Meanwhile, Back In Wuhan...

A respected doctor has questions he'd like WHO to ask China about the COVID-19 origin story. Questions six, seven and eight relate to a lab origin.

Oh, my. Hard to imagine China's leadership deliberately 'fessing up, if there is a lab connection. "Proof" will probably be disputable, which could make for a contentious October Surprise.

Picture the Times desperately debunking intel community assessments that COVID come from a Chinese lab while desperately promoting intel community assessments that the Russians were paying off the Taliban and Trump ignored it.

Good times!

PILING ON: James Geraghty of NRO had lots of background in April. For my money it came from a lab, the cover-up will never be broken, and we may as well start unifying conspiracies and mumbling "Epstein didn't handle those bats himself."

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[peter]

patient zero

[Narciso]

Who is the chinese cognate for weissman

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC

[Captain Hate]

Is it too late to blame this on that POS Tricky Dick? Is there any fuckup that doesn't have a RINO cause?

[jimmyk]

On the "racism" of the bug, from the last thread;
It couldn't possibly be because blacks have a considerably higher incidence of morbid obesity, diabetes and heart disease.

I'm convinced there's a behavioral element too. NYC has a zip code level map of the incidence of cases and deaths, and you can immediately spot the absolute worst neighborhoods with the highest numbers. Not a perfect correlation, as there are some other ethnic enclaves in Queens that have high numbers. But East New York, Far Rockaway, Pelham Gardens (Bronx) stick out as the the worst places. They're as much Hispanic as black, but I'd suspect a lack of common sense is as important as other health issues.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

[Captain Hate]

LOLGF

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=389154

[Narciso]

No that was probably adultery of the heart or razorbacks doing.

[Narciso]

Now that might not have been indicated by the way he reacted to the huntress let me thing.

[lyle]

From last thread even though OL beat me to it:

The problem is IQ does not appear to be distributed equally along racial lines

Charles Murray begs to differ...

[Melinda]

I gues TM hasn't read the Bari Weiss resignation letter, yet, since she spells it out pretty clearly what's gone off the rails at NYSlimes:

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

I post it again for his, and others, benefit.

And of course neither the NRO nor the NYSlimes would investigate whether or not there are Hong Kong viroligist defectors blabbing about the situation and cooperating with investigative authorities about the origins of the pandemic:

https://www.foxnews.com/media/li-meng-yan-virologist-china-coronavirus-coverup

[MissMarple2]

Brit Hume reviews Bari Weiss' resignation letter to the New York Times on Twitter:

Brit Hume
@brithume
·
57m
A NY Times columnist quits in disgust at what an organ of enforced orthodoxy the paper’s editorial pages have become. Read every word. The ring of truth is unmistakable.

https://www.bariweiss.com/resignation-letter

[Jane]

Mel,

What kind do you get. As you know I a working to cure Alzheimers, and a nasal problem blocks your brain. No indication that it can fix the problem, but I'll give it a shot.

[Jane]

Rush is talking about the Weiss letter. Very funny!

[Manuel Transmission]

It was 26 yrs ago this month that we took possession of our place here on the rock and I settled down with a book that changed my life in many ways: Bell Curve. When combined with basics of psychopathy and who has that, you can explain just about everything across all the human race. And none of it has skin color in it, except for inconvenient non-random clusters in the data. Looking back through the telescope the wrong way, and exploiting symptoms instead of seeking a resolution (not a cure!) will probably be our ultimate demise.

[Old Lurker]

And ManTran, the treatment by the Left of Murray after that (great) book presaged so much more and nastier punishment and censorship to come, didn't it?

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Is Weiss going to sue? I sure hope so.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

This is an interesting thread about what college students think about the various distancing measures they are asked to adopt to return to campus.

https://twitter.com/DrSherryPagoto/status/1282038054245543936

[Melinda]

Jane-

CVS generic: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-saline-nasal-spray-prodid-6205

[Old Lurker]

ManTran, I should have added that the failure to defend that work and the author's right to write it by the Right ALSO presaged bad things to come.

Welcome to the Whirlwind.

[Melinda]

The hypoxia of masks, shown live:

https://twitter.com/carbongate/status/1283098577405988864?s=21

[MissMarple2]

Chuck Callesto
@ChuckCallesto
·
1m
BREAKING REPORT: BLM has been raiding the public facebook of Jessica Whitaker, the 24-year old mother that was murdered in Indiana. They are celebrating her death and mocking her family members.

WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS OF THE BLM ORGANIZATION?
============================================
My thoughts are that they are evil, and once in total power, imagine how they will behave! -MM

[Captain Hate]

Not the hill to die on, OL. If you're wondering how you get a traitor Roberts, look no further.

[Old Lurker]

Yep Cap'n.

[Old Lurker]

When history is written, the vilification of Galileo, Darwin and Murray will all be in the same chapter.

Some facts, and the observers who tell about them, just really cannot be allowed to stand.

[henry]

Thread with more Bari detail:

@ericrweinstein

Bari Weiss has now resigned from the @nytimes. And that is not even “The Story”. I‘ve just spoken to Bari & learned that I‘m finally free to tweet.

Her letter hints at the real News: the *loss* of the News is now *the* News, and the News cannot cover it.

https://twitter.com/ericrweinstein/status/1283098863419584513?s=21

[Robin, eff 'em all]

For those of you curious, the duckduckgo results for "lizard illuminati."

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lizard+illuminati&t=hk&ia=web

[DrJ]

Tough week.

My bookkeeper had her mother die in her arms. My EE consultant lost his daughter to cancer. MrsJ has a spot on her breast that is being examined.

And I have been very ill.

Not a good time. Prayers are appreciated.

[Captain Hate]

Who says there's nothing good on Colbert?

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=389159

[Captain Hate]

Prayers up, DrJ.

[Neo]

"Not a single county in the state... can tell you they know how people are hospitalized in the intensive care unit -- or dead -- because of COVID as opposed to with COVID," Uhler says in the video. He goes on to describe a hypothetical accident involving someone being hospitalized after severing a limb while "juggling chainsaws" and later testing positive for COVID-19.
https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/article244199957.html

[sbwaters]

DrJ, everyone on JOM and their loved ones get prayers constantly.

[Manuel Transmission]

OL, agreed on all counts. Isn’t it interesting that taking a competency exam as part of an employment application as opposed to flashing your diploma was probably the initial turning point.

[rse]

Oh, Dr J.

Will be thinking of all you have going on.

This is very good. https://cms.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/07/edward-said-prophet-political-violence-america-caroline-glick

When Orientalism was first published, scholars across multiple fields panned it. Those whom Said had personally and professionally attacked in the book, as well as those whom he supported in it, rejected both his thesis and his argument.

And this makes sense, because at the heart of Said's polemic was a clear goal of invalidating fact- and evidence-based scholarship in favor of narrative arguments. If all Western—and specifically American—scholarship of the non-Western world is inherently and inescapably racist, then it didn't matter how well a person mastered the subject. Nothing he could possibly do would be credible.

At its base, Orientalism was a call to arms against reason.

For students both then and now, the kind of thinking—or non-thinking—that Orientalism prescribes is extremely alluring. Said's essential message is that a great scholar of Islam—or of Asia, Africa or Latin America—is worse than worthless. If he is a white American, he is an agent of evil. In recent years, the academic areas where Said's anti-intellectual prescription have determined white Americans are by their nature unfit to work have massively expanded. Among others, they now include African-American studies, gender studies and transgender studies. On the other hand, a student at any level who embraces Said's postcolonial posture is automatically accorded the status of the moral and intellectual superior to an expert who devotes his life to studying his subject.

The ignorance of the postcolonial academic is rewarded, while the knowledge of the veteran scholar is vilified.

This is how you get around differences in academic ability. You shift all forms of education to creation of a desired worldview grounded in emotion and away from an accumulation of knowledge. Precisely what is going on in K-12 and virtual or even hybrid learning will simply accelerate. The pandemic becomes an excuse for the desired changes and charges of structural racism turn disparities into civil rights issues.

Goes to iggy and porch's discussion from this morning that I was too distracted by family issues to interject myself. Now I am reading to calm myself down as it is too hot to take a 2nd walk today.

[Old Lurker]

ManTran, I meant to ask you the other day. What is a "Chemical Rod"?

[rse]

MT--

You know 'competency' is an orwellian term in ed that is NOT used in your sense or the Webster's definition either.

Hard to imagine someone with your background getting excited by a university proposing to provide "powerful cognitive skills" and practice at being part of a community. Not in addition to the transmission of knowledge, but the whole point.

[JimNorCal]

TM: For my money it came from a lab, the cover-up will never be broken, and we may as well start unifying conspiracies and mumbling "Epstein didn't handle those bats himself."

I stand with Mr Maguire on this one!

[henry]

Hillary wiped those bats clean, like with a cloth.

[Captain Hate]

When history is written, the vilification of Galileo, Darwin and Murray will all be in the same chapter.

I've said since sciency jeanyus ManBearPig started running his ignorant yap that Global Warming was an anti Galilean concept which doesn't adhere to any rigors of the scientific method.

[rse]

It is an excuse for social science theories to get implemented as the supposed remedy ch.

[Marlene]

Dr.J, I will keep you in my thoughts.

[JimNorCal]

Jane, I got an acupuncture treatment for allergies a couple of years ago.
It had no effect whatsoever LOL. But maybe it was lack of faith?
My wife insisted "insurance pays for it: it's free, why not try it, what do you have to lose?" while I was saying "how could this possibly work?"

[rse]

Emory's med school has had an acupuncturist on its faculty for more than a decade and I saw him when I was trying to recover from an undiagnosed break in my wrist that had knitted itself. It is fascinating what pushing through a high level of pain can do to other areas of your body.

Part of ultimately getting relief from the right wrist pain meant that the front of my left calf had, to my surprise, become a repository for acute pain. The trained acupuncturist had guessed that and put needles in there, which was my first indication that area needed release.

Even with someone highly trained it is not a panacea nor is it painless.

[Dave (in MA)]

An insignificant rounding error,

Amy [email protected]·
ERRORS FOUND: Florida's positivity rate is skewed. #FOX35 went through #COVID19 test reports & found many clinics reporting 100% positivity. @orlandohealth admits their number is wrong, saying it shows 98% positive, but it's actually 9.4%. @fox35orlando https://fox35orlando.com/news/orlando-health-confirms-state-covid-19-report-has-errors

Close enough for government work.

[Old Lurker]

I'm less interested in where it started and who did what, than why the world and especially the US fell for it hook, line & sinker. And half+ still do.

[Dave (in MA)]

🤍DrJ🤍MrsJ

[Jane]

That sucks Jim!

[Jane]

Dr. J.

I'm so sorry. I'll say a prayer!

[henry]

@barnes_law

#GhislaineMaxwell lost bail today. Her presence in the US suggests she may have been misadvised by lawyers that staying in the US increased her chances of bail. A key issue ignored at today's bail hearing: how will the government's custodial control prevent her being #Epsteined?

[Jane]

Ok. What's the "SIM" on your phone? The new one wants one and there is nothing in my old one.

[lyle]

So sorry, DrJ.

[Comanche Voter]

Governor Gavin Gruesome Newman's perfectly coiffed hair is on fire again, and he's shut down barbershops in some 29 counties in California (among other things).

If you test for Covid-19 (I prefer to call it the Wuhan Virus) you are going to find it; and if you dramatically increase the number of tests for Covid-19 you are naturally going to find more of it. Well duh--seek, and ye shall find.

But a lot of those positives are either recovered from or asynptomatic.

What's important--and which these nattering nincompoops of negativity in governor's offices can't seem to focus on, is the number of people admitted to hospitals either because of or "with" Covid-19 and the number of fatalities. If fatalities spike up then perhaps lockdowns are justified. Otherwise it's mere persiflage from the puerile political pigmies that infest our lives.

[Manuel Transmission]

OL, a chem ground rod is typically about a 2” copper pipe 10’ long capped on both ends and filled with some goo that weeps out of pinholes in the bottom. You dig an oversized hole to place it in and backfill with Bentonite. Over time moisture draws the chemical out and creates a huge, ultra low impedance ground. Typically well below 1 ohm. Depending on the soil properties and the degree of lightning protection needed, you can place them in arrays. CH may have knowledge of that from his 3rd rate power company days.

[jimmyk]

“Is Weiss going to sue? I sure hope so.”

IANAL, but my impression is that you can only sue for a hostile work environment if it’s due to your sex, race, religion, etc. Not your political views.

[Manuel Transmission]

Jane, your old phone has a SIM hiding under a cover on the right side. You need a paper clip tip to press into the tiny hole and push to pop it out.

[James D.]

jimmyk, she's certainly got an argument on religious grounds (and given the race-baiting madness on the left these days, maybe on racial grounds, too)

[hrtshpdbox]

the duckduckgo results for "lizard illuminati."

Google results for the phrase look just about identical, fwiw.

[clarice]

Dr J, we knew you were having a hard time, but not this hard. we all sih you and Mrs J the best--speedy and full recoveries.

[hrtshpdbox]

You need a paper clip tip to press into the tiny hole and push to pop it out.

Which should be easier than the double hung window I'm trying to seat on these stupid pulley chains.

[Old Lurker]

Thanks ManTran.

My neighbor has been building a gynormous house next door and I see he installed lightning rods all over the roof, but for the life of me I cannot see how or where they connect to ground. I'd pay for a system YOU designed, but not so much electricians on Nantucket.

No, I have no such system but now, if his is any good, any self respecting bolt will go to his house and skip mine.

I did lose some sleep thinking about all the circuit boards Jack fried, knowing I have as many but would have a hell of a time getting them all replaced.

[Jane]

Ok, thanks ManTran. I’m contacting a kid!

[Melinda]

OL-

Meet "Art" as architecture....

[Extraneus]

It's all being done to get mail-in ballots, Comanche. All the lies, phony data, missing denominators, lockdowns, job losses, destruction of lives & property, outlawing HCQ, all of it.

Over 1,000 CDC employees signed a letter decrying anti-black racism at the CDC. How many of these lefty drones wish for nothing more than for Dems to steal the election? Anyone think they wouldn't shade the data or hide good data, even if it could save lives? Add in every Dem governor, mayor, congressperson, DA, all the way down the line.

Porchlight said it more succinctly, but I don't remember when or I'd have linked her comment instead.

[hrtshpdbox]

Ext, I've heard Daniel Patrick Moynahan had some ethical principles; I'm pretty sure he must've been the last Democrat who did.

[Captain Hate]

CH may have knowledge of that from his 3rd rate power company days.

Negatory on that. Probably the experts on that were in the service centers. If there were any...

[MissMarple2]

For reasons unlnown to me, I am now able to het pn JOM on my phone, so I am able to siy on my front porch and drink lemonade and keep up.

For those familiar with Indianapolis, they are now planning on carving up the Soldiers and Sailors monument in the center of downtown, becausr confederates are on it. Grrr.

[Porchlight]

Prayers offered, DrJ.

[Gentlejim]

DrJ and MrsJ,

Prayers up for you.

[Extraneus]

The only racism or sexism I ever encountered working at a Fortune 500 company and a university was anti-white-male racism and sexism in the form of preferences and set-asides for minorities and women.

[Extraneus]

It was "systemic," btw.

[Gentlejim]

Violet update:
She had her 4th infectious disease procedure today. Report is that it looks like it has quit spreading. 5th procedure on Thursday. If all goes well, ortho and other specialists will step in to see what they can do about her leg due to bone/muscle loss.

[Porchlight]

ManTran, The Bell Curve came out when I was a freshman in college and had a big impact on me. I read something that I found completely reasonable and watched everyone around me go completely insane about it. Set the stage for the rest of my adult life.

[Captain Hate]

For those familiar with Indianapolis, they are now planning on carving up the Soldiers and Sailors monument in the center of downtown, becausr confederates are on it. Grrr.

The anti wisdom of Solomon. Is anyone sane arguing against the lunacy?

[Gentlejim]

OL,
My understanding is that the cable to attach the rods is run through the interior in the attic space. I saw it once on Dirty Jobs.

[henry]

Gj, glad Violet is on the mend!

[Dave (in MA)]

Howie Carr is sitting elbow-to-elbow with his sidekick Grace for their 4PM Newsmax simulcast, so some wiseguy texter said he's going to report them to Charlie 'Parker' Baker for not social distancing. Howie said that the texter doesn't understand, this is not real, it's just TV.

[Captain Hate]

When are the book burnings?

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=389163

[Gentlejim]

👍🏻
🤞🏻

[DrJ]

Thank you all for the good wishes and prayers. We all go through rough patches in life, and I am in on of them.

The good news is that the UC Davis Medical Center does not think MrJ's recent blip is anything more than scar tissue. We'll still have a biopsy done, and that is painful. But it is definitive.

The other good news is that we had a wonderful dinner last night. Dixon lamb Kefta (garden mint), deep fried garden Okra, grilled garden eggplant, white rice, and plain yogurt. It was wonderful.

Dixon is a rural community outside of Davis. Dixon lamb is superb, if you can get it. They well here through WinCo, but I don't know how far their distribution extends.

[Extraneus]

ZH:

White House Folds On Decision Barring Foreign Students From Online-Classes-Only This Fall

[Captain Hate]

Stephanopoulos urges Adam Schiff to impeach Trump over Roger Stone pardon.
Posted by: redridinghood at July 14, 2020 04:20 PM (wiXsO)

[DrJ]

s/well/sell/g

[Dave (in MA)]

You can never have too many impeachments.

[Captain Hate]

Harvard and MIT said in a court filing Tuesday, before the hearing, that they and their students would face "irreparable injury” if an injunction wasn’t granted.

Fuck them. Not happy about this cave job.

[Manuel Transmission]

Porch, I read something that I found completely reasonable and watched everyone around me go completely insane about it. Set the stage for the rest of my adult life.

Exactly! And Murray and his coauthor weren’t even banging on the race drum. Their focus on things like drawing out the smarter people out of their hometowns and off the farms at the detriment of where they left is another hidden gotcha. (I think Murray covered that in his most recent book, but I haven’t read it.)

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

Only talk radio callers. This was a sneak attack by the dems on the Coty Council. Mayor will ok it since he is dem Hogsett, Gore’s campaign mgr.

That monument was erected as a unifying artwork, since the southern part of the state was sympathetic to the South. These people are barbarians and thugs. Also quite a few are white and are just hateful.

[henry]

Assortive mating plus regression to the mean yields a generation of nitwits burning everything down because they can’t earn trophies like their parents. The generation following the Bell Curve debate. Coincidence.

[henry]

Nice neighborhood, Gus.

https://biztimes.com/oconomowoc-lake-home-sold-for-4-35-million/

;)

[Manuel Transmission]

On a related IQ note, I followed a link to ZH a week or two ago, prolly from Iggy, that had some guy posting some very long comments (yeah, I know). I was intrigued enough to copy them onto a Word doc to browse at a later date. About seven pages of fairly clear stuff with lots of links backing up his position. Mainly breaking out IQ by region/country with obvious racial/ethnic connotations.

If I finally get the time to look at it carefully, I’ll post my reactions.

[henry]

Trump on at 5:00 eastern. (Plus usual Trump fridge factor). Press conference.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/live/

[Jane]

Some fun guy just came to the house and sold me $365 worth of steak for $150. Of course I rarely if ever eat steak so you are all invited.

[hrtshpdbox]

...anti-white-male racism and sexism in the form of preferences and set-asides for minorities..

Yes, 60 years of Affirmative Action that discriminated in favor of minorities in college admissions and job selection, and I'll bet you can't find any 20-something blacks who even know it happens (let alone giving America any credit for trying).

[Narciso]

Prayers for them dr j.

[jimmyk]

Prayers for good outcomes for both MrsJ and Violet.

Also pissed about the cave on the foreign students, even though we know some great kids who would have been badly affected by it. The asshoe university administrators shut down live classes needlessly, and without figuring out all the ripple effects. They deserve to have all the bad press they are getting, not to mention legal expenses.

[henry]

When I was planning my PhD dissertation, every single academic job posting led with “women and minorities preferred.” Thus new plan. Back to private sector IT. After Cleveland, how bad could Milwaukee be? (As a place to live / work, I liked Philadelphia and DC, Chicago blew chunks).

[Narciso]

Yes miss marple i cant even get brave to interface on my laptop.

[JimNorCal]

Harvard and MIT said in a court filing Tuesday, before the hearing, that they and their students would face "irreparable injury” if an injunction wasn’t granted.

CH: F*ck them. Not happy about this cave job.

Yeah, esp since that's been the law for a LONG time and was only relaxed temporarily for a couple of terms due to Covid.

[JimNorCal]

So distressing, DrJ.
Wish you the best. My Dad used to say "God won't give you more than you can handle."

It may or may not be true, but it is comforting at times like these ...

[Robin, eff 'em all]

That Zerohedge article about Trump caving on the foreign student visa's doesn't have a link to the AP article. Is that typical for them? The only link is to their original reporting on the student visas.

[Porchlight]

Did ICE cave on the foreign students thing?

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Okay, here's a source:

https://justthenews.com/government/white-house/trump-administration-rescinds-policy-revoke-us-visa-international-student#article

The policy change follows a lawsuit Monday by 17 states and the District of Columbia challenging the policy change. The suit was originally filed by several colleges including Harvard and MIT, according to multiple news outlets.

The federal district judge in Boston who was expected to preside over oral arguments in the Harvard-MIT case, reportedly made the surprise announcement about the policy change at the beginning of the court proceedings Tuesday.

Seventeen states? Wonder which ones.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

The plaintiff states — which include Massachusetts, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New Mexico, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Virginia, and Wisconsin — claim that they will suffer “irreparable harm” if the court doesn’t vacate the rule.

Lots of swing states.