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henry

TM, as if mask mandates are any different than other over regulation in favoring corrupt globalists over innovators.

Jack Lillywhite

What did you think you would get from demented figurehead presidency and a guy who can’t even remember name?

Captain Hate

Back to climate hoaxes?

henry

Back to strangulation via lawfare when slowed down in DC.

Narciso

Sids spawn is who officials bedtime reading for zao yao (chinese dezinforma)

Captain Hate

According to Ceres, regulators can adopt each of its recommendations without new legislation from Congress.

What legislation has the Pelosi congress produced? Between Paul Ryan and her, they've done a superb job of doing nothing.

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/07/22/pompeo-china-bought-who-responsible-british-coronavirus-deaths/

Pompeo accuses a "bought" WHO of being reponsible for the British Coronavirus victims who died.

Extraneus

The climate crisis is over. No amount of regulation could possibly have resulted in more carbon reduction than the economic devastation of the past few months has.

henry

Maybe they should report on the financial impact of the political lurch Of the Democrats towards communism.

Captain Hate

I am getting very pissed on the Media and WHUFLU deaths they have caused.

No treatment once in Hospital about 21% morbidity. With HCQ under 13%. 66% reduction.

FUCK YOU FAUCI!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 22, 2020 10:51 AM (JFO2v)


The MFM refuses to talk about suicide rates and opiate OD's/deaths.

Whuch tells me they are horrific. It breaks my heart.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 22, 2020 10:52 AM (FtO5h)

lyle

Translation:

Our horribly underfunded pension plans would like the US government to force more investors to buy up shares and drive the prices up of companies that are in on this green scam that we own in our funds.

MissMarple2

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6173447838001#sp=show-clips

Dr. Harvey Risch on the war against hydroxychloroquine

Jul. 21, 2020 - 3:48 - Dr. Harvey Risch, epidemiology professor at the Yale School of Public Health, joins Laura Ingraham with insight on 'The Ingraham Angle.'
==========================================
Apparently doctors are being threatened in some states with loss of licenses if they prescribe hydroxychloroquine fo Corononavirus-19. Dr. Risch think this is terrible and so does Laura.

Captain Hate

Yeah it would really break my heart for those teacher's and other public employees' pensions to nosedive.

Old Lurker

James, willowed:

Boris "I don't fail to grasp that there are many small businesses that can't hold out until November, and pretty sure Trump gets that too."

James "Then he needs to fucking LEAD. The campaign geniuses around him need to figure out how to get him airtime in prime time on all the networks, and he needs to surround himself with people like Janice Dean and the SDak governor and whoever else to drive home the goddamn truth and hammer the Dems and the MSM without weasel words and without qualification."


Rather than lead, James, here's an idea: let's pass another Trillion $$$ free money boondoggle to placate the mobs.

LUNACY

What's that you say? Mnuchin is on it already? Trump had to re-scare the people to get it through? Zhazamm.

The question is still on the table: are JOM lethality numbers right or wrong? Answer that, the we can address the quality of decisions our leaders are making.

Old Lurker

Cap'n: "Yeah it would really break my heart for those teacher's and other public employees' pensions to nosedive."

Cap'n, round third base and slide into home as a complete fascist socialist transformation and that problem is solved.

James D.

The MFM refuses to talk about suicide rates and opiate OD's/deaths.

Or increased deaths due to otherwise treatable conditions that went undetected and untreated for going on 6 months now because regular screenings and physicals were cancelled due to the lockdown.

Or the long term psychological harm the lockdown and loss of what’s going to end up being at least a complete year of school will cause for the vast majority of children in this country.

Which is why I’m spitting mad over Trumps surrender speech.

I’m still going to vote for him, of course, but if the cost of him winning is “lowering expectations” and keeping the economy in a coma for 6 more months and further empowering the bureaucrats and the Army of Karens, not sure it’s worth it.

Old Lurker

Brother by another Muther, James.

MissMarple2

John Hayward
@Doc_0
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1h
A lot of U.S. news reports about the closing of the Chinese Communist consulate in Houston sound like they were written in Beijing - or, more to the point, like they were written FOR Beijing.

(Hayward is a writer for Breitbart.)

Old Lurker

James, as Arlington guys, you and I know two things:

Arlington County leaders will take that softball Trump gave them yesterday and drive the stake much deeper in the hearts of taxpayers.

NOBODY in DC with an IQ of 99 has not known forever that the CDC was as active arm of the Prog Army, and NOBODY with eyes since Aids has not known the same about Tony Fauci.

Jane

OL,

When I saw yesterday's presser you were the 1st person I thought of.

The media (Fox) response was that he was so "Presidential" (for a change - in their minds.) And frankly I thought that was the intent. A move to be "presidential" in election time.

I'm not worried about Covid and I doubt Trump is. And I still think he wants the country opened.

If you want to get even more freaked, watch Tucker. I love him but he scares me to death mostly because I think he's right.

Last night he talked about the dems first move if they win back the Senate - to remove the fillibuster. (The dems started it back when they refused to de-segregate) He followed it thru showing that it alone would make sure the the democrats would never lose power, again.

So we have to win in November.

Extraneus

Flight from the Cities: Existing Home Sales Soar Nearly 21%—A Record Shattering Monthly Jump

lyle

complete fascist socialist transformation and that problem is solved.

::tears of admiration well up in seeing the blunt truth in just nine words:: 😬

MissMarple2

https://nypost.com/article/alex-trebek-best-moments-quotes/

Alex Trebek turns 80 today.

peter

If it weren't for JOM, I wouldn't know where to find the truth. But strictly in the comments, not the blog postings themselves. I love our blog-host, but speculating as to what Trump's internal polls are showing? No, Trump, just got a little weak-kneed for a day. The man has the endurance of an ox. Venceremos!

James D.

Trump's speech yesterday was not "Presidential" to me.

To me, it had a very strong tone of Scott Walker - triangluating to maximize re-election chances by pushing all the costs off on his supporters. Maybe that's not what he's doing, but that's sure as hell what it feels like to me.

But it's all of a piece with the idea that he never actually meant "lock them up" and that he's still trying to get along with the people who've been running a coup against him and campaigns of open hatred and economic destruction against his supporters for nearly four years now.

Manuel Transmission

A bit more on the krooked Rinos in Ahia from someone a little closer to the action:

This is State Government at its best. It only gets worse. I do know Neil Clark very well. When I was working on issue 3, the Marijuana Campaign, Neil was on the executive board and we had many meetings with him. He also represented two of my favorite groups Payday Lending and Charter School Funding. This all started with House Bill 6, a Bogus 1.5 Billion bail out for two failing Nuclear Plants that need repair as well give tons of cash to the coal industry and stop all funding for clean energy. One Great Bill. This bail out had the taxpayers pay for it through taxes. Householder set up a 501 (c)4 to hide the cash, pay off former legal bills, buy a new house in Fl., pay off his cronies and then hide the rest of cash so he could run for governor once Dewine term was done. Neil was the enforcer and Matt Borges, a Bexley guy, was just a useful idiot. Hope they all go to Club Fed along with First Energy executives.

MissMarple2

peter,

The President knows very well marketing, presentation,etc.

If he thought he was "weak-kneed" or "surrendering", I am pretty sure he wouldn't have the ENTIRE press briefing here on his Twitter page along with special clips he wanted to highlight in separate tweets:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

I tend to agree with Jane. He was demonstrating he could be "presidential" for the carpers who have spent 3 years huffing and puffing about his tweets and demeanor.

Also, has been pointed out to me by certain people on the internet, he is also a master of misdirection, and uses that skill to his advantage.

MissMarple2

DeAnna Lorraine
Flag of United States
@DeAnna4Congress
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12h
SOURCES:
https://beckershospitalreview.com/data-analytics/florida-covid-19-fatalities-data-included-man-who-died-in-motorcycle-accident.html


*The CDC also include "PRESUMED" COVID-19 deaths.
They also include Pneumonia & the seasonal Influenza in the tally [Facts:CDC admits]

*Plus hospitals are gettng $13K if a COVID-19 patient is admitted, and $39K if the patient goes on a ventilatr

MissMarple2

"The big question is... are these people dying with COVID or from COVID?"@drdavidsamadi explains the confusion surrounding certain cases in our conversation on @newsmax ⬇️ pic.twitter.com/lBYbtL7oMY

— Emma Rechenberg (@EmmaRechenberg) July 21, 2020

Video at link, where Dr. Samadi also points out how the numbers are messed up (on purpose, if you ask me).

sbwaters

As often is the case, I closed down the last thread, albeit with a heart-felt post.

MissMarple2

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/07/21/trump-raises-20-million-from-300000-donors-in-first-ever-virtual-fundraiser/

Captain Hate

along with First Energy executives.

Well, well, well...

Jane

This is very good advice for Trump! By Charlie Kirk.

https://amgreatness.com/2020/07/01/it-is-time-for-trump-to-ask-america-to-think-big/

henry

My brother in Baltimore believes none of the official numbers. Too politicized by both sides.

Old Lurker

Heartfelt perhaps, SBW "You know, OL, if this underlying assumption of yours is mistaken, perhaps others are."

For example, please?

I am often wrong and always like to see where I went astray.

The issue on the table at this moment on this subject is just how lethal is this virus and is the path we are on the the most effective from a cost-benefit point of view? Even if (BIG if in my book) it made the most sense in March, with all the new information, is it still?

Simple as that.

Which assumption is wrong?

Jane

Capt' here is an update on Drudge. Looks like he's sort of still in control:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/07/new-book-matt-drudge-shines-spotlight-reclusive-blogger/

Manuel Transmission

CH, does that happen to be an outfit you are familiar with? :)

MissMarple2

sbwaters,

I went back and read it, seeing your post above.

Well put, and I have every sympathy with your situation.

Neo

The Hill School
https://mobile.twitter.com/sparkledocawake/status/1285904616908115970

MissMarple2

Linda Suhler, PhD (Text TRUMP to 88022) Retweeted
Rep. Greg Pence
@RepGregPence
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10m
COVID-19 was unleashed onto the world by China.

@SpeakerPelosi
now sides with Communist China by calling it the "Trump Virus."

Nancy, we’re both old enough to know what I mean when I say you’ve officially “jumped the shark.”

Captain Hate

Yes indeed, MT.

In 1974, I was hired by the Cleveland Electric Illuminating Company (CEI) which was part of the Central Area Power Coordinating Organization (CAPCO), a group of companies building power plants they jointly owned. Their first plant was Davis Besse in Port Clinton, Ohio operated by Toledo Edison. Then, despite all warnings about what a financial nightmare things could be, CEI Top Men went pedal to the metal on the Perry plant (they'd originally planned on multiple units on the site based on wildly unrealistic growth rates). Then Davis Besse began having big problems and Toledo Edison was taking major pipe. Rather than let financial nature take its course and have the NRC beg CAPCO to fix things with which they'd help, Top Men decided to be proactive and form Centerior Energy, a holding company (there's a specific name I'm drawing a blank on now that specifically categorized it) over the two operating companies. I worked for Centerior from which I eventually walked away after putting up with their crap too fucking long, although I soaked them for an MBA. Centerior was bought out by First Energy.

The "affiliation" (they wouldn't call it a merger) produced a culture clash that never really went away and was handled as badly by Top Men as everything else they touched. I thought it was pretty funny that they were bought out by people they thought were ignorant hicks (the Cleveland versus Akron squabbles are all pretty dumb).

Old Lurker

WSJ "Small Businesses Brace for Prolonged Crisis, Short on Cash and Customers. Hopes for a quick economic recovery from the coronavirus pandemic have been dashed, and companies are exhausting rescue funds. Many are shutting down or slashing jobs..."

sbwaters

OL: Which assumption is wrong?

MM seemed to be able to find it. It's in italics.

Captain Hate

Thanks, Jane; Drudge is oddly reclusive as well as just plain odd.

Old Lurker

Point me to a time stamp and I will gladly go see what she said, SBW.

sbwaters

Look at the bold and tell me that Associated Press hasn’t diminished journalism by including the opinions of reporters and editors — as it is documented back in 2008 that that was what it was going to do. This is an AP story from today, included not as a news report, but to critique in detail the practice that cheapens AP’s brand every day.

Pardon the length. [Also, the bold likely won't copy/paste well.]

Trump says virus in US will get worse before it gets better
By ZEKE MILLER Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump warned on Tuesday that the "nasty horrible'" coronavirus will get worse in the U.S. before it gets better, but he also tried to paint a rosy picture of efforts to conquer the disease that has claimed more than 140,000 American lives in just five months. [ed: This is a scare number without necessary context.]

He also professed a newfound respect for the protective face masks he has seldom worn. He pulled one from his pocket in the White House briefing room but didn't put it on.

After a three-month hiatus from his freewheeling daily virus briefings, Trump returned to the podium, keeping the stage to himself without the public health experts who were staples of his previous events but keeping close to scripted remarks prepared by aides. [ed-Surely Trump, as most presidents, had the final say.]

Besides declaring support for masks as a way to fight the pandemic, he admonished young people against crowding bars and spreading the disease. [ed: asked?]

It all marked a delayed recognition by Trump that the economic reopening he's been championing since April — and, more importantly, his reelection — were imperiled by spiking cases nationwide. [ed: Quite the sweeping opinion presented as news.]

There were no guarantees how long Trump's more measured tone, delivered with an eye to halting a campaign-season erosion of support, would last. [ed: Meaningless speculation and opinion.] Along the way Tuesday, the president still worked in jabs at the news media and Democrats for focusing on disease-fighting shortcomings in the U.S. as the rest of world also struggles with the virus. He also belatedly addressed bipartisan criticism of virus-testing delays that have hampered reopening plans. [ed: Criticism, is necessarily fact, and does not describe what caused delays. In this instance, as Trump said, are related to the mechanics of the tests, not government mismanagement.]

"It will probably unfortunately get worse before it gets better," Trump said from the White House. But he also touted a reduction in deaths and progress on vaccines and treatments for COVID-19, which he referred to repeatedly as a the "China virus." He continued his recent encouragement of Americans to wear masks when social distancing is not possible.

"Whether you like the mask or not, they have an impact," he said. "I'm getting used to the mask," he added, pulling one out after months of suggesting that mask-wearing was a political statement against him. [ed: As it might well have been.]

Swaths of the country are now battling rising infections and growing deaths, and some states are once again having to close businesses and rethink school in the fall. [ed: Deaths are far below what they once were and the mere mention of deaths "growing" does not accurately represent the degree or scope.] Many retailers themselves are insisting their customers don masks.

For months, the nation's top health experts have pleaded with Americans to wear masks in public and steer clear of crowds -- calling those simple steps life-saving -- even as the president's stance fueled a partisan social divide. [ed: And what is a partisan social divide?]

The early evening show at the White House came as the next stage of the federal government's response to the pandemic was being crafted on Capitol Hill. [ed: Show?] Lawmakers and White House officials were opening negotiations on a trillion-dollar-or-more "phase four" rescue package.

For weeks, White House aides have pressed Trump to grow more disciplined in his public statements about the pandemic. [ed: Unattributed conjecture.] On Tuesday, he steered clear of what has been a favored talking point: that widespread testing for the virus in the U.S. "created" more cases, as aides noted that was false and projected a lack of responsibility. [ed: Created or registered. This is a quibble, that seems intended to demean rather than inform.]

Little more than three months from Election Day, Trump and his political team hoped that the podium spotlight would give him an edge against Democratic rival Joe Biden. [ed: Distracting opinion.]

"The vaccines are coming, and they're coming a lot sooner than anybody thought possible," Trump promised anew. [ed: Your point?]

As early as next week, the first possible U.S. vaccine is set to begin final-stage testing in a study of 30,000 people to see if it really is safe and effective. A few other vaccines have begun smaller late-stage studies in other countries, and in the U.S. a series of huge studies are planned to start each month through fall in hopes of, eventually, having several vaccines to use. Already, people can start signing up to volunteer for the different studies.

Health authorities warn there's no guarantee -- it's not unusual for vaccines to fail during this critical testing step. But vaccine makers and health officials are hopeful that at least one vaccine could prove to work by year's end. Companies already are taking the unusual step of brewing hundreds of millions of doses so that mass vaccinations could begin if the Food and Drug Administration signs off.

Trump also acknowledged bipartisan criticism of delays processing testing results.

"We'll be able to get those numbers down," Trump said, saying his administration was working to improve the availability of rapid, point-of-care tests like those used to protect him at the White House. [ed: This wrongly conflates two entirely different kinds of tests, the immediate results test produced since the virus first appeared and only now available in large numbers.]

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top infectious disease expert, told NPR Tuesday that he was glad Trump has begun to promote mask-wearing.

"If we, during those conferences, come out and have consistent, clear, noncontradictory messages, I believe it will be very helpful in getting people on the track of knowing the direction that we need to go to get this pandemic under control," he said. [ed: Unnecessary carping.]

Biden, for his part Tuesday, launched into scathing criticism of Trump as he outlined the latest plank of his economic recovery plan, charging that Trump "failed his most important test as an American President: the duty to care for you, for all of us."

"He's quit on you, he's quit on this country," Biden said. [ed: Meaningless unsubstantiated opinion.]

Earlier Tuesday, Trump took to Twitter to claim that "by comparison to most other countries, who are suffering greatly, we are doing very well — and we have done things that few other countries could have done!"

In fact, the U.S. leads the world in confirmed cases and deaths from the virus -- and ranks near the top on a per capita basis as well. [ed: This does not contradict what Trump said, but was presented in a way that would seem to.]

On Capitol Hill, some Republicans have broken with the White House in seeking additional federal funding for testing and contact-tracing in the next relief bill.

Democratic leader Chuck Schumer, in a news conference, encouraged White House aides to "keep Trump away from the podium," calling the president "a threat to public health." [ed: Irrelevant and unnecessary.]

Trump's daily turns in the White House briefing room largely ended in late April after the president's widely derided suggestion that injecting toxic disinfectant could help treat the coronavirus. The comment prompted widespread medical warnings against the potentially deadly move. [ed: Trump raised a question that was in the news and scientifically legitimate and that the media at the time misrepresented and the misrepresentation is misused yet again.]

Scrapping the briefings was welcomed by aides who believed they were dragging down the president's poll numbers, particularly with older voters. However, with his trademark rallies largely on hold because of the coronavirus, the view in Trump's circle is that he needs an alternate means to reach voters.

And Trump missed the days when he would dominate cable television ratings with his early evening briefings. Tellingly, when he announced Monday that the sessions could return, he did so with an eye toward their time slot and a boast about ratings. [ed: This is news?]

sbwaters

OL, sbwaters | July 22, 2020 at 11:10 AM. End of the last page.

boris

if the cost of him winning is “lowering expectations” and keeping the economy in a coma for 6 more months and further empowering the bureaucrats and the Army of Karens, not sure it’s worth it

Not sure how losing the election would improve the short term or long term viability of the things that are bothering you.

So sorry that China torpedoed the economy, empowered the tyrants, and thrust panic on the population. But you want him to say stuff that wouldn't change that one iota except maybe lose the election.

Jack is Back!

CH,

My old firm built Davis-Besse and it was a tug of war between Toledo Edison, the NRC (ex-AEC), Westinghouse, Ohio Public Service (on rate design to finance the completion), and ourselves in the f#@king middle as always on big nukes.

Then we had to back and replace the Steam Generators, which is no ordinary cut and replace kind of job. We spent 18 months creating a minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day schedule. The word painstaking comes to mind.

But it is the NRC and their institutional fear of the local nuts, environmentalists and other NO-NUKE factions that created the biggest delays which created the over-the-top costs.

James D.

sbw's @ 12:38 is why I said on the last threat that Trump absolutely NEEDS to speak to the whole country from the Oval Office, in prime time, on all the networks, with a supporting cast around him, and directly, forcefully and unambiguously dispel all those lies.

He's got a team of communications and campaign professionals; they need to figure out how to make the networks and CNN and Fox to all give him that time, even if it means lying about what he's going to say beforehand.

jimmyk

Willowed:

I don't expect anyone to want to watch yet another video on COVID, but these guys (Oxford epidemiologists) are the best I've heard. Well worth the 45 minutes. They say all the right things, but are very knowledgeable and authoritative, and say some new things that I haven't heard before. The interviewer (whom we've seen before) is also very good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z3plSbCbkSA

Captain Hate

Jack,

I'd heard from people I trusted that DB should have been a smooth running machine but for all the meddlers interfering.

jimmyk

My point is that he can lower expectations that the virus is going to disappear in two weeks, but at the same time stress the improvement in fatality numbers, the microscopic level of actual risk to anyone under 70 and otherwise healthy, and most important, the need to stop the panic porn and reopen.

Narciso

Yes blank pages all around sbw.

Narciso

So no one except catsmeat has teceived a draft of my novella.

boris

"NEEDS to speak to the whole country from the Oval Office ..."

If there was some grand compelling explanation that enough people would understand ... and ... blue hell major cities would sign on to ... yes okay.

There isn't. We didn't get here with one virus or one blue hell, it's been a long twisted slog.

With close to 50% of the population supporting the side that wants lives lost, small business crushed, and children afraid of the future it's going to take more than a speech.

I'm not sure your speech would lose the election, but it might add to the "Trump doesn't get it, he's come undone" talking point.

For example, it's pretty clear even Maguire would not believe the kind of true facts we accept here coming from Trump or anyone in his supporting cast.

Doubt anyone can explain how Trump can sway TM.

Narciso

Jusy bad data all around


https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1285956932474408965

sbwaters

OL: IF that is the case, do YOU think putting 30 million people out of work and doing all this damage to the economy already and in the future was justified then or justified now?

"If cases bloom in Texas", and if the lethality is what the data we shallow thinkers see is as low as it seems, then SO WHAT?
Simple question.

H.L. Mencken’s original quote in 1921 was, “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem neat, plausible and wrong.”

The more familiar variation is, “For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong.”

When one tries to "simplify" the complex simultaneous equation Trump has to resolve, interrelated issues can disappear.

Trump has to work through three branches of government and the many factions therein, foreign actions that assault us, state leaders with political motives, uncontrolled theatric riots, COVID, and subversive elements of the deep state. As shown above, he has to get messages through despite the media twisting what he says and oppositions hammering him with irrelevancies.

You want to keep it simple? A basic point of Henry Hazlitt: "The wanton destruction of anything of real value is always a net loss." That means any dollar spent by government during wartime (whether military or coronavirus) is a dollar not spent where individuals choose to spend it, undermining their liberty and the liberty of others.

However, some battles not fought now will have to be fought later, likely at a higher price.

Democrat leadership does not care that real buying power is wiped out to the extent that productive power is wiped out because Trump represents an existential threat to their control. Meanwhile, Trump is engaged in a holding action, sometimes advancing and other times selectively retreating, until he hopes he can wrest sufficient control from them in November.

So my answer, OL, is yes. Based on the information he had at the time, and surveying the political map, Trump chose the only practical option available to him that would allow him to pursue the existential threat to our country’s principles and people.

boris

The quotes at Jimmyk's 12:49 link are pretty good if you don't have time to listen to the whole video.

Eg, here's the first ...

2:55 – Masks
• Tom Jefferson: “Aside from people who are exposed on the frontlines, there is no evidence that masks make any difference, but what’s even more extraordinary is the uncertainty: we don’t know if these things make any difference…. We should have done randomised control trials in February, March and April but not anymore because viral circulation is low and we will need huge number of enrolees to show whether there was any difference”.
• Carl Heneghan: “By all means people can wear masks but they can’t say it’s an evidence-based decision… there is a real separation between an evidence-based decision and the opaque term that ‘we are being led by the science’, which isn’t the evidence".
And many more.

sbwaters

I can’t read that Associated Press report and not see how conceited those writers are.

clarice

What I love about Boris--pragmatic.

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

Not new news.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/us-banks-financial-institutions-severing-ties-gun-industry

BUT, consider if you substituted the word “Black” in the story. Would the ship hit the sand, or what?

US banks severing ties with black community.
Even though no laws are being broken by black customers.
Even though black customers are paying back on time.

Where are the GOPe RINOs?

Old Lurker

SBW, so my logic is all wrong because I accused you of not grasping something you think you grasp? (You know, I trust, that just because YOU think you might grasp something, others can question whether you actually do.)

Alrighty then, nice dodge.

My point about now known data/costs/benefits is clear; you imply (or seek to undermine) that my point in chief is wrong and is Monday Morning Quarterbacking, knowing that that phrase is insulting. I ask where my logic is wrong and your answer is I said something you think is untrue about yourself and then suggest all my other points might also be untrue?

Really?

Is most JOM thinking on lethality right or wrong? If you explain why it is wrong, then we can debate that and perhaps arrive at the enlightenment seen only by our elected officials and their useful idiots.

MissMarple2

James D.,

Why you think that President Trump needs to do your bidding, I do not know. Why don't you game out what would happen IF he managed to get air time?

I will give you some of what I think would happen:

1. Networks would make a big deal of negotiating and how powerful THEY are, and would put that as the centerpiece of the story. Ex:"President Trump, weakened by his inept handling of the Coronavirus, pleaded with network executives..."_

2. He would get 5 minutes of negative analysis for every sentence he uttered.

3. While he was speaking, Antifa or some other nefarious group would blow something up and cause the networks to cut to coverage of that incident. He would get blamed for that, too.

4. There are at least 2 tropical storms with the potential to become hurricanes heading for the Gulf, and that would also get coverage.

5. Weak-kneed Trump supporters would do the "Republican" analysis and criticize his position, presentation, etc. In addition, the Chinese would be paying off people to support Biden as a "more suitable spokesperson for the American people".

That's just 5. I could monopolize this page with dozens more.

Narciso


As sharp as a spork


https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/portland-riots-trump-constitution-law-andrew-mccarthy

Jack is Back!

Talk about the loony bin: Active duty Navy "Karen" looses both her cool and most likely her grade and should get a Dishonorable discharge for going off the reservation.

https://twitter.com/JGilliam_SEAL/status/1285740735271231489

Extraneus

They've come for Woody Johnson.

https://www.ganggreennation.com/2020/7/22/21334274/report-woody-johnson-investigated-for-allegations-of-racist-and-sexist-comments

Narciso

The usual fusionists were agita about that.

Narciso


The comey manque in blindspot got his comeuppance


https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1285947408610926592

jimmyk

Flight from the Cities: Existing Home Sales Soar Nearly 21%—A Record Shattering Monthly Jump

My snarky response to stories like this (whether stocks or real estate) is that for every seller there's a buyer. So the question is really at what price? Also, as the article points out, there's a lot of pent-up supply/demand since it was difficult to buy and sell for several months.

I don't doubt that there will be some decline in urban real estate prices, and a decline in construction of new homes and offices, but this seems like another sort of panic porn.

MissMarple2

Canadian scandal seems to have taken a page from the Clinton Foundation:

https://thepostmillennial.com/912-million-trudeau-govt-contract

Headline:

$912 million Trudeau government contract went to real estate holding foundation for WE Charity

lyle

Too bad the bint isn’t a bit better-looking, Jack, cuz she’d prolly have a sweet XiNN gig after her discharge...

lyle

Apologies for using “bint” and “discharge” in the same sentence. 😉

Narciso


Why would they be incognito (ponders)


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dozens-federal-law-enforcement-officers-portland-doxed

Old Lurker

SBW "So my answer, OL, is yes. Based on the information he had at the time, and surveying the political map, Trump chose the only practical option available to him that would allow him to pursue the existential threat to our country’s principles and people."

Does "at the time" mean beginning of March or yesterday afternoon. I have already granted that leaders might have looked at Italy and made a decision others might not have made seeing the same things. That is honest disagreement. At some point pretty early on, the data began to suggest the worst was not happening and yet the direction was not changed, rather it was doubled down and extended.

Jimmy states above: "My point is that he can lower expectations that the virus is going to disappear in two weeks, but at the same time stress the improvement in fatality numbers, the microscopic level of actual risk to anyone under 70 and otherwise healthy, and most important, the need to stop the panic porn and reopen."

I think the message received by the public yesterday, whatever he hoped to convey, was the opposite.

MissMarple2

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/07/22/postmaster-general-dejoy-delivers-on-postal-reform/

Some details in article, more coming later.

lyle

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dozens-federal-law-enforcement-officers-portland-doxed

To quote ace: we’re not voting our way out of this.

MissMarple2

I think the message received by the public yesterday, whatever he hoped to convey, was the opposite.

And if it's not, you are going to do your darndest to make sure it IS the opposite.

Hmph!

Old Lurker

James, welcome to any college campus where any opinion you might question invites scorn. Who do you think you are young man?

:-)

MissMarple2

Charlie Kirk
@charliekirk11
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Shameful:

Ivan Robles Navejas, an illegal alien who Barack Obama & Joe Biden refused to deport for a DUI in 2016 just killed three Americans—including a veteran and a retired police officer

These three men could still be alive had Biden & Obama put America first.

Narciso


Dialing past the ambien noise


https://mobile.twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1285988407655596034

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

"ambien noise"

The sleeping/snoring MSM?

For some reason this tickled me.

henry

Trump will say something at a 5:30 news conference. After a 3:15 on urban violence. Which interpretation is his? Fear pron, or improvement in treatment numbers?

The snowball of economy crushing lockdown grows unabated either way.

Narciso

Its from the late ricky jay, in a generally average bond film

Narciso

Ah i see, snorfle.

henry

Science vs Fauci. Pick one.

@alexberenson

Hey, look, a “country level analysis” today in a crummy little journal called @thelancet says “full lockdowns and widespread testing were not associated with reduced COVID-19 mortality.” Whoopsie! Everybody makes mistakes. thelancet.com/journals/eclin…

https://twitter.com/alexberenson/status/1285990215920881670?s=21

James D.

MM @ 1:14

Everything you say would definitely happen. No question. But i think he still needs to do it. Because there are a lot of people out there who need to hear a clear, loud voice, saying directly - not just over twitter - the same things they're thinking and feeling. Especially when they're living under lockdowns, their schools are closed for the fall, they're having to obey stupid and tyrannical mask rules, etc etc etc.

Morale of the "troops" is important.

lurkersusie

SUNY Binghamton

AllianceDefends
@AllianceDefends
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1h
#BREAKING: SUNY officials assist antagonist mob in disrupting event, silencing conservative guest speaker

Read more: http://adfmedia.org/News/PRDetail/11058

Captain Hate

They still take playing the footballs seriously at Porch's employer

https://www.rollbamaroll.com/2020/7/17/21329056/nsfw-its-meltdown-time-texas-is-back-edition-the-brockermeyer-twins-pick-bama

Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA

From the back thread, I think OL asked this:
"By all of the data that has been seen since the panic started, it APPEARS that Covid is dangerous to clearly identified but small groups of the population, but to all the rest is not much worse than the seasonal flu."

My question is to TK, if/when he stops in again.
I'm glad that your wife's case is less severe so far and hope that continues to be the case.
But, speaking of you: do you feel you were in danger of losing your life? Are you in a high risk group? Is there danger to you of permanent damage? Was this a bad flu or a BFD?
In short: have we at JOM been underestimating the seriousness of WuFlu? (Speaking just from your personal experience).

lyle

https://issuesinsights.com/2020/07/22/the-big-surge-in-coronavirus-deaths-is-a-media-fed-myth/

jimmyk

Anyone else amazed by the wimpiness of a slew of pro athletes who don't want to compete because of the scary virus? I can excuse some who have medical conditions like diabetes, but the rest? Last I saw 13 MLB players were opting to sit out the 2020 season. Only one I read of has diabetes. Even more pathetic are tennis players contemplating sitting out the US Open. Tennis is not a contact sport. They don't need to be within 10 feet of any human.

Porchlight

Classic Alabama, Cap'n.

Porchlight

Sadly, jimmyk, wimpiness is fast becoming the norm (at least for the folks who speak up).

I'm surprised it was only 13.

The tennis is particularly pathetic, however.

henry

Hubris, the unbreakable dam. Deformation makes it stronger.

https://asiatimes.com/2020/07/three-gorges-dam-deformed-but-safe-say-operators/

lyle

Read this, then, jimmyk:

https://www.redstate.com/tladuke/2020/07/22/we-should-just-cancel-the-nfl-season-to-save-lives-also-for-the-children/

It’s good.

MissMarple2

LORI HENDRY
@Lrihendry
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Bill de Blasio's wife can't account for $850 Million dollars a staggering amount of taxpayer money that the NY Mayor gave her for her mental health project

President Trump should launch a federal investigation.
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I would support that if he had the authority to do it, which I am not sure he does.

Captain Hate

Zhang Shuguang, director of the Three Gorges Corp’s Hub Management Bureau, echoed Wang’s judgement, saying nothing could topple the dam in the next 500 years and that not one of the 12,000 sensors fitted throughout the humongous concrete barrier had ever flashed red on the central control panel.

Those famous good news only sensors? Or did he mean censors? Inscrutable Chinese...

peter

So apparently yesterday's deplatforming of several conservative blogs on Google only lasted a few hours. A dry run for November? Or during the debates?

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