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October 05, 2020

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jim nj

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-10-covid-doesnt-scarce-reagents-infectious.html

New COVID test doesn't use scarce reagents, catches all but the least infectious

92% accurate - it misses some very low viral loads. Sounds more like a feature than a bug.

Barbara

jim nj,

That PJ Media article is heartbreaking.

jim nj

Barbara,

The cop speaking out? It just confirmed to me what I had already been thinking. Police officers are, subtracting the few poor ones, perfectly rational. They respond as you would expect given the stimuli they are subjected to.

jim nj

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2020/10/05/whs-mcenany-on-covid-diagnosis-im-feeling-great-im-having-no-symptoms/

Pinandpuller

Seeing as how America is not a democracy, what country are you talking about?

Also, considering that over half our states have some form of anti-BDS law, who’s trying to suppress American’s voices?

Really makes you think.

Elections are the cornerstone of our democracy.

Iran is attempting to undermine the voice of the American people.

The Iranian regime cannot be trusted.

https://twitter.com/aipac/status/1313206407869669376?s=21

Pinandpuller

The only reason I could see to buy a national newspaper these days is for a Proof of Life picture.

anonamom

I don’t need a script I can just go to the pharmacy and the pharmacist does it.

Well, yes, in theory.

The fact is, for some reason, it is almost IMPOSSIBLE to find Shingrix stock--so EVERY time you are by a pharmacy, try to get it. It's taken many of my friends about a year to finally get it and be done from when they begin their mission.

Here's the locator:

https://www.shingrix.com/shingles-vaccine-locator.html

It requires a second dose within (?) three months of the first, so when pharmacies do get some, they often are saving for their customers who need dose two.

If you haven't got it--get on it people!
Melinda is downplaying the eye thing--it's not just inconvenient--it can cost you your sight.

And it's not uncommon to have it cause residual pain for life, if not aggressively treated when it first causes skin lesions.

anonamom


Who gave it to whom???

https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/10/05/heres-a-new-possibility-as-to-the-origin-of-virus-exposure-to-white-house-officials/

James D.

COMMERCIAL.

"JOE BIDEN knows what it's like to send a child to war".

Yes THOUSANDS of YOUR children.

The response should be:

And Donald Trump knows what it’s like not to send a child to a war we have no reason to fight and no intention of trying to win. Unlike Joe Biden, who has plenty of experience at that.”

anonamom

Something I hadn't considered. Commenter at Powerline:

The unhelpful factors include mayors and governors accelerating vote fraud. They might even put some Republican election districts on COVID-19 lockdown...because they can.
That's one reason why the Supreme Court judicial appointment is urgent.

Didn't Cuomo or de Blasio institute some very specific (?by zip code) restrictions yesterday or the day before?
In the areas the Orthodox Jews live???
Orthodox Jews vote Trump, right???

Manuel Transmission

One of the advantages of a small town, our pharmacist is a pal from our little yacht club and she calls us when a batch arrives and sets up an appointment. Got both shots of the new stuff this year. Sore arm was about the only side affect. Mrs MT was a bit worse off. Maybe 3-4 days.

jimmyk

I saw Clarice linking this on Twitter, so it was probably linked and discussed here, but if so I missed it:

The Great Barrington Declaration

It's preamble is:

As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Looks good to me. Dr. Jay Bhattacharya is one of the originators.

anonamom

MT--what has you up so early???

anonamom

jimmy k--I signed it, and sent it out widely.
First online thing I've ever signed.

You should too --there's a box for fancy academic titles, to add gravitas.

Manuel Transmission

Amom, we generally head to bed fairly early, nine-ish. I often wake after 5-6 hrs, read a bit and then doze off until 7-8. I think it was discussed here a long time ago that two-shift sleep cycles were common back before electricity. My best problem solving slips out in the early hours. I think it is part of my dream cycle that is more like night class grinding than movie scripts.

jimmyk

I will, amom. I especially liked this:

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

It drives me a little crazy when these universities brag about their low case rates among students, obtained from ruining the experiences (and mental health) of the young and healthy, and which in fact are socially harmful, since delaying herd immunity by isolating the young increases the risk to the most vulnerable.

anonamom

MT--I was going to tell you "go back to bed", but it sounds like you do!
I woke at 2:15 yesterday--finally gave up at 4 (since the alarm was going to buzz in twenty minutes anyway). But on non work days, I do love being able to do the second cycle.
That is what I look forward to with retirement--no alarm.

Yesterday reminded me of what a poor substitute caffeine is for sleep.

anonamom

jimmy k--thanks for posting that.
Not sure where I saw it yesterday--I think from my Twitter feed--but your post this morning reminded me of a number of other people I could make aware of it.
It would be impressive to get 10, 20 , 50 K signatories on it, wouldn't it???

MissMarple2

Good morning!

If I was a 74 year old man who spent 3 days in the hospital listening to the media assuring my citizens that I was dying, this is exactly the determined look of vengeance and retribution I'd give to my enemies.
pic.twitter.com/HQgprY6qZz

— Rising serpent 🇺🇸 (@rising_serpent) October 6, 2020

Video at the link.

jimmyk

I seem to be unable to get that "second sleep." Typically I wake up every 2 hours or so, but after around 6 hours cumulatively that's it. Maybe that's all I need.

jimmyk

It would be impressive to get 10, 20 , 50 K signatories on it, wouldn't it???

amom, I think they're already over 20K. My only hesitation was that I'd like to be able to put myself in the "Public Health Scientists" category rather than "General Public," on the basis of my math modeling and data skillz, plus some research I'm doing, but I don't have actual publications yet, just an NSF grant proposal.

Jane

Thanks Amom for the vaccine info.

Jimmy, how are your parents?


Tried to sign the petition but I failed the captcha. Good thing I’m off to the eye doctor!

MissMarple2

Interesting about those 2 sleep cycles. I woke at 3:15 after a very detailed dream about attending an antique auction, and then went back to bed at 4:30.

That time I dreamed the kittens were back, only there were 7, and someone else dropped off 7 puppies, related but showing different gene pool heritage, everything from Irish setter to bulldog. Also a very realistic dream.

henry

Maybe we can escape to a better planet.

https://nypost.com/2020/10/05/astronomers-discover-24-planets-more-habitable-than-earth/

MissMarple2

He's up!

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Wow. Joe Biden just took a more Liberal position on Roe v. Wade than Elizabeth Warren at her highest. He also wants to PACK our great United States Supreme Court. This is what the Dems will do. Remember as they try changing positions before elections end. GET OUT AND VOTE!

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Biden and Democrats just clarified the fact that they are fully in favor of (very) LATE TERM ABORTION, right up until the time of birth, and beyond - which would be execution. Biden even endorsed the Governor of Virginia, who stated this clearly for all to hear. GET OUT & VOTE!!!

Thomas Collins

I grew up in RI, and have worked and resided in Ohio and Massachusetts, where I currently work and reside.

jimmyk

Jane, thanks for asking. Mom's getting discharged today, apparently, after 5 days of treatment and tests for her afib. She seems fine. Dad is still hospitalized (day 12), awaiting a procedure where they drain fluid from his lungs. The delay is that he has to have been off his blood thinner for 5 days. But he seems ok aside from getting forced oxygen--eating, chatting with the nurses.

MissMarple2

Perhaps people who cringe at President Trump's use of Twitter might consider that he at least doesn't say jerky stuff like this:

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/some-black-woman-video-of-joe-biden-saying-why-people-stayed-home-during-pandemic-goes-viral

MissMarple2

Sounds pretty antisemitic. https://t.co/gt73VU1PGA

— 🇺🇸 Cory Groshek 🇺🇸🐸 (@CoryGroshek) October 6, 2020

Video at the link.

Melinda

AMom-

I also have the added complication of Graves with eye. I'm keenly aware of my situation and why I went to the Ophthalmology Dept at Northwestern for the half the day, yesterday. It's not my custom to share these kind of details, nor personal risks. Just the upside that the vaccine may, I repeat, may have mitigated some of those risks.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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Flu season is coming up! Many people every year, sometimes over 100,000, and despite the Vaccine, die from the Flu. Are we going to close down our Country? No, we have learned to live with it, just like we are learning to live with Covid, in most populations far less lethal!!!

Manuel Transmission

TC, always enjoyed our time in RI. Pals in Warwick and many days in Newport and on boats in the area. Jr went to Navy Prep at the War College and we came dangerously close to buying the old firehouse in Newport as a second home. Someone beat us to it and did just what we had in mind. Our final landing on the opposite coast was a better choice for us. Cooler summers and warmer winters.

Melinda

Meanwhile, in "Big Physics" news, (from ZH your only needed News AND propaganda site (Where You HAVE to decide which is which by clicking through, if you dare!))::

https://news.mit.edu/2020/physics-fusion-studies-0929

From here:

https://www.zerohedge.com/energy/mit-scientists-nuclear-fusion-energy-could-be-closer-thought

Might be the same track the Skunkwork team's chasing, not sure....

MissMarple2

https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/state-dept-officials-told-they-broke-law-monitoring

henry

Waukesha up, Milwaukee down in voter registrations. Milwaukee votes 75% Dem, so a drop of 20,000 voters means something like -10,000 in margin for Dems there. That is bigger than the statewide margin of victory. (Granted this is registered voters, not the real thing).

https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/wisconsin-voter-registration-up-milwaukee-down-compared-to-2016

MissMarple2

Thread by John Hayward of Breitbart, discussing the Democrat addiction to fear:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1313450368005795842.html

Porchlight

That is interesting henry. Have Biden and surrogates spent much time in WI lately? They seem to be hanging out in PA and MI and occasionally FL.

Someone noticed this in the comments at People's Pundit (Richard Baris) twitter:

mmaschin2 @mmaschin2 · 14h Replying to @Peoples_Pundit If you go to Real Clear Politics and look for their OH Presidential polls there are, relative to 2016, very few poll.

Why is that?

The answer to that question is, people are not paying for polls of Ohio.

Why would that be? Hmmm.....

Suggests Ohio is wrapped up for Trump.

MissMarple2

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/biden-wins-over-pennsylvania-union-leaders-worried-about-his-climate-plan

Yeah, right. I wonder how much money changed hands.

henry

Porch, yes. Biden (both) and Harris have been here quite a bit given Kenosha pandering opportunities. Trump surrogates have been all over as well.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--COMMERCIAL.

"JOE BIDEN knows what it's like to send a child to war".
--

Why? Because he watched other people do it? There is no commander-in-chief-junior position. The VP is not in the chain of command.
Does he think it is because he's demented or is he just a liar?

henry

Nice lists.

@maciverwisc

A new report from the @PILFoundation looks at potential voter fraud across the country. Wisconsin makes several of the top 10 lists - “CRITICAL CONDITION - VOTER ROLLS FILLED W/ ERRORS, DEAD VOTERS &” Read the report here: publicinterestlegal.org/files/Report-C… @HvonSpakovsky

https://twitter.com/maciverwisc/status/1313459813150588929?s=21

MissMarple2

⁦To @JoeBiden⁩ & campaign,Telling young African American girls “I want to see you dancing when you’re 4 years older” is not only creepy but racist!⁦#nowiseewhyyoureinthebasement ⁦⁦@TuckerCarlson⁩ ⁦@FoxNews@seanhannity⁩ ⁦@DonaldJTrumpJr⁩ ⁦⁦ pic.twitter.com/H5u1BCSJqC

— Herschel Walker (@HerschelWalker) October 6, 2020

Video at the link.

Buckeye

Last I heard, Ohio was +5 Trump.

Another Bob

“ almost IMPOSSIBLE to find Shingrix stock”

Still? I got my two last year and had the impression the shortage was over.

MissMarple2

The Associated Press
@AP
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11m
From AP Morning Wire:

• Still infectious, Trump back to White House — maskless.
• WHO: 760M may have been infected by virus.
• US Democrats now deeper into suburbia.
• Epic scale of Calif. wildfires grows, single fire burns 1M acres.

SIGN UP: http://apne.ws/9MMBkhi
===========================================
Judging from the bullet points, it looks to me like there is nary a mention of China or the CCP. Gee, I wonder why?

Neo

The Great Barrington Declaration argues that #COVID19 #lockdowns should be replaced with Focused Protection.
https://mobile.twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1313096570590638081

Another Bob

“Still infectious”? Who says?

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Maybe we can escape to a better planet.--

That would be selfish. I think maybe a better plan would be to build vast fleets of spaceships to send our dimwitted prog friends and neighbors to that far, far better place.
Sounds like a good idea for a Science Fiction story.

James D.

Ig, according to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, that's already happened - it's how the Earth got populated in the first place.

Threadkiller

To @JoeBiden⁩ & campaign,Telling young African American girls “I want to see you dancing when you’re 4 years older”

I’ve been spreading that video around and have been promoting it as creepy and icky even though I actually think Biden was trying to make some clever statement that he will be back in four years because he will be running for a second term.

It really is more “doddering old fool” than “child rapist,” but I don’t care.

Their mudslinging rules..

Old Lurker

Iggy "I think maybe a better plan would be to build vast fleets of spaceships to send our dimwitted prog friends and neighbors to that far, far better place."

Or even better, I'd offer them all to those guys at MIT for their fusion machine Mel posted at 8:21. Turn them all into Helium.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I used to have difficulty getting that second sleep.
Two Benadryl capsules and a melatonin a couple of hours before I want to go to sleep does the trick.

clarice

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/10/biggest-mask-hypocrites-wear-masks-daniel-greenfield/

MissMarple2

Time to bustle around and get some work done. Will check in after while.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I was referring to The Marching Morons by CM Kornbluth.
A manipulative 20th century salesman/huckster is transported to a future Idiocracy where a small band of productive smart people are forced to keep the whole world of consumptive imbeciles afloat and they don't know how to get out of it.
He tells them that if they make him king of the world he'll solve their problem. Devises a sales pitch telling the morons that Venus is the new fun spot and they load them all onto rockets to Venus.
Unfortunately the smart guys hate everyone from the past who made such a miserable world and so they load him onto the last rocket ship bound for the Venusian utopia.

jimmyk

Two Benadryl capsules and a melatonin a couple of hours before I want to go to sleep does the trick.

I haven't found melatonin to be obviously effective. Benadryl works but I don't want to depend on it, and it leaves me groggier than usual when I wake up. I have a stash of Ambien but I also try to avoid that, though it works amazingly well (even just a half or quarter of a 10mg pill).

anonamom

Mel, you and your peeps are on it, no doubt--it's usually when people do NOT realize the ramifications of delay that the downsides can occur.

One of my very young (?40) partners had it in her eye a few years ago, and was meeting her opthy at the office every 2 hours around the clock for about 36 hours for an exam, from whatever was happening--which I will never forget.

Opthys don't have too much in the way of "true emergencies," but that must have been one, and certainly was enormous dedication!
I'm seeing in jane's crew as well.

Melinda

I originally thought it was an overnight spider bite, since it tis the season for them to come in from the cold.

I was wrong.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--I haven't found melatonin to be obviously effective. Benadryl works but I don't want to depend on it, and it leaves me groggier than usual when I wake up.--

For me melatonin works but it also lasts longer, staying in my system a good 12 hours. Benadryl is more like eight or ten. So I try to take them by 7PM or so and by the time I'm going the next morning I don't really feel them anymore.
They make me less groggy than waking up at 2:30 or 3 and not being able to go back to sleep.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Opthys don't have too much in the way of "true emergencies,"--

They do around Christmas. :)

anonamom

Glad it works for you Ig, but Benadryl has a long half life in most people, and starts leaving them feeling yucky during the day after a few days of consecutive use.

hrtshpdbox

FWIW, I take two Benadryl and an Aleve every night. Besides putting me to sleep, I haven't had my seasonal allergy problems either since starting on the Benadryl.

Old Lurker

And Benadryl for sleep might not be addictive, but it sure is habit forming.

Ask me how I know.

clarice

Get a long boring book on kindle. Read it until your eyes close. Sleep.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Benadryl has never had any noticeable effect on my minor allergy symptoms so that may be why it doesn't leave me groggy feeling.

Old Lurker

Clarice at 10:12 reveals exactly how I broke my habit. When the Kindle hits me in the nose twice, I turn it off.

Buckeye

And Benadryl for sleep might not be addictive, but it sure is habit forming.

Ask me how I know.

I know how you know:)

anonamom

This is why "YMMV" goes w the Benadryl!

There is a big variation in half life , depending on genetics. (How much cytochrome P450 one has, and it's activity level)

The liver metabolizes diphenhydramine via CYP450. It is excreted in the urine, unchanged, and has a half-life of 3.4-9.2h.

GUS

Henry, beam me up SCOTTIE, this planet sucks.

hrtshpdbox

If I feel groggy I just chug coffee and diet cokes, it's part of my comprehensive health planning.

Dave (in MA)

I was on a waiting list for Shingrix for almost a year until sometime in 2019.

MissMarple2

This is why I take a couple of glasses of wine in the evening and listen to podcasts on You Tube.

I am afraid I am going to have to take a couple of aspirin because my arthritis in my knees is acting up, no doubt courtesy of a front moving through.

Melinda

And NMH has an Urgent Care group for just this kind of stuff. My 2nd visit. 1st on I learned about Blue/Hazel genetic tendencies for Styes.

Ralph L

Since we're talking about drugs, I started Lipitor in August, and my lips and nipples are a bit red, swollen, and raw. My doctor wasn't terribly concerned. Anyone else have that reaction?

BeastsEngland

You old farts with your darned medicines... 😜

MissMarple2

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rochester-mayor-pleads-not-guilty-and-refuses-to-resign-after-being-hit-with-campaign-finance-charges

Democrat named Lovely Warren.

Her mother should have been indicted for that name.

Jane

Amom.

Just met with a new eye doctor, this one for the ginormous cataract that has now formed. Could have it operated on in a week. (Wouldn't want to let a month pass without surgery). Really liked him. Eye doctors for me have been the kindest, and nicest doctors I've ever met in Florida. They keep asking me who my primary is, and I can't remember, because I met her once for about 5 minutes and was utterly unimpressed.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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1m
FEELING GREAT!

============================================

All caps to trigger those who bitched about it yesterday.

GUS

Busy morning for me. I went to KROGER/PICKNSAVE for Progesso soup. .99 a can, I bought plent.
But I was looking for my favorite flavor, BEER BARLEY, and the BLACK WOMAN stocking the shelves was very very helpful. Did I mention she was black?? So then I went down to the ACE HARDWARD STORE nearby and asked where I could find the LIGHT BULBS. The manager pointed to a BLACK GUY and said, he's our light bulb guy. He helped. And his name tag said THOMAS E.

MissMarple2

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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2m
I am looking forward to the debate on the evening of Thursday, October 15th in Miami. It will be great!

GUS

Jane, seems like you see EYE TO EYE with your new Doctor. All the best to you.

henry

Black officer this time... the peaceful protests don’t care.

@vickimckennw

Wauwatosa braces for #BLM violence ahead of the charging decision on Officer Joseph Mensah's line-of-duty shooting. Report from the field: "It’s massive. Everywhere around North Ave, Theater area. Also boarding up Bicycle shop and Walters area buildings" Gird your loins, Tosa.

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1313480443837190146?s=21

GUS

Did any of you notice how LOVELY WARREN has high cheek bones?????
She looks like she'd be fantastic stocking shelves.

MissMarple2

I love you @montaga! 😍Always on point! Truth resides with you! “Where is Hunter?” Hiding in daddy’s basement?🤔Inquiring minds want to know, @JoeBiden! #WheresHunter #VoteRedToSaveAmerica ❤️🇺🇸❤️#DemsAreDestroyingAmerica

pic.twitter.com/dvJjSBZkjv

— Pam Sands 🇺🇸⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️🇺🇸 (@pam_sands) October 5, 2020

50-second video at the link. I believe Montaga knows BS when he hears it.

GUS

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-he-campaigns-for-president-joe-biden-tells-a-moving-but-false-war-story/2019/08/29/b5159676-c9aa-11e9-a1fe-ca46e8d573c0_story.html

Notice a pattern with the stories this bloviating fuktard recites??? Yes you do.

MissMarple2

This is what @OliverDarcy and @BrianStelter call "neutral, straight news" reporting.https://t.co/sYWL89kgyZ

— David Henry (@imau2fan) October 6, 2020

Video at the link with voice of Jim Acosta.

asw

Two superstars on what causes heart disease - Ivor Cummins and Dr Malcom Kendrick. This is long but worth every minute.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wkxp-l2c68&list=FLhOOczaoger8PKjzhgA8eng&index=1&t=150s

GUS

Henry, I know Johnson's bike shop, the Tosa Theater, and I've had way way way too many beers at Walters. As most of you know, I grew up in Wauwatosa.

DrJ

The Nobel Prize in Physics was awarded:

Three scientists from the U.K., Germany and the U.S. shared the Nobel Prize in Physics on Tuesday, for discoveries about black holes that uncovered “the darkest secrets of the universe.”

British astrophysicist Roger Penrose (Oxford) was awarded one half of the prize by the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, and German Reinhard Genzel (Max Planck) and American Andrea Ghez (UCLA) shared the other half.

For me the most interesting one is tomorrow (Chemistry).

Jane

When are the ones Trump is nominated for announced? Wonder if they will choose Biden instead.

Old Lurker

DrJ "for discoveries about black holes that uncovered “the darkest secrets of the universe.”

If we have learned anything since the Age of Einstein, no "dark secret of the universe" is THE dark secret. "One of..." or "Next...", but never "the".

MissMarple2

I am a happy woman. Not only is Trump my President. but I have Carlos Osweda to nuke Maureen Dowd!

Thread:

https://twitter.com/COsweda/status/1313314449785196544

Wrapped version:

https://threader.app/thread/1313314449785196544


Old Lurker

Jane, The Peace Prize is at the Oscars, right?

:-)

Captain Hate

I need some iPad and iPhone advice. I have a lot of music stored in folders in the FLAC format on my iClouds and on the devices themselves. The only way I can listen to them is one song at a time, which is a pain if I'm running it through my stereo. I've tried to find an app that makes playlists but when it looks like I've found something good they either hit me immediately with having to sign up for some download service, which is exactly what I don't want from those shitheads and just dump it immediately, or tell me they can't connect to my iClouds and no clue as to how to do so.

Is there something any of you use for this or am I stuck with playing things one at a time?

GUS

I just noticed that R-G retweeted a tweet of mine.
Not even sure if he knows it was me.

peter

Big Mike at The Hill. (I read it so you don't have to.)

“Joe Biden has lived his life guided by values and principles that mirror ones that most Americans can recognize. I know Joe ... he’s a good man who understands the struggles of everyday folks.”

No word on whether she pronounced it shtruggles

GUS

Peter, she then left the gathering to sSSHHtock shelves at TARGET.

clarice

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/10/scotus-reinstates-south-carolina-witness-requirement-for-absentee-ballots/

clarice

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/10/06/who_wants_to_blow_up_our_constitution_its_not_trump_144374.html

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