RBG Delivers An RPG To The Election

I am contemplating the RBG news from my window ledge. Hey, its first floor, so its really only the shrubs we need to worry about.

Ross Douthat explains why the Republicans are likely to just go for it and seat a third Trump judge. (He does not say "Effin' go for it!", but he might have!).  His gist - from a conservative's perspective the Supreme Court has had a legitimacy problem since Roe v. Wade in 1973. The Republican Establishment has had a festering legitimacy problem developing over decades of "Republican" judges drifting left, like Souter, Kennedy and Breyer. With that background, if they hesitate a few steps short of the finish line and look for some vague pre-election Democratic promises of Supreme Court "reform" , the party is over:

But that [promises of high minded reform] might be an idealist’s fancy. Suppose that Ginsburg isn’t replaced this fall, Biden is elected, and he fills her seat and then replaces at least one conservative justice as well, flipping the court back to liberal control. The Democratic incentive to reform our juristocracy would diminish or evaporate, and liberalism’s self-understanding as the party of hyper-educated mandarins would come back to the fore, making progressives enthusiastic about judicial power once again.

Meanwhile, conservatives would have all of their suspicions about establishment Republicans confirmed yet one more time, and they could add the Supreme Court to the lengthening list of elite institutions in which cultural liberalism’s power seems more consolidated every day.

The likely result would be a right-wing coalition that’s angrier and Trumpier than the G.O.P. that nominated Trump himself four years ago. So our imagined Republican senator’s reward for his high-minded vote could easily be a longer-term defeat for moderate conservatism: The judiciary would be handed over to ambitious liberals, and his own party would become more populist, paranoid and hostile to any form of compromise.

Sometimes you just have to keep throwing punches:

Of course I am speculating, but my point is to suggest the inherent unknowability of some “what’s best for the republic” outcome as our Republican senator contemplates his vote. It might be that a high-minded renunciation of power saves us from a crisis … but it might just as easily be that the only way out of the crisis is through, meaning for both sides to contest frankly for the power to change a broken system, and to look for new norms on the other side rather than propping up old ones that clearly don’t work anymore.

I'm leaning towards "fine, fight on!". And of course Trump is - he loves a brawl, never saw a scuffle he couldn't escalate, and may have reached peak popularity with the Never-Trumpers during the Kavanaugh imbroglio. If I were a Republican strategist, would I want to spend six weeks debating COVID or RBG? It's a no-brainer. Do unto others before they do unto you, amirite? And Cocaine Mitch tied the 2016 and 2018 elections to the Supreme Court, and came up a winner each time. I don't see a prospect for peace for out time.

That said, as an example of high-minded compromise, the invaluable (and clearly shaken) David French offers this suggestion.

What can be done? An increasing number of center-right legal scholars, including the American Enterprise Institute’s Adam White and George Mason Law School professor Ilya Somin are proposing a variant of an approach best summed up as “make them keep their word.” It goes something like this:

First, Trump makes his pick.

Second, the Senate applies the Schumer principle and gives the nominee a hearing. This will have the benefit of giving the American people a more-complete picture of the qualifications and philosophy of the nominee and thus the stakes of the presidential election.

Third, the Senate then applies the Graham/Rubio/Cruz rule and does not vote before the election. If Trump wins, they then vote on the nominee.

But what if Trump loses? What principle comes into play? Joe Biden’s own words provide the guide.

In the October 2019 Democratic debate, Joe Biden clearly expressed his opposition to court-packing. “I’m not prepared to go on and try to pack the court,” he said, “because we’ll live to rue that day.” He continued, “We add three justices. Next time around, we lose control, they add three justices. We begin to lose any credibility the court has at all.”

He’s right. Court-packing is dangerous. Yet if the GOP violates its principles to jam through a nominee in Trump’s last days in office, the pressure from congressional Democrats to pack the court may well be overwhelming. So Biden should make a deal with the lame-duck Senate. Keep the seat open, and he’ll pledge not to sign any legislation packing the Supreme Court while he’s in office.

A promise - pardon me, "pledge" - from Joe Biden? Frankly, I don't think for a second there is enough trust on either side to make it work, and Trump is the one guy committed to screaming matches.

We're just going to do this. And to be honest, although I feel as if I'm ODing on history right now, the "Hmm, Can This Really Burn Down?" side of me is kinda fascinated. Maybe I should try watching NASCAR for the crashes or hockey for the fights.

Comments

[Narciso]

Thanks tm

We have the presidency and the senate implicitly on the promise of judges to restore jurisprudence to some semblance of sanity

[Narciso]

Gorsuch and kavanaugh dissapointed this term, on a host of issues, gorsuch more so considering his background.

[Narciso]

Is tater in a mirror universe

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1308215311183876096

[Narciso]

Carrying over:

https://nypost.com/2020/09/21/why-amy-coney-barrett-is-hands-down-best-pick-to-replace-ruth-bader-ginsburg/amp/

[Narciso]

Next up the three body problem from the folks who deepsixed game of thrones last season

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheCriticalDri2/status/1307939902370320392

[Pinandpuller]

I think what RBG was telling Trump is,”You will not replace us.”

[Narciso]

Where are the plasma rifles when you need them

https://meaninginhistory.blogspot.com/2020/09/andrew-weissmann-out-to-settle-scores.html?m=1

[Dave (in MA)]

NYT, NPR, Bulwark, Reason

[MissMarple2]

The President has also posted statements from many GOP senators on his Twitter home page, many with video. I just cannot post them all, and most aren't surprises. Here's the link to his Twitter home page if you want to take a look or keep a tally:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump

You will have to scroll down past the pics and videos of the Ohio rallies.

[MissMarple2]

Calvin Coolidge
@kramerreport
·
2h
Gavin Newsom: “ California will never go back to life before Covid.”

U Haul: “ Moving trucks are booked for a year in advance.”

[Narciso]

Of course this is shadow puppets

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-met-with-potential-scotus-nominee-amy-coney-barrett

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

A group of (mostly former) Dem leaders call on the Dem Party to LIGHTEN UP on abortion.

Wait. What?

http://bejohngalt.com/2020/09/as-advertised-in-the-nyt/
"This letter was originally addressed to the Platform Committee on Aug 14, 2020. We received no response."

[Another Bob]

Speaking of burning down, Louisville has boarded up its courthouse and cancelled all police vacation, in advance of the announcement of the Breonna Taylor grand jury decision.

Seems like they’re foreshadowing?

[Dave (in MA)]

New York Post@nypost
Robert Kraft likely to get off in Florida massage
parlor case https://trib.al/inFY3iO

HIYOOO

[Porchlight]

Trump is the one guy committed to screaming matches.

News to me.

[Narciso]

Regression to the mean

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/09/21/the-supreme-court-may-be-about-to-take-a-hard-right-turn

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

I'm comforted in seeing TM work in a ref to "RPG" (rocket propelled grenade) to the post. This time purposely! I think in the "unseemly" tweet he may have typoed it in place of RBG. But maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

[Porchlight]

Silence from Mittens so far is telling. I think he will cave.

[Narciso]

The innuendo is too sharp dave

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2020/09/21/florida-prosecutors-decision-likely-clears-robert-kraft-of-solicitation/amp

[Porchlight]

Floorshadowing, AB.

[Narciso]

Its more like those mother boxes from that film we wont mention. Also the power stone.

[MissMarple2]

THANK YOU @RSBNetwork! pic.twitter.com/djlzOdTTXc

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 22, 2020

Video at link (a little over a minute) where RSBN turns the cameras around so you can see the size of the crowd.

[Narciso]

This was the chimp worthy link

https://www.wsj.com/articles/coronavirus-can-spread-by-tiny-air-particles-cdc-now-says-11600700364?mod=e2twp

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

btw, thanks boris for the fwd link back thread.

[Narciso]

Hes a little peaved

https://www.steynonline.com/10642/last-orders-at-the-hive

[Another Bob]

I chuckled Porch. We have the greatest creative people...

[clarice]

narciso, CDC already retracted that.

McConnell was great today. NYT says he's got the votes--per schweikert tweet.

It's on. The president is only acting as his opponents would in the same situation. I'm all for that.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

--Would anyone get “free solar”--

Absolutely Jane. And it comes with a lifetime supply of free lunches.

[Narciso]

Report to the malabar front

https://mobile.twitter.com/EmeraldRobinson/status/1308167123487817732

[Another Bob]

There should be a special place in hell for the GoFundMe management.

[Another Bob]

Clarice, 👍🏻

Just don’t blow it.

[clarice]

As for hearings, Graham says they're on--and he's motivated by the treatment Kavanaugh got. What goes around comes around...in this case comes around very late in .

Not even sure what kind of hearing they'll have--apparently no audience. Also Zoomed. And if it's Barrett she'll be there with all 7 kids, looking like a regular suburban mom. They confirmed her just years ago after a hearing in which the anti-Catholic stench emitted by Feinstein filled the room. Is she gonna try that stunt again?

[Another Bob]

Who’s offering the “free solar” Jane?

[Dave (in MA)]

Some guy named Sol.

[boris]

"It's on. The president is only acting as his opponents would in the same situation. I'm all for that"

Indeed.

An argument that doesn't work with Trump ...

"If we do to them what they do to us we lose the moral high ground to complain about what they do to us."

[clarice]

Great RNC ad--they're finally learning:https://twitter.com/ITGuy1959/status/1307877608487628802

[Porchlight]

We do, AB.

But oh, I hope that office chair isn't tearing up that wood floor.

Great crowd at that link, MM! Yow. Trump just retweeted!

https://thedonald.win/p/HXoc2GXZ/thank-you-rsbnetwork/c/

[MissMarple2]

Heading to bed,

Good night all!

[The Infamous Ignatz]

This episode more than any other proves beyond any shadow of a doubt that the nevertrumpers are full of more horseshit than Churchill Downs.
All they shoot their effin mouths off about constantly is how they are the true guardians of real conservatism and Trump has messed their laborious work to advance it all to hell.
So here Trump has an opportunity to advance a purely conservative, non Trumpian agenda that might last for decades simply by exercising his constitutional duty.
And these worthless shitbirds can't think of anything other than how not to do the one thing that would advance conservatism more than any other. Instead they want to make a "you'll glad pay us Tuesday for a hamburger today" deal with the slimiest bunch of pols since Boss Tweed and Tamany Hall.
They have not honor, chests, spines nor shame.

[MissMarple2]

Just returned to the @WhiteHouse after a GREAT evening in OHIO! pic.twitter.com/mSstQqztGK

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 22, 2020

Video at link. Very cool view of White House.

NOW going to bed!

[Another Bob]

If Lindsay is locking out the mobs, it’s the best thing I’ve heard in a while.

I’d hope that’d be mil-grade videoconferencing and not Zoom though. But I’d prefer to bring the nominee in live were I chairman. Maybe face-to-face with no audience to play to might cut the scumbaggy rhetoric a bit?

[clarice]

No more handmaidens in the halls, no more winking and passing notes with Blakesley's handlers.

[Another Bob]

Come to think of it again, no, distribute the hearing. Have all the members do it from different locations. Have the nominee in an undisclosed location. Don’t supply a target for the mobs.

[clarice]

https://twitter.com/pnjaban/status/1307761010778845184

Sounds like Iggy but in cleaner language

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

New York Post@nypost
Robert Kraft likely to get off in Florida massage
parlor case

A happy ending..

Who didn't see that coming..

Notice his mask? We are all Patriots - Ummm those are MISSILES! I crack myself up. LOL

Ok I'm done. But he's spent.

[Narciso]

Youll be here all week,

[The Infamous Ignatz]

I reluctantly disagree with my friends here today on why abortion is a sacrament to the left.
Babies are part of families and both are a gift from God and the bedrock of Western Civilization and individual autonomy.
The left is and always has been at war with individual autonomy, Western Civilization and, more fundamentally, God on which the previous two are based.
That, regardless of anything else is why they not only approve of but cheer and even celebrate killing babies. From no fault divorce to welfare to education to homosexual marriage to the sexual revolution, ad nuaseum, every prog policy is designed to weaken and destroy the nuclear family and strengthen the state in its place. And abortion accomplishes that more effectively than any of the other because it is the most immoral and consequently the most destructive of traditional God based society.

[Another Bob]

Clarice, if you meant Blasey(-Ford)’s handlers, I don’t think there’s a way to stop that.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Not even sure what kind of hearing they'll have

Why even bother with hearings? They just went through that BS with both ACB and Lagoa w/in the last few years.

I'd nominate Lagoa as she got 85 votes last time. The pressure would be on the dems... what changed?

[Narciso]

Yes we seem to have returned to babylonian and phoenician standards moloch baal dagon take your pick, which were clearly condemned in leviticus if memory serves,

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Heh
Jenna Ellis
@JennaEllisEsq
·
21h
Justice Scalia's dying wish was that Donald Trump be elected to a second term.

[Another Bob]

“ The pressure would be on the dems... what changed?”

You know the answer to that.

[lyle]

I just read that comment twice, bro. Your conclusion only bears out the proposition: abortion is the ineradicable tenet of the canon of progism. We’ll talk later.

[Barbara]

Peace for our time?

I don't want peace with the democrats. I want to demolish them.

[Narciso]

How much does omidyar pay they are willing to twist themselves into a pretzel at the bulwinkle

[clarice]

https://babylonbee.com/news/fisher-price-introduces-supreme-court-protest-playhouse-that-can-be-vandalized-and-burned-down

[joan]

I rolled my eyes at the same phrase you did in your 10.41, Porch. 'Trump's the one guy committed to screaming matches' ... who has a more legitimate reason to scream than Trump? For the past four years he's been attacked, lied about, schemed against, insulted, been dishonored and treated as despicably as no other person has in my lifetime for doing what he was elected to do.

Besides that, he doesn't scream. He tweets and the left hates him for it. They hate his spunk. They hate his backbone. They hate his wit. They hate he's still standing. They've made themselves sick with corruption and hate. If they don't pay legally, their bodies are-- because no vessel can carry the hate they do and not be poisoned by it.

[Melinda]

You tell me that things aren’t happening now.

@joshdcaplan

REUTERS: Iran Foreign Minister says Tehran ready to exchange all prisoners with US

https://twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/1308223246521769985?s=21

[The Infamous Ignatz]

If McConnell guides a conservative through the prog minefield I think "Cocaine Mitch" should be retired in favor of "Apex Predator Mitch" as some moron prog was calling him today.

[clarice]

Iggy, that was Howard Fineman at the WaPo.

[Narciso]

He was the one newsweek reporter i didnt expect to go stark raving then he ended up at the puffington.

[Another Bob]

An annoyance. Feel free to SOB.

I read this in a Marketwatch story about Boeing moving the rest of 787 production out of Everett WA...

“Currently, it builds the 747, 767, 777, and some 787s there. After 2022, only the 767/KC-46 and 777/777X would remain, with Boeing putting out no more than five jets monthly - roughly three times fewer than a year ago.”

What does “three times fewer” mean? I’m seeing this construction from more and more allegedly professional writers. How about ”roughly one-third last year’s production”, or “compared to fifteen per month last year”.

[Narciso]

Yes thanks clunky diction, and it doesnt convey any more information

https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=45715

[Momto2]

Howard Steele
@HowardSteele5
"This is going to be everything on the table... and too many people on our side are talking about the rules of croquet when the other side is coming to this with mobs and nunchucks and weapons."

[Barbara]

"Apex Predator Mitch"

I like it Ignatz.

Quietly and deliberately, McConnell has been rebuilding a more reliable judiciary in accordance with the President's directives. In the long run that will sustain our Republic or at least give us some breathing room. I particularly applaud that judge who set a $1,000,000 bail for the rioters.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Was it lyle who introduced up to the "Apex Predator" moniker yesterday? I like it!

I like this description of Never Trumpers too, from Ig:
They have not honor, chests, spines nor shame.

[Momto2]

James Woods
@RealJamesWoods

This conversation is easy. We couldn’t care less about Merrick Garland. We certainly don’t care about the feelings of those who have tried to destroy this President. We. Simply. Don’t. Care. We are going to #FillTheSeat and we couldn’t care less what Democrats think. Ever. Again.

[Narciso]

Granted not all are made in washington still though.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/#/orders-deliveries

[Narciso]

Year to year comparisons

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/displaystandardreport.cfm?cboCurrentModel=777&optReportType=AllModels&cboAllModel=777&ViewReportF=View+Report

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Fineman it was, clarice; as pulpous and boneless a man as e'er trod the earth.

[clarice]

Nytol, I need to sleep to keep up by revolutionary fervor. Smooches

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

Mel: 11:38,
You tell me that things aren’t happening now.
@joshdcaplan
REUTERS: Iran Foreign Minister says Tehran ready to exchange all prisoners with US

Wow. Both Iran and China had pretty much gone all-in on hoping for Dem victory in the Nov election in order to get more favorable treatment, like what they're used to.
Also, didn't someone post a snip about Bibi being pulled out of a meeting, and then Bibi sent some top muckety-muck (Defense Minister?) to DC to consult with the US.
Stuff is shakin'

[Narciso]

As someone put it in another blog ginsburg was confirmed nearly 10 years after the borking and four years after thomas 'high tech lynching'.so how about that civility.

[Melinda]

And Waaaaaaayyyyyyy after Sandra Day O’Connor.

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Won't go into specifics but excellent progress on all the big fires out here in the last 24 hours

[Narciso]

Its the 22nd now, but you know the thing

https://mobile.twitter.com/Doranimated/status/1308121740287995904

[Narciso]

Good news, now bibi is the apex predator in israel. Always in motion and often underestimated.

[Narciso]

Topical kjom

https://youtu.be/Gs069dndIYk

[Past is Prologue]

"...Babies are part of families and both are a gift from God and the bedrock of Western Civilization and individual autonomy. The left is and always has been at war with individual autonomy, Western Civilization and, more fundamentally, God on which the previous two are based."

Yes, Iggy! Yours is the answer to the question -- *What's all this talk I hear about abortion?...*

[The Infamous Ignatz]

Communist creeps covering themselves in glory talking smack about the guy who killed himself after being indicted for shooting some commie protester.

[Jim,SunnyvaleCA,USA]

KJOM, a mellow 2005 live version of From The Beginning by Greg Lake.
https://youtu.be/A8AP-kobAtg

From the sublime to the ridiculous:
Joe Walsh explains the song "Life's Been Good" in detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIzyTk1fuf0

[Texas Liberty Gal]

I'm finally caught up!!! Of course I'm off to bed and in the am will be behind again but for this moment I'm will relish it.

Good night all.

[jim nj]

TM had to wait for Ross Douthat to opine before posted anew thread?

RBG and RPG is cute, but are we talking about a rocket propelled grenade or a role playing game?

[jim nj]

RPG, if the grenade, is interesting in the sense of this being a huge rip in the fabric of the space-time of this election process. Who could have seen this coming?

RPG as in the gamesmanship process seems to be the result of the former. Dems are going to try and force Reps into playing their game? Not going to happen.

Our side should feel shame at stealing a Sherman's march to the sea in record time? I think not. I want the Reps to be just as ruthless and unprincipled as we know the Dems would be.

[jim nj]

I was here briefly to see the RBG death announcement. Then my now spotty internet went down. Sunday night, late, I almost caught up only to lose my connection again. So now I'm current with posts and links.

I've wanted to comment on this, but most of you have covered the options well. My original thought was that Trump HAD to name a new Supreme Court justice nominee. He has said he will do so. Polite and political considerations suggest that he should wait until RBG has been eulogized and buried before doing so.

It sounds like he plans to do that. In the meantime the battle is already underway with volleys back and forth. The arguments over precedents and consistency have already been lost. No right-thinking Republican is going to be swayed by Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi or any other infidel.

So we will have a nominee and a confirmation plan in place by the weekend. Time well spent, I think.

[jim nj]

And this is not an original thought, as somebody here already mentioned it, but it won't be the usually hearing with the Covid-19 restrictions.

No Code Pink, or their ilk, demonstrators doing their usual political theater at the hearing.

CNN will have to remotely work them into the coverage.

This could be the fastest, cleanest confirmation in history.

Of course, there will have to be an agreement between Republicans and Democrats on how the confirmation process should proceed. That should be a very short conversation. More like a lecture from "Cocaine" Mitchell. Schumer has little bargaining power.

[jim nj]

And I want an intrepid Republican staffer located in the communications hub knocking Democrat senators off-line.

I want "I am reclaiming my time," replaced with a new catch phrase. One that can't be heard as Democrat senators are lost in cyber-space.

On the timing of the vote I'm agnostic. Nov. 2 is good. Nov. 4 is good. I can see reasons for either date.

[Pinandpuller]

LeBron James and Barak Obama have never finished a book:

There’s no feeling like finishing a book, and I’m proud of this one. In A Promised Land, I try to provide an honest accounting of my presidency, the forces we grapple with as a nation, and how we can heal our divisions and make democracy work for everybody.

https://twitter.com/barackobama/status/1306535933475532803?s=21

[hrtshpdbox]

Dems excited that if Martha McSally loses Arizona, and she's trailing, the Dem winner would be seated on Nov 30, potentially complicating the vote on the Trump nominee.

https://kjzz.org/content/1619865/if-mark-kelly-wins-arizona-us-senate-race-he-could-assume-office-nov-30

[clarice]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/graham-weve-got-the-votes-to-confirm-justice-ginsburgs-replacement-before-the-election_3509033.html

[hrtshpdbox]

Biden is far more committed to screaming matches than Trump. I've never heard Trump offering to physically fight people who ask him questions he doesn't like. What politician, besides Biden, has ever done that? Clearly, Biden is the one with the temper tantrum problem.

[hrtshpdbox]

We all have in our minds commercials we think should be made. A Trump ad showing all the times Biden has been caught on camera lashing out at voters and reporters, with a "This is a nice guy??" chyron - I'd like to see that one.

[clarice]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/questions-for-senator-whitehouse-11600729418?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

[clarice]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/breaking-judicial-norms-a-history-11600639835?mod=MorningEditorialReport&mod=djemMER_h

[Pinandpuller]

RGB’s body will be displayed in repose for a week.

I guess her second dying wish was to violate Halacha.

[anonamom]

As for hearings, Graham says they're on--and he's motivated by the treatment Kavanaugh got. What goes around comes around...in this case comes around very late

That was horrendous treatment for K, of course, but it was also MASSIVE disrespect to Graham as Committee chair. Not only could Graham not ensure the nominee the human decency he should have been afforded, Graham got rolled big time, in front of the entire nation.

It's VERY VERY personal.

[rse]

Narc--

You mentioned above that gorsuch was a surprise. Are you familiar with John Finnis' work?

He was the mentor to both gorsuch and robert p george. George is on my radar from his curious 2011 affirmative offense to create a false narrative around the common core before most people had heard of it. His road shows with cornel west are also troubling and he just launched the E Pluribus Unum series with aei. I listened to his program with Rabbi Jonathan Sacks this month.

I had not realized george was such an aristotle fan, which suddenly became relevant to all of the above and then he started talking of finnis, who I was unfamiliar with. When I looked him up, out popped gorsuch.

Beware of jurists with a normative, transformative vision for all of us is probably a good motto.

[peter]

Hell, maybe Lenin's embalmers are looking for a project

[henry]

It’s full on war. Dems are not winning.

@chadpergram

Letter from DoJ to Hse Judiciary Cmte Chairman Nadler. Says DoJ won’t provide witnesses to testify. Says Democratic members “use their allotted time to air grievances.” Says Dems “squandered its opportunity to conduct a meaningful oversight hearing with the Attorney General”

[Another Bob]

GUS, your friend Bubba Wallace, who announced he’s leaving the Richard Petty team, announced he’ll be driving for a newly-formed team - Hamlin-Jordan.

The Hamlin is Denny Hamlin, another driver in the series.

The Jordan is Michael Jordan, ‘da Bulls.

Hamlin drives a Toyota for Joe Gibbs’ team (yes that’s the old Redskins coach), so I assume the new team will use Toyota too, but that’s TBD.