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June 12, 2020

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cathyf

First?

Narciso


Second

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/06/11/the-complex-funding-and-ideology-of-black-lives-matter/

Dave (in MA)

Maybe they can hire Dan Rather as a Microsoft Word expert.

Captain Hate

The RNC isn't particularly smart. Being the junior partner in the Uniparty tends to do that.

Captain Hate

Any crop reports from the CHAZ yet?

Narciso

The geico cavemen said seriously.

Threadkiller

The Obama Judge is being a supreme dick in this hearing.

Narciso


Evergreen

https://mobile.twitter.com/CurtisHouck/status/1271267559569047552

hrtshpdbox

TM probably particularly admires Atwater's deathbed mea culpa, just guessing.


https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/1485275-my-illness-helped-me-to-see-that-what-was-missing

hrtshpdbox

TK, tsk, there are no Obama judges!

Captain Hate

Getting rid of John Roberts has to be the highest priority.

sbwaters

Henry, I'm coming more and more to think that you hold the money card — Hilligula, but as stand-in Presidential candidate.

If the dance gets to the Democratic Convention, it would be best if the bait and switch could be completed — considering how hamstrung the conditions have become — before a VP candidate is named.

So on the way to accept the nomination, suppose Joe tests positive for COVID-19. What's a Party to do but fall back and draft the last, best(?), candidate.

By acclamation, let the Manchurian Candidate step forward.

Narciso

I went to school with the son of the 'witness' to bishop, box he was kind of a jerk, although his dad going for a stretch on a drug charge probably didnt help things

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8403347/Chicago-Mayor-Lori-Lightfoot-says-rioters-f-ing-lawless-meeting-panicked-officials.html

Davod

Re. Statues, I read that there were people surrounding the statue of Churchill and the police removed them so the protestors could do their work.

Threadkiller

The HW Bush Judge isn’t much help either. She says “I don’t see why you can’t wait until the July hearing and see what happens.”

henry

sbw, yes. Too obvious. And Barr / Durham are stalling past Nov 3.

Captain Hate

The meeting was in person. I was surprised that there were not one but two executives there: the VP of Legal AND the VP of "inclusion and diversity." My division HR rep was there and my director.

Director says "So you don't want to take the required sensitivity training." I say "I don't think it would be a valuable use of my time, since we have a lot of work to do with this shutdown and all." Then the VP of inclusion pipes in: "We are all very busy but it's important that we all go through this training so we know how to interact with each other in an inclusive and accepting way."

Yeah, that's pretty much verbatim.

So I'm getting a bit miffed but I'm holding it back. And at this point I have to give a big shout out to Alexthechick, because I listened to the 21 May podcast last night and part of it put me in the right frame of mind. I did get a little ranty but this is the flavor of it.

I looked Legal right in the eye and said "In my fifteen years with this organization, have there ever been any complaints or accusations about my not acting in an 'inclusive and accepting way?'" She said "no, no complaints at all." I said "Requiring me to go through training is the company saying that I have a problem in this area."

VP of inclusion is looking a little shell shocked right now. Someone is questioning the validity of sensitivity training. Unlikely this has happened to her before.

I go on. "The training is undoubtedly aimed toward, frankly, getting me to be less racist. That's the thing we're all dancing around here. Well I have never had any kind of issue in that area, and in fact I find it extremely insulting to even SUGGEST I need any kind of training to treat people fairly and on their work product instead of their skin suits."

VP of inclusion says "well, this isn't about you, it's about making sure we all have a common understanding of racial and cultural issues that have recently been brought to light with the recent events."

So I can't help myself. I say "Does that mean you think we are a racist company?"

She looks at me. I look back. Serious pregnant pause. She then says "I think there is some work we should do in that area."

And I can't help myself, I say "I agree. For instance, in this very room. We have the two executives here who are African American women (the VP of inclusion and VP of Legal), an Asian woman (HR), and the director of the division (Hispanic man). On the entire executive team there is only one white man, and he is retiring at the end of the year. Further, looking at the hires and promotions over the past six months it appears white men are very underrepresented." Then I really channel Alexthechick and I quote her: "You need to tell me if this training is a condition of my employment. But before you answer, consider that our CEO has a growth strategy that relies on revenue. My work portfolio accounts for 27% of total company revenue and is our single largest portfolio. I've never had a complaint about the way I treat people in my section. But if this is a condition of my employment then I'm sure my talents would be appreciated elsewhere."
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 12, 2020 09:38 AM (TB7HE)

Narciso

There are 50 aldermen in chicago, or does that include the outer districts

henry

TK, 4 years isn’t enough. Acela bubble at work

hrtshpdbox

Narciso, sorry I should have made clear, a different Maurice Bishop, probably not an actual person but just a CIA alias.

https://jfkfacts.org/who-was-maurice-bishop/

Threadkiller

The Trump Judge hammers Powell with the “Young case” and wonders if Sullivan can still go after Flynn on the contempt charge only. Powell sounds like she has no idea what the “Young case” is about. The judge reinforces her position by noting that Powell writ doesn’t ask for the specific relief to the contempt charge in terms of Young. Powell doesn’t deny that her brief may have skipped something crucial.

Davod

Jack. Re water fountains. My family migrated from the UK to Australia in 1968 by ship. The ship stopped in Capetown for a day, and we spent the day sightseeing. Walking through a park we stopped at a restroom. Faced with three doors labeled Blacks, Coloreds, and Whites, the two policemen guarding the restroom smiled at our confusion. My brothers and I were pretty tanned after a few weeks on the ship, and we wondered which door to use.

Melinda

You will NOT see a single linked tweet in any browser, unless you are signed into Twitter in that browser, during that session. It's a new setting, that you can not turn off, from Twitter that tracks every single tweet you "open" and do not "Like", "Reply", or "ReTweet".

That's why with Narc's single link posts, with no c n p of its contents, will open with the "Something Went Wrong" page.

Threadkiller

The Obama judge is picking up the baton from the Trump judge and notes that Powell left out a crucial component in her brief and only asked for mandamus regarding dismissal and the amicus, but made no mention of the contempt process.

Narciso

Yes dave phillips, now he wasnt the handler for alpha or dre, the 'witness' worked for army intel among other parties.

Captain Hate

Tracy Beanz @tracybeanz
The POINT of this hearing is for what we are hearing right now. Don't take their questions as an assault on General Flynn. They still question the government and then Sullivan. Don't over react

Melinda

CH-

That's an awesome takedown of the Inhumane Resources racket.

Captain Hate

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Hello!

Omri Ceren
@omriceren
Yikes. The fired State Dept IG was the subject of a full-blown investigation into a campaign of politicized targeting & leaking trying to take down the Trump admin's top official for imposing pressure on Iran.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at June 12, 2020 09:56 AM (HyRbI)

==========

The president seems to know things.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 12, 2020 09:59 AM (LvTSG)

Threadkiller

Thank, TBeanzzzz.

The play by play is still the play by play.

The lawyer for the DoJ is pounding the judges.

hrtshpdbox

Ah, OK, got it Narciso. What do you think of the Miami militia angle re: JFK?

Captain Hate

Mel,

It's one of the better stories I've heard of not knuckling under.

Jane

Davod,

Where in Oz did you end up?

Jane

Boy these lawyers are impressive. This is the stuff Clarice did, I believe.

hrtshpdbox

I've decided this whole New Madness can be laid squarely at the clogs of Greata Thunberg. She is like a bizarre incident from a satire about the end of civilization; that people would take her seriously is just a lamentable comment about people. Greata broke the seal, no more reason or common sense required anymore.

Threadkiller

Don't over react

IIRC T Beanzzzzz was a Mueller fan and we weren’t supposed to overreact because 4D.

This is a stupid straw man from a nobody. Maybe she wrote that tripe to a different audience that prides itself on being uninformed.

Either way, it torqued me enough to stop live blogging the hearing.

hrtshpdbox

CH, at least you don't hear much from Kagan or Sotomayer; with Roberts (who might as well be "an Obama judge" himself) you know any time he's bothered enough to make a statement, it will be disappointing.

clarice

I'm having trouble hearing all of this--It may be my hearing deficiency but I think the sound system could be better.

Melinda

"Not Knuckling Under"?

I'd say that's more a case of "Cash, or Credit? Do you really want credit for losing the source of your daily cash?".

Another Bob

sbwaters | June 12, 2020 at 09:44 AM

On Hillary the nominee, I was convinced of that many months ago and said so. Manipulating the process and airdropping in to collect the spoils is the only method Hillary knows.

It’s the reason Biden hasn’t been thrown over the side yet. You think the dems would let that walking disaster live this long without a plan in place to replace him? No, the dems aren’t worried.

Captain Hate

I didn't copy it to shut you up, TK

So in a nutshell, I am still employed, I have a free day off, and I'm not going to stupid sensitivity training.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 12, 2020 09:43 AM

clarice

https://reason.com/2020/06/12/the-revolution-is-eating-its-own/

Threadkiller

I know that, CH.

The fact that such a fickle clown is on our side makes me lose hope.

Threadkiller

It will be an interesting transcript. The Obama Judge made a white cop black defendant analogy.

Narciso

Bob baers research suggests oswald acted alone, but may not have been acting independently.

sbwaters

Scanning quickly I mistook "fickle clown" for "trickle down" — as in "Socialism is a fickle clown economy."

Neo

Looting

ORIGIN
early 19th century (as a verb): from Hindi lūṭ, from Sanskrit luṇṭh- ‘rob’.

Threadkiller

The Obama Judge makes a third attempt with the white cop black victim analogy. It is incredible.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
10m
Seattle Mayor says, about the anarchists takeover of her city, “it is a Summer of Love”. These Liberal Dems don’t have a clue. The terrorists burn and pillage our cities, and they think it is just wonderful, even the death. Must end this Seattle takeover now!

sbwaters

Clearly the Obama guy believes in judicial activism.

The DOJ responses are standing strong against it, differentiating clearly separation vs. unconstitutional motives, as the prosecutor and defendant agree.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Posted last thread:
"The fired State Dept IG was the subject of a full-blown investigation into a campaign of politicized targeting & leaking trying to take down the Trump admin's top official for imposing pressure on Iran."

Are GOPe Senators still whining about Trump firing IGs?

Threadkiller

The Bush judge pushes again that the system should play out and let this go to the July trial date. She doesn’t want to rock the boat.

The Infamous Ignatz

--The Trump Judge hammers Powell with the “Young case” and wonders if Sullivan can still go after Flynn on the contempt charge only. Powell sounds like she has no idea what the “Young case” is about.--

Unlike many here, I've never been too impressed by Powell. She talks big and tough but her grasp of important concepts and details seems wanting.
IANAL but I could see the contempt issue would always be the tougher one so she should have been prepared on it.

OTOH, Tracy Beanz may be correct. Often judges are very tough on someone they end up siding with, though it goes the other way too.
By and large it's kabuki because the briefs and their own research has made up their minds already 95% of the time they get to oral argument.

sbwaters

"an intemperate amicus" - Heh!

clarice

I think Sidney and the DOJ are doing a great job. I think the Ct of Appeals judges are too chary of offending Judge Walton. I'm not comfortable even though I think the legal arguments for mandamus are strong.

Threadkiller

Now the Bush Judge praises Sullivan as an “excellent” judge. I think she said “an old hand” or something like that.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

CH: "Getting rid of John Roberts has to be the highest priority."

If I had the power Roberts would rank higher than RBG or Wise Latina for removal. Roberts is a snake

Narciso

Before this is subscribed to the scenario in libra.

Threadkiller

Covid microphones keep cutting out on the DoJ attorney.

Marlene

sbw, I responded to your inquiry about traveling to Maine last night. I just want to mention again that you should bring groceries,because the small grocery stores here still have empty shelves. Also,don't forget your adult beverages!

Davod

Armadale, which is close to Perth in West Australia.

Old Lurker

Jim "If I had the power Roberts would rank higher than RBG or Wise Latina for removal."

ABSOLUTELY!

If we learned nothing from the final stages of frog boiling, it was that way more damage has been done, is being done, by the GOPe "friends" who sailed under false flags than our outright Enemies of the Constitution accomplished.

Threadkiller

Sorry for my assault on TBeanz, CH. I made an unfair generalization in my comment and you most certainly aren’t part of that grouping.

sbwaters

Thanks, Marlene!

MissMarple2

https://www.foxnews.com/media/rudy-guilliani-democrat-run-cities-out-control-declared-war-police

This article also has a video of Rudy on Laura Ingraham's show last night, which has even more detail than the article.

Threadkiller

The Covid mic is crapping out on Sullivan’s attorney as well.

sbwaters

Marlene, Mrs. sbw, agrees. This morning she has been compiling a list of perishables and Non-perishables (TP). Says we'll look like the Clampetts.

Threadkiller

The Trump judge cuts off the Sullivan attorney’s opening statement right away and asks questions.

Threadkiller

Sound is cutting out left and right. What a stupid way to have a hearing.

Another Bob

“I've never been too impressed by Powell.”

Agree. Her twitter account also seems odd for a practicing attorney.

AFAIC Lin Wood is overrated too. Elon’s lawyers took him to the cleaners in the “pedo diver” libel trial.

sbwaters

I thought that in her turn Powell was clear, concise, and compelling.

clarice

I thought Powell was fine. I thought the Solicitor of the DOJ was fine.

Threadkiller

I think the sound clipping is on my end.

The Trump Judge is essentially asking if the Sullivan has standing. It is a brilliant line of questioning. The other two judges are mostly silent.

Threadkiller

I wasn’t trying to portray Powell as ineffectual. I was noting that the Trump Judge pointed out a hole in her brief.

hrtshpdbox

...oswald acted alone, but may not have been acting independently.

Narciso, there's at least one intriguing account of eyewitnesses seeing two men, and a car, in an alley behind Edwin Walker's house (probably one of the only real-world details in Stone's baloney movie). That Oswald knew and was known by intelligence agencies is known; what's less known is if rogue agents with agendas sized up Oswald as perfect "loner nut" fodder.

Dave (in MA)
Gerry Callahan@GerryCallahan
I don't think anything should be named after a Kennedy.
Can I start tearing shit down now?
Threadkiller

The Obama Judge goes back to White Man Beating Black Man reasoning.

sbwaters

I see, TK.

Threadkiller

The Sullivan attorney engages the hypothetical.

::eye roll::

Jane

Davod,

Western Oz is one of my favorite places on earth. I only spent a month there, but loved it. I was visiting Red Bond, who you probably know (of) and I got to see the coolest things. I'm still in love with Quokkas. when were you there last? (Or are you there now?)


Jane

I think Sidney and the DOJ are doing a great job.

Me too, altho I missed about an hour of the hearing.

Threadkiller

Great closing arguments from Powell and the Solicitor.

Manuel Transmission

Davod,

By strange coincidence, one of my best pals at Ginormous Research followed his wife to Armadale around 1974 or 75 where his wife took a teaching job at the small college there. That lasted a couple years until their marriage broke up and he came home and she went to Mao’s funeral! Turns out she was a screaming liberal to the point that when she returned to the states, she landed in the Bay area and literally took up scream therapy.

My bud devoted his time to racing small dinghies there, which he was excellent at.

MissMarple2

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-responds-to-milley-apology-for-lafayette-square-photo-op

This article has a 12-minute video of Harris discussing the interview with lots of clips.

Tom R

IIRC T Beanzzzzz was a Mueller fan and we weren’t supposed to overreact because 4D.

Not to my knowledge. She became popular on Twitter for being the first person to point out Felix Sater was a confidential informant for Loretta Lynch. She also pointed out the email Sater sent to Michael Cohen talking about setting up a meeting between Trump and Putin could have easily triggered a FBI CounterIntel investigation.

The Infamous Ignatz

The few times I've seen Powell speak she seems "fine".
My contention she is unimpressive is in her written legal arguments.

Jack is Back!

I was wrong. The RNC is coming to JAX in August.

Better bring your own portable A/C.

Rules and other committees will meet in NC but the convention in JAX will be for 3 days.

Memo to Antifa and BLM: JSO (Jax Sherrif's Office) don't like even semi-disturbing protests.

Melinda

Yes, that Brennan.

I am ToRe 🎙️ @Tore_says
5m
So weird. @Microsoft sold that to @JohnBrennan over a decade ago. There is an MOU in place signed by MSFT and David Cuthbertson of the FBI. #PayAttention Wait -- did they say SELL? Money? So they make money off collecting your face. Let that sink in.

ACLU @ACLU
BREAKING: Microsoft just announced it will not sell face recognition technology to the police.


⬇️⬇️Awake Am I⬇️⬇️
@shirox1818
Replying to @Tore_says @Microsoft @JohnBrennan
They make money from EVERY single part of us!

https://twitter.com/shirox1818/status/1271466289224134662

The Infamous Ignatz

Relinking that excellent video of the Hodge Twins from yesterday.

But I note even they claim Chauvin murdered Floyd.
Why does 'no indication of asphyxiation or strangulation' not register with anyone, even reasonable conservatives?

sbwaters

Peter Thiel pointed to René Girard as an influence.

I've read about five different pages on René Girard's Mimetic Theory and decided that — if I see it clearly enough — if this is what globalists are promoting... it is a new and different kind of poison civil society doesn't need.

The Infamous Ignatz

Wretchard's Latest.

James D.

Unlike many here, I've never been too impressed by Powell. She talks big and tough but her grasp of important concepts and details seems wanting.

At least she's actively working on the right side, which puts her about a zillion miles ahead of 99.999999% of the people in DC.

Melinda

City Officials Admit to Accepting Bribes

A former Calexico City, California councilman along with a former commissioner on the city’s Economic Development and Financial Advisory Commission, pleaded guilty in federal court today to corruption charges, admitting that they accepted cash bribes in exchange for promises of official action by the city.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/city-officials-admit-accepting-bribes

Jane

I am very impressed with Powell, and have been for years!

henry

Our legal system is a monstrosity from A to Z.

The Infamous Ignatz

A poll so who knows but 55% of Dems favor defunding the police.

The Infamous Ignatz

Margot Cleveland
@ProfMJCleveland
Bottom Line: Judge Henderson will decide the outcome & it will be based solely on her decision concerning whether to let Sullivan have the chance to do the right thing and dismiss. 50/50.

jimmyk

Why does 'no indication of asphyxiation or strangulation' not register with anyone, even reasonable conservatives?

I've been saying this since day one, even before the 'no asphyxiation' report came out, never mind the info about fentanyl and meth, even correcting people here at JOM. I figured it was likely information like that would come out, and in any case, it shouldn't be pre-judged. I don't even like it when people say Floyd "was killed." He very likely died from some combination of the drugs and pre-existing conditions. But regardless of facts, he'll still enter the pantheon of heroes that include the likes off Michael Brown and Trayvon Martin. We'll see whether Chauvin gets the Red Queen treatment or a fair trial.

Melinda

South Korean company pleads guilty in U.S military base corruption scandal

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/06/11/South-Korean-company-pleads-guilty-in-US-military-base-corruption-scandal/8921591845631/

Melinda

jimmyk-

I can't recall who it was off the top of my head, but an elected official somewhere's made a passionate speech about Floyd being shot.

So, just another tool in the toolbox....

clarice

Iggy, that's 2 of us on the "murder" claim.

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