AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial On Pause

A participant in the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine trial has developed a dire inflammatory disease which can be a result of infection, or, er, things that mimic infection, such as vaccines.

The program is on pause pending a safety review. Obviously they are not un-vaccinating anyone, but no new patients will get jabbed. And since the protocol (in the US anyway) calls for two vaccinations 4 weeks apart, a long safety pause will disrupt that timing for those awaiting their second shot.

Derek Lowe has more.

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[Narciso]

So septembwr 11th, because a whole of scorpions were let loose not only by saudis but yemen an othet places. Iraq was perhaps a small part with the baloch cell,

[JimNorCal]

I wondered if TM would remember 9/11 and put up a thread.

[JimNorCal]

A commenter at the New Neo:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/wine/article/Napa-locals-go-cowboy-bulldozing-fire-15520327.php
Matt Weinert is used to driving a bulldozer through rugged terrain. As the owner of High Demand Earth Work in Napa Valley, he specializes in clearing land so that vineyards can be planted. But now, Weinert can add another special skill to his bulldozing resume: stopping wildfires.
When the Hennessey Fire ignited in Napa’s eastern hillsides on Aug. 17, Weinert and his crew were at Ovid Vineyards, in the middle of a job clearing 25 acres of rock for a new vineyard. Suddenly, they could spot smoke rising from the other end of Pritchard Hill, behind Chappellet Winery.
The Ovid team reached out to Cal Fire, but “with so many fires up and down the state, we knew they’d be stretched pretty thin,” said General Manager Jack Bittner. It soon became clear that if they wanted to keep the Hennessey Fire from advancing, they would have to fight it themselves.
“We didn’t have any expectation that the cavalry was coming,” Bittner said.
What Weinert and a neighboring vineyard-development crew accomplished over the next few days was extraordinary: Using their bulldozers, they cleared chaparral, brush and other vegetation to create a nearly 4-mile firebreak across Pritchard Hill. They saved some of Napa’s most prestigious wineries like Chappellet, Ovid, Colgin, Bryant and Continuum — and kept the fire from moving further into Napa Valley.
They weren’t the only ones to effect a rogue, community-firefighting operation in Napa County last week.
…
It’s “cowboy activities,” as Dunn called them, and controversial. Though these rogue efforts largely succeeded, Cal Fire does not condone residents defying evacuation orders, and there are air-pollution regulations surrounding certain types of heavy machinery. Removing trees, too, can raise environmental concerns.
I had to look twice to make sure it wasn’t a post from the Babylon Bee.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Ig, sorry you were probs just making a joke.--

Not at all, ccgirl;

lululemon was founded in 1998 by Chip Wilson in Vancouver, British Columbia,[5] and sold its first pair of yoga pants that year.[6] Wilson created the name to have many L's so that it would sound western to Japanese buyers, who often have difficulty pronouncing the letter.[7]

Founder Chip Wilson has made numerous controversial statements that have been widely derided as offensive. In a 2004 interview, Wilson mocked Japanese pronunciation of the company's name.[37]

First footnote is to a Business Insider article quoting him and the second is to a Financial Times article. Sounds a lot more fun than the current virtue signalling dunces.

[BeastsEngland]

’They saved some of Napa’s most prestigious wineries like Chappellet, Ovid, Colgin, Bryant and Continuum.’

All wines matter. But thanks for saving Colgin. :)

[Dave (in MA)]

I wondered if TM would remember 9/11 and put up a thread.

There was apparently nothing Fit To Print on the front page of the paper.

[Dave (in MA)]

https://www.nytimes.com/section/todayspaper

[Captain Hate]

Am I the only person here that finds Scott Adams's podcasts (or whatever you call the video things he talks on) annoyingly meandering to the point of not watching them?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Though these rogue efforts largely succeeded, Cal Fire does not condone residents defying evacuation orders, and there are air-pollution regulations surrounding certain types of heavy machinery. Removing trees, too, can raise environmental concerns.--

This article is a little misleading. It might be rare for a vineyard clearing crew but the majority of the dozers used by CalFire are private contractors most of whom use their dozers for other purposes most of the time until called on by CalFire. Timber and logging companies have a long history of fighting fires with and without CalFire direction. Often they're the first ones on the scene, especially if they accidentally started it. :)
The local timber company in Mendocino is assisting CalFire right now on the August Complex.
Logging and ag equipment are I believe still exempt from diesel emissions regs and if anyone has seen a firebreak constructed by cats and handcrews around any fire they will see that being nice to trees is at best a tertiary concern. One of the skills CalFire handcrews are trained hard on is felling trees and they do so constantly to reduce hazards and to slow/stop fires.
CalFire I'm sure does discourage efforts by freelancers for one main reason. If you don't have respirators, thermal blankets and other specialized equipment it is easy to become incapicitated by smoke inhalation or overrun by the flames without protection.

[anonamom]

He also seems to push low-carb/keto diets on his Fat Emperor website, https://thefatemperor.com/

Then he's obviously utterly brilliant! ;-)

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I can't listen to Scott Adams's podcast either. I don't care what he thinks about coffee.

[Dave (in MA)]

Adams works best when I find out after the fact that he'd said something amusing/interesting and then the fast-forward feature can be used to zero in on the particular topic.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

I only listen to two podcasts, neither his.

That reminds me how horrible Bob Woodward's voice is and how much I hated hearing it yesterday when they played some of his recordings. Yikes! Absolutely excruciating to listen to!

[Melinda]

Ooops.

Alex Berenson
@AlexBerenson
And here’s @CDCgov warning ordinary (non-N95) masks will do nothing to protect you against wildfire smoke because “they do not catch small particles.”

Fun fact: smoke particles are far larger than #SARSCoV2.

Your mask protects... well, no one.

https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1304425971714535426

[jimmyk]

I don't listen to podcasts in general, CH, but that wouldn't surprise me. Adams is much better in small doses as on Twitter.

On the other discussion: JFK assassination I was too young to remember, though I have a memory of an image of the funeral on our black and white TV.

Reagan assassination attempt I was in my college dorm room, my senior year. For the first time I had a little 13" b&w TV in my room and followed the drama on that.

9/11 I was in Grand Central getting on the Metro North train to New Haven. Didn't know anything until a bunch of commuters boarded the train in Stamford (if I'd looked out the window as the train emerged from the tunnel in northern Manhattan I might have seen the buildings ablaze 10 miles to the south, but I didn't). Then when I got to the New Haven train station they were replaying the collapse of the buildings on little--you guessed it--black&white TV monitors.

So my first images of all three events were on black and white TV.

[peter]

Yes, dave, provided also given the exact minute and second in which the lucid portion starts and ends.

[anonamom]

re: the "cowboy" firefighters (I personally would call them heroes)---

We've long used the term "cowboy up" at home and work when back in the day "man up" would have been used, being the good non-sexists we've always tried to be.

Means the same damn thing--do what needs doing, no matter how much you'd rather not.
And find whatever it is inside you to do so--because it is in there!

[jimmyk]

That reminds me how horrible Bob Woodward's voice is and how much I hated hearing it yesterday

I've mainly noticed the very strong Chicago accent, though given you're from that part of the country (as am I originally) you might not mind that.

[Barbara]

Removing trees, too, can raise environmental concerns.

Ignatz,

Cal Fire marches to the orders of our bizarre California Environmentalists. The notion that no tree can be removed without damaging the environment still dominates the thinking at the highest levels in the State.

All trees are sacred. None can be removed even though they threaten the forests in this dry desert environment. It's insane. Thankfully, Southern California Edison is more enlightened.

As an aside, apparently antifa is taking advantage of the dry brush near and along freeways and highways to set fires. It used to be a practice to send out fire abatement and clean up crews in these areas. We don't see that anymore.

[James D.]

What is very troubling for me is how quickly some of the supposed resoluteness this nation expressed afterwards evaporated. For a brief period, the left quieted its onslaught on American values, but we all know the long marchers never stop.

The left never quieted it’s onslaught.

They were attacking and mocking President Bush by the afternoon of 9/11, calling him a moron for not panicking the kids in the school he was visiting, and a coward for getting onto Air Force One when we still had no idea of the extent of the attack.

The “why they hate us” and “we had it coming” articles and OpEds started appearing before the end of the week.

And by Wednesday we were already being lectured about Islamophobia and the fire warnings of backlash by idiot redneck fake patriots against peaceful America loving Muslims were on every network.

[hrtshpdbox]

I'm saving all of my poignant remarks on 9/11 for next year, the 20th anniversary. Similarly, expect my bang-up treatise on J.D. Tippit on the 60th anniversary of that, three years from now.

[Jane]

This is always a really hard day for me. As you know I had an 8:15 AM plane scheduled from Logan which is the time the 2 planes left that hit the towers.

I don't think that's why it's hard. I think it's hard because I love our country so much.

[MissMarple2]

jimmyk,

I live in Indianapolis and have all my life, except for 2 years as an Air Force wife in West Berlin, where my son was born in an Army hospital.

I have the strohg Hoosier accent; Melinda is from Chicago.

It isn't his accent; it's the way his vocal chords seem tight and the way he swallows his words. Ugh.

[Barbara]

I don't think that's why it's hard. I think it's hard because I love our country so much.

Beautifully said, Jane.

[jimmyk]

James D is right, the 'unity' lasted a few hours until the video of Bush in the kindergarten class surfaced. The Europeans seemed to rally to our support, at least when they thought we'd been brought to our knees. Once we began to fight back, that support evaporated (remember "freedom fries"?).

[MissMarple2]

Jane,

I don't like this day because I was by myself when the planes hit. Son was at work and daughter was living out of town. I have never liked to fly, and had a horror of aerial attack from growing up during the Cold War.

My siblings were all at work and so I just stared at the television and listened to the announcer. Horrible.

I love this country, too, so today reminds me that we have citizens here who don't care one bit about anything except themselves.

[Captain Hate]

Unfortunately GWB used 9/11 to increase the stranglehold the derp state has on us. And most of us cheered him on (making an educated guess there since I wasn't on JOM until 2007 and wasn't on the internet from home until 2002).

[jimmyk]

While I don't think this Woodward-inspired controversy will amount to much, I think Trump should also say that while he had heard figures like 5% death rates, he knew there was a lot of uncertainty about them, and didn't want to cause *unwarranted* fear and panic. And it turns out it would have been unwarranted.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

And a fat lot of good it did us. While they were busy getting that increased security for airplanes and such, they were quite happy to send all the prescription drug manufacturing to China.

[anonamom]

Am I the only person here that finds Scott Adams's podcasts (or whatever you call the video things he talks on) annoyingly meandering to the point of not watching them?

Posted by: Captain Hate

No, I won't watch them, and find it--I guess arrogant-- for him to think he's worth my time to take away the three minutes of content he presents in an hour or so of rambling on about stuff.

His blog was fabulously insightful in 2015 and 2016--he really "gets" DJT, and how he operates--the persuasion thing. I miss him in that format.

(I almost never watch ANY video posted here either---reading FAR faster)

[CCGirl]

Ig, thanks for the info on Wilson. Sounds like a stand up guy. Loser.

I was in the tennis locker room freshman year in high school when I heard Reagan was shot. I remember a senior saying that she didn’t like him, but she didn’t want someone to shoot him.

On a lighter note, son, daughter, and I were just hanging in the kitchen. Nursing student remarked how she just learned how to take a rectal temperature. I was only half paying attention, and said she could practice on me anytime. Whoops! You should have seen their faces! We all had a good giggle over that new “momism.” I am sure they will keep that one for the books.

Prayers for all. One of my customers told me a few years ago that his father was the pilot of one of the planes that hit the towers. I can’t not imagine.

[CCGirl]

“Can not imagine”.

[Captain Hate]

The only thing I'm interested in hearing from a tool like Woodward is how come he and his fat turd accomplice seem to be completely disinterested in a coup that dwarfs what they were conned into reporting on Watergate.

[hrtshpdbox]

And most of us cheered him on (making an educated guess there since I wasn't on JOM until 2007 and wasn't on the internet from home until 2002).

I was impressed with Bush w/megaphone atop the rubble, and I'm still glad it was him instead of Gore in charge at that point. And I do wish I could figure out what year I first posted on JOM - does anybody here know about things like that?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Ignatz,

Cal Fire marches to the orders of our bizarre California Environmentalists. The notion that no tree can be removed without damaging the environment still dominates the thinking at the highest levels in the State.--

Theoretically and in times of luxury, but what I'm saying is on the firelines where the highest levels of the State never are, and I say this having been there myself and examining many a fireline, when there's a fire, trees are not on the list of things to protect; unless there's a particular grove of giant Sequoias or Redwoods or certain parks which they will tend to protect more assiduously and I'm glad they do.
But in establishing a line, if something is in the way, down it goes and when they backfire to those lines the number of trees they kill is very large.
Even the guys in CalFire understand that a soft line full of protected trees that is breached will kill far more trees by fire than a denuded hard line that holds does.

[cathyf]

One of our favorite students dropped by DrF's office last night to tell us that her parents in rural Oregon had evacuated from the fires. Some of the antifa arsonists we arrested in the town 2 miles from their house.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--The Ivor Cummins video linked above is good, though toward the end he contradicts himself a bit by suggesting that the lockdowns could have forestalled herd immunity and resulted in a bigger 2nd wave, after earlier saying they had no real impact.--

I noticed that too but I think his later point was that even if they do have a marginal effect [affect? :)] it is only temporary and just pushes whatever disease they forestall into the future.
My hummingbird attention span rarely coaxes me to watch any vid for more than a few seconds but I watched all of his. A thirty minute video obviously can't be definitive but seems to me well worth watching especially for low info folks.

[Momto2]

Dave ~ Rather shocking (in spite of their history) that the Times does not have a single 9/11 story on their front page today (at least online.)

I was at the Cleveland Clinic with my parents on 9/11/01 as my dad was having a heart valve replaced. There were many patients there from the Middle East which made it awkward and strange. One ME doctor was shouting and celebrating in the hall (I heard he was later fired for that.) We were scheduled to fly home on Delta and were stuck there for days.

[Narciso]

Im all raged out but being analytical makes me more ragey

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.propublica.org/article/9-11-investigation-saudi-connections-operation-encore-fbi/amp

The typical intelligence product is what that mukluk murphy regurgitated from splc.

[Narciso]

Probably 2003-4. Before that it was full of spam and luciferians

[anonamom]

Looking for the date on the above story, I find this:

by Tim Golden and Sebastian Rotella Jan. 23, 5 a.m. EST

Jan 23 WHAT YEAR?

[Narciso]

This year, three months before the big reveal.

[James D.]

Rather shocking (in spite of their history) that the Times does not have a single 9/11 story on their front page today (at least online.)

The WaPo, too. The main story on the front page is a big article with pictures about the sad story and indignity of antifa terrorists who were arrested by "unidentified" federal officers in Portland.

[Neo]

ANOTHER TRUMP PEACE DEAL: Bahrain will normalize ties with Israel, Bahrain Crown Prince will be in DC Monday. @realDonaldTrump
is expected to make an offical announcement later Friday from the White House - Times Of Israel
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1304431526432698368

[peter]

Would the MSM even bother to cover up Jeremiah Wright's "America's chickens coming home to roost" sermon today, or would they simply argue that it is correct and you're racist if you don't agree.

[Jane]

"Unfortunately GWB used 9/11 to increase the stranglehold the derp state has on us."

Karl Rove gave a really interesting recap of what went on behind the scenes that day. As you know President Bush was in Sarasota. They whisked him away because they were afraid the school would get hit.

They drove 85 MPH down the HWY and noticed a cop car going 85 MPH next to them, and found out later the cops were there to deflect any attack.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Ben Shapiro
@benshapiro
Note: Bahrain normalizing with Israel doesn't happen without Saudi permission. It just doesn't. Which means that this regional peace is going to broaden.

[Melinda]

Nearly $500K discovered hidden inside chair at Miami airport

Customs officers at Miami International Airport were sitting pretty after discovering nearly $500,000 hidden inside a chair being smuggled out of the US, officials said.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/nearly-500k-discovered-hidden-inside-chair-at-miami-airport/

[Narciso]

Yes the khalifas are just down the causeway from the sauds

[hrtshpdbox]

Is there any question that Trump has had more foreign policy successes in four years than Obmaa had in eight?

[Narciso]

Isnt wright the cliffnotes of 1619. Isnt rosenberg ayers protege.

[Melinda]

Where was that? Malaysia you say? Hmmmmm.

Department of Justice Announces Charges of North Korean and Malaysia Nationals for Bank Fraud, Money Laundering and North Korea Sanctions Violations

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/department-justice-announces-charges-north-korean-and-malaysia-nationals-bank-fraud-money

[Waves at Lloyd!]

[BeastsEngland]

I’ve recently started listening to Bongino’s podcasts again. He’s very informed, extremely patriotic, and I get a kick out of his accent and delivery. I guess I should start calling him ‘Danny from Queens’.

[DrJ]

I suppose it is too much to hope for Qatar being next? They have rather complicated foreign relations.

[Narciso]

They have bought the stage dr j, support militias from pakistan to west africa.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

As bad as 9/11 was, by far the greatest damage done to the US was by our idiotic reactions to it.
The endless preposterous wars that we're STILL fighting.
The endless preposterous TSA scam we're still submitting to.
The endless preposterous surveillance state we're still submitting to.
And others.

Had we given the civilian population a week to leave and then turned Kabul, Teheran and Baghdad to rubble and destroyed Iran and Iraq's militaries and assassinated as many of the leaders as we could locate we would have been done in a couple of months and any would-be punks would be terrified of coming anywhere near us. And most importantly our true enemies would have born the brunt of the punishment.
We did almost everything wrong possible. That we still survive with the imbeciles we keep electing must be evidence God is still looking out for the USA, per Bismarck.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I said it before and I'll say it again, if Antifa truly has decided to go on an arson spree that will be a major strategic mistake; for them and their Dem benefactors and protectors.

[Narciso]

They are following the palestinian strategy,

[CCGirl]

I am moving my traveling home office back to the computer cabinet. I forgot that last time I worked from here I hung a framed letter from Ronald Reagan to my aunt.

September 15, 1988.

Dear Ms Harris,

From the bottom of my heart, I want to thank you for your message and the kind words.

I can't tell you how much I've relied on people like you who've cheered with me in times of victory and stood by me in tougher times. That support has never meant more to me than it does now. Let me say, though, that I don't regard our work as done. Peace with freedom and prosperity, America's project, is a going concern. That's why I am convinced, and I think you'll agree, we can't let 1988, a year of decision, be the end of anything.

Counting on your continued friendship in the days to come, and I send you my appreciation and best wishes. God Bless you.

Sincerely,

Ronald Reagan (signed - not typed)

Makes me want to cry. So true. What a great man, and how blessed we are to have Trump fighting for the same.

[JimNorCal]

"antifa is taking advantage of the dry brush near and along freeways and highways to set fires. It used to be a practice to send out fire abatement and clean up crews in these areas. We don't see that anymore"

I wonder if a lot of the brush clearing along highways was gradually phased out over the decades after smoking became so much less common.

[MissMarple2]

I haven't decided if Antifa attracts the fat, bad-toothed, ugly, and pierced or if it makes them that way.

However, I was a bit put-off when my bank teller on Wednesday (I had to go in) had a neck tattoo in black and 3 lip studs. She was very helpful, but talk about bizarre-looking!

[henry]

Miss M, body art paid for by student loans.

[Melinda]

Gimme a break!

Bloomberg QuickTake
@QuickTake
Former Theranos CEO Elizabeth Holmes is considering a “mental disease” defense for her fraud trial, in one of Silicon Valley’s most closely watched cases

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1304452993425854466

[JohnH]

hrtshpdbox,

You ask about your earliest posting. I see you posting and making friends at:

https://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2006/10/the_duke_debacl.html?cid=24601708#comment-6a00d83451b2aa69e200d834f8533869e2

[Melinda]

Gomes
@GomesBolt
2 months ago, it was gospel that Ibuprofen kills you if you have Covid.

That’s the problem with “Believe the Experts!!!”

There are no experts in a brand new disease. It takes years of studies to determine what works and what does not.

LinksMedicus.com @Links_Medicus
NSAIDs like ibuprofen not tied to severe COVID-19, death – via @CIDRAP

ow.ly/oMgP50Bo5eo

https://twitter.com/GomesBolt/status/1304455740300681219

[henry]

Mental disease... sociopathy?

[Extraneus]

Also true:

As bad as 9/11 COVID-19 was, by far the greatest damage done to the US was by our idiotic reactions to it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--They are following the palestinian strategy--

Al Qaeda for years called on their infiltrated terrorist brethren to start massive wildfires but they never did.

Antifa, the one group of Americans who will do the jobs illegal aliens won't.

[Manuel Transmission]

Just discovered this:

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/09/lloyd_marcus_unhyphenated_american_the_complete_obituary.html

Had no idea Lloyd had died back in late July. Given that tomorrow is the eleventh anniversary of the TEA Party March, that was the first I’d heard of and listened to Lloyd. Our pal Nancy S. who several of the JOMers at the march met, has sung with Lloyd many times on the various campaign trails.

RIP Lloyd Marcus, American.

[Sammy Small]

hrtshpdbox

What's new about J.D. Tippit? His son, Allan, went to my high school in Dallas. He did not take his fathers death well, getting in all kinds of trouble afterwards. I heard of a couple of incidents where the police cut him some slack due to his father's status, but it took a while for him to get past it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Mental disease... sociopathy?--

Historically personality and behavioral disorders like narcissism, psychopathy, etc have not been an allowed legal defense because they obviously do know right from wrong and while they have certain 'compulsions' they still know and choose the wrong. For instance if anti-social personality disorder were a legitimate defense about 50% of cons and 90% of habitual crooks would never go to jail.
Organic mental diseases like schizophrenia where the person is simply in another world are another matter.
Good luck, Liz.

[Barbara]

JimSunnyvale,

Perhaps, but I think it was more likely budget cuts and/or redirection of funds to other programs and increasing salaries.

Fire bugs are always a problem. Always. They probably thought that it would be less likely for a fire to jump an 10–12 lane highway/freeway, but they do jump that distance. There's also the problem of sparks from a vehicle. There was an incident within the past week along 101 involving a poorly attached trailer that sparked a fire.

In the mountains, we are required to trim trees away from the house and to clear brush, pine needles 30 feet away from structures every year. Preventative measures may not stop a fire from starting, but they are essential if you are to be able to control one from spreading.

A couple of years ago a fire bug started a small fire along the 210 freeway going west. It spread and jumped across that huge freeway to threaten communities. I'll never forget that Sunday afternoon when a police vehicle went around our neighborhood telling everyone that a voluntary evacuation order was in effect. We thought that the fire had been put out, yet we watched it spread towards the hills. Without the air drops and the diligent work of our firefighters, it would have jumped the canyon and come our way.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I was driving home from Binghamton, so I was listening to the situation unfold on NPR. I know. I know. Anyway, when the first tower fell, I'll never forget Scott Simon's anguish as he reported it. We all knew how many were in those buildings still and the heroic first responders doing what they do best.

When I got home and saw the actual attacks, I realized that my brain hadn't been able to supply the visuals. My imagination hadn't been up to the tragedy. I've never forgotten that.

[DrJ]

Barbara,

Up here we don't have many problems with the firebugs. The homeless are a different matter. They have set quite a number of grass fires.

[jimmyk]

He did not take his fathers death well, getting in all kinds of trouble afterwards.

And now extrapolate that to the millions of boys who have no fathers, often out of neglect. Throw in lockdowns and an artificial economic depression, and what would we expect?

My BIL lost his dad when he was around 6 years old, and Mrs K tells me he was a terror, though he eventually settled down and ended up in the Secret Service (how's that for closing a loop?).

[hrtshpdbox]

hrtshpdbox,

You ask about your earliest posting. I see you posting and making friends at:

That's hilarious, I remember actually writing to TM and asking him "what's up with this Dale in Atlanta" idiot, and TM replied to me! He said the fellow always seemed OK to him. But I started posting well prior to 2006, or at least I thought so.

[hrtshpdbox]

Thanks for digging that up, though, JohnH.

[MissMarple2]

I have to go pick up my Kroger order. Back in an hour or less!

[clarice]

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a48031/the-falling-man-tom-junod/

A brilliant longish piece appropriate for the anniversary.For weeks after 9/11 I replayed this scene in my dreams.

[Narciso]

He was oswalds second victim, research suggests he was on the way to another location, when tippet stopped him

[jimmyk]

I think I started in 2006 as well, though a small sample of the archives doesn't confirm that. My recollection (probably faulty) is that what brought me here was a thread about the justifications (as stated prior to the invasion) for going into Iraq over and above the existence of WMD.

[hrtshpdbox]

Sammy, for me the Tippit episode is one of the few real head-scratcher's with the whole story, and I've just never been satisfied with what I've read. One guy, I think named Mears, wrote a whole book about Tippit, and I still don't think he covered it right (neither did Bugliosi, but that's no surprise). Tippit's location, his actions before confronting Oswald, even the pressed uniform in his car at the time - all of it bothers me, lol.

[GUS]

One really good thing about California, Brown and Threesome, is that when all this accelerated global burning is happening, they were spending money the state doesn't have on a a CHOO CHOO.

[clarice]

https://nationandstate.com/2020/09/11/uk-strikes-historic-free-trade-deal-with-japan-as-brussels-threatens-to-abandon-talks/

[Narciso]

I read the whole panoply of conspiracy books gus russo came closest to the crux of the matter.

[henry]

The “just us” rolls unimpeded. thread

@kyledcheney

JUST IN: Adviser appointed by Judge Sullivan in FLYNN case urges him to deny DOJ's motion to dismiss the case, calling its decision a clear pretext for Trump's pressure campaign. Flynn's guilt is "obvious" he argues.

https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1304450096948482048?s=21

[jimmyk]

“for me the Tippit episode is one of the few real head-scratcher's with the whole story”

I’ve never quite grasped the Jack Ruby thing either. The idea that this mobbed-up guy killed Oswald and willingly went to prison they rest of his life just because he really loved JFK never convinced me at all, though I have not read much about the whole subject. Supposedly Posner’s “Case Closed” puts all the conspiracy theories to rest, but I haven’t read that either.

[Captain Hate]

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The Bulwark's "Culture Editor" defends Cuties, attacks critics because The Bulwark is totally conservative
I saw a clip of 11 year old girls wagging their assholes and pumping their vages in my fucking face. Do I need to see more to evaluate the movie's suitability as CP material, Marvel Movie Manchild? Do I need to understand the context and artist's intention with respect to the tweener camel-toe I got an eyefull of?
Can't wait to hear how fully erect Bunch thinks the movie is, when he sits down for his full, naked review
I ask again: Why is it that 90% of the people with paid positions in the corporate (and Democrat!) funded "conservative media" seem like the conservative media was their Safety School after their top picks, Slate, Salon, and New Republic?
Hey idiot, we're not evaluating Cuties as a filmic narrative, you fucking stupid leftwing c#ck. We're evaluating it as low-key CP. Do you think that if outright CP includes a "good message" about Free Markets and Open Borders we should evaluate it on that basis? "Well it had a good message, so that makes up for the child exploitation!"
Noted Conservative Jonah Goldberg retweeted Sonny Bunch's "let's-take-a-wait-and-see-attitude on CP" tweet
Emerald Robinson speculates that Pastor David French is already typing up "The Conservative Case for Cuties" or blaming Christians for it

[henry]

Add Bahrain to the peace deals with Israel.

[Captain Hate]

The “just us” rolls unimpeded. thread

I don't know why anyone pretends this isn't judicial tyranny by unelected actors.

[Melinda]

Heh:

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/eve/d/cincinnati-actors-wanted-no-experience/7192877983.html

[hrtshpdbox]

jimmyk, you know how it goes - Posner and Bugliosi "proved" the lone nut theory to the people who already believed it, and conspiracy theorists started poking holes in those books (from their perspectives) the day they were released.

[JimNorCal]

A 9/11 Tribute vid posted on BeJohnGalt blog.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qARh0McieiM&feature=youtu.be

Remember the kids at daycare waiting for parents to pick them up, parents who would never come ...
Remember the boaters who ferried people back and forth, people who had no other way to get home that day ...
Remember the jumpers

[henry]

Don’t want the backwoods in their source code exposed?

@cnbcnow

BREAKING: Beijing opposes a forced sale of TikTok in the U.S. and would prefer to see the app shut down instead - Reuters

[henry]

Backdoors

[CCGirl]

Clarice - great article. Long, but certainly well written. I could not finish it. Too painful and sad.

[JimNorCal]

JohnH: September 11, 2020 at 12:28 PM

Well.
That was fun! Click on the link in John's comment.
If the link doesn't resolve to the exact line then scroll down to
Posted by: hrtshpdbox | October 30, 2006 at 06:25 PM
Wow, 2006. 'box has been around for a while!

Jane's response directly underneath is short but heartfelt!

[CCGirl]

Whew, that is some video JimSC.

Time for me to get back to paperwork.

[Jack Lillywhite]

I was in London having a meeting with the UK reps of French company Alstom. My associate, a West Post grad ex-Army helicopter pilot barged in, turned on the TV and all of us and the other 50 people in the office crowded around to watch.

We were told to go home. For me, that meant trying to either catch a Circle Line train or a bus to Victoria Station as I lived near there. Instead I had to hoof it from The City to Belgravia. When I got home, my FIL & MIL, were there. We lived just across the road from Buckingham Palace gardens. As a result the Metro’s Counter-Terror police showed up in one of their crowd control SUVs to check out our Bon-a-fides. All with a police chopper hovering above.

Pretty damn unsettling.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I've been through 2 major forest fires too close for comfort and one that got squished quick very close to home and thank God for CalFire. They may have political dictates at the top but the line crews are fabulous, even the ones from the prisons.

CalFire has more than 80 S-2 ex Navy COD twin props, a dozen Hueys and several other planes like OV-10 Broncos as spotters. They have 15 bases up and down the state. Reaction time is @ 30 minutes after a call because they have to get a spotter plane up to control air traffic. After that it is a bucket brigade.

I have seen the helos pulling water from golf course ponds, reservoirs and lakes.It takes 3 minutes for the S-2's to reload with fire retardant. They have their act down.

But they are not search & rescue. The Guard, however, are very good at landing in hot LZ's and extracting people.

These fires are all hands affairs, whether it's some contractor with a Cat D-9 or the guy hosing his roof down (me) or the guys flying the 747's. That is truly an awesome sight. When I lived in the canyon, we had a complete evacuation plan for people and critters.

I was at Missoula airport a few weeks ago and that is the HQ for the smoke jumpers. Not sure if they are being used right now. Stones the size of bowling balls.

This may be the worst. Air quality from San Diego to Seattle to Denver sucks.