Trump Hospitalized?!?

Let's hope this is just a sensible precaution. I've read there is a Presidential Suite at Walter Reed used exclusively by, believe it or not, the POTUS.

Trump is taking a Regeneron antibody cocktail drug that is still in trials. FDA has approved compassionate use for other patients (so they company says) and now for Trump.

Their Sept 29 upbeat press release with preliminary results is here.

Eli Lilly also has an antibody cocktail which worked well, so this medical decision made lots of sense. There results are also more comprehensible, as presented here:

Eli Lilly reports this morning interim results from a placebo-controlled trial of one such compound, cloned in quantity from an antibody captured from the blood of a patient who recovered from COVID-19. In June, the company began a trial delivering either placebo or one of three doses of the antibody, called LY-CoV555, to 452 patients. These were not gravely ill people, but patients with mild or moderate symptoms who had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within the past 3 days and had not been hospitalized.

Five of 302 patients who received the drug ended up being hospitalized—1.7%. But nine of the 150 placebo patients ended up in the hospital—6%—meaning there was a 72% reduced risk of being hospitalized for patients who received the antibody versus those who received a placebo. The drug produced no serious side effects, the company reports.

So - among people with mild to moderate symptoms (like Trump, so far) 94% on placebo avoid serious illness, versus 98.3% of those who got the Eli Lilly treatment. Great odds versus even better odds, in other words, although that is across a range of ages and pre-existing conditions.

Comments

[GUS]

I guess it should be pointed out that MAGUIRE is no DR ATLAS.

[MissMarple2]

Well, the kids came and picked up trash and cut down the hydrangeas for the year. They also wanted one of the kittens so I said it was ok, then caught holy hell when I called my daughter because she thinks they are too young (the kittens) and I thought it was ok because she was going to take them all to the shelter tomorrow.

I never do anything right. Oh well.

[GUS]

Lovely Miss M. Clearly, your daughter needs some counseling at the least.

[Jane]

LS,

Seems it’s being traced back to the event nominating ACB. Was debate planning before that?

[Old Lurker]

A-mom "Ignore these anonymous sources, unless your kid or niece happens to be POTUS's senior medical resident in the unit."

And those of us here whose kids are doctors know that none of our kids would tell us squat about any actual patient, much less a VIP. When YL2 was at Columbia Med, a student in the Med School was, I think, kicked out for just accessing the EMRs of Bill Clinton when he had his heart trouble.

If I needed a scrip called in, I would get it much easier from A-mom than from YL2.

[boris]

Kittens should be with their mom for about 5 wks.

Unless their mom is also going to the shelter don't see what the problem would be. Kittens get homes pretty easy, so shelter for them is likely okay, but if mom is going there her future could be at risk.

[KevlarKid]

Kiwi! Let 'er rip. Get the keys! 😎

[MissMarple2]

GUS,

My daughter does have a counselor/physician. Any more I would be breaching privacy.

[hrtshpdbox]

Dave MA, what does pepcid do for your cats? My cat is completely congested almost all of the time, snores like a sailor, and the vet can't do anything except suggest a cat scan (not kidding, and they want 3k for it, and I don't have pet insurance).

[MissMarple2]

boris,

The mom is going, too, so I will advise daughter of that. The Mom cat brought the kittens here and she hangs around the patio door because my daughter feeds them.

The kittens are strong because my daughter gave the mom pregnant cat food and then she bought high-nutrient kitten food which the kittens have been eating.

[MissMarple2]

One thing I will say: since the cats started hanging around last year, we have had no mouse problems!

[MissMarple2]

https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-elections-racial-injustice-1bf55880ceae5f3d8fa1d731003ec88e

The URL really has nothing to do with the article.

Headline:

National Guard taps units for rapid response to civil unrest

One thing I have to say: if my mother had named me LOLITA like this reporter, I think I would have used my initials or my middle name as a by line. GOOD GRIEF!

[Jane]

If you can give a kitten to a person instead of putting it in a shelter, that seems like a big win!

[MissMarple2]

Jane,

That si what I thought, too.

[hrtshpdbox]

I had to take care of a mouse living on the third floor (converted attic) that the cat was completely unconcerned about.

[boris]

I think any cat that has lived outdoors will hunt mice.

[Jane]

Kev, Barbara,

Kiwi says “woof woof”

[MissMarple2]

hrtshpdbox,

Did you mean take care of the mouse like eliminate him, or take care of him like feed and water him?

I prefer how the mice won't even approach the house here. Otherwise, I get put in charge of mousetraps or poison, which I really don't want to have to mess with. (If I put daughter in charge, we would be having little mousey beds made and she would probably be putting out cheese and crackers for them.)

[DrJ]

MM,

Have you tried to give the kittens away, once they get to be old enough? We've limited experience, but never have had any trouble with doing. The momma cat may be more of a problem.

I hate to see cats go to shelters, particularly when so many would take them.

[clarice]

Just tell your daughter you're a baby mouse then--solutions are us.

[Jim Eagle]

Bama all ready up 7-0 and now 14-0. Not even 4 minutes gone in the 1st Q.

And Texas A&M is ranked 14th in the country

[hrtshpdbox]

MM, I was up there doing something, with the cat sitting right next to me, and I heard a noise. I had seen telltale signs of a mouse, but now I was hearing it - it had somehow fallen into an enormous bag of styrofoam packing peanuts and was down at the bottom, looking for a way out. I am not a big mouse fan myself, actually, so it's possible (if you believe my wife) that I screamed bloody murder while running down all the stairs carrying this bag. I left the bag outside near the trash, and I'm confident Mr. Mouse made a getaway.

[Manuel Transmission]

First day off in a very long time. Sitting at a picnic table on the town square of Leavenworth. Octoberfest is kicking in. 75 deg, light breeze. Several thousand strollers about. All the little restaurants/pubs have half the street to cordon off for outside tables. The other lane and sidewalk are for the strollers. About half wearing masks, but more like habit than anything. About every 3rd or 4th has a dog. Finally realized that the light pole in front of me is the dog Twitter terminal. Most just read it, but some leave their own comment.

Tried a couple beers last night. Lots of local brews that due to the constraints are being canned every night. Not impressed, given I’m not that much of a beer fan. The 2nd one was actual German beer out of a tap. I had the darkest thing they served and it was quite lovely.

[Captain Hate]

Cleveland Officials Traced COVID Cases Back to the Debate... Before Trump Was On-site

Fine job Crewe! Idiots!

[CCGirl]

Where there is one mouse there are probably many more! I sell tons of mouse traps, poison, etc. You should hear the stories. Many don't want to hurt them, yet they tell me they are running through the cutlery drawer (YIKES!). At that point I tell them they probably need an exterminator.

Me, I practice overkill. One mouse - poison in every corner. Same for ants - those things creep me out more than mice! I call the bug and mouse killer section the "heebie jeebie" area.

Also Miss M and anyone else who follows twitter - please take a break from that place. I barely peruse it, and it's full of nastygrams. I am not a huge holy roller, but Jesus says to pray for your enemy. I usually send a prayer up asking that these people lose whatever demons are causing them to type such horrible things. (It took me until a few weeks ago to figure that out, and I am not nearly as stressed out!

[Narciso]

They could screw up a one car parade cant they.

[Captain Hate]

That dumb see you next Tuesday, Barbara Snyder; derp this will give us great exposure derp. Typhoid Barbara. They'll probably give her a bonus.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

So the Dem Senate candidate in NC just stepped in doggy doo. Sexting with a political consultant. Both of them married.

Not a good look, especially in North Carolina.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Hot, you should have dumped the popcorn into a box and shipped the whole thing to Dem HQ in DC.

I don't think there is a law against sending mice through the mail.

[Narciso]

You had one job folks and you wallaced it up.

[Another Bob]

So how long does this go before the political pressure starts for Trump to step aside for Pence "temporarily"? That's what the unnamed source BS is trying to gin up.

Biden sure needs something to blunt the criticism that he's the sick elderly one.

[Captain Hate]

Not a good look, especially in North Carolina.

Silky Pony revisited.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I am not a big mouse fan myself, actually, so it's possible (if you believe my wife) that I screamed bloody murder while running down all the stairs carrying this bag. --

LOL

[Narciso]

A new coinage i cooked up.

[Barbara]

You had one job folks and you wallaced it up.

They sure did, Narciso! Heads should roll!

[Captain Hate]

The WSJ with "mixed signals" on DJT's health, is really doing their best to jerk Paul Ryan off.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A little TWIP; the "And finally" category.
Inspired this comment;
"And finally, Love her brass catcher..."
Heh.

[Another Bob]

LS, lefty so wants it to be the ACB's Rose Garden thing.

Their hands are involuntarily drawing together in prayer for it to be the Rose Garden.

[MissMarple2]

Another Bob,

1. Pence knows very well that his loyalty would NOT be the same as that of the President's. He isn't as charismatic, and a huge chunk of Trump supporters would give him the side eye of mistrust.

2. I am sure the "unnamed source" is trying to gin up this issue for precisely the reason discussed in #1,

3. A lot of people may think Biden is the sick elderly one, but what they REALLY need to know is that he is the greedy, dishonest asshole who will do whatever China tells him to.

[Barbara]

Yeah, Captain, not to mention Pence.

[Narciso]

Like crosses to vampires

https://mobile.twitter.com/politicalelle/status/1312467581802999808

[Barbara]

Americans in D.C. bring rally to he President.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/americans-bring-rally-trump-large-crowd-stands-outside-walter-reed-hospital-chanting-usa-usa-video/

[Marlene]

Good afternoon! Scout is a great varmint killer. Before we left Maine, we noticed a healthy population of field mice trying to get into the out buildings (the garage and the little guest cabin). Hubby got the crawl space under the little cabin buttoned up and the resident owl took care of the mice. Scout also caught a few. We got a hoot (ha) out of the owls this summer. We realized that dad and mom owl were protecting their nest and steered clear of that tree.

[Momto2]

ccgirl - I agree about Twitter right now! I'm taking a break because the hatred and evil there is so unhealthy.

Happy Birthday to Kiwi ~ I hope your mom is spoiling you which we know you deserve!

A friend in N. Georgia posted a photo of her car all decked out with Trump flags and signs. One said "Normal People for Trump!" She said she was heading to downtown Atlanta. When someone cautioned her about safety she replied, "I'll be fine - driving down with a group of 200 from Kennesaw!"

I didn't hear what was going on but it made me feel much better than reading Twitter! :)

[Narciso]

I only pick the feeds that bring the snark or correct the record.

[henry]

BLM attacking to DC rally.

https://twitter.com/henryrodgersdc/status/1312489344544899072?s=21

[matt - deplore me if you must]

If you've ever had hot brass fly into the back of your neck or elsewhere, you learn to take precautions. That young lady should understand that burn marks last a while.

[CCGirl]

Our terrier mix catches mice too from time to time. It's hard for him because he must be on a leash - or we may never see him again. He's killed a few moles and never breaks the skin, but he horrified our daughter by catching a mouse last week and it was quite a mess.

Happy b day to Kiwi - what would we do without our pets in 2020?

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Seems to me the progs freaking out over this is a recognition, conscious or not, that the episode carries considerable risk for them.

If Trump recovers easily and is his old, jaunty, nutsack-kicking self in no time, it not only makes him look strong and heroic [especially compared to the troglodyte hidin in his basement] it makes their scary bugaboo bug look feeble by comparison and nothing to worry about.

[MissMarple2]

Current position on Twitter:

I check the President's feed plus a few others who are reliable, like Carlos Osweda, drawandstrike, DOn Jr., etc.

Otherwise, I just don't look at anything. This is why I am not posting as many links in the morning as I used to do.

[CCGirl]

What's the deal with all crazy lefty young women wearing glasses and stuffing themselves into over tight clothing? Not to be mean - but it is a trend. And yelling?! Be a normal college kid - drink and listen to great music, and have some fun. Jeepers.

I am blind as a bat - so no issue with glasses, but I try to avoid wearing them, and have avoided it most of my life - post 8th grade.

[CCGirl]

I was sitting at my desk all day in my pjs (wearing my glasses) finishing my AR billing for the month, and cleaning up files. BORING - am now dressed and having a light cocktail. Sorry for all the posts. Just such a dull day.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--If you've ever had hot brass fly into the back of your neck or elsewhere, you learn to take precautions.--

We sinister southpaws learn that lesson early on and if we're not too smart, we learn it often.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Good point;

Kimberly Klacik
@kimKBaltimore

US House candidate, MD-7
"Just wanted to take a second to point out members of Congress were able to hash a deal avoiding a government shutdown, guaranteeing their paychecks, but can’t agree on a stimulus to help the people they were elected to represent.

Pls stop voting for these clowns."

[hrtshpdbox]

If Trump recovers easily and is his old, jaunty, nutsack-kicking self in no time..

I'm counting on just that, despite 2020.

A new coinage i cooked up.

Yes, a good one, all wallaced up!

[MissMarple2]

A short video from the beginning of the @DragTheI here in AZ #MAGADragTheInterstate https://t.co/SIkZvInP1H pic.twitter.com/SAQWvwYf0o

— Zeke McGeehon 👀 (@zekesauce) October 3, 2020

Video at the link.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/pelosi-raises-possibility-of-becoming-acting-president-in-chaotic-election-outcome

[Barbara]

What's the deal with all crazy lefty young women wearing glasses and stuffing themselves into over tight clothing?...And yelling?!

ccgirl,

It's a tactic. Scream as loud as you can. Repeat the same accusation, question over and over again. Distract the officers. Make the event appear to be more violent than it is.

[clarice]

Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
·
Oct 2
Just finished a great phone call with
@POTUS
. He’s in good spirits and we talked business — especially how impressed Senators are with the qualifications of Judge Barrett. Full steam ahead with the fair, thorough, timely process that the nominee, the Court, & the country deserve.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

elsewhere, you learn to take precautions.--

Precautions? I have a permanent scar on BOTH boobs from an ejecting jacket landing in my cleavage. I had on a long sleeve polo shirt for protection buttoned all the way up. It hit my neck and tumbled on down. It takes a bit of time to put down your weapon and start trying to dislodge it. Damage done.

And that was with my .380 I shudder to think of the damage from a larger caliber.

[MissMarple2]

Richard Danna
@rickdanna4719
·
1m
Swiss Skydiver, a filly, an 11 to 1 shot, wins the Preakness edging out Kentucky Derby winner, Authentic.

[GUS]

Where is the video of the WHITE SUPREMACISTS going apeshit on the police?

Do any of these dirty greasy clowns know what SOROS did in his youth?

[anonamom]

from gateway pundit article:

A nationwide candlelight vigil is being planned for tonight at 8:45 PM EST. If you can’t find a vigil in your city, start one. If you aren’t able to start a candlelight vigil for Trump in your city, stand in your front yard with a candle and pray for him and our First Lady.

[MissMarple2]

Josh Caplan
@joshdcaplan
·
15s
EX-GOV. CHRISTIE: "In consultation with my doctors, I checked myself into Morristown Medical Center this afternoon. While I am feeling good and only have mild symptoms, due to my history of asthma we decided this is an important precautionary measure."

[GUS]

Excellent reason to head to downtown Oconomowoc.

Gelato and a rally and prayer vigil for our President.

[peter]

That was quite a Preakness! My niece and my sister both had money on the filly. Both also expressed disgust at the politically correct hot garbage politically correct music of Wyclef Jean in place of the traditional Maryland My Maryland, even with expurgated lyrics. Good signs for sis and niece, both of whom are teachers brainwashed by the teachers union into being libs.

[GUS]

Won't watch it Peter. If it gets RACIAL or PROGLITICAL...I'm out.

And I am a native of Maryland.

[Neo]

The White House announced Trump’s intention to name Fitton to the D.C. Commission on Judicial Disabilities and Tenure on Friday afternoon. Fitton is the head of the conservative group Judicial Watch and has advocated the investigation of former Obama administration officials, including Hillary Clinton. He was also a fierce critic of special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the 2016 election.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/02/tom-fitton-trump-court-oversight-425674

[peter]

Did quite a bit of gardening today--- planted garlic, Brussel sprouts and shallots, then mowed the lawn. My back is paying for it now. My vermouth cocktail only helped moderately.

[peter]

I hear you Gus @ 6:05, but it's a family thing to watch the Triple Crown going back to my father's era--we all call each other up and watch the post-mortem of the race.

[MissMarple2]

https://nypost.com/2020/10/03/trump-tells-rudy-giuliani-im-going-to-beat-covid-19/

[GUS]

I get it Peter. It sucks to be pushed away from traditions by COMMIES.

[henry]

Got a fire going, most of the visiting puppy hair vacuumed up, and an Octoberfest (https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/741/5758/). My nieces ended their visit too soon. Hard to believe they are seasoned cyber security professionals, time flies.

[Extraneus]

So the Dem Senate candidate in NC just stepped in doggy doo. Sexting with a political consultant. Both of them married.

Ha!

[jimmyk]

“ Fine job Crewe! Idiots!”

There’s also this from lurkersusie’s link:

Even though 11 cases were traced back to the pre-debate planning, the Cleveland Clinic made one thing clear: every single person with credentials who went into the debate had to have a negative Wuhan coronavirus test.

So what does this tell us about the efficacy of MOAR TESTING!!! ?

[MissMarple2]

The kittens are now in the back bathroom along with the mother. It's supposed to be 39 tonight. They are all going to the shelter tomorrow.

Not my house, so I just keep my mouth shut.

[Barbara]

Perhaps they tested negative. Who set up he stage and the lecterns? There are other questions, but I'll leave it at that.

[anonamom]

today's McConnell Tweet

Leader McConnell
@senatemajldr
·
2h
Just had another great call with
@POTUS
. He sounds well and says he’s feeling good. We talked about the people’s business — fighting the pandemic, confirming Judge Barrett, and strengthening the economy for American families. Let’s keep our President & First Lady in our prayers.

[Barbara]

the stage...

[Davod]

Made the mistake, once again, of clicking on Fox News. They had a doctor on who was pontificating on the effect of Trump's hospital stay on Trump's campaign. Obvious political, not medical, statements.

[Davod]

Jimmyk. Maybe the FBI or/and Secret Service should be investigating the testing process for subversives.

[jimmyk]

“Perhaps they tested negative. Who set up he stage and the lecterns? There are other questions, but I'll leave it at that.”

That’s my point: if they all tested negative, yet evidently someone was contagious, how effective is all this testing that we are subjecting millions to, and spending God knows how much on, in addition to lockdowns and micromanaging everyone’s lives.

[Jane]

Woof woof ccGirl.

[anonamom]

posted by Steve Schmidt today

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1312223572748898304.html

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Swiss Skydiver, a filly, an 11 to 1 shot, wins the Preakness edging out Kentucky Derby winner, Authentic.--

Were the jockeys wearing their masks?
Were the horses?
If there was a black jockey or horse, did he get a furlong head start?
Did anyone use the term 'dark horse'?

[Extraneus]

posted by Steve Schmidt today

I couldn't make it too far into the thread, but this guy makes money writing that stuff?

[Dave (in MA)]

Dave MA, what does pepcid do for your cats? Posted by: hrtshpdbox | October 03, 2020 at

Supposedly helps cut down on the puking, though you wouldn't know if from the number of times per week I have to clean it up. They also get pumpkin mixed in their food to keep 'em regular.

[henry]

As if anyone wielding power would speak to Schmidt and the Bulwark sunken cruise ship anchor watch led by rear admiral, his most obeseness, Kristol.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Just for lyle;

[henry]

Trump just posted a vid. He looks out of breath to me, but better than Biden on a good day.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1312525833505058816?s=21

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

If Krispy Kreme sails through his case it may be time to rethink obesity's risk factor.

[GUS]

All of that presupposes that the DEBATE had anything to do with the new positives. Every story in the RANCID MFM starts from a FULL COMMIE THEORY and moves farther left. So NO ONE, from the TV or CREWE EMPLOYEES, or PRETEND DEBATE COMMISSION, nor ANYONE associated with BIDEN'S SHIT SHOW were affected. DWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET.

Sorry, that was my BULLSHIT detector going off.

[GUS]

Steve Shit. Wasn't he enriched by McSTAIN??
Now his pal RICK WILSON is caught with CONFEDERATE FLAGS on his boat.

THE CONFEDERACY and JW BOOTH murdered their HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHA Beloved Lincoln.

Rick Wilson supports the SLAVE STATES and the actual MURDER of Lincoln. Lincoln gave his own LIFE for freedom for blacks.

[henry]

Trump does ping Biden by pointing out a:leader can’t hide out in the White House (how is that basement, Sundown?)

[James D.]

posted by Steve Schmidt today

I want a goddamn reckoning. These people need to be be destroyed.

[MissMarple2]

henry,

Thanks for the alert. Here is the video at the link:

pic.twitter.com/gvIPuYtTZG

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) October 3, 2020

[Dave (in MA)]

I liked the remark about how Melania is slightly younger, just a little bit.

[Extraneus]

He looked good to me, and sounded good too.

[cathyf]

So joan I guess you’ve missed all of my dissertations about my 5th Disease experiences!

B19 is (from the point of view of the virus) the perfect virus. It is virulently contagious, through the air, so you’ll get it just by being in the room with someone who’s contagious. It’s most contagious for ~24 hours before any symptoms show up. And it’s virtually always either completely asymptomatic or the symptoms are trivial. (That weird “slapped cheek” rash)

Because it’s such a successful virus, a majority of the population has had it and is immune, with most of them having no idea that they had it. Schools and daycare centers and other places with lots of kids are the only places where the disease can spread, because that’s the only places that you have enough not-already-immune humans that the virus doesn’t get stopped at most every transmission.

I got it in 2008 from my kids. It arrived in the community in early February in the public school. Within a couple of weeks the first Catholic school kid got it. It turned out that the music/technology teacher— who saw every kid in the school every day — was one of the rare adults who had never had it before. The totally predictable thing happened, which is that by the end of the day that the first kid brought it to school every not-already-immune person in the school was infected. And by the next day I had symptoms.

Non-trivial symptoms in adults is uncommon, and even rarer in kids. The major danger is to unborn children, because the disease will cause minor anemia in the mom and severe anemia in the baby. The one kid in our community who got really sick was a teenager who ended up in kidney failure for awhile. The one adult who got really sick was me. (Am I special or what?!? LOL)

The typical symptom in adults is joint inflammation which mimics inflammatory arthritis. In my case it started with carpal tunnel. Like many women I get minor carpal tunnel when I sleep— the passages that the nerves go through are a little smaller in women and the slight swelling of sleep takes us over the edge and gives us tingling fingers. With the B19, I had the tingling fingers while awake and then when I fell asleep, oh my! It would be ok until I got into a deep sleep after 2-3 hours and then I would wake up in screaming agony! Talk about sleep deprivation— for me AND DrF!

Fortunately the anti-inflammatory drug Lodine was able to tamp down the inflammation to manageable levels. I spent the next 4 months or so with a body like the Tin Man— with the Lodine it was manageable, but when the drug started wearing off my joints would freeze up. The pattern of pain was utterly bizarre, because it’s what I now know is called enthesitis.

To understand enthesitis, think about how each joint works. The simplest joint moves back and forth in one plane with one muscle for each direction and each muscle is attached at each end. Enthesitis is inflammation of the points where tendons attach to bones (in the chewing gum and baling wire model of the body the entheses are the gum). When only one of the several attachment points of a joint are inflamed, you get pain with motion in one specific direction. In the beginning, my hips were such that sitting down hurt, but I could stand up pain free. Gravity was in my favor! I spent a couple of months falling into chairs! At a later point, the spot on the side of my leg — around from my shin— hurt where the muscle that pulled the leg out to the side was attached. At the end it was a joint back in my foot behind one toe that hurt.

Within a few years I developed an allergy to amoxicillin, Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis. My endocrinologist and rheumatologist humor me in my theory that 6 months of severe inflammation triggered these autoimmune diseases.

All that said, I’m really surprised that your pediatrician didn’t recognize the rash immediately. I got the impression that this thing roars through a community and infects most people not already immune, and then burns out when it runs out of non-immune people. Then 10-15 years later, when a bunch of kids have been born not immune, and families have moved in and out so some moved in not immune, it comes roaring through again.

(anonomom if you are reading this, have you been through this where it hits, and panicky parents show up with their weirdly rashed kids, a few isolated adults get slammed like I did, and then it all burns out until next time?)

This is why the CCPv looks so familiar to me. The big difference is that with Fifth Disease the distribution of immune people is skewed very high towards adults— who’ve been around long enough to have multiple opportunities to get it and become immune. But the characteristic of the symptoms frequently being on the trivial side are there, which is part of what makes it so easily spread in that people don’t know they have it until they have already spread it.

I think it’s also why we have done such drastic damage to our kids and it has had no mitigating effects on the virus spread. Every OTHER disease like this is like Fifth Disease, and closing schools for a short time is highly effective at forcing the virus to burn itself out.

[MissMarple2]

Extraneus,

Me, too.