Election Day!

We'll get through this. Probably.

Dan McLaughlin at NR has a long essay turning the Trump/Biden coin before coming down.... NO SPOILERS. His gist - Trump is even weaker on character and competence than Biden, the Democrats are terrifying on policy and Biden lacks the principles or energy to rein in the left, but we have to choose.

Her makes an interesting point about the possible value of a rebuilding year, or two, or four:

Coalitions and the Right Time to Lose

Losing to this Democratic Party would be very bad. But: We live in a two-party system, and its natural equilibrium is an alternation of power. Moreover, a rise in presidential power for one party tends to produce an immediate reaction in the rest of the system for the other. That is even truer since people stopped electing presidents with divided government in the first place. We saw this under Clinton, George W. Bush, Obama, and Trump. It is possible that Trump is the end times for Republicans, but it is unlikely. In other words: Democrats have to win sooner or later, and we will again have to live with it, and we will again get our turn after that.

I could not in good conscience vote to make that happen, but what if Trump is really the worst possible Republican president? What if Biden is, by virtue of his age, the least likely Democratic president to get reelected on the strength of incumbency? What if a 6–3 Republican-appointed Supreme Court, with the oldest Republican appointee (Clarence Thomas) being 72, and only one Democratic appointee likely to step down in the next four years, is the safest of times for the nation to go blue? What if the 2022 Senate map looks not so bad under a President Biden, but ghastly under a second Trump term?

What if it really is true that it was good that Trump won in 2016, but is also good that the next four Republican years not be his? What if a Trump win will make the worst people and ideas in the Republican Party stronger, at the expense of the best? What if a Biden loss will make the worst people and ideas in the Democratic Party stronger, at the expense of the least-bad — as seems sure to happen? What if we still have a strong case, even with a narrow Democrat majority in the Senate, for stopping Court-packing and other insanity now? What if Trump is the only thing holding together an incoherent Democratic coalition, which needs the White House before it can tear itself to ribbons over an agenda Biden never really ran on? What if that coalition would only grow otherwise, so that the 2024 election after eight years of Trump is likely to give Democrats a much wider majority and mandate?

I do not, as a rule, believe in winning by losing. But we do have to lose eventually. A good football coach knows when to punt and get the ball back in better field position. Everything good about a second Trump administration would be better under a subsequent Republican, with less risk of a truly permanent defeat for conservatism.

Bill Belichick nods. His point that a Trump win will probably bring out the worst in both parties is a good one. And what about a Biden win?

Republicans complained after 2008 and 2012 that we lost by not running a true conservative. Nominating and then winning with Trump kinda/sorta vindicated that view, since Trump mostly held onto his new-found conservative positions, especially on judges. If Trump loses in 2020, purity of message may not identified as the problem.

I think (or certainly, hope) that Biden really is the temperamental centrist he portrayed in the primaries. In the Presidential campaign he's been chasing my vote, not the vote of my kids. I think the phrase "Reagan Democrats" has chafed Old Joe for decades and he wants to read about "Biden Republicans". IF post election analysis (will exit polls mean much this cycle?) shows a lot of disaffected Republicans for Biden that ought to embolden and empower the centrist Dems who have dragged Joe this far. It might also empower something like a "Sensible Center" on the Republican side as Reps try to lure the defectors home.

That said, Biden is running on fumes and follows polls rather than principles. But if polls tell him to be a centrist he won't object. His long-time aides are undoubtedly corporatist centrists, so his chief of staff pick and other nominations will be critical. If Elizabeth Warren is nominated as Treasury Secretary all bets are off. But she won't be!

As to Congress, Pelosi was quite firm in 2019 with the message that she did not regain the Speakership because AOC primaried a safe-seat timeserver. She won due to 30 swing-seat Democrats who weren't in a position to take crazy progressive votes.

Senate Majority Leader Schumer (if Mitch can't hold on!) will face a similar dynamic. Will a Senate with 51 Democrats that includes Joe Manchin and five of his ideological siblings really vote to pack the court and bring in DC and Puerto Rico as new states? Maybe! But probably not. ("Probably"? This is a hell of a thing to be betting on, right? Yet here we are.)

Beyond that, Biden and his strategery team surely remember Bill Clinton's come-uppance in 1994 and Obama's in 2010.

Clinton lost control of the House and Senate, leading to a long six years; Obama lost the House in 2010 and the Senate in 2014, leaving him with a pen and a phone. One would hope the Democratic leadership has figured out the problem and won't try for "third time lucky".

However! There is a theory that 2020 might be the last election. The analogy is to elections in Muslim states that vote in a religious party - the laws are changed and the incoming party never leaves power. The 2020 peril is that Senate and House moderates are persuaded to hero up, vote in the two new states, pack the court, amnesty and grant the vote to ten million undocumented Democrats, and never lose either the House or Senate again. I mostly think this is about as likely as the impending "Trump coup" progressives enjoy getting wound up about, but... time will tell.

Tough times ahead regardless.

Comments

[Jack Lillywhite]

Howdy!

Back from voting. Straight ticket.

Polling held in one of the large areas of our local VoTech school. No lines. At least half the stations were empty. One lone Biden supporter with sign out front but he was at the exit not the parking lot entrance. A typical Biden supporter, I guess🤡

[joan]

My goodness, reading the thread topic made me dizzy, especially this: "What if a Trump win will make the worst people and ideas in the Republican Party stronger, at the expense of the best?"

all I can say is TRUMP 2020!

[Narciso]

They want to empower terrorists, eliminate fossil fuels come on tm.

[joan]

I don't like to knock our host, and I didn't mean my previous comment to be one -- it's that I dont understand not realize the 'Dark Times' we'll enter with a Biden win. He's alreay promised us a Dark Winter.

[Young Lurker]

voted in CT, FWIW.

[joan]

I'm glad to see maryrose posting every day or so now. MR, you bring a certitude to your beliefs that is calming and reassuring (at times) !! :)

[Captain Hate]

Just back from voting.

Quoting that asshole Baseball Crank? Full Patterico.

[joan]

A few thoughts:

I wa surprised this morning by our 10 year-old, fifth grade grandson. (My husband takes the grandchildren to school -- the grade schooler back her for about 30 minutes to have a bacon toast sandwich. His elementary school starts about 30 minutes after the older girls.

He usually watches How to Train A Dragon on Netflix, but I overslept and my husband put a football game on -- as I came thru there was a break and an ad for Biden came up. Hunt said, "I don't like Biden, isn't he the one that doesn't like cops?!"

So our living room turned into Trump 2020! He's all for Trump. So are his friends (and their families) -- at the Indian Nation Football conference the youth around the state play in (seriously, I assure you, we play games all over the state, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, etc.) I've seen MAGA hats. One players mother told a group of relatives to boys on our team come to sit down with us in the stands, don't bother sitting with us if you're not for Trump. They all laughed and sat down in our group.

[Young Lurker]

How are you guys able to upload images in your comments?

[Captain Hate]

YL,

It used to be impossible for me until I started using postimages. It's very user friendly.

[joan]

One thing I've noticed: you can tell (around here) the Biden voters (liberals) and Trump voters by church denomination: Lutherans, Presbyterian, maybe Methodists all lean left. Then we come to Baptists (there are probably 10 different Baptist churches in our area), Nazarene, Church of God, Church of Christ. Non-denominational are true Red Trump voters. You can tell anywhere you go in our smallish town, who's going to vote Trump. I have no idea about Catholics, we have plenty, but I don't get the sense of what they think.

There are plenty of democrats here, but I think they're like the democrats of old. They don't want BLM, antifa, way left policies here.

[Sue]

I hate to pin my hopes on Joe Manchin not packing the courts.

[Threadkiller]

My take is that narc has answered those pleas, and decided how he's rolling,

His rolling helps with my scrolling.

Posted by: Threadkiller | November 03, 2020 at 10:25 AM

[Threadkiller]

Several texts to the Armstrong and Getty show suggest that long lines are everywhere. One person said that they will not wait the 1.5 hours now and head back at noon and try again.

Conspiracy me thinks that the high Dow is part of the scam so that the dolts who think there will be less of a wait later can rationalize not voting because the stock market said “Trump will win.”

Posted by: Threadkiller | November 03, 2020 at 10:28 AM

[Jack Lillywhite]

I second CH, YL.

I put the image I want use on my desktop then go to post image, where the give size options. There is one for posting on blogs. You click that and bring your photo from desktop, then copy it.

At the receiving site e.g. JOM, go into comment box type img src=“ “ between < and> Paste photo between the parens. Post it.

[Narciso]

Hey sue hoe have you been?

[Threadkiller]

YL, go for non-conformity and post the address of the image instead of being a slave to another app. iPhone doesn’t own me!!

:-)

[Deplorable D]

It is not in my nature to badmouth our host, but

For Fuck's Sake.

David

[BeastsEngland]

Don’t know if I’m just returning from my polling place or a Trumpapalooza event! There was a guy with a Trump merchandise tent across the street - doing solid bidness... 🇺🇸

[MissMarple2]

Willowed reply to TK from the last thread:

TK,

That's why I don't trust the volunteer site which posts wait times. I think they are trying to keep older people from voting. I don't believe any of them.

[Narciso]

The link was harsanyi rubbiahing axios.

[Sue]

Hi narciso. I’m good. And you?

[sbwaters]

Blowing gawd awful smoke! Neither political nor science.

When @cvpayne suggested reconciliation, I replied:

.@cvpayne, reconciliation takes second place to recognizing the value of honesty, openness, and exchange of ideas. That won’t happen so long as corporate media like the @AP insist that the #opinion of its reporters belongs in the stories they file. They squandered our #Trust.

[joan]

This state has edged left for a decade or so. I'll be surprised if Tulsa and Oklahoma City don't go big for Biden. (Wish I could make a spit sound here, but don't know how to type one. :)

Our town is sort of the same -- we have our evangelicals, but because it was the home of PPCo for so many years, lots and lots of liberals were transferred in here. We still have several thousand jobs here from Conoco-Phillips and Phillips 66, but the decades of transferring in liberals, plus other companies -- a few spin-offs from PPCo, then ABB Automation, 85 offices from around the world, who transfer people in and out, Seimans (glass chromographs was here until 2018, when they transferred to Houston -- have changed the solid conservative base. So there are a lot of liberals here.

This is what is going to happen to all of those Red places that liberals are fleeing to from California, Washington, Oregon, etc., as everyone has been saying -- they bring change, and not the kind you feel safe with.

[Thomas Collins]

Temperamental centrist? Far more likely that Biden is the Trojan Horse for the onward March of cultural Marxism.

Here is the brutal reality. Whatever one thinks of Trump's crude talk, Trump has governed as close to the classical liberal tradition in domestic policy as one could imagine in domestic foreign. In foreign policy and trade, Trump has governed in a manner appropriately modulating one world borderless ersatz elite therapeutic totalitarianism. His administration has brokered historic peace frameworks in the Middle East and the Balkans. He has not converted our foreign policy to Jacksonianism, but has brought a needed Jacksonian element to our internationalism. He is a non-interventionist in a way that keeps our strength and puts our troops in harm's way only when he has concluded it is in our national interest, not the interest of one world fantasy people. He has appointed judges of superior intellect who believe in interpreting, not making law. His governance will be missed if the oligarchs succeed in installing Biden.

For some reason, the thought that keeps going through my head today is the following: There are none so blind as those who will not see.

My prediction: Trump wins today, and Biden is inaugurated. I hope to hell I am wrong in the latter prediction.

[boris]

If the image already has a URL just do this ...

<img src="https://up2.typepad.com/6a026bde9f4aaa200c026bde9f4af7200c-250si"/>

which produces ...

[boris]

Basic format is:

<img src="Picture URL">

[Captain Hate]

Wow, TC. I like your brutal reality.

[Thomas Collins]

Whoops! End the second sentence at imagine.

I hope the last part of my view of reality is brutal but wrong, CH (the Biden inauguration part).

[jimmyk]

I've heard one too many "conservatives" rationalize a vote for Biden similarly to McLaughlin. Amazingly short memory from "Elections have consequences," "We have to pass it to know what's in it," and similar demonstrations of the Democrats "character."

[boris]

Wrong like this? Trump wins today, and Kamala is inaugurated.

[jimmyk]

OL on the last thread:

My brother emailed me:

"I am cautiously optimistic but worried sick."

Runs in the family.

Mine too, but in every single case the worry would be that Trump might win. (Not my current family, which voted Trump across the board, but the ones I grew up with.)

[jimmyk]

OL on the last thread:

My brother emailed me:

"I am cautiously optimistic but worried sick."

Runs in the family.

Mine too, but in every single case the worry would be that Trump might win. (Not my current family, which voted Trump across the board, but the ones I grew up with.)

[jimmyk]

Sorry for the double, it was Trump's fault.

[Narciso]

Heres some tea leaves

https://mobile.twitter.com/LarrySchweikart/status/1323651633029423104

[caro]

(Reuters) - Wall Street’s main indexes rose at the open on Tuesday as investors bet on a victory for Democratic nominee Joe Biden in one of the most divisive presidential races in U.S. history.

Does this make sense?

[MissMarple2]

Thomas Collins,

For those who are on Twitter, I DEFY anyone to show me the "crude talk" that President Trump produces compared to the vile talk that the leftists produce.

Who calls average voters "c*nts" or tells people to "go suck Trump's d*ck"? Who accuses Trump of having an incestuous affair with his daughter?

President Trump doesn't speak any worse than my father did, who worked construction or maintenance all his life. He seems to get along fine wiith no pearl-clutching from European MP's, other than those who are actual Communists or under the pay of the Chinese.

I have watched almost every speech. He gets along great with Mike Pence, which astounded me when he first named Pence. But yesterday I saw him get a prayer from FRANKLIN GRAHAM on the podium and also support from the gay community due to Trump's treating them with RESPECT.

What I hope is that a lot of democrats have woken up and are seeing the value in FIXING THINGS and PROTECTING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

[Threadkiller]

If the image already has a URL just do this ...

which produces ...

For anything other than an IPhone

[joan]

Wow, TC, then you have no hope for our country's future.

[BeastsEngland]

’Does this make sense?’

I don’t believe it was intended to. And howdy, caro!!

[Threadkiller]

Haha! I’m going to try to explain my 10:56 which has me completely mystified.

I cut boris’ text up to the “...”, put it inside italics, and somehow the picture came through instead of his text.

[Threadkiller]

For whatever reason(maybe because it is a typepad link?) the image address Boris linked will post as an image from my iPhone. But any image I pull off of the internet won’t work.

I am going to work on a car instead of clogging the thread with picture posting confusion.

It is me, not you. :-)

[MissMarple2]

My sister is picking me up in an hour or so, so I had better get gussied-up enough to appear in public. I am taking all of my hospital discharge papers so that if I can ask to sit down inside or jump the line I have some proof. I am also taking 2 masks, my voter registration card, my driver's license, my passport, and my cane/stool.

I don't care if I have to wait until sundown, I am doing it. If this guy can put up with all of the crap he has put up with for us for the last 5 years, I am going to do it for him.

[joan]

We've been in line about 20 minutes. A liberal's in front of me. Young well-dressed man, wearing a mask outdoors. (Church parking lot, lovely crisp breeze blowing.) Luckily for my husband, he has a deerhunter behind him. They're talking about deer hunting, freezers full of deer meat, and the oil/energy business.

Someone just came out of the church and said, 45 mintes wait presently) ... no one left.

Of course I am nervous, cause I'm blathering on here so much. Can't help it.

We've reached the front door)

[lyle]

’Does this make sense?’

It’s Reuters.

[Captain Hate]

CNN is already discussing Biden's path to victory without Florida.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 03, 2020 11:05 AM (sGotD)

Excellent news.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 03, 2020 11:06 AM (7UIvI)

[joan]

Wow, still outside. Looked behind me. Line looped around parking lot.
7

[sbwaters]

Replying to him:

.@HowardKurtz sez: "That's putting enormous pressure on the media business at a time when its credibility is increasingly fading". — #Bullfeathers. Simplify. All the #MSM had to do was its job. You do know that in the craft "the media business" is actually supposed to be #News?

[Old Lurker]

Pics, YL?

You can either follow the instructions of the image wizards here, or you can forego posting pictures, or you can do what I do: Just email it to Mel and ask him to post it for you...

[Narciso]

Kurtz is a weasel of a different tail. He stuck a chiv in judy miller when she was in jail.

[Young Lurker]

thanks for the info everyone.. my image does not have a link and I can't figure the other stuff out. Will email Mel. I have a funny one for you!

[lyle]

Insty:

SEEN ON FACEBOOK: “A new study reports 100% of Americans like taking polls, answer the phone from unknown callers, and are home right now.”

Right? 😉

[Captain Hate]

More Sundowning

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1323477753631526913

[Momto2]

I voted - walked right in and there was no line! (I live in a blue precinct)

I figure they all voted early or mailed in their ballots due to the virus. Wearing red today in anticipation of a Red Wave tonight!

[Dave (in MA)]

Back from voting. Straight ticket.

The pen didn't get much use for me voting straight ticket. At least half of the offices were unopposed D.

[Art in Newport]

I think Trump wins all the states he won before and a few more. I think he gets to 270 without Pennsylvania, and the Democrats work to set up that state to be stolen is wasted.

Not sure about Cali going red, but it will be closer than 2016.
MAGA, by His Grace.

[joan]

Inside now. Liberal in front if me doesn't move forward in line until there's 4 to 5' opening space in front of him.

I'd guess his age at 28 to 30.

We've just moved through long entry hall. Now on to long, turning hall. All closed in. Wonder what he'll do now?

(Minutes pass) He's maintaining distance.
So am I. :) Closing in on him.

[BeastsEngland]

’Just email it to Mel and ask him to post it for you...’

I didn’t know that was option... ;)

[caro]

Hey, Beasts! I am making your Caesar dressing tonight. Yummm.

[clarice]

The article from NR at the head of this thread, is utter nonsense. I expect to be sitting shiva for NR before the year is over.

[joan]

Neither did I.

[MissMarple2]

Pete Hegseth was in Vigo County, Indiana on Fox and Friends this morning. That county as gone for the winner since 1952, even though it's heavily democratic. People in the diners all say Trump landslide.

Steve Bannon says Trump will NOT let this be stolen.

[Ralph L]

I will miss being on the lanai tonight.

Better than being on the grill.

[Dave (in MA)]

Great. The Grey Lady subscriber fantasizing about the impending Donk monoculture.

[JM Hanes]

Jeez TM!

That McLaughlin article is the sorriest excuse for an excuse to vote against Trump I've ever read. What if, if, if? Well, what if not, not, not? What coach ever included throwing a game in his toolkit?

Apparently some people really can get tired of winning.

[joan]

YL,
I have the text, etc., for posting pictures. Will post later when we're home. Dont have nimble fingers (or mind) to go back and forth between Word and here on phone.

[Old Lurker]

I didn't mean to out Mel as a resource. But he likes YL more than he likes any of us so maybe she will get away with it.

Or maybe he is too busy today covering all his puts and calls.

[James D.]

I truly cannot believe the garbage our host posted, and that he apparently believes.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I think Trump wins all the states he won before and a few more. I think he gets to 270 without Pennsylvania, and the Democrats work to set up that state to be stolen is wasted.

I'm with Art on PA. He'd like to have it but has other avenues to victory.

[Another Bob]

Re. Market up being pro-Biden sign...

I think the received wisdom is “the markets” like Biden as it’ll mean all stimulus all the time.

[Jane]

Caro,

I miss tou! Another Election Day party tonite. Eye doctor first!

[Another Bob]

The consensus view is high turnout = good for Trump, right?

[Jack Lillywhite]

Paper ballots in FL. One side are the political contests. On the reverse are the propositions. Only 3 this year. Everything is in English and Spanish.

No chads to hang, only little ovals you cover over with a free pencil. I didn’t keep mine😷

Everyone had on a mask.

[BeastsEngland]

Awesome, caro!! It’s super yummy. 😋

[cathyf]

I do believe this, America is still sufficiently self governing that we largely get the leaders we deserve. If Trump, who has done much good and been crucified for it, loses it will be because a majority of America didn't deserve a leader who does much good. If that happens we will all have to suffer under another anti American POS trying to dismantle what the Founders built until enough of us tire of our heritage being destroyed by a bunch of useless, greedy, hypocrites and imbeciles.

The problem is that self-governance only lasts as long as we don't elect people who succeed in taking it away from us. The old one man, one vote, once problem of electing communists...

(We reinstalled our Nest thermostat last week, and DrF sent me an invitation to be able to log in and control the thermostat remotely. Which requires use of ones gmail account. I refused to complete the signup, but it occurred to me that google now has enough information to include my house if they were to decide to turn off the furnace when we were out of town during sub-zero temperatures. If you knew that you were going to lose your house if you were to publicly state your intention to vote for a Republican, then that's a pretty effective incentive.)

[lyle]

Hey, Beasts! I am making your Caesar dressing tonight. Yummm.

Ahem. Recipe, please? Caro is my proxy...😬

[Old Lurker]

A-bob: "I think the received wisdom is “the markets” like Biden as it’ll mean all stimulus all the time."

Then again, investors might remember that the last time Biden had access to the WH, the Dow ranged between 8,000 and 16,000.

[BeastsEngland]

I don’t think I have it at the lake, lyle. Sorry, bro. 😐

[Another Bob]

“Nest thermostat”

Why anyone would let Big Tech into their home like that is beyond me.

Particularly the “assistants” and their always-on microphones and soon to be always-on cameras. The Ring doorbells that can monitor comings and goings. Etc.

Never.

[Another Bob]

OL, I don’t think “the markets” (there’s a reason I put it in scare quotes) are nearly as smart as they think they are.

[clarice]

entrails. Time to go back to more reliable predictions--reading entrails rather than Reuters.

[lyle]

No rote memorization, bro? 😬

[JM Hanes]

joan:

I'm enjoying your play by play!

No wait where I vote (rural NC), but I think that's why I always go at 10:00 am.

[Jane]

Sue!11 is that you?

[Old Lurker]

Cathy, the big push in the utility area is to snooker as many users as possible to give said utility override ability to your thermostat in return for a lower rate. Google would LOVE to be in that loop.

Anybody who would trust Google with that switch deserves to sweat in Summer and freeze in Winter.

Personally, I have no intention of letting any connected device get between my thermostat and whichever machine is keeping me at 72F.

[clarice]

Typepad won't let me post Sharyl Attkisson's latest--she says if Trump wins the pollsters are finito.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2020/11/most-masked-european-countries-have-biggest-daniel-greenfield/

[Old Lurker]

tru dat, A-bob.

Tulips.

[cathyf]

boris, you missed a character

Basic format is:

<img src="Picture URL">

You need to put a / character before the concluding angle bracket. (You showed it in your example.)
<img src="Picture URL" / >

[Tom R]

My voting precinct has around 7000 registered voters which makes it the largest voting precinct in my county. In 2016 it took me around 10-15 minutes to vote. A friend just called me and said there were probably 1000 people standing in line and that it was taking 2 hours to vote. I view that as a great sign for Trump.

[joan]

Just finished. Line looped around church parking lot.

[peter]

What a closer Trump has turned out to be. Win or lose, no one could have campaigned harder. He seems so tireless. Hard to believe he had covid only a few weeks ago. I am much younger, less overweight than he, and still feel like crap despite staying out of work for two weeks.
I went to work yesterday and was initially excited to be back, but it really wore me out. My company was closed today, but some lame brain called a meeting so I dragged my ass in for a couple of hours this morning and will go back to bed soon. Yes, I'm calling a lid.
Voting turnout is quite high here in the blue hell suburb I live in where Biden Harris signs outnumber Trump signs 30 to 1. My wife went to vote at 6 am and came home because the lines were too long. I went at 10 am and there was still a short line. I could tell from the smug look on the face of the lady in front of me as she put her "I voted" sticker on her shirt that she was likely a Biden voter. Very short ballot, only the Presidential race, Congress, State Senator and State assembly. New York Supreme Court (a misnomer, it's a trial level court) also goes through the farce of electing judges but due to the utterly corrupt system of cross-endorsements, there are judges running on the Repub, Dem, Working Family (nee Acorn) and Conservative party line (a moribund survivor from the Bill Buckley years.)
I am cautious and will not be making any predictions.

Regarding the stock market, I listened to MSNBC in my car on the way home. They say the market being up means Biden will win. Wall Street did pour a lot of money into his campaign, likely because they know he will take care of them. Pray pray pray. Prathaana! Davnen!Ùrnaigh!
Pregueu!Molitʹsya!

[lyle]

I don’t think “the markets” (there’s a reason I put it in scare quotes) are nearly as smart as they think they are.

When so much trading volume is run by algorithms these days, who knows?

[GUS]

Trump weaker on character??? What a fucking buffoooooooon.

[JM Hanes]

::SUE::

So great to see you!

[BeastsEngland]

Egg yolks, anchovies, olive oil, garlic clove, lemon juice, Dijon mustard, Parmesan cheese, red wine vinegar, Worcestershire sauce, salt and cracked pepper. Infer the quantities at your own risk, lyle!! 😎

[Another Bob]

Not to mention the passive vs active flows Lyle.

[Narciso]

Letsee here

https://mobile.twitter.com/SharylAttkisson/status/1323465749726461953

[BeastsEngland]

I’m calling Alabama for Trump!! 🇺🇸

[Another Bob]

Gutsy call Beasts. 😀

[Narciso]

More of this

https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/