Michael confirmed this pic.twitter.com/wFmuDll4EL

— Mini Mike is Voting Trump2020 (@DudeWithATude1) June 15, 2020

[Melinda]

Watch this before it gets pulled:

Ruthann
@TeaBoots
Uh WOW ...She’s not voting for Joe Biden

This gal knows the history of the Democratic Party ..bye bye Democrats pic.twitter.com/rhDFgMaIwp

https://twitter.com/TeaBoots/status/1272637406005596160

[Old Lurker]

MM "How many of those were from New York and New Jersey?"

"were" implies facts already on the books. This is simply another projection designed, again, to change the behaviors of a targeted group.

Quoting IMHE (they, half of the 2,000,000!!!!) proves James' (???) observation that not only are "experts" not punished for being wrong in the past, the Left goes back to them again and again.

And of course, why not? From the Left's POV, it worked the last time. (Sort of an updated Harry Reid: "he didn't get elected, did he?)

[Another Bob]

“It’s going to be a Republican wipeout.”

If it’s that cut-and-dried, why do you suppose the dems are doing it?

I don’t believe they’re that stupid, do you?

[MissMarple2]

Chuck Callesto
@ChuckCallesto

· 2h
BREAKING NOW: Widespread Service Outages; Verizon, T-Mobile, Sprint and AT&T All Down In Parts of US..
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Thread with reports and replies:

https://twitter.com/ChuckCallesto/status/1272630148362383360

[lyle]

I don’t believe they’re that stupid, do you?

Well, yes, but I think they’ve set up—intentionality or not—the famous Hobson’s Choice: take Biden or nothing.

[Pinandpuller]

So now that Karl Rove is working for Trump what does he announce first:
a war with Syria or amnesty for 40 million illegals?

[Melinda]

No, Lyle, you forgot what's behind curtain #2.

[lyle]

Hilligula?

[Melinda]

Daniel Greenfield "The Second Civil War"

https://youtu.be/8pNImbXnIn4

[lyle]

Tank?

[lyle]

SMOD?!?!?!?

[Rocco]

I'm in favor of renaming Camp Beauregard to Camp Fitty Cent.

[Extraneus]

take Biden or nothing.

Joe isn't going to make it. He'll have to be replaced, and Cuomo may not want to take it, figuring he'll be more viable in 2024. I'm thinking the Hillary idea might not be as far fetched as it sounded when it was first mentioned.

If it was going to be Biden, and he still had a functioning survival instinct, he'd have already picked the VP, which would have made him much more difficult to Arkancide. (Would his replacement get to fire his VP choice and make a new choice? What if his replacement isn't higher on the social justice hierarchy than his choice? What if his choice is a "black" half-Jamaican, half-Indian woman?)