Trump Hospitalized?!?

Let's hope this is just a sensible precaution. I've read there is a Presidential Suite at Walter Reed used exclusively by, believe it or not, the POTUS.

Trump is taking a Regeneron antibody cocktail drug that is still in trials. FDA has approved compassionate use for other patients (so they company says) and now for Trump.

Their Sept 29 upbeat press release with preliminary results is here.

Eli Lilly also has an antibody cocktail which worked well, so this medical decision made lots of sense. There results are also more comprehensible, as presented here:

Eli Lilly reports this morning interim results from a placebo-controlled trial of one such compound, cloned in quantity from an antibody captured from the blood of a patient who recovered from COVID-19. In June, the company began a trial delivering either placebo or one of three doses of the antibody, called LY-CoV555, to 452 patients. These were not gravely ill people, but patients with mild or moderate symptoms who had tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 within the past 3 days and had not been hospitalized.

Five of 302 patients who received the drug ended up being hospitalized—1.7%. But nine of the 150 placebo patients ended up in the hospital—6%—meaning there was a 72% reduced risk of being hospitalized for patients who received the antibody versus those who received a placebo. The drug produced no serious side effects, the company reports.

So - among people with mild to moderate symptoms (like Trump, so far) 94% on placebo avoid serious illness, versus 98.3% of those who got the Eli Lilly treatment. Great odds versus even better odds, in other words, although that is across a range of ages and pre-existing conditions.

Comments

[JimNorCal]

ManTran: "Finally realized that the light pole in front of me is the dog Twitter terminal. Most just read it, but some leave their own comment."

Lovely prose :) :)

[lyle]

I just threw up a little in my mouth, Ig. Plus, I don’t get it. Suffice it to say, I much prefer your 4:44.

Beauty and The Beast...

[Dave (in MA)]

Chuck Ross@ChuckRossDC
·
If someone from MSNBC doesn’t claim the Trump video was
actually recorded back in February I’ll be shocked.

[lyle]

The crack of Heels Up’s ass is directly over where I’m presently staying. Perhaps that explains the foul air. 😉

[Dave (in MA)]

I don't get it.
Think "ebonics".

[MissMarple2]

cathyf,

I have psoriasis on both shins, and have had it for about 30 years. I used to keep it under control by lying in the sun at the pool all summer and getting a deep tan. I would rub Eucerin into the areas starting in the fall, and more heavily after Christmas, as it would start to flare up since I didn't have any real sun exposure.

As soon as the pool opened at the end of May, I would get myself into the sun and it would go away until late fall.

Alas, now no pool and the backyard here is a little unfriendly for sunning. And consequently, my psoriasis remains year-round.

[lyle]

Hah! Sheesh.

::fist bumps Dave::

Funny thing is, if she’d posed more to her right, the ID/MT state line would look like Sundown is sniffing her hair!

[lyle]

Just showed/explained the Heels Up pic to the wifey. She was unamused. After 20 years you’d think I’d have figured out that we don’t share the same humor...😂

[MissMarple2]

If I skipped Twitter totally, how could I bring you guys stuff like this:

[hrtshpdbox]

Thinking that under the circumstances people might be slightly less awful, I looked at some of the comments posted under Trump's new twitter video. People are not less awful, not at all.

[Extraneus]

They would gladly slit our throats, box.

[Extraneus]

.

[MissMarple2]

hrtshpdbox,

I NEVER read the replies to his videos or tweets. That's why I copy them and bring them over here, so they won't disturb you guys.

Some of them are from China, I am sure, and are designed to undermine our morale. The others are from Antifa/BLM/DNC types, and are posted for the same reason but originate here.

I am pretty sure that some people have several accounts and simply post the vile stuff under multiple names. Ar any rate, those vile posts aren't worth reading.

[Extraneus]

OT and neither here nor there, but I installed a 30A breaker in a sub-panel and four 20A outlets on that circuit today. More than enough for my new tools.

Haven't done anything like that in over 20 years. :-D

[lyle]

110 amps total. Great job, Ext.

[CCGirl]

Barbara, that makes sense. Anyway should I ever be in a position where some young woman is screaming in my face, I will just punch her in the nose. Grew up with four older brothers. No issues there.

Checking out and watching trashy Yellowstone. Have a good night. I believe Pres Trump will be fine, as will the rest. MAGA!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--I think it’s also why we have done such drastic damage to our kids and it has had no mitigating effects on the virus spread. Every OTHER disease like this is like Fifth Disease, and closing schools for a short time is highly effective at forcing the virus to burn itself out.--

I'm not entirely sure I follow that paragraph, cathy.

Somehow I missed your previous chronicles of Fifth Disease which I never heard of until about five minutes ago. Sounds extremely unpleasant if you're one of the unlucky few.

[lyle]

Equally OT, we did a four mile hike this morning. No masks on anyone. Small victories...

The fall colors here are spectacular. Still too much smoke although it’s way better than Friday.

[Narciso]

Evergreen

https://mobile.twitter.com/Julio_Rosas11/status/1312521429309550593

[Another Bob]

Trump looked basically fine to me. Little low energy maybe.

If they’re propping him up for appearances, they’re doing a very good job of it.

[Narciso]

Hes kind of like john dutton isnt he ccgirl.

[Dave (in MA)]

lyle, I have to admit that my first thought was, Why does it say Idaho on Montana?

[BeastsEngland]

’...I installed a 30A breaker in a sub-panel and four 20A outlets on that circuit today.’

You’re likely one of those guys who owns a voltmeter. :)

[MissMarple2]

https://t.co/F2qrPTLBZ8

— Jeanne (@scoobidoo76) October 3, 2020

Video at link of prayer rally outside Walter Reed.

I am pretty sure that wouldn't have happened for Obama. Or any other president, for that matter.

[Extraneus]

No, all four outlets are on the same 30A circuit, but they'd never be used at the same time. Maybe a tool and dust collector, around 20A or so total, but that's it. The sub-panel also powers the boat lift [ahem], but I'd never be using that and tools at the same time. :-D

[lyle]

There’s a football player on Momto2’s team with the last name of Brahms. Methinks I shall listen to some of his namesake’s intermezzos.

[Narciso]

Then this twit

https://mobile.twitter.com/guypbenson/status/1312458971119153157

[Another Bob]

“ I'd never be using that and tools at the same time.”

The breaker will see to that...

[Narciso]

Robert george is a fool isnt he, although rse would say knave.

[Narciso]

Now its just silly

https://mobile.twitter.com/johnddavidson/status/1312547293531308032

[KevlarKid]

I read Steve Schmidt out loud using my Tokyo Rose voice.

He is a useless, soggy dog bed.

The Fat Panda flu diagnosis puts us over the top according to my Typhoo Tea leaves from this morning.

What the Berkeley Harpies consider compassion for the infected is calling them "too stupid to not get the virus."

As Trump and Her Edibleness recover the Country will reopen en masse and these Dem governors will be using Chapstick like suppositories.

[Another Bob]

No, *this* is silly.

https://twitter.com/reidepstein/status/1312545391108411392?s=21

[JM Hanes]

The idea of fewrreting "the source" of any particular individual's COVID infection seems absurd from the get-go. and I personally believe that the whole idea of contact tracing is being pushed by the tech sector & the left for their own future purposes. Never let a crisis go to waste!

I went to the grocery store a couple of days ago. So did a gazillion others. In order to do any truly accurate tracing, everyone would have to wear a device that registered the devices of anyone and everyone else who came within range. Just imagine how that would be accomplished. The same people who are wild about this idea are probably the same people who object to voter ID. Congnitive dissonance? What's that?

[Another Bob]

“ everyone would have to wear a device that registered the devices of anyone and everyone else who came within range ”

JMH, the NFL is doing exactly that during games.

[Narciso]

Dr.evil of course founded mercury partmers, which lobbies for qatar turley and russia apoarently withouy incixent

[Narciso]

Turkey apparently and incident.

[joan]

cathyf,

No, WOW, I had missed reading about your Fifth Disease. Awful, awful, awful. And, yes, I agree with you, six months of inflammation did trigger your autoimmune diseases.

I also missed reading much about Fifth Disease (back in the day) because we moved to London, England about a year after our children caught it. I never met another family that mentioned it.

I had never heard of Fifth Disease until our two children caught it. Of course, back then, at bridge club all of us mothers talked about this virus the children were catching but that was about it. To tell you the truth, I can't even remember if I knew it was a virus. We probably talked about the rash and fever. Since it was so long ago when our children had it, I've wondered if the medical community knew that much about it at that time. In fact, until you just told me, I didn't know adults caught it.

Think I'm going to research the virus right now. For some 'dumb' reason, when our pediatrician said what he did, I always just thought it was a new (novel?) :) thing that kids were catching that broke them out and he really hadn't ever seen or known about it before.

I am sorry to hear about your enthesitis (and other ailments). Painful. I've had bursitis in my shoulder in my 20s and have had arthritis for years, but nothing like you've suffered.

The body is an astounding, complex piece of machinery. (Scary, too.)

:)

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Interesting story;
We Have 'More in Common Than Not': Utah Proud Boys-BLM Collaboration Provides a Model for Reconciliation
Provides this handy definition;
"... all that is required to become a Proud Boy is that a man declare he is “a Western chauvinist who refuses to apologize for creating the modern world.”"

[JM Hanes]

"North Carolina U.S. Senate candidate Cal Cunningham, a married father of two, sent text messages of a sexual nature to a woman who is not his wife, his campaign confirmed Friday night."

ABob:

Thom Tillis is a lucky bastard. He was falling behind in the polls, and then diagnosed with WuFlu. I was getting seriously worried about his race before the news about his opponent surfaced. I hope the Republicans will be able to effectively exploit that. NC really is a swing state, and Dems do more campaigning here than people notice. We have often elected Senators from opposing parties, so I hesitate to assume that hanky panky is an automatic out.

[Captain Hate]

Sláinte

https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30356/463216/

[hrtshpdbox]

We Have 'More in Common Than Not': Utah Proud Boys-BLM Collaboration Provides a Model for Reconciliation

Everyone from Tucker Carlson to Dave Chapelle will tell you that people are "divided" by class, not race. Proud Boys originated, and still are AFAIK, as a group of unrepentant males with no distinctions re: race or class. John Roberts might know better, though.

[Narciso]

I say call in a drone strike for reasons

https://mobile.twitter.com/JordanSchachtel/status/1312548209991061504

[hrtshpdbox]

That stout looks wonderful, CH, and I'll bet a six-pack runs north of $10.99.

[Narciso]

Not satire

https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=15849

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

This guy is utterly hopeless and without honor when caught in a mistake;
'It Never Happened' Cuomo Says About Causing COVID Nursing Home Deaths
The 'deny, deny, deny' strategy can work in a 'he said-she said' situation.
Not so well in a 'he said-and everybody recorded it and wrote it down, including his own health department' scenario.

[Narciso]

You mispelled evil, ignatz.

[lyle]

Not so well in a 'he said-and everybody recorded it and wrote it down, including his own health department' scenario.

Sure it does when all these commies can easily look the other way, comrade.

[GUS]

Ext. 220 ....221....whatever it takes.

[MissMarple2]

Narciso,

That is just disgusting. When I was in college we had all sorts of people speaking, from communists to John Birch Society officials, and we were encouraged to listen and ask questions.

One would think the university would be embarrassed.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Haven't heard anymore on Dan Bongino.
From the way he described it and its location and his belief it was a lipoma [fatty tumor] I'm guessing he either has some type of sarcoma or possibly one of the many lymphomas.
Anyone heard anymore than his last statement about getting bad news?

[Narciso]

That would seem to be it.

[Narciso]

Can he be anything less than evil

https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/05/22/jaccuse/

[Narciso]

Thats a gentle jab

https://mobile.twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1312395291274948608

[MissMarple2]

Ig,

His You Tube podcast yesterday sounded pretty serious. I don't know the different types of tumors but it definitely sounded serious, because at one point he said he was "only 45."

Here is the link to his podcast yesterday. I listen to it daily, and when he says that Paula (his wife) was crying I figure it is pretty bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFR72WSL944

[Pinandpuller]

Go outside and look at the Moon tonight, I command you!

This is what’s known as the “Scoobie Doobie Doo, Where Are You” Moon.

[Narciso]

The cleveland clinic has some nerve, they knew 11 people had tested positive how many others were they in contact with.

[anonamom]

Bongino is posting up a storm on Twitter, but he doesn't address his diagnosis.

[Narciso]

So all of this chaff is likely from hoagland and mccrystals disinfo networks

[clarice]

DAVE, PICK UP FORTIFLORA FOR CATS--THAT ACTUALLY WORKS.IT'S PROBIOTIC THAT MY CAT ADORES.

[MissMarple2]

Narciso,

I don;t trust them. I don't trust Foundations, NGO's, universities, colleges, political organizations from either side, governments down to school board, you name it.

I am getting to the point that I am seeing Marxist-affiliated groups in all of them, and I want a clean sweep. My youngest granddaughter graduates this year from high school and wants to go to work rather than college, and I am all for it. I am NOT interested in seeing her brainwashed. If she decides on anything, I would prefer military service.

[anonamom]

Here's tonight's report from sick bay:

https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/1312560078717943809

I can't copy it--but he's had his second does of Remdesivir without incident,is afebrile, not on oxygen, and his room air sats are 96-98.
They'll give him more Remdesivir tomorrow.

[Captain Hate]

That stout looks wonderful, CH, and I'll bet a six-pack runs north of $10.99.

Definitely, box. I usually only buy singles because the grocery store just gets in a few from Oklahoma. I've never tried aging them because every stout I've gotten from them is already well balanced. They have good wild ales and saisons too; so good that I'll just automatically pick up a new one whenever I see it.

[henry]

How many doses of Remdesvir are normal?

[Captain Hate]

The cleveland clinic has some nerve, they knew 11 people had tested positive how many others were they in contact with.

I knew Notre Dame was smart by wanting out of that shit show and the imbeciles at Crewe can be counted on to play the mark perfectly. Btw I erred on Barbara Snyder driving the clown car since she's departed; these things happen when you throw away all alumni communications automatically.

[MissMarple2]

anonamom,

I tried to bring that over here but the letters turned out to need a microscope to read. Thanks for the interpretation!

[henry]

Ian’s Cowen running things now? The B school dean from our days a Crewe?

[henry]

Isn’t

[Narciso]

Youre right not to, my alma mater brokered the elian rendition some years after i graduated and even had an proposed islamic state club

[MissMarple2]

Carlos thread wrapped:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1312546693179600897.html

I agree with Carlos: a lot of stuff Trump does we are NEVER going to know about. Maybe our grandkids will in 30-40 years.

But not us. As long as the country improves and we don't go to war, I am fine with that.

[Captain Hate]

Scott Cowen is the interim President, whatever that means, after returning from being President of Tulane. Yes he headed up Weatherhead when we were there.

[Ralph L]

Nice pic of Imaho in front of Idaho.

[henry]

Does the University President (interim or other) do anything besides keep donations inbound?

[Captain Hate]

Kinda WJOM

https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nAX-hQQqgoE5zvf7DTAvvl2wlvYDSotKE

[Narciso]

Where d you find that one captain?

[Captain Hate]

That's his main job, henry. I'd imagine he lobbies sellouts in the legislature to get as many ChiCom spies students to pay the full freight.

[Ralph L]

My NC state senator was hit by an alienation of affection lawsuit. He's not running for reelection. Not sure which happened first.
State races seem to have a lot of money this year. Daily mailings and TV ads galore.

[henry]

That always was a Crewe specialty. ;)

[Captain Hate]

I bought that in 2005, narc, when New Dutch Swing was a big deal. Now some of the prime movers and shakers have died off but the reed player and trombonist have put out a long deferred follow up where it's just the two of them playing more Ellington adaptations.

[MissMarple2]

Somebody on Carlos's thread posts this:

Nonny Ricardo
@NonnyRicardo
·
19m

I have a strange obsession with PDJT’s cufflinks. I love them! He’s in the hospital and has his cufflinks on! He must be feeling good. If he wasn’t, he may have not bothered.

=================================
It's true. I went back and looked. He DOES have on cuff links! That's my president!

[lyle]

Nice pic of Imaho in front of Idaho.

Nice? 😎

[MissMarple2]

https://soundcloud.com/frontpageindex/behind-the-badge-bernie-interviews-lin-wood-on-rittenhouse-and-mccloskey-matters-full-segment

[Narciso]

Thats some good stuff, i wasnt familiar with new dutch swing

[clarice]

Sounds like the Vatican contains people as evil and conniving as democrats:https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-cardinal-spent-800000-to-discredit-cardinal-pell-during-sex-abuse-trial-report

[MissMarple2]

Some of the signs at Walter Reed. pic.twitter.com/k0RZ3ea9yx

— Mollie (@MZHemingway) October 4, 2020

Photos at the link.

[Narciso]

Wow i guess i should be surprised but im not.

[MissMarple2]

David Chapman
@davidchapman141
·
26m
Mike Pence is gonna kick Kamala Harris' ass in an epic tribute to Trump.
===========================================
I will be rooting for him the entire time!

[Barbara]

On the sane side of the broadcasting business, a news anchor prays for the President.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newsmax/status/1312189958166282242?s=25

[Narciso]

Just now

https://mobile.twitter.com/alimhaider/status/1312577743490613249

[Narciso]

Amen barbara,

[clarice]

No wonder everything seems ass backwards this year
https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/10/01/a-puzzling-uranus-reversal-by-holiday-mathis/

[MissMarple2]

Heading for bed.

Nytol!

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Kinda WJOM--

Jeebus McGee. I tried to like it until it broke one of my fillings.
CH probably thinks I'm a philistine for only liking accessible stuff.
Guess I'll listen to a little Jackie Wilson or J Geils.
Vive le difference!

[JM Hanes]

I'm afraid it was kinda hard to connect with that one Captain. :)

[Narciso]

Something more accessible since peter referred to it

https://youtu.be/WG3NyCXBPTA

[Narciso]

I went to her concert and got the dvd after.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Cripes.
Are there any of the Borgias left? They'd be a step up from this crew currently manning the Vatican.

[cathyf]

--I think it’s also why we have done such drastic damage to our kids and it has had no mitigating effects on the virus spread. Every OTHER disease like this is like Fifth Disease, and closing schools for a short time is highly effective at forcing the virus to burn itself out.--

I'm not entirely sure I follow that paragraph, cathy.

Ok, I was trying to shorten up what was already a too-long post... :-)

What I was trying to say is that with virtually every other infectious disease, kids are major vectors of infection because schools and daycares put them in close contact with a large number of other students and adults that is constantly rotating throughout the day. So everything from the common cold to flu to throwup viruses to meningitis to mono will run through a school like wildfire. Sometimes, with things like measles, Spanish flu, etc, the kids are at great danger from the disease. Other things, like Fifth Disease, they are rarely in danger themselves, but they are a significant danger to adults.

This coronavirus is just weird in that kids are not very susceptible to getting it, and when they do get it they only rarely transmit it. Every piece of pandemic planning and every tool we have to mitigate the spread of an infectious disease is based on experience, and all of our experience is that kids are walking talking petri dishes spreading infection with great efficiency wherever they go.

Our experience with all of those other infectious things is that we can successfully stop an outbreak by closing down schools and isolating kids from each other for a couple of days -- a minor sacrifice with a big payoff. The crime against our youth worldwide is that we have known since the inadvertent controlled experiment of the Diamond Princess that closing down schools and otherwise limiting contact among children and between children and adults that all of those "common sense always reliable" mitigation strategies that really do work with all of those OTHER viruses don't do any good with kids and THIS virus.

Back in March when I first read about the wonderful civic-minded local Ys throughout the country setting up special daycares for the children of essential workers after the schools all closed, I was absolutely APPALLED. If this virus had been like all of those other viruses that we have all the experience with, then essential worker doctors and nurses and respiratory therapists and bus drivers and grocery clerks would have brought the virus home, infected their kids, and then their kids would go to the daycare and infect the children of the nursing home workers who would take it into the nursing homes and kill all the old people. If those kids had been vectors of infection, then sending infected patients back to nursing homes wouldn't have freaking mattered! Because the daycare kids would have already spread covid into into all of the nursing homes before the sick patients ever got transferred in!

The crime of the whole "sacrificing the kids for the good of the old people" is that shutting down the schools didn't do the old people any good!

When the daycares started up in March I was screaming about how dangerous they were. Now that we all know better, I watched UNC evict all of those students and force them to disperse around the country with the stated "reason" of oooo they might be infectious! and am now screaming that they are f***ing idiots and they damn well better hope and pray that "infectious college students" is a f***ing hoax!

[Another Bob]

“ CH probably thinks I'm a philistine for only liking accessible stuff.”

I KNOW CH thinks I'm a philistine for only liking accessible stuff.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Thanks cathy.
I should have figured that out on my own, and as usual your logic is impeccable.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

She's actually Ida 'Ho.

Remember, the Vatican is the world's oldest continuous bureaucracy.