Delay The Election?!?

Trump had a baffling tweet suggesting we might need to delay the election until it was safe to vote.

In a calm, measured reaction the head of the Federalist Society said a speculative tweet like this is grounds for immediate impeachment. OK, that's a bit of an over-reaction but it is revealing that a prominent conservative and beneficiary of the Trump/McConnell Judge Confirmation Assembly Line would openly rebel over, well, nothing.

Yuval Levin of National Review takes us through election law. Timing is up to Congress and some tweaks might make sense for 2020 since we will have a surge of mail-in ballots to count:

But there may well be a way for Congress to help the election go more smoothly in those later two parts of the code I just cited above. The problem mail-in voting can create, especially in jurisdictions that aren’t used to so much of it, isn’t about fraud but about delays in counting and verifying results. So what may need to be adjusted is not the date of the election but the Electoral College deadlines that follow it.

I made a case for a reform like this (with Kevin Johnson of the Election Reformers Network) earlier this month in the Washington Post. As things now stand, election day is November 3, states need to finalize their results by December 8 to avoid their being challenged in Congress, and then members of the Electoral College are to meet on December 14. Congress certifies the results on January 6, and the winner is inaugurated January 20. That means that there are 78 days between the election and the inauguration, but states have only 35 of those days to finalize their results. As we’ve seen in some primaries this year, that simply may not be enough time in some contested states.

So rather than changing the election date, Congress should act to push back—just for this year—the date by which states have to finalize results and the date on which the electors meet. Pushing those back by two or three weeks could give contested states a lot more breathing room to deal with the actual challenges involved in mail-in voting while the election, certification, and inauguration would all go on as scheduled.

 

Comments

[MissMarple2]

hrt,

There are indictments. They have indicted some Chinese, a scientist (biochemist, I think) from Yale, and there are indictments of some of the small fry being opened today.

And I am sorry I got carried away, but how come no one ever acts like anyone else has been carried away?

[Narciso]

Youre proceeding from a false assumption old lurker, that trump wanted this, we saw the tripwire when he removed comey.

[MissMarple2]

OL,

1. I am sorry I got carried away, but it seems to me you do sometimes, too. I will try to be more reserved.

2. I no longer have the hush button. After Microsoft updated (without my permission) to the next level, it disappeared. Probably something I can blame on Bill Gates, like pushing for the vaccine.

[rse]

The extent to which this toes the line https://www.city-journal.org/reining-in-big-tech with what one of the primary lawyers for the search engine giant said yesterday in a legal program makes it appear that the Manhattan Institute also has new patrons.

[Narciso]

Its like valentines cabal in kingsman, that included obama, they wanted to cull the herd with violence, they didnt much care about the emissions (the hockey stick)

[Old Lurker]

Hrts, how many times do I have to repeat that Trump has my complete support and gratitude. Who here does not know that since I have said that so often?

What I say that pisses others off, especially MM, is that in spite of his efforts to plug the holes, the ship is sinking anyway, with the approval of many of the passengers. The other thing I imply from time to time that makes her even madder is that while Trump is the only person fighting for our team, I am not convinced - but she is with the conviction Jihadists have for Allah - his goals are 100% in alignment with mine.

[jimmyk]

Nice piece by Sadie, Tonto.

[Old Lurker]

And Hrts, from your post of the guy on the Ledge, do you really think my angst is ONLY because of the lack of indictments? really?

[Old Lurker]

Applies to your comment too, Narc.

[Narciso]

Were just humble spectators inside the snowglobe old lurker, we count on the likes of the turtle. Sarc.

[Old Lurker]

You got that right, Narc.

:-)

[hrtshpdbox]

I figure that every songwriter feels a need to belt 'em out themselves. If you're James Taylor, no problem, you can sing. If you're Gordon Lightfoot or Kris Kristofferson, you do the best you can and sound fine in the studio. But if you're Buzzy Linhart, it's a challenge. Linhart wrote "Friends", which was a hit for Bette Midler. When I was a teen, he had an album "Pussycats Can Go Far" which was popular where I grew up on Long Island. Years later I saw him play at Folk City in the Village, which was memorable.

Anyway, Buzzy couldn't sing, but he wrote one terrific song in "Loves Still Growing". Carly Simon covered it, I'd always thought she'd written it but I should've suspected that it was too high quality for her pen. Two of the Roche singers, who were great singers, covered it as well. Both covers try to stay as true to the source as possible, and that's the great thing about the song - Buzzy lays out a very specific blueprint for the song despite clearly being unable to bring it off himself - in fact, towards the end of the song he pretty much just starts wailing off-key on purpose. But you still know what he's intended, and while those who actually can hold a note make it beautiful, in a way nothing can beat the songwriter with his creation and his cracking voice.

Buzzy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GHBNKZgp3g

Roche Sisters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_2Sa4xeopQ

[jimmyk]

I am not convinced - but she is with the conviction Jihadists have for Allah - his goals are 100% in alignment with mine.

I know you're being rhetorical, OL, but you have to admit that's a pretty high standard. I'd be happy with 60%.

But really, it's not so much about the goals but about the potential for the strategies to attain the goals. You must admit he's had practically everything working against him. Every EO gets slapped down by an Obama judge. McCain's last dying act was to screw him over the Obamacare repeal. And so on.

As I've said before, whenever things seem dark, remember how close we were to having Hillary has President, and how the last 3.5 years would have played out.

[clarice]

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/07/are-the-social-distancing-shutdowns-a-contributing-factor-to-u-s-covid-19-challenges/

[hrtshpdbox]

...do you really think my angst is ONLY because of the lack of indictments?

No, that was just in general recognition of ledge-dwellers, OL, I know I've seen grousing about lack of indictments here but don't actually know who was doing it.

[Threadkiller]

When the meat gets listed as individual observations, I don’t see anything but factual observations:

•That man is alone at his desk, nobody is helping him, and nobody fears him.

•He is reduced to seeing how much more free money he can borrow from our children to sprinkle on We The People Now to keep the circuses open.

•And some think we will rise up like yesterday was Pearl Harbor and save our world as we thought it was? More people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Donald Trump.

•Nobody paid any price at all for crimes they committed to prevent Trump from winning anyway, so why should that change now?

Shooting the messenger won’t make the points disappear.

[Narciso]

Great piece tonto.

[Narciso]

Who is doling out the cash, the witch of baltimore, how does the money end up in deniros pocket and axios and mediamatters instead of more worthy recipients.

[henry]

fwiw.

https://news.yale.edu/2020/07/27/immune-system-variation-can-predict-severe-covid-19-outcomes

[Old Lurker]

Hrts..."I know I've seen grousing about lack of indictments here but don't actually know who was doing it."

Guilty as charged on that Hrsts. My point is that it is but one data point in my depression.

Yes, Jimmy, rhetoric R Us!

[sbwaters]

OL: in spite of his efforts to plug the holes, the ship is sinking anyway, with the approval of many of the passengers.

Well put.

--
Hrt, well-written cover notes.

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Narc, it’s turtles all the way down.

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And, in a movie reference and a positive note ...

"Today we get to play baseball."

[Threadkiller]

SWC:

In 2008, Epstein pled guilty to state charges in Florida for procuring an underage girl for prostitution. As part of that arrangement, the US Attorney for the Southern District of Florida agreed to a “Deferred Prosecution Agreement” (DPA) to resolve an indictment on similar charges that had been filed under seal by a Florida grand jury. If Epstein successfully completed his sentence in the state case, the federal case would be dismissed without further proceedings.

There is nothing “ordinary” about the disposition of the federal case in Florida, and the details of that case are not well known beyond the reporting by the Miami Herald. But one aspect of the DPA that no one connected to federal law enforcement that I know has ever seen done before is that it supposedly grants immunity to other individuals, including ANY unnamed “potential co-conspirators”. Ghislaine Maxwell’s attorneys have publicly stated that they intend to assert the language of the DPA as a defense on her behalf in the federal indictment recently returned against her.

https://www.redstate.com/shipwreckedcrew/2020/07/31/alan-dershowitz-prince-andrew-bill-richardson-and-bill-clinton-all-named-in-epstein-court-docs-as-involved-with-underage-girls/

[Captain Hate]

I agree 100% with box's 8:26 and would add that what Trump has endured is why you see no Uniparty outsiders running for President. He is literally one in 330 million.

[hrtshpdbox]

That man is alone at his desk, nobody is helping him, and nobody fears him.

But boy oh boy he's gonna kick some ass in his second term, MAGA 2020!!

[hrtshpdbox]

My point is that it is but one data point in my depression.

OL, I would never think of your pessimism as one-dimensional!

[Narciso]

Judge gleeson did as much for hsbc. Slapping then with a 100 million dollar fine.

[Captain Hate]

For decades we have been telling Americans to follow the guidance of medical experts when it comes to public health issues. It is ingrained in the national conscience. And this goes for most developed countries around the world.

These institutions have become very powerful (and very corrupt) with massive government funding and they all work together around the world in lockstep. All of them bow down before the WHO when it comes to pandemic issues and the WHO is now controlled by China. Even knowing how corrupt it has become and dominated by our enemy many Americans just follow them like drones.

Couple that with Trump rightly saying that states need to make local decisions based on local conditions and a weaponized Democrat party looking for anyway possible and you have a perfect storm of an issue the left can use to beat on Trump and Republicans.

Trump rarely wears a mask so the germaphobe thing doesn't work. He's called for states to open as fast as possible and for schools to open in the fall and the left is fighting him every step of the way because they care more about politics and power than kids.

This situation is like having a natural disaster hitting the country for going on 6 months now with half the country working to make it worse by prolonging it because November is coming and they are desperate to get rid of Trump. We're in a war for the soul of the country and only one side seems to know it. Trump knows it.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2020 09:09 AM (ZLI7S)

[Extraneus]

Nice comment about Buzzy's song, box.

[hrtshpdbox]

Just a slight better-than-expected for Amazon; they were looking for earnings of $1.70 per share, came in at over $10.

[hrtshpdbox]

Thanks ext, and sbw.

[Narciso]

Hsbc the one that swallowed up arthue anderson and safras republic national bank before his mysterious death.

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Hubby checked the garden this morning and came in with a double summer squash. Twin squash! Life is exciting in the woods. :)

I was grumpy yesterday because hubby put on his safety goggles and a black mask and took a picture to send to his Karen sister. Not funny,I said. Then the news about Herman Cain and the media reaction. Howie Carr usually plays audio of idiot reporters and/or politicians and their idiot statements at the top of every hour. Yesterday afternoon he played the media's comments about Herman Cain and OMG! He went to a Trump rally and then he died. We had grilled cheese sandwiches for supper then I started reading my Kindle,looked at the clock and it was midnight. Thank God for books,reading is my escape.

[Threadkiller]

On topic:

Trump had an intelligent goal when he tweeted about delaying the election

http://americanthinker.com/blog/2020/07/trump_had_an_intelligent_goal_when_he_tweeted_about_delaying_the_election_.html

[MissMarple2]

Old Lurker,

I am not convinced his goals are in line with your aspirations. I am convinced he is aligned with my children's and grandchildren's aspirations.

Any wealth I had accumulated my loathsome ex-husband withdrew from our bank account and absconded with, so my descendants need a vision and hope. THAT is why I get so mad; you as much as tell everyone to give up.

Now I will quit bothering you.

[Threadkiller]

Hydroxy Hysteria Reaching a Fever Pitch

http://americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/hydroxy_hysteria_reaching_a_fever_pitch.html

[Melinda]

TK-

I know looking at that list has the spotlight, but watch the signatories on behalf of the DoJ and FBI. That's the list I'm watching.

[Melinda]

Anyone else notice that The Stutterer spoke in front of a nationally televised crowded church, but no one else in the US can, in private?

[Threadkiller]

https://freebeacon.com/2020-election/ilhan-omar-paid-her-husbands-firm-600000-in-three-weeks/

Untouchable

[Threadkiller]

That's the list I'm watching.

It will be interesting.

[Captain Hate]

Anyone else notice that The Stutterer spoke in front of a nationally televised crowded church, but no one else in the US can, in private?

Yes, I've been making a related point for months.

[Melinda]

And they no longer have political cover, because Epstein.

[Extraneus]

I'm watching it right now, box. Up 170.

[James D.]

There has to be some thing behind Romney’s consistently antagonistic remarks — China and relatives, travel to the Caribbean, pizza.

Maybe he’s just a supremely self-righteous asshole who believes his own press clippings and can’t get over the fact that a vulgar loudmouth hmm from Queens accomplished something that he couldn’t.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best.

[Rocco]

Good morning,

Does anyone really believe the union controlled postal workers won't steal the election, especially after Trump called the Postal Service "a joke."

[hrtshpdbox]

Ext, I thought the revenues 10% higher than expected was the most epic part of the quarter. I hope it's a good signal for the economy generally.

[hrtshpdbox]

Rocco, my postman thinks of it the other way round; he's convinced the postmaster general is trying to screw the post offices up to ruin mail-in ballots and keep Trump in office.

[jimmyk]

he's convinced the postmaster general is trying to screw the post offices up to ruin mail-in ballots and keep Trump in office.

As if post offices haven't already been screwed up for 50 years.

[Old Lurker]

MM "Now I will quit bothering you."

Now MM, what you you or I do without each other to snap at?

[sbwaters]

I've worked with the USPS in excruciating detail — national newspaper association committee — for the last 35 years.

With members in every single congressional district, governing their inefficient operation has been intractable.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Michael Shellenberger gets the 'reclaiming my time' treatment.

[Old Lurker]

MM again "you as much as tell everyone to give up."

I like to think I am warning the other passengers that if they don't get out of their deck chairs and grab a bucket, the ship is going to sink right out from under them. And that includes the passengers who are OK with the ship sinking, and it includes passengers who think Trump will save them.

[Melinda]

hrt-

For at least the last 10-12 years, Internal mgmt at USPS has been trying to close as many offices to protect cash burn for their pensions. Alinsky Rules sez to project it as upper mgmt driven to cover for what are actually bureaucratic goals. The layer between "Policy Makers" and regional chiefs is where the protection aspect comes in.

Been watching it at the local office level and their "strategic moves" within the district, all the while protecting the centers with the biggest political clout on the Hill. Same DC biz as always.

[Melinda]

OL-

After this conference call, I'll be less busy and can fill in with alternative arguments!

[Old Lurker]

Hrts "Rocco, my postman thinks of it the other way round; he's convinced the postmaster general is trying to screw the post offices up to ruin mail-in ballots and keep Trump in office."

I posted exactly that the other day because that IS EXACTLY what all these libs on Nantucket swear is true. Priority mail to the Cape and Islands is officially running three weeks behind, and I am POSITIVE that is a union action to get more bucks to the Postal workers, and they know darn good and well how many DC power people are suffering up here with no mail.

Clear as a bell.

[Melinda]

Overton Window Shift.

Benjamin Franklin🆘11/4
@benFranklin2018
The only way Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell were able to get away with what they did was with the complicity of our government. #EpsteinFiles

https://twitter.com/benFranklin2018/status/1289156540125986816

[GUS]

JIMBO Clyburne is almost retarded. Am I allowed to say that. I think he's prolly considered a civil rights icon in certain circle jerks.

[Rocco]

Laura Ingraham: Teachers unions may prove 'nonessential' to parents

"By refusing to teach, by politicizing curricula, by jeopardizing our childrens' mental and physical well-being, they are showing us how nonessential they are becoming.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/laura-ingraham-teachers-unions-may-prove-nonessential-to-parents

Union teachers holding kids hostage again. I need to go to confession because I haven't hated anyone as much as I hate union teachers.

[Manuel Transmission]

Hrt, I recognized that Bleecker Street album cover, but haven’t played my copy in a very long time. I’ll crank it up this afternoon.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
11m
Somebody please tell Congressman Clyburn, who doesn’t have a clue, that the chart he put up indicating more CASES for the U.S. than Europe, is because we do MUCH MORE testing than any other country in the World. If we had no testing, or bad testing, we would show very few CASES..

.....Our massive testing capability, rather than being praised, is used by the Lamestream Media and their partner, the Do Nothing Radical Left Democrats, as a point of scorn. This testing, and what we have so quickly done, is used as a Fake News weapon. Sad!

[Rocco]

Well the Postmaster General is a Trump appointee so there's the rub with the union.

[henry]

Nice to have cover for ignoring a tyrant. Don’t see how any business can ignore the tyrant’s orders (or open their doors at all during the tyrant’s “emergency “) given the packs of drooling trial lawyers waiting for a [false?] positive Kung Flu test to complete the left’s shredding of business owners.

OL is far too positive in his outlook. ;)

@vickimckenna

Green County DA announces he will NOT enforce @GovEvers mask mandate. He says "It is my legal opinion that Executive Order #82 is an unlawful".

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1289202212925661187?s=21

[Captain Hate]

Clyburn is a full retard.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/O8bK1Ewtqu

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 31, 2020

Video at the link. Rep. Jim Jordan and Maria Bartiromo. A little under 7 minutes.

[Tonto]

@ James 9:40

Occam's Razor!

[Captain Hate]

4D dropping like a rock

Two times the FBI was alerted to the crimes Epstein and Maxwell were committing. The FBI directors were Robert Mueller and James Comey.

You think there might be a pattern here?
Posted by: JackStraw at July 31, 2020 10:32 AM (ZLI7S)

[jimmyk]

given the packs of drooling trial lawyers waiting for a [false?] positive Kung Flu test to complete the left’s shredding of business owners.

What became of the move to give businesses immunity from these sorts of lawsuits? That would potentially give a big shot of adrenaline to the recovery, plus a new layer of meaning to the expression "Caveat emptor!"

[Narciso]

Schumer and co, say the locusts must feed.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

What became of the move to give businesses immunity from these sorts of lawsuits?

According to reporting on the latest round of stimulus $$ extensions... it has been deemed "not the hill to die on."

[Old Lurker]

Thinking Trump could F**k with the mail even if he spent 24X7 trying to do that - and in secret - does not even rise to Bad Joke Level.

[Narciso]

Yet that is the thinking in diatrict 3 is it?

[Threadkiller]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/30/breitbart-news-appeals-twitter-account-suspension-review-drags-out-beyond-48-hours/

[MissMarple2]

TheHuBLife
@GeneralDilley
·
11m
Fauci testifying = Stock Market tanks

Fuck this corrupt, lying piece of shit.
=============================================

The sentiments of one of my Twitter friends.

[MissMarple2]

Kurt Schlichter
@KurtSchlichter
·
32m
You have no moral obligation to submit to Democrat tyranny.

You’re morally entitled to respond and retaliate as you see fit.

[clarice]

Anyone looking for a lovely house in Suwanee,Ga? My brother is selling his. Anyone live in Daytona Beach? My brother just bought a house there.

[Manuel Transmission]

You’re morally entitled to respond and retaliate as you see fit.

The full scope of that WRT live rounds is becoming more evident every day.

[clarice]

My latest for Pipeline:https://the-pipeline.org/connecting-the-non-profit-foundation-dots/

[Dave (in MA)]

Fredo's dumb, dishonest, both; you decide:

https://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1289198011160113159

TM has a reply, which is what brought it to my timeline.

[Rocco]

YES! Hockey it is, Go B's!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/every-nba-millionaire-knelt-national-anthem-season-opener-every-single-nhl-hockey-player-stood-anthem-opener/

[Jane]

Just to set the record straight, Herman Cain's daughter had the virus, and he took her to the hospital.

[Dave (in MA)]

Jane,

Doesn't fit the narrative.

[clarice]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/yales-embrace-of-opacity-in-time-of-crisis-is-the-opposite-of-wise

[Jane]

Excellent article Clarice! (as always)

[Melinda]

Dave-

That isn’t even close wrt Fredo, not even Jerry’s close.

Brian Williams was even worse.

-32.9% is the rate of change from prior quarter of -5.0%, or the 2nd derivative.

Just had to explain it using cars and semis going down a hill.

[asw]

TK This might interest you. You may have more luck finding details than I am. Wish I was in La Jolla.
https://twitter.com/GeorgWebb/status/1288553096881352712?s=20

[lyle]

Behold:

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/07/30/george-w-bush-has-more-class-than-the-entire-democratic-party-n732231

It’s paywalled but the headline is all you need.

[Jane]

Here is Violet's go fund me site if anyone is looking:

https://www.gofundme.com/f/quotultraquot-violet-needs-our-help?utm_source=customer&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link-tip

[Momto2]

Yes, Jane - I thank Steph for posting that detail here and on her FB page. I have been able to share it with several "friends" who couldn't wait to blame his death on attending a Trump rally.

[Dave (in MA)]

Rocco,

Don't get too excited.

https://twitter.com/QE58091142/status/1289217255838892032

[Neo]

Restarting professional sports is beginning to take on the flavor of the decade-long bumbling to replace the World Trade Center after 9/11.

[Neo]

When these various team “take a knee” .. are they commemorating the knee placed on George Floyd’s neck ?

[Melinda]

Neo-

Are you telling me they're going to install mosques at all sports venues in celebration, or are we getting WHO fees on top of all tickets?

I confused.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Jane,

Doesn't fit the narrative.

No it doesn't. I've been posting my friend Bill Crane from WSB, who is their political commentator every election cycle and frequent guest on Herman's show all over the nets to correct the narrative.

I spent a worthless several comments last night with a sister of another of our HS friends as she argued that, since she couldn't find another source on the net for this claim that Bill posted to his personal FB page filled with his personal rememberances of Herman, it didn't happen that way and until I could post a source from a reported website like WSBs or the NYT, it is false.

Some days you wonder why you argue with a brick wall. Some days you stupidly keep banging your head against that wall. I have a headache.

[Melinda]

Dave-

To clarify, I just had to explain it to someone who really should know better using cars and semis on a hill, and not you.

[Dave (in MA)]

Yeah, I got that, Mel.

Speaking of Herman Cain, maybe Newsmax should think about changing their ad promoting their network featuring shows like the Herman Cain Show. I hear it multiple times per day.

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

Cost-benefit analysis! If you look at how President He-Who-Must_Not-Be_Named does things, it's almost all by that method, including cleaning up the environment.

He recognizes how wasteful it is to pay someone to clean a section of the environment here which is already pretty clean, when he could remove a great deal more pollution in India or Bangladesh. For that matter, you probably get more clean-up for the buck cleaning up Harlem rather than Westchester.

He also probably recognizes the grifters who are looking for an easy buck. ANOTHER reason why the "elite" don't like him!

I will also always be grateful for this bit of wisdom:

"In other words, if the US “poor” were a nation, it would be one of the world’s richest. "

I am going to print that out and whenever I start feeling sorry for myself, make myself read it a couple of times.

[Neo]

https://c19study.com/

66 Global HCQ studies
PrEP, PEP, and early treatment studies show high effectiveness, while late treatment shows mixed results.

[Jim Eagle]

Clarice,

narciso and I are the closest to Daytona. I go there at least once a week.

We are all preparing for the Big Soak this weekend.

[Melinda]

Tell me what's being investigated so I can cover for it, please!

CNN Politics
@CNNPolitics
NEW: House Democrats subpoena Secretary of State Mike Pompeo to turn over documents related to the Bidens and Ukrainian energy company Burisma cnn.it/3gjBy8J

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1289225335712690177

[Dave (in MA)]

How did your cars/semis analogy go? It might be useful when we're off on other venues arguing with TDSers.

[MissMarple2]

Jane,

Thanks for letting us know about Herman Cain's daughter being sick with the virus, and him taking her to the hospital. Where did you hear that? I want to be ready to quote with some of these jerks.