Is There A Winner?

Seems like its Contention 4, America 0, but who knows?

Biden been declared the winner, there are too many states that aren't that close, but Trump hasn't quit.

Maybe Trump will follow the Hillary 2016 playbook - after conceding the race she joined a no-hope recount effort just to assure her supporters that every stone had been turned and then thrown.

Team Trump should spend a few minutes in Philly. Cobble together a Steal Dossier, fire up the FBI for some ludicrous FISA warrants, and away we go! Flip the House in 2022, impeach Biden... never gets old. [Uhhh, it was old the first time..]

Comments

[Tom R]

TK @ 1:32

I welcome any plausible explanation from you that explains why the Trump campaign chose that location for the press conference.

[GUS]

Maguire called the election for BIDEN. The rest of you can STFU.

[macthenaif]

Apropos of something (I'm pretty sure) Trump made an intriguing comment at a rally 2-3 weeks back. In the middle of one of his signature riffs, totally out of context, he said "Whatever happens, I want you to know that Bob Barr is a wonderful human being. He doesn't want to hurt anybody." I'm confident that my recollection here is nearly verbatim.

[Jane]

Tom,

That was a fun read. Even funner if true.

[CCGirl]

It is a bizarre location.

[Barbara]

Yeah, Mac, that comment bothered me. Barr got one agent on falsifying information for a FISA warrant. That's it. It's all we're going to get. Sad epitaph for Barr who was given a unique historical opportunity to save the Republic.

[Barbara]

One thing I recall from Rudy's presser is that at the start he commended the owner for her "bravery" in allowing the press conference to take place at Four Seasons Landscaping.

[MissMarple2]

Secondhand Lions.

That's who we are!

[Tom R]

Here is Lewandowski’s tweet about the Four Season Landscaping.

https://twitter.com/clewandowski_/status/1325257152219504641?s=21

Two dots that don’t connect yet is why that company has multiple donations to Democrats yet Lewandowski and Rudy both praised the owner.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

Tired of the 4D mindfucks.

How about they just frigging DELIVER on something concrete, finally?

My worry has always been that the whole Q thing was a Deep State PSYOP designed to keep patriots calm and quiet while giving us the false hope that something was being done to stop them, while they were really completing their objectives.

Maybe I’m too far down the rabbit hole? LOL

[Threadkiller]

I welcome any plausible explanation from you that explains why the Trump campaign chose that location for the press conference.

Is the threshold for plausible “crematorium across the street was used do burn ballots after they went through the landscape companies chipper?”

[Threadkiller]

“do” should be “to”

[CCGirl]

Perhaps tomorrow we will see some action. After all it’s Sunday.

Hang in there all! Still waiting for advice on guns!

Fla peeps stay dry!

[Threadkiller]

“companies” should be “company’s”

iPhone has resurrected its speak-misspell.

[clarice]

AZ and Fox lies:https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/the-fox-news-factor.php

[Jane]

Ccgirl,

Not possible to stay dry, if you have a pup.

[Tom R]

A post election letter from Archbishop Vigano.

https://www.complicitclergy.com/2020/11/05/archbishop-vigano-post-election-letter-to-american-catholics-and-all-americans-of-good-will/

[Captain Hate]

More like clockwork

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=391184

[henry]

fdcol, I agree. We are passed the “put up or shut” marker on 4D.

[Davod]

From Twitter. Long, but worth the read, as it summarizes a lot.

Just absolutely insane. If this thread doesn't make ya go ho hmm, about Biden's projected win, nothing will.

https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2020/11/08/just-absolutely-insane-if-this-thread-doesnt-make-ya-go-hmmm-about-bidens-projected-win-nothing-will/

[henry]

Past. Auto cucumber destroying the language as usual.

[Tom R]

TK @ 1:56

That scenario is plausible. It also reinforces the speculation that the Trump campaign chose that location to mindfuck the Democrats.

[boris]

"put up or shut up"

My guess is if there is anything to drop it won't be until recounts start.

[Elliott]

Where are the demands for Pennsylvania to publish internal tallies of late-arriving votes?

[Threadkiller]

Why mindfuck at the scene of the crime when you can expose the truth at the scene of the crime?

Coverage of Trump “Stolen Election!” press conferences will be drying up soon.

Where is the verification of the landscape company’s donations to Dems?

[boris]

"Why mindfuck at the scene of the crime ..."

Would make sense to me if they had some perps under surveillance and wanted to see what they do.

[Kathryn Anne]

Happy Birthday CH!
Have a great day!
Any current numbers on Arizona?
I checked and there are.about 4 counties favorable to President Trump that have 84-86 percent of ballots counted,
Still room to overcome Biden.
Also Fox getting reamed for calling the House for Dems.
Could get 10 to 13 seats for Republicans.

[Jane]

Fox should be reamed. I was a very loyal watcher for many years. Now it’s Fox Biz or Newsmax. Someday I’ll find OANN

[Kathryn Anne]

Macthenaif:
I recall that as well.
Great to see you posting here.
To to:
Always enjoy your comments.
OL: sending support your way.
I am living proof it is possible to be an optimist, realist and idealist - all at the same time.
I reside at the Ledge because the drinks are better as is the view!

[Jane]

I don’t expect any big news until tomorrow.

[Kathryn Anne]

Jane:
I now watch OANN, Newsmax and Fox Business.
Hannity, Tucker and Laura along with Fox and Friends in the morning and some people on the Five are ok.

[Elliott]

Most of the professional conservative caste is making a compelling case that it values paychecks over facts.

[Kathryn Anne]

Jane:
Sunday is usually a dead news or repeat news day.

[James D.]

CH @ 2:05

Fuck him. Fuck that whole family. Traitors all.

But we should have expected it. He wouldn’t speak out to defend the troops he ordered off to war. Why would he speak for any of us?

[Old Lurker]

Iggy refuted me thusly on my thought about Trump 2024: "And Moses didn't didn't get to lead his people into the Promised Land because he disobeyed God in how he was to lead the people, not because he was too old."

In defense of my point, in my mind my analogy stands. Moses and Trump both were the right men at the right time to lead the people from Deep Sh*t right to the brink of the Promised Land.

Iggy notes that Moses had a policy dispute with God and God won. Joshua (?) got to lead the people down from the final mountain.

Our Promised Land must be the return to our Constitutional Checks and Balances and all those other things related to the interconnected system of rules. Warrior Trump was the right man for lots of things and I am eternally grateful for having him and would welcome him to stay for another term, but the plain fact is that he is not and never will be a Constitutional purist or close to it. This is most evident in his approach to spending, borrowing, and budgeting procedures. There are other areas where he has shown more flexibility than I think prudent too.

If we must wait until 2024, I would hope we could return closer to the organization intended at our founding. We have proven that our House of Cards does not work well if we pull cards out willy nilly and the winds blow one way or the other.

[jimmyk]

I hope Trump's new TV news network grabs Tucker and Laura, along with maybe Dobbs and Liz McDonald from FBN. Then watch Fox's ratings go down the drain.

[boris]

"professional conservative caste"

Always seem to switch ...
from: rules above self interest for others
to: self interest above rules for themselves.

[jimmyk]

OL, we needed Trump as a one-man wrecking crew to clear out as much of the rot as possible, put in a solid foundation in the judiciary, and then maybe our Constitutional savior can come in and rebuild. Unfortunately he needed more than four years, but he made good progress. Now it's two steps forward, one back.

[boris]

I hope Trump's new TV news network ...

... shows up ASAP.

[Old Lurker]

Jimmy, hence my Moses comparison.

[JimNorCal]

Great to see fdcol!

[michaelt]

Couldn't it be possible they are more conservative Democrats that supported Trump this time?

[clarice]

Seems like just yesterday the media dubbed Al Gore president-elect.

[Jim Eagle]

Don’t forget in all this electoral turmoil Wednesday is Veteran’s Day. Take time out to accept the poppy, wear it and appreciate its meaning.

On the 11th month, of the 11th day, of the 11th hour. Please take time to say thank you to all veterans you know.

I thank them all for their service.

Over & out.

[Soylent Red]

Ammo supplies and price?

.22LR. Comparatively cheap. Learning rifle markmanship and good habits is the critical thing, and that can be done with a .22.

Draw a 2 inch square on a piece of copier paper with a Sharpie. Walk that out 25 yards from your firing position. The goal is to put holes on top of holes inside that 2 inch square. When you can do that, move down to 1 inch squares. If you can do that, with some slight adjustments for ballistics and windage, you can hit a human sized target at 500 yards.

The best infantryman or Marine is generally accurate to a maximum of 500 yds without specialized training. Many Soldiers and Marines cannot reliably hit 300 m (329 yd)human-sized targets. Even less can do it from standing, sitting, kneeling, and unsupported prone positions. Even less can do it making use of cover between shots and putting out 10 rounds a minute.

Let those be your guidelines for practice.

https://appleseedinfo.org/

[Jim Eagle]

Soylent,

Good info but since I was SAC, I’ll take my chances with a 2K MOAB.

[Tom R]

A ballot “issue” in Fulton county Georgia.

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1325527391993786374?s=21

[Soylent Red]

Oh by the way...

Before the recent unpleasantness and ensuing ammunition drought, I used to shoot A LOT of 5.56 NATO this way. A LOT (an average session was several hundred rounds).

Even so, this is an extremely challenging thing for me, and most shooters I know. I will probably pack up my 10-22 and go get some Appleseed training over the winter.

[Barbara]

Couldn't it be possible they are more conservative Democrats that supported Trump this time?

michaelt,

After each of the Trump rallies in the critical states under review, we heard that there were substantial numbers of democrats in attendance as well as people who hadn't voted in years. While not determinative, that information makes it extremely difficult to accept that there was a silent groundswell developing for Biden with his few and practically vacant events. I suppose they would have us believe that the vote was affected by a huge anti-Trump sentiment. Again, there was no evidence of that pre-election. It just doesn't compute.

[Soylent Red]

Good info but since I was SAC, I’ll take my chances with a 2K MOAB.

I'll bet the neighbors love it when you go out on the property to practice.

[clarice]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/awakened-a-sleeping-giant-parler-jumps-to-most-popular-app-as-conservatives-rally-support-to-leave-twitter-and-facebook

[DrJ]

CH: Happy, happy birthday!

[lurkersusie]

This link has Biden’s early executive actions

James Lindsay, keeping America great on Twitter: "In case you haven't already seen, yes, Biden will be canceling Trump's executive order about Critical Race Theory trainings and can therefore be said to be likely to support at least one of race or sex ...

https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1325265059061358592

[clarice]

Calif voters just said no to this crap. We'll see how many of his campaign promises he would keep if he's actually elected which I doubt.

[hrtshpdbox]

Is the threshold for plausible “crematorium across the street was used do burn ballots after they went through the landscape companies chipper?”

Dude. Didn't you hear? There's a sex shop on the other side of the landscaping company! First the ballots were high-heeled into illegibility around the stripper pole, then they went through the landscaper, then they were cremated. Nostradamus predicted this.

[michaelt]

Barbara, I agree. I was actually just referring to the discussion of a Democrat donating family that hosted the press conference yesterday.

[Jane]

Jimmy,

Maria bataromo must be included in that list!

[KevlarKid]

Happy Birthday, CH!

Get under a few special brews today!

Hermano Kev

[Jim Eagle]

Box,

In a few weeks you can watch that sequence on Porn Hub🤩

[henry]

Clarice, Biden will sign whatever EOs get put in front of him. Congress is irrelevant, even if it would choose to vote against him (which it won’t do).

[Tom R]

My 4 month old puppy destroyed my TV remote. I have a Samsung Smart TV 1080p and the TV remote is no longer in production. Any for sale are over $100. Here is a picture of it:

https://shopsmarterinc.com/products/samsung-oem-original-part-aa59-00781a-smart-touch-tv-remote-control-compatible-with-aa59-00772a

The TV is mounted to the wall so I can't see what the model number is. There is nothing on the front of the TV to tell you what model it is. Any tips on how to figure out what replacement remote is compatible with the original one?

[jimmyk]

Biden will be canceling Trump's executive order

I thought we learned under Trump that a President isn't allowed to cancel the previous President's EOs.

[Another Bob]

"I'll bet the neighbors love it when you go out on the property to practice."

Those that survive.

[Barbara]

michaelt,

I know. I was just riffing off your comment.😊

[jimmyk]

TomR, there are remotes that claim to be "universal." If you get them on Amazon (yes, I know) they're very easy to return if they don't work. Like this one.

[Captain Hate]

Thanks all.

I got nice phone calls from my daughters. I feel bad for some of you thinking of canceling Thanksgiving plans. Although my childrens' voting habits infuriate me, they know better than to badmouth my conservatism ever, particularly during a gathering to give thanks. Although I haven't had this confirmed I'm sure if we eat with others they make it known how I feel about things and there's never been close to an incident of raised voices.

[Narciso]

Yes scorpions do not surprise, soylent were you able to get what i sent clarice?

[Threadkiller]

Can you work the menu/volume/channel buttons on the tv to navigate to the “about”(or “update” or something similar) page? The model number can be found there.

[Narciso]

So say we all:

https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/11/you-are-not-alone-you-have-over-70-million-friends/

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

Same to you, Jim!

[Narciso]

I saw in an irish paper, that mr waittress sandwich is in consideration as ambassador to the emerald isle, he probably named himself.

[Kathryn Anne]

Marci so:
Kim won!
I am eststic!
I am watching those California races- stolen in 3018 with ballot harvesting.
All your posts are crystal clear today.
I got the other one also.
Don’t worry Trump is going to win.
I prayed again today and I still believe it will play out the right way.
Watching Football and Hsllnark Christmas movies.
Was behind an elderly man going into church.
He had trouble with his mask and his glasses fogging up.
After Mass outside he was wearing a Notre Dame sweatshirt.
I said “ Gi Notre Dame !
My eldest brother would have been 73 on November 5th.
Still miss him. The older guy reminded me of my dad.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Seems that back in aught aught we went through this same bullshit. At the time we were only talking hanging chads and Palm Beach County.

Now the democrats introduced vote by mail. Then they cast aspersions on the Post Office. Then they somehow had the key cities in four of the most corrupt states counting processes doing questionable things with questionable ballots.

Naw, no chance of hanky panky.

[jimmyk]

I feel bad for some of you thinking of canceling Thanksgiving plans.

To be honest, I didn't cancel our Thanksgiving plans over politics, it just sort of worked out that way. Being on the left, they're excessively cautious about the 'rona, so they were dillydallying about committing one way or the other. In the meantime we got an invitation from some friends who happen to be conservative, so I asked the sibs if they minded postponing a get-together for another time.

We've had numerous politics-free Thanksgivings, so it would likely have been fine, though sometimes Mrs K can't help herself and I have to shoot her a daggers stare.

[Jim Eagle]

We are 2 for Thanksgiving this year since Frederick is in school in Wales. He doesn’t even want to know what we are having since it will make him home sick.

I can’t find any UK caterer that could send him a typical Thanksgiving meal. He’ll just have to settle for Warebit.

[clarice]

narciso, I never got anything from you so I could not pass anything on.

Jimmyk, the rebellion is from whatever Dems in Congress are looking at the voter opinion surveys.

[Soylent Red]

soylent were you able to get what i sent clarice?

Not yet narciso.

[Captain Hate]

In case nobody's made these points

1. Trump set records for support for an incumbent in the primaries.
2. Trump had a 90% approval rating within the GOP
3. Trump had a total approval rating over 50%.
4. Down ticket GOP candidates were elected but Trump wasn't.

You can make numbers do funny things but not that funny.

[MJW]

The TV is mounted to the wall so I can't see what the model number is. There is nothing on the front of the TV to tell you what model it is.

The remote control information says:
Compatible Models:
PN51F5500AF, PN60F5500AF, PN64F5500AF, SEK1000, UN40F6400

I would think it's probably one of those. And I assume the two digits following the PN is the screen size.

I'm not sure you need the exact model, though. I'd think any remote that works with the compatible models would work with your TV.

[Jim Eagle]

..s/b Rarebit...

[henry]

Just kicking back and enjoying the 72 degree afternoon. Neighbors practicing with pistols for background noise.

[Narciso]

I guess i'll send it again.

[jimmyk]

Yes, CH @3:58, plus the fact that the allegedly racist, xenophobic, Nazi-sympathizing white supremacist increased his support among Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics, but somehow lost support among whites (relatively, at least).

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

RE: Parler and dumping FB and Twit,

Indeed! I have already downloaded all my FB data ... never used Twit ... and will be notifying all my FB friends that I’m deleting my account.

As they say, if the service is free, then YOU are the product.

I’m tired of being FB’s product, and giving them my info to sell.

I did the same thing back in 2013, after I attended a conference presentation that was given by some Leftist hacks that had run the social media portion of Obama’s campaign. Blue State Digital. Man, the way Big Data was intruding on privacy and mining data to effect political outcomes was shocking, and scared the hell out of me.

But I slowly went back because there was no alternative and I enjoyed maintaining contact with family and friends.

Now, after THIS election and the extent to which they are censoring freedom of speech and opposing political thought, and especially after they have made it clear that they DESPISE people like me and would like to either eliminate me entirely or send me to a Communist-style re-education camp, it’s time to go.

Zuckerberg and Dorsey have the money and power they do only because we allow them to have it. I, for one, will do my part to destroy them.

Or at least deprive them of as much of my support as I can.

Zuckerberg Delenda Est!

[matt - deplore me if you must]

with record gun sales comes record ammo sales. I would think with the '89 ban and the state bans there are a shitgob of AR & AK style firearms out there already.

Then came Obama and then the recent riots.America is, I think, heavily armed and dangerous.

90% of those folks haven't a clue of how to use their firearms. They closed the last outdoor range in our area @ 15 -20 years ago., so my long gun skills suck. That Appleseed project sounds good. 2 days of professional marksmanship training.

When I shot sporting clays competitively we used to go through a case of shells (250 rounds) a day. We would practice twice/week. I got very good at reloading.

Using a firearm properly takes a lot of practice and patience. Of course a 12 gauge can make big holes at short distances without a lot of practice.

[MJW]

I wouldn't be especially surprised if Trump soon gives in to the enormous pressure being put on him to concede "for the good of the country."

I certainly hope he doesn't concede at least until the Georgia recount is complete.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--In defense of my point, in my mind my analogy stands.--

Your original point was that Trump will be too old in 2024. He'll be essentially the same age as Biden so I don't agree. Barring any substantial health issues a 78 year old Trump would be worth about 100 48 year old other Reps, since he is presently worth about 200 of them.

I concur [2 out of 3 today] on his lack of conservative principles in spending and the reach of government [a problem he shared with Reagan, and one that is partly thrust upon them both by the state of the nation] but the fact is a junkyard dog who turns the attitude and the basic loser philosophy of the GOP around is a lot more important at this point than particular policy issues.
I'm not saying he can or should run in 2024, only that he shouldn't be written off because the man has been a miracle worker to anybody with a desire to turn the country back to its founding principles.

[Kathryn Anne]

At Thanksgiving my huge family all basically agree on politics!
This year it denned too risky as so many are in the healthcare profession or from out of state.
I know my last post has spelling errors.
Too lazy to correct them.
Clarice :
Thank you for Arizona update.
I shouted at the tc twice on Election night.
First:
When they called the House for the Dirty Dems and second when they made the Arizona call.
Deliberately not calling Alaska and North Carolina is also part of their evil plan.
It won’t work.
Only Fox and AP called Arizona.
Some have not called Biden the winner.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

He shouldn't concede until the legal remedies to the fraud have been exhausted.

[Narciso]

Mitt reminds me of menelaus in corolianus

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/former-us-senator-chris-dodd-tipped-to-be-next-ambassador-to-ireland-1.4403693%3fmode=amp

[Narciso]

Of course brenmer is malleys coffee fetcher

https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1325483399721742336

[Kathryn Anne]

MJW:
I disagree.
President Trump wants to be proven right about mail in ballots and voter fraud.
Remember his commission and how Dem governors wouldn’t open their poll books?
No he will go down with the ship or emerge victorious.
We can all learn from his example.
No excuse for Durham and Barr not to pin Russian collusion right on Biden’s butt along with all his corruption.
We will win in spite of all this unfairness and treachery.

[Soylent Red]

Using a firearm properly takes a lot of practice and patience. Of course a 12 gauge can make big holes at short distances without a lot of practice.

It's funny matt...

I was a better shotgunner back when I lived in God's Country, where there were pheasants and it mattered.

When I joined Big Green I became a better rifle marksman because THAT'S what mattered.

When my assigned weapon became mostly a pistol and only rarely a rifle, I became a good pistol marksman because THAT'S what mattered.

It's like putting, chipping, and driving: you can only practice so many things to an expert level.

[MJW]

He shouldn't concede until the legal remedies to the fraud have been exhausted.

I completely agree with that; I'm not sure, though, that Trump won't concede before then.

[Kathryn Anne]

Are all the military votes counted in Georgia?
Could Perdue still pull out 50 percent plus one vote?
Earth to Georgia- change that rule pronto.

[Jim Eagle]

Even on the First Coast the wind is picking up, turbulent sea. When the 'Canes come they effect all of Florida no matter where they are in the State. Stay safe, stay healthy and remember no need to stock up since they are over in a 24 hour period.

Publix knows how to handle it.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

Has anyone actually tried to BUY ammo lately? I have. Hard to get, here in N FL, anyway. EVERYONE has been stocking up.

What inventory I have, I’m saving for when I really need it.

Not pissing it away at the range, as much as I would like to.

Sure, I need to practice more and would love to, but I’m confident enough of my skills.

Glad I found an extra can of 1K 5.56 and another .5K of 9mm in back of my closet!

[Kathryn Anne]

Darrell Issa also won.
The Dems advantage gets smaller and smaller.
The arrogance of Pelosi to run for Speaker again.
Crush her!

[Barbara]

It's way too early to be talking of conceding.

Meanwhile Bite Me continues to make a fool of himself announcing Executive Orders, Ambassador appointments, etc. Democrats are not only dishonest, they have no class.

[Kathryn Anne]

Never buying a gun but my husband has plenty of baseball bats.