Trump Hospitalized?!?

Let's hope this is just a sensible precaution. I've read there is a Presidential Suite at Walter Reed used exclusively by, believe it or not, the POTUS.

Trump is taking a Regeneron antibody cocktail drug that is still in trials. FDA has approved compassionate use for other patients (so they company says) and now for Trump.

Their Sept 29 upbeat press release with preliminary results is here.

Eli Lilly also has an antibody cocktail which worked well, so this medical decision made lots of sense. There results are also more comprehensible, as presented here:

Eli Lilly reports this morning interim results from a placebo-controlled trial of one such compound, cloned in quantity from an antibody captured from the blood of a patient who recovered from COVID-19. In June, the company began a trial delivering either placebo or one of three doses of the antibody, called LY-CoV555, to 452 patients. These were not gravely ill people, but patients with mild or moderate symptoms who had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within the past 3 days and had not been hospitalized.

Five of 302 patients who received the drug ended up being hospitalized—1.7%. But nine of the 150 placebo patients ended up in the hospital—6%—meaning there was a 72% reduced risk of being hospitalized for patients who received the antibody versus those who received a placebo. The drug produced no serious side effects, the company reports.

So - among people with mild to moderate symptoms (like Trump, so far) 94% on placebo avoid serious illness, versus 98.3% of those who got the Eli Lilly treatment. Great odds versus even better odds, in other words, although that is across a range of ages and pre-existing conditions.

Comments

[cathyf]

Damn got willowed!

Was talking to WonderBoy last night about the virus science that ND is doing. One of the most interesting things that they have done is that they are monitoring the sewage out of each dorm. When someone in a dorm is infected, it shows up there a good two days before they can get a positive nasal swab or spit test from anyone.

(Only the dorm residents and staff are allowed into any dorm right now.)

[JimNorCal]

"Great odds versus even better odds"
Most can live with this ...

[GUS]

Not Government approved yet. Do you mean DEEP STATE approved?

[Melinda]

cathyf-

Same science that Barcelona pulled when their samples showed the “Dreaded Virus” was present in March of 2019.

Inconvenient Data Point, Inc.

(Full disclosure, we were there the following September.(

[JimNorCal]

Posted by hoyden back thread, but for anyone skipping ahead ...

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/10/the-week-in-pictures-post-debate-edition-2.php

[henry]

The Cardinals with Gibson, Flood, etc were a fun team to grow up watching / listened to the World Series on a crystal radio during school. (Teacher just wanted updates on the score).

[cathyf]

What’s still unclear is what the significance is of the virus’s presence. Logically, you would expect immune people to shed the virus whenever they have been exposed during the period when their immune systems are doing away with the virus.

I’d love to know what you would find if you looked for parvovirus B16 (Fifth Disease) in a similar way. That’s a disease with a high level of immunity in the population where at least half the people who get infected are oblivious to the infection.

[GUS]

Bob Uecker won a ring with St. Louis in '64.
Back up catcher.
Bob Harlan former PRESIDENT of the PACKERS worked in the front office same year. Got a ring and 2 Super Bowl rings.

[Manuel Transmission]

A bit more on Ginormous Research after thinking about it after 35 yrs gone.

Battelle was unusual in that you had in my day essentially 3200 specialists with their own booths in a farmer’s market. Now it’s roughly the same in-house plus nearly 30,000 in the National labs it manages and a $6.2B annual budget.

A customer with a problem would get a team of two or twenty with the right skilz to solve that particular problem.

One week you solved the problem of a blast furnace stove in Aliquippa that shook all the fire bricks into a pile at the bottom of the stove when the burner was cranked up.

The next week you engineered an experiment on the Space Shuttle that explored growing synthetic collagen in micro-gravity.

After that, you measured the crickets chirping in a Lusianna swamp for a lame environmental impact statement to justify a new power plant.

Next you proved that tarring up a Yankee bat had no dynamic effect on hitting baseballs.

How about a sensor package that allowed a payload on the end of a boom on a barge bobbing around in heavy seas planting that payload on a ship deck without smashing everything in sight.

And the infamous Glomar Explorer that plucked the broken Ruskie sub off the floor of the Northern Pacific.

Of course, I already mentioned the GAU-8 Gatling gun gas diverter that Hoyden played with.

And those were just a few of the non-railroad projects I worked on. The RR stuff occupied prolly 90 pct of my time.

A few of the other things done there:

The sandwich coins that took out all the silver in our pocket change.
Developing the Xerox copy process invented by Chester Carlson (who the Swedes claim as one of their own even though he was born in Seattle).
Bar codes.
CD/DVD encoding.
Security threads in folding money.
Nuke fuel rods. Including first fuel for our subs.
Snopake!
No-melt chocolate.
Ceramic armor plate.
Tooth implants.
Inspection probes that find thin walls in nuke cooling tubes.

91 yrs X several thousand researchers = a lot of cool stuff.

[cathyf]

B19

(Damned dysgraphia!)

[Captain Hate]

I remember going to Battelle and talking to one of their guys on my residential end use model. I thought it was a pretty neat place to work except for being in Columbus. No slam on the locals, it was just too damn hot compared to Cleveland.

[Buckeye]

MT

My nephew Andy is really enjoying his work at Battelle. Sounds like his Internship morphed into long term.

[Buckeye]

except for being in Columbus. No slam on the locals, it was just too damn hot compared to Cleveland.

That’s why it works for those of us with Southern hillbilly blood.

Just like home:)

[MissMarple2]

I don't know how my daughter managed to do it, but these two half-grown kittens are the most energetic, acrobatic cats I have ever seen.

They jumped on the counter to see what I was doing when I was doing dishes, and they managed to remove the drain sieve off the shower! And it's not 11:00 AM yet!

[peter]

At the risk of drawing a sharp rebuke from the jazz hounds here (CH,) the new Diana Krall album is very nice.

[GUS]

Wisconsin's Ron Johnson had quarantined himself for 14 days after being "exposed" to someone who had themself been tested positive. He was finished with this quarantine, and was tested and found to be positive for SCARY CHINESE FLU.
He is asymptomatic. Draw your own conclusions.
It's a joke.

[MissMarple2]

I saw a pickup truck with an American flag and a Trump 2020 flag flying on poles at the back of the bed yesterday and today, on a cross street west of me, high on a pole at a lumber yard was another Trump 2020 sign.

I saved my Trump-Pence sign from 2016 and I think I will tape it on the inside of my back door of my SUV. It will probably make my daughter mad but she can live with it for a month.

[MissMarple2]

That was a flag at the lumber yard.

[Old Lurker]

I'm with you on DK, Peter.

[Captain Hate]

She's all yours, peter.

Buckeye, did you have any hundred degree days? We had a higher than average number of 90+ days but it stayed right around 90 and never exceeded 95 that I remember; so it was more uncomfortable than miserable.

[MissMarple2]

NOW the left is griping that Trump doesn't have a dog. Lord, I am SO tired of these people!

Reasons he might not have a dog:

1. Allergies
2. Too much traveling and different locations (hotels, golf courses, resorts)before campaigning, even.
3. Melania has allergies or a fear of dogs.

[Momto2]

Eric Trump and his wife have rescued several beagles. These people aren't even grasping at straws anymore if that is all they can gripe about!

[henry]

A note on Trump being treated with Pepcid for the Kung Flu (among other things). Last time I got treated for a bee sting, I got a shot of Pepcid via IV (by its drug name). Then told to take Pepcid every day for a week. It is an anti-inflammation treatment. Swelling went down in about 5 minutes, and breathing opened up just as quick.

[Jack Lillywhite]

11am presser from Trump’s medico.

[Old Lurker]

MM "I am SO tired of these people!"

word

[KevlarKid]

Trump may not own any dogs but he owns the Democrats. Cork soakin mutants.

[Buckeye]

CH

Neither Mrs. Buckeye nor I remember breaking 100 this summer, although high 90s pretty frequently.

We are about 20 miles north of city center, and is normally a few degrees cooler here than there.

[GUS]

SBW where are you??? I need you to read this utterly 6th grade writing. Notice something in the last sentence too. PLEASE.

https://wkow.com/2020/10/03/senator-ron-johnson-tests-positive-for-coronavirus/

[Buckeye]

Glad Trump’s doctor needled the press a bit with a smile on his face.

Bet Trump hand picked the guy.

[Narciso]

I went to a diana krall concert peter.

[BeastsEngland]

’I saw a pickup truck with an American flag and a Trump 2020 flag flying on poles at the back of the bed...’

A common occurrence in my area. Thank goodness, I’ll add!

~ ~ ~

Roll Tide!!

[Narciso]

Weasel:

https://mobile.twitter.com/TimMurtaugh/status/1312414271918178305

[Narciso]

Wombat

https://mobile.twitter.com/ErinMPerrine/status/1312413903352193027

[sbwaters]

Gus: Notice something in the last sentence too.

That’s easy. WKOW is ASSHOE!

[Jane]

Maybe Trump doesn’t want a dog!

Good Morning! Kiwi’s birthday is today! She’s 9 again. (I got it wrong last year)

[Jane]

Cam Newton has the virus

[KevlarKid]

Roseboro clipped Marichal's ear on his throwback to the mound. R is on tape saying it was a strat he worked out with Koufax in lieu of Koufax throwing at Marichal in retaliation for M putting Fairly and Wills on the deck in succession.

After Roseboro's first toss back to Koufax "behind Marichal from the crouch" M warned R "don't throw that ball at me." After next pitch R did it again and clipped his ear.

M turned to face R and R charged him. M pounded him good. Mays rushed in and got his friend R out of what became a brawl.

Folks make a lot of M's bat move and rightfully so. Little is ever said about the clip more than "Marichal claims"...The bat is a lethal weapon...but so is a baseball rifled from a crouch out to the mound which, had it hit Marichal on the rear side of the skull is point blank. A lethal weapon.

Marichal lost his cool. Roseboro got caught and was lucky Dominican justice dint kill him. He really never came clean about the ball contacting Marichal. He admitted to the scheme but the witnesses to his throwbacks were legion.

One Giant fan's perspective.

[GUS]

SBW, that entire, and very short story about RON JOHNSON was written as though the writer is still in high school.

[JimNorCal]

"Reasons (Trump) might not have a dog"

Doesn't own a car top carrier? :) :) (mitt)
Hasn't found any good recipes? (barrack)

[Narciso]

Like dr evils head table

https://amgreatness.com/2020/10/01/big-techs-backing-of-the-transition-integrity-project-lacks-integrity/

[hrtshpdbox]

Revenge of the Whale? Chris Christie tests positive for COVID, was part of Trump's debate prep team (Guiliani tests negative).

[JimNorCal]

"Cam Newton has the virus"

Looks like we are in a second wave ... are deaths and hospitalizations still trending down?

[sbwaters]

Gus, more precisely, correlation does not indicate causation.

AP does it all the time.

[mike in houston]

The World’s Largest Private Whiskey Collection Is Up For Auction

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kevingray/2020/10/02/the-worlds-largest-private-whiskey-collection-is-up-for-auction/#666c4e9f33d8

[Jack Lillywhite]

At the Gators v Gamecocks game looks like they have a limitation on crowd size at Ben Hill stadium.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

LOL, jimsunnyvale.

[Narciso]

The hotde pointed out that the breonna taylor grand jury was much less clear cut than was described initially.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Deaths are still trending down and are slightly above the lows of early July.
Hospitalizations are at a trough that is slightly above the lows of mid June.
Both trends are down significantly from the secondary peaks in late July/early August.

[Dave (in MA)]

'Source Familiar With' Alert

A source familiar with Trump's health told reporters: “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care. We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”

https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1312430936294739968

[Narciso]

Surprise otters

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeConchaTV/status/1312433649636302854

[Narciso]

We were on the same wavelength dave

[Captain Hate]

Thanks for that explanation, KK. That was a dumb agreement with Koufax. Gibson would've never had McCarver do that when he could buzz the hitter himself and then face the music himself at bat.

[Jack Lillywhite]

Yep! 20% crowd limitation at Ben Hill Griffin stadium for Florida game.

At least it is not 0%.

[Dave (in MA)]

Mollie@MZHemingway
·

This is the worst possible media at the worst possible time to be covering an unfolding event with massive implications. They could not be more ill-suited to the moment. Their behavior over the last four years by itself has been unconscionable. Now? Nightmare scenario.

[Narciso]

A little pinch of salt

https://mobile.twitter.com/dmartosko/status/1312430129071652869

[Narciso]

Heres another snippet

https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1312298058328076288

[Narciso]

They got lost in traffic
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/03/us/murder-hornets-colony-Washington-state.html

[Dave (in MA)]

Some remain credulous,

https://twitter.com/Tom_Maguire/status/1312437072553107456

Had to login twice in about 15 min.

[Old Lurker]

Dave I do not believe that source knows anything.

[Narciso]

But they are very confident about what they dont know.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Doctors, Nurses and ALL at the GREAT Walter Reed Medical Center, and others from likewise incredible institutions who have joined them, are AMAZING!!!Tremendous progress has been made over the last 6 months in fighting this PLAGUE. With their help, I am feeling well!

1:19 PM · Oct 3, 2020

[Narciso]

What say you nate aluminum

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1312361383930081281

[anonamom]

It is an anti-inflammation treatment.

It's a histamine blocker. Benadryl blocks H1 receptors, Pepcid H2. So it blocks the swelling and itching that circulating histamine can cause.

A week is rather generous for a sting. Though my three day old mosquito is still itchy!

[Another Bob]

Per Conley this morning, fever-free since Friday morning and not on oxygen.

[Jim Eagle]

Sure, he is 74 and overweight, which is offset by being POTUS and gets the gold standard of medical care in the world.

[hrtshpdbox]

Dave I do not believe that source knows anything.

Mark Meadows? Isn't he in the room with Trump, practically?

[Narciso]

The anonymous source in nprs report. But its like the russian bounties or the funeral in france.

[Another Bob]

Dave (in MA) | October 03, 2020 at 12:59 PM

Yep. And almost literally everyone in the media is parsing every syllable of every announcement finding the holes in which to inject "Trump is lying".

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Back in the day grudges were grudges and none greater than the Dodgers-Giants rivalry. Marichal still pisses me off on general principles as a Dodgers fan. I think I had every Dodger and Angel baseball card from @ 1960 onwards. My brother traded the whole collection for a skateboard.

Now they have fake fights and all retreat to their cubbies and then their bubbles. They have lost contact with the underlying camaraderie and bickering of what sports used to be.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

This is truth;

[MissMarple2]

Scanning through Twitter I want to say this:

There are truly evil people in the world and they will gain power if the President isn't re-elected. I don't really have an oar in the water as regards to taxes, or finance, or anything that is usually on the GOP platform.

What I see on Twitter is a lot of Evil, with a capital E. If you can't get relatives or friends to vote for President Trump, maybe get them to stay home. It is WRONG to wish for someone's death and to gloat over their illness.

I can't get over it.

[Art in Newport]

Some of those old Dodger-Giant games with Drysdale and Marichal pitching ... not a good day for anyone to be at bat.

[Another Bob]

Trump tweets are continuing.

But I think we've established he's not necessarily the only person tweeting from that account?

[BeastsEngland]

’...and gets the gold standard of medical care in the world.’

Thanks, ObamaCare!! 😜

[Barbara]

I think I had every Dodger and Angel baseball card from @ 1960 onwards.

Matt,

👊

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Too many to link, but I recommend a trip to the Babylon Bee. Between the debate and Trump with the flu there is much honey being made.
Ok just one with a whiff of Chuck Norris jokes to it;
Coronavirus Panics After Testing Positive For Trump

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
5m
OUR GREAT USA WANTS & NEEDS STIMULUS. WORK TOGETHER AND GET IT DONE. Thank you!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

OK, one more for MM;
Party That Wants To Run Your Healthcare Roots For Political Opponent To Die

[MissMarple2]

Thanks, Ignatz!

I don't know what the political leanings of the people on the Bee are, but at least they see some irony in the behavior of the left.

[anonamom]

A source familiar with Trump's health told reporters: “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care. We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”

That is total BS.

It is INSANE to be talking about "full recovery" at this point in time, when he is barely ill. This disease takes a ZILLION different paths; no one can speak with any kind of authority about any one patient.
There is no "typical" anything about its course, that would allow an informed person to be speculating about outcomes.

What will be, will be.

Ignore these anonymous sources, unless your kid or niece happens to be POTUS's senior medical resident in the unit.
And MD-- not nurse, not PA, not NP, not pharmacist.
The person RESPONSIBLE for making the decisions about his care. Who will have the whole picture, not a piece of it.

[KevlarKid]

source familiar with Trump's health told reporters: “The president’s vitals over the last 24 hours were very concerning and the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care. We’re still not on a clear path to a full recovery.”

Here's an OH JUST FUCK THE HELL OFF alert.

[MissMarple2]

He probably got the virus because he doesn't have a DOG!

That was their gripe this morning. I think it was to bury the leak from the hospital that he was charming and nice to the staff. Couldn't have THAT!

[peter]

Wretchard wrote his column again.🥱

[Another Bob]

We've certainly seen the "medical professionals" be completely willing to participate in misleading the public.

[KevlarKid]

Marichal was pretty effective against dem Bums:

37-18 with a 2.36 ERA against the Dodgers all time. In 64 games, he whiffed 305 and walked 93, while pitching ten shutouts against the Dodgers.

[Jim Eagle]

In Re: Dodgers-Giants.

I met Johnny Podres in Lake Placid, NY after he pitched the Bums to their first WS. My Dad was stationed at Plattsburgh AFB north of Lake Placid. And he being a Long Island man was a Dodger fan. There was no way he wouldn't go done to see Podres.

Being in full USAF uniform with hat with scrambled eggs and silver oak leafs on his shoulder caused Podres to walk direct to him. When my Dad said he was a Long Island life-long Dodgers fan, Podres gave him a baseball signed by the 1955 WS winning team. Johnny was MVP of the series.

That was the one with the great Sandy Amoros catch on the left field line.

When they and the Giants moved to CA, I stopped supporting them.

[MissMarple2]

Here's a beautiful segment from Laura Ingraham from last night. And by the way, at 10:06 PM there were people outside of Walter Reed waving Trump and American flags, and to whoever did that, my thanks to them for letting him know that the evil people aren't out there wishing him harm.

I know President Trump is not Catholic, but in our faith yesterday [Oct. 2] was the Feast of the Guardian Angels. Everybody is praying for his speedy recovery and those angels are watching over him. pic.twitter.com/KMBp4nuwQW

— Laura Ingraham (@IngrahamAngle) October 3, 2020

[KevlarKid]

Does "the dogma live deep within" Laura Ingraham?

IHTFP

[joan]

anonamom,

You posted about Pepcid, the D and C, and also mentioned this:

"ASA helps keeps clots from propagating."

What is ASA? Aspirin? I'm not familiar or am simply thickheaded and can't figure out what ASA stands for.

Thanks for an answer.

[DrJ]

I'm not a-mom, but I assume that it means acetylsalicylic acid, A/K/A aspirin.

[anonamom]

aspirin

[Dave (in MA)]

Two of my cats are on Famitodine (Pepcid), which has become hard to find, and the last two times I found any it was about the same size as a baby aspirin, less than half the normal size, so I've had to master cutting the tiny 10mg pills into 2½mg pieces that the vet calls for. Maybe I can become a diamond cutter.

[GUS]

I think Ingraham was required to join AMY BARRETT'S
cult as part of her RCI.

[Barbara]

Happy Birthday Kiwi!

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/chris_wallace_caps_a_bad_week_with_a_strange_attack_against_scott_atlas.html

[lurkersusie]

Very nice video of Trump supporters

(1) Henry Rodgers on Twitter: "Wow. Washington DC. You don’t see this everyday. A TON of Trump supporters: https://t.co/lPNQnfvnsV" / Twitter

[joan]

cathyf: Do adults get 5th Disease, as well as children? Years ago when our son was in pre-K or K in Greenville, SC, he came down with this rash (mostly on legs) and a fever, I took him to the doctor and he didn't know what it was. Told me to give him liquid children's aspirin, he might have mentioned Tylenol, don't remember. (This was in about 1974.)

The doctor was in a group with two or three other pediatricians. Some days later, our little toddler daughter broke out in the rash on her cheeks and legs. I took her to the pediatrician's office and we saw the same doctor. He had a diagnosis that trip -- 5th Disease; and he proudly said, 'I think I saw one of the first cases here in Greenville, a little boy a few days ago. We're just getting familiar with this thing.' The little boy had to be our son because at that visit he'd said, 'I don't think it's anything' -- he gave me no diagnosis, just said to watch him.

It had to be our son. The man didn't remember me as the boy's mother. :) I guess their group had a lot of mothers in and out. :) I didn't tell him I was probably the mother of that little boy. I just shook my head admiringly.

Anyway, I've never forgotten that, and any time I see the words '5th Disease', I think of those visits.

[joan]

Dave(inMA), I just ordered the Pepcid on amazon.

I had told myself that I was going to dial back on using amazon and switch to Walmart, but it's almost automatic for me to use amazon. I joined Prime when it started and thought it was wonderful service.

[JimNorCal]

Dave(MA)'s 2;16 if you didn't click.

TM's twitter:
"For his age and obesity, Trump has a 64.7% chance of hospitalization, 31.7% of death.
KEY CAVEAT: That's based on US history from CDC"

One respondent notes that hospitalization odds have risen to 100%. Duh.

I'm still going with 95% chance of survival LOL

[lurkersusie]

Interesting

Cleveland Officials Traced COVID Cases Back to the Debate... Before Trump Was On-site

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethbaumann/2020/10/03/cleveland-officials-say-at-least-11-coronavirus-cases-can-be-traced-back-to-debate-planning-n2577413