Blown Away!

So electricity, cable and cell service is all disrupted in most of my town. I can get online intermittently from a secure remote location. The normal sounds of suburbia have been replaced by the roar of generators and chainsaws. First world problems!

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[Neo]

Got a lot of rain, but my trees were pre-diastered so I was spared the rest.

[MissMarple2]

Partly cloudy here and in the 70's. Amazing weather for the Midwest in August, when it's usually 90 degrees with 95% humidity.

The big news from the New York AG is that she has filed a lawsuit against the National Rifle Association, seeking to dissolve it for not using their money charitably.

Leftists on Twitter are crushed, as they were SURE this was going to GET TRUMP!!

[Jane]

Hope it gets better soon TM! Is it hot up there?

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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20m
Upon departing the Oval Office for Ohio, I’ve notified my staff to continue working on an Executive Order with respect to Payroll Tax Cut, Eviction Protections, Unemployment Extensions, and Student Loan Repayment Options.

[Melinda]

Jonathan Turley
@JonathanTurley
NY AG James just declared that she will suing to dissolve the NRA for self-dealing. foxnews.com/politics/new-y… Previously, James declared the NRA a "terrorist organization." It is hard not to see this as a political agenda in search of a legal rationale. jonathanturley.org/2019/09/08/ter…

https://twitter.com/JonathanTurley/status/1291409233842495491

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Will never forget the convoys of power trucks from as far away as Florida as we drove up the 95 right after Hurricane Gloria hit. It is amazing what can happen when the professionals know what they are doing.

[peter]

Dictators gotta dictate:

https://www.lohud.com/story/news/local/2020/08/05/cuomo-investigate-utilities-storm-response-outages/3299686001/

Cuomo blames utilities for slow response to storm. Whatever happened to blaming climate change?

[Old Lurker]

Mel "OL- No, because shut up."

Zactly what I thought, Mel.

[Old Lurker]

YL2 and family in next town up from TM (New Canaan) told to expect no power for about a week. So they are off to the other G'parents until it is safe to return.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

There is an interesting video posted to the Zero Hedge page in FB showing an inbound object seconds before the Beirut blast. No idea if it is doctored, but....

[Narciso]

It might as well be cuneiform or heiroglyphs

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1291401185581244417

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Dewine tests positive for Covid. I can hear the laughter from CH from here...

[Narciso]

Very dark humor stephanie.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-to-sign-order-in-ohio-requiring-government-to-buy-us-made-essential-medicines

[Manuel Transmission]

Missed the discussion last night re the Beirut explosion. One of the video clips buried deep in one of the tweets was taken from a car on an elevated highway that I would estimate was about a mile or so from ground zero. They were obviously recording the initial column of fire. When the Big Bang happened, the shockwave was almost instantaneous, not ~5 seconds later. It shattered the glass and fired off the side airbag. Mach 5?

[Extraneus]

It is hard not to see this as a political agenda in search of a legal rationale.

See the McCloskeys and many more examples going back to Tom DeLay, and this will be the rule going forward. Whether we like it or not, there's a war on, they no longer feel restrained, and they have enough judges to back them up.

Anyone not in good graces with the left needs to get out of leftist-run areas. It's surprising that the NRA is a NY entity. Let this be a warning to all other conservative organizations: get out of left-controlled areas now.

[MissMarple2]

Retweeted by the President. Link goes to a 15-second clip of President Trump giving Biden hell for insulting the Black Community.

President @realDonaldTrump: “Joe Biden, this morning, totally disparaged and insulted the Black community” by saying Latinos have diversity of thought, unlike Black Americans pic.twitter.com/Db4D90xbWi

— Team Trump (Text TRUMP to 88022) (@TeamTrump) August 6, 2020

[MissMarple2]

Just departed for the Great State of Ohio! pic.twitter.com/vAg0tdRFP8

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 6, 2020

Link goes to 15-second video of Marine One.

[Buckeye]

DeWine has Covid-19

[Captain Hate]

Dewine tests positive for Covid. I can hear the laughter from CH from here...

God has a wicked sense of humor.

[Buckeye]

I see Stephanie beat me to it.

I’m smiling too CH.

[Sammy Small]

The NRA lawsuit is just more harrassment from Soros DA's and the like, all just part of "resist".

I don't doubt for a minute that should DJT not be elected president in November, this kind of harrassment will only ramp up. Is there any doubt that Dems would prosecute him and his family relentlessly for a myriad of charges until something sticks. GOPe will sit by idly and protect their six.

[Barbara]

I opened Facebook to find a notice that they had removed a post that I had "Liked" because the WHO says it isn't true. I can't even remember the post or article, and of course since it's been deemed untrue by the WHO I'll never find out what it was that I'm not supposed to know. Imagine that happening in a free society.

Two key things: 1) the WHO with its less than stellar record determines what can be posted on Facebook; 2) This seems like a trial test. I expect that Facebook will increase the policing of its precious pages. COVID-19 has given these Internet gurus, broadcasting and government an interesting test case on how to manipulate the masses.

[rse]

https://cms.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/08/president-trump-our-only-hope-frontpagemagcom is very
good.

Update on dad-

I noticed his hands, fingers, and under his fingernails were deep purple yesterday. We are not supposed to touch the residents, but as I had mentioned I had taken stuffed pilot bear and a biplane and gotten permission to put the bear in his lap. Retrieving it was the perfect stealth way to check the temp of his hands. Cold.

He has also lost another 10 pounds in the last two weeks despite eating, which my mom doesn't understand. She does get that if I tell her it is called cachexia and happens in alzheimers as well as cancer and has been discussed all over the world, ESPECIALLY by at-home caregivers who are mystified as they know for sure what is being consumed that I can prove it.

I think she would rather blame the facility for not looking out for him than facing the inevitability of a process that cannot be stopped. I am sharing in case anyone else is in a similar situation during these lockdowns. We are lucky his facility has an outdoor covered patio where loved ones can be visited without anyone actually entering facility or residents leaving.

If anyone has any experience with timing after limbs start to go purple, even though the color drained after hospice massaged his hands. Mom thought it was a new development and it had been 2 weeks since I saw him and he said Hi to Pat the Bunny. Apparently though my brother noticed it last week and just didn't want to alarm my mom.

[mike in houston]

OL

Growing up in New Canaan, we had many blackouts. Usually during ice storms. One I remember lasted for 5 days. We never left home, we just muddled through. By the way, if your grand children become interested in horses, below is a real hidden gem located in NC. I learned to ride there.

https://vimeo.com/371645567

[hrtshpdbox]

rse's article at 1:10 is very good indeed. Loved this photo of Trump coming home from work at 2 am.

[peter]

I did not realize until I read the article at American Spectator, but the Floyd autopsy report is available publicly.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

[Rocco]

May God Bless you and your family rse. In my thoughts and prayers.

[Jane]

RSE,

Sounds like a very hard time. I'm so sorry.

[GUS]

This "STORM" in CATCHERS MITT NY.......was it a cat 5 Hurricane like Hurricane Sandy????
Remember that "Hurricane" that was a TROPICAL STORM, not a hurricane? HYPE-O-RAMA.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Do we have any actual stats on how lethal the surge in positive cases has been or how serious the hospitalizations are now?--

I'm not doing any deep dives but as I stated before, positive tests AKA 'cases' peaked in the US in mid July at more than double the April peak. Deaths appear to have peaked Aug 1st at about half the prior April peak.
Hospitalizations peaked around July 11th, much lower than the previous peak in April.

[GUS]

Ig, why are you so interested in facts. It's all about the FEAR PORN

[Jane]

Sturbridge has been out of power for 3 days. Of course, since Megan's graduation party is this weekend. Sheesh - what a year for her!

[JimNorCal]

TM: "electricity, cable and cell service is all disrupted in most of my town"

Our peter reported a, what, 12 hour outage?
And TheNewNeo put up a whole post about her lengthy outage (I think she's in MA though).

Anyway, plenty of serious outages in the East.

[rich]

sandy was a strong cat 3 when it was smacking around the carribean then weakened to a cat 1 by the time it hit nj. it was certainly massive and a rain maker but nj corruption and incompetence was the bigger disaster.

take a look at some pictures of kendell fl after andrew to see what hurricanes can actually do.

[Buford Gooch]

So sorry RSE. It's a tough time.

[Captain Hate]

Not to take utilities off the hook but with all the clean energy nuisances to put up with the maintenance schedule of the distribution system is always the easiest to cut.

[JimNorCal]

About outages: come to think of it, it's not really just the East. Last year and this, for example, our PG&E has told us to prepare for outages of up to a week during fire season.
Hasn't happened yet but could at any time.

Maybe we'll get Biden in November and "progress" from electricity to candles ...

[hoyden]

Would it be cool if the new thread announcement has a link to the new thread? iPhone users deep in the thread get repetitive finger hurt scrolling back to the top.

[peter]

Much of my neighborhood is still without power. Some very large, very old trees got knocked down. Wasn't that big a storm; moved through quickly but there were some very intense gusts that did a lot of damage. I am not really sure what can be done to prevent disruptions, short of putting all power lines underground.

[Melinda]

ABOwarrior⭐️⭐️⭐️
@ABOwarrior
What are the odds that the NRA is suddenly in the news the same day this 👇👇👇 happens?

No coincidences. 😎

James O'Keefe @JamesOKeefeIII
BREAKING: I have just filed a lawsuit against the @FBI for infringing upon my 2nd Amendment Right to Bear Arms.

They have erroneously put me on the Federal NICS Background Check System as a convicted felon.

The problem? I am NOT a convicted felon.

https://twitter.com/ABOwarrior/status/1291412698295664642

But I bet someone has a little list....

[Melinda]

Ryan Mac 🙃 @RMac18
14m
Facebook employees are worried about whether Trump would use the social network to invalidate the results of the 2020 presidential election. They want Zuckerberg to answer their question about it at today's all-hands meeting which is happening right now.

buzzfeednews.com/article/craigs…

Our story also outlines employee concerns that the co is giving preferential treatment to right-wing pages and publishers. In some cases, employees on internal forums said that Facebook's policy team got involved to reduce fact-check penalties. buzzfeednews.com/article/craigs…

Some examples. A FB employee found Joel Kaplan, the co's VP of public policy, personally flagged a fact check of a Charlie Kirk Instagram post for resolution.

In another case, a partner manager for PragerU argued the page should not be factchecked because it ran a lot of ads.

Zuckerberg is currently talking at the all-hands meeting right now about leaks.

"Part of that culture means we need to take a pretty heavy hand when people violate that trust," he says, threatening to fire leakers. He said someone was already fired for leaking this week.

https://twitter.com/RMac18/status/1291436916986933249

[sbwaters]

Hoyden, add the main JOM url to your favorites.

[Narciso]

So sorry to hear that rse

[Melinda]

Adam Housley
@adamhousley
I'm told the raids from Cleveland and Miami are all about Ukraine money laundering. Billions stolen. It's big deal. Money stolen from USAID.

https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1291249769172439040

[lyle]

https://www.redstate.com/mike_miller/2020/08/06/still-bucking-the-system-rand-paul-says-gop-should-apologize-to-obama-—-heres-why/

You’ll have to click to find out.

[lyle]

Best of luck, rse.

[Melinda]

Largest ever single site worksite enforcement? Do tell....

https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/USDHS/bulletins/2991447

[JimNorCal]

Mask humor, in case you know someone who would enjoy some smiles.
https://youtu.be/qGYQU1WRGxI

[Dave (in MA)]

"Ukraine" so it must be something about Trump. IMPEACH! His poll numbers were never higher than when he was in the middle of getting impeached, so I wonder if there's some sort of form he could fill out to request some more impeachments?

[lyle]

You HAVE TO watch this:

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/08/06/my-best-friends-are-black-im-a-democrat-video-showing-karen-as-a-white-middle-aged-liberal-hillary-supporter-is-epic-watch/

[henry]

Hoyden, on an iPhone or iPad if you touch the top bar (in Safari), you go to the top of the current page. No scrolling needed.

[henry]

Switch on Iran. Eliot Abrams subbed in.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/06/top-us-diplomat-for-iran-resigns-ahead-of-un-arms-embargo-vote.html

[Dave (in MA)]

Melinda | August 06, 2020 at 02:36 PM MAGA

[Melinda]

Mark R. Levin
@marklevinshow
HUGE Life, Liberty & Levin this Sunday on Fox, 8 PM eastern: I will be interviewing Attorney General Bill Barr for the entire hour. Hope you and your family and friends watch! If you can't watch it Live, DVR the show. See you then!
foxnews.com/media/mark-lev…

https://twitter.com/marklevinshow/status/1291414029752295424

[hrtshpdbox]

Our story also outlines employee concerns that the co is giving preferential treatment to right-wing pages and publishers.

Can you imagine just how far left these Facebook employees must be to discern a right-wing bias at...Facebook?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Not to take utilities off the hook but with all the clean energy nuisances to put up with the maintenance schedule of the distribution system is always the easiest to cut.--

I remember reading a few weeks ago that the dumbass green power MANDATES PG&E was forced to "invest" in not only caused our power to cost twice as much, or more, as neighboring states it also squeezed the maintenance budget until it was about a 30-1 ratio.
That's effin prog coercion all over; sky high rates, crappy service and product, perverse incentives, unintended consequences and even worse intended ones and terrible maintenance and in this case with deadly consequences. And when their choices to coerce the private sector blow up, they pretend they're the enforcers to protect the people from the greedy old capitalists and robber barons and murderers.
They always deliver the worst of all possible worlds and yet they sucker enough people to keep hanging around.
I'm thinking I may replace Edmund Burke, George Washington and Von Mises` as my political and economic role models and just advocate the Hulagu Khan route from now on.

[lyle]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2020/08/06/vp-pence-says-something-about-justice-john-roberts-that-every-conservative-knows-n2573846

[Extraneus]

35-Year-Old Florida Roofer Struck by Lightning Listed as Coronavirus Fatality

[peter]

As you know, the cultural civil wars have changed many of our habits. I, for example, have stopped watching major league baseball. I also have stopped reading Jalopnik, a website of goofy New York based car enthusiasts, because they accused the owner of another car buff website called Petrolicious, of being a racist. His crime? He posted on Facebook his opinion that BLM was a domestic terrorist organization. Petrolicious is a pretty cool site, so I haven't missed Jalopnik at all. However, I learned that the Petrolicious founder is now a victim of cancel culture and was forced to sell the website. You can read about it here.

https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/petrolicious-founder-steps-down-tries-to-sell-site-after-blm-comments#:~:text=Car%20aficionados%20close%20to%20Afshin,advocating%20bullets%20for%20%E2%80%9Cliberals.%E2%80%9D

[hrtshpdbox]

Andrew Weissmann warns that Barr's investigation into Russiagate will violate policy that no actions be influenced by politics (and it's too soon to the election, per Weissmann, for any actions to be otherwise). Soooooo rich, must really be one of those "over the target" things.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/top-mueller-prosecutor-urges-doj-officials-to-resist-barr-investigations

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Weissman rises near the top of my Hulagu list.

[jimmyk]

I remember reading a few weeks ago that the dumbass green power MANDATES PG&E was forced to "invest" in not only caused our power to cost twice as much, or more, as neighboring states it also squeezed the maintenance budget until it was about a 30-1 ratio.

I get the impression, though, that PG&E and other utilities are hardly putting up much of a protest, and seem in fact to be enthusiastic masochists, similar to the car manufacturers. So I can't feel to sorry for them. It's like they're all afraid of the mob.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The funny thing is the NRA is by almost all standards the most conciliatory and least junkyard doggy of the 2nd amendment orgs.
If that dingbat NY AG did succeed in dissolving the NRA she would like even less what would fill the vacuum.
In fact, not a few of the other orgs and gunowners agree with her criticism that it largely exists as a lavish club for the fossils inhabiting its upper echelons. That's what led to the Cincinnati revolt in the 70s, but eventually the new boss met the old boss in the mirror.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--It's like they're all afraid of the mob.--

They are so much at the mercy of the state mob of regulators and mandates and rate setters that they are only nominally quasi-private. They have no choice.
That's a lot more of an excuse than silicon valley and most other woke private enterprises who do it voluntarily.

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! We haven't lost power here in the woods during storms,because there is a huge substation on the main road to support the nearby chip mills. The yards are full of logs this summer,so the lack of paper products should ease up. :) PPE takes priority over Lysol/Clorox wipes,that shortage might continue. The main road was paved earlier this summer,so the logging trucks going into the yards have a super speedway to drive on,I keep my distance!

[Jim Eagle]

Weissmann reminds me of my oil change rag: filthy, slimy, and used.

[Extraneus]

Tom DeLay, Ted Stevens, Eric Greitiens, Exxon Mobil, Michael Flynn, now the NRA.

Has our side ever taken out an innocent political enemy? James is right that unilateral adherence to Marcus of Queensbury rules can't work. It's a show of weakness that only whets their appetites. Severe pain is what's called for.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Severe pain is what's called for.--

That's the Hulagu model. He was the Mongol so ruthless that the Assassins surrendered their supposedly impregnable redoubt without a fight, but with a fine whimper, on the promise he wouldn't slaughter them all.

[Melinda]

It's global, just as a reminder:

Al Jazeera News
@AJENews
Rescue of 35 child workers triggers probe in India's factory hub aje.io/yhkyp

https://twitter.com/AJENews/status/1291469333512753169

[Jane]

Hell of a speech by Trump. All of it political - which probably freaked some people out.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

We have some amazingly strong and compassionate people here, including you rse. As each of us goes through the trials of life it is important to note that in our own way we have a support network.

For the first time since this meshuggeh mess began I was both depressed and stir crazy the other day.

Then I realized that I am setting out on an epic road trip next week. The kids have scattered to the Colorado Rockies in one case and Whitefish, MT in the other. Both invited me up.So it will be Zion, Bryce, Capital Reef, Moab, Yellowstone, Jackson Hole and Glacier. Going to try and talk to as many folks as possible along the way and get a feel for what is going on out there.

[Melinda]

Thursday cooking humor:

Tracy Beanz @tracybeanz
11m
........So Yates and Rice now? Lol.

Bo Snerdley @BoSnerdley
Former DoJ spokesman says Sally Yates likely on Biden's shortlist for AG bizpacreview.com/2020/08/06/for… via @BIZPACReview >><> Yeah. And Hunter is probably on his short list to head up our trade delegations.

@Michael_Haz
Replying to @tracybeanz
At leasts with Rice the ticket is balanced. A vegetable and a carbohydrate.

I’ll give myself a timeout now.

https://twitter.com/Michael_Haz/status/1291468441115918336

[Marlene]

Matt,have a great trip! Our trip to Jackson Hole/Yellowstone two summers ago gave us an incentive to travel west gain. Then 2020 happened. :( So,maybe 2021 will be the year.

[peter]

Matt-awesome trip.

rse, your family is in my prayers.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

LOL, Mel.

[Marlene]

*again* Jane,how was your follow-up appointment?

[Extraneus]

Michelle Obama: Coronavirus an Opportunity to Change ‘How Wealth Is Distributed’

[Extraneus]

Nevada, Michigan Declare Racism a Public Health Crisis

Colorado has also moved to declare racism a public health crisis, the Denver Post reported.

[Jim Eagle]

Well, Michelle, we can start with your $13.5million ocean estate on Martha's Vineyard. How about 5X$30K condo's split out of the main house? You know, affordable housing and all that, you brain dead pseudo-elistist.

[Jim Eagle]

Nevada, Michigan Declare Racism a Public Health Crisis

Colorado has also moved to declare racism a public health crisis, the Denver Post reported.

Ex, when you think about it, most of those face masks are "white".

[sbwaters]

Michelle Obama: Coronavirus an Opportunity to Change ‘How Wealth Is Distributed’

Hey, Mooch! Wealth isn’t ‘distributed’. It is ‘created’. Those who would ‘distribute’ wealth, destroy the incentive to create more.

Those who would ‘distribute’ wealth actually covet power, because creating wealth has lifted more people out of poverty than any posturing socialist ever.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
2h
Just like Radical Left New York is trying to destroy the NRA, if Biden becomes President your GREAT SECOND AMENDMENT doesn’t have a chance. Your guns will be taken away, immediately and without notice. No police, no guns!

[Jane]

Sounds great Matt! Can't wait to hear about it.

[Jane]

Marlene,

Too much gas in it to see what's happening. He told me not to be too optimistic, and I told him I got there when the 3rd surgery didn't work. I'll see him next week so he may be able to see the macular, maybe not. He's going to VT on vacation so it's a week early. I'm not expecting anything. Just want it to be over.

[Extraneus]

So anyway, having found out how much power they have during a health emergency, we thought they'd declare climate change to be the next one. Wrong. Racism, an even sillier baseless idea, and they didn't even wait for COVID to be over.

[Jane]

I'm not sure Moochelle has been to the Vineyard altho the daughters have. My friend is determined to meet them for cocktails - he's their next door neighbor and as conservative as me, but much nicer and a big CEO. he'a been there every weekend, but hasn't seen them yet. But "next door neighbor" is pretty far apart.

[Extraneus]

Top Democrats contemplate civil war if Biden loses

‘Mr Podesta, playing Mr Biden, shocked the organizers by saying he felt his party wouldn’t let him concede. Alleging voter suppression, he persuaded the governors of Wisconsin and Michigan to send pro-Biden electors to the Electoral College.

‘In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr Trump took office as planned.’

...

‘The Biden campaign encouraged Western states, particularly California but also Oregon and Washington and collectively known as “Cascadia” to secede from the union unless Congressional Republicans agreed to a set of structural reforms to fix our democratic system to ensure majority rule. With advice from President Obama, the Biden Campaign submitted a proposal to 1) give statehood to Washington, DC and Puerto Rico; 2) divide California into five states to more accurately represent the population in the Senate; 3) require Supreme Court Justices retire at 70; and 4) eliminate the Electoral College, to ensure the candidate who wins the popular vote…’

...

‘One of the most consequential moves was that Team Biden on January 6 provoked a breakdown in the joint session of Congress by getting the House of Representatives to agree to award the presidency to Biden (based on the alternative pro-Biden submissions sent by pro-Biden governors.) Pence and the GOP refused to accept this, declaring instead that Trump was re-elected under the Constitution because of his Electoral College victory. This partisan division remained unresolved because neither side backed down, and January 20 arrived without a single president-elect entitled to be Commander-in-Chief after noon that day. It was unclear what the military would do in this situation.’

I know we had already discussed this a bit, but does anyone think they're just kidding?

[JimNorCal]

Looking fwd to Matt's reports!

[caro]

Matt! We will be in St. George, Utah, just before Zion, by Wednesday evening, the 12th. Would love to meet you.

[Jim Eagle]

In my LeMay days as an officer in SAC, I know exactly how the military would react in that situation. 7 Days in May would be eclipsed to One day in January.

[Captain Hate]

--It's like they're all afraid of the mob.--

They are so much at the mercy of the state mob of regulators and mandates and rate setters that they are only nominally quasi-private. They have no choice.
That's a lot more of an excuse than silicon valley and most other woke private enterprises who do it voluntarily.

Nominally quasi private is right. The good news is you get a mostly captive market. The bad news is everything else.

[boris]

"does anyone think they're just kidding?"

IMO their fantasy of revenge for losing the 1st civil war.

[Dave (in MA)]

Big Mike told the NPR hack that she's been having "low grade depression".

Wonder if she's been tested for low-T?

[Old Lurker]

Ig, thanks for the comment about case peaks etc.

Before the surge, I was very good at dismissing the whole thing as a nothing burger except for the well know risk groups. As others said "Very serious for some; not at all for virtually everybody else".

That line was gathering steam, so all of a sudden it was drowned about my Oh NO...cases are skyrocketing.

If my previous conclusion that it is a nothing burger (except for those groups), then I continue to say "So F*king What?" Until it burns as far though the population as it will, this will not end. So let it burn, baby.

[Melinda]

Well now this is an interesting little bit of history:

CDC Director Robert Redfield: the letter that should have destroyed his career

Long before Robert Redfield ascended to the CDC directorship, and also assumed a key post on the White House COVID Task Force, he was a US Army researcher working on an AIDS vaccine.

He ran into a great deal of trouble. His career was almost derailed. The Army finally saved him, through what some investigators assert was a complete whitewash.

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/05/cdc-director-redfield-letter-should-have-destroyed-his-career/

[Old Lurker]

Ext "...‘In that scenario, California, Oregon, and Washington then threatened to secede from the United States if Mr Trump took office as planned.’..."

Sounds like Br'er Rabbit and the Brier Patch to me.

[Melinda]

The money quote::

"“We are writing to request that your Subcommittee hold a hearing, as soon as possible, to investigate charges of grave impropriety committed by U.S. Department of Defense’ AIDS researchers. We have obtained Internal memoranda, not previously made public, from the Department of Defense that allege a systematic pattern of data manipulation, inappropriate statistical analyses and misleading data presentation by Army researchers in an apparent attempt to promote the usefulness of the GP160 AIDS vaccine…The Phase I and Phase II studies in which this alleged misconduct occurred were conducted by researchers at the Walter Reed Army Institute of Research (WRAIR), led by Lt. Col. Robert Redfield, M.D., Chief of the Department of Retroviral Research, and misleading results from these trials were reported in…the New England Journal of Medicine in June 1991, the Journal AIDS Research and Human Retroviruses in June 1992 and the annual International AIDS Conference in Amsterdam in July 1992. In addition, overstated conclusions have been presented on two occasions at hearings before your Subcommittee."

[lyle]

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stacey-lennox/2020/08/06/the-good-news-the-media-and-our-health-experts-are-hiding-about-covid-19-n759558

A little deep into the body’s biochemistry but worth a read. We’re being lied to. BIG TIME.

[sbwaters]

does anyone think they're just kidding?

They can bluster all they want before the election. That’s First Amendment latitude.

Now, after Democrats losing the election, such conversation would have a different meaning and be treated a different way.