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December 13, 2020



Buncha kneelers? No thanks.



Buford Gooch

Gave it up years ago. The racist kneeling crap cemented that decision.

Jim Eagle

I just watch a football game: Crystal Palace v. Tottenham Hotspurs. Ended up 1-1.

Bringin over from last thread since it is probably the last comment:

"My cousin is from Herts, as is her husband.

Farm Street church is Jesuit and has a very large contingent of Americans. Probably more Americans than Brits. The park area outside by the back of the Church is very popular place to take a bench, read the Sunday papers and nap. Lots of song birds.

We would walk over to Audley Street and walk down to Cafe Richoux for breakfast, and then look jealously at the beautiful shotguns and hunting gear at James Purdy & Sons."

Jim Eagle

...Purdy was Holland and Holland back then....


Seems to me a bunch of people are going to learn a hard lesson in supply and demand.

If there are way fewer watchers of NFL on television, then advertisers aren't going to support coverage as much, if at all.

If advertising revenues are down due to lower ratings, and fewer season tickets or box seats are sold to corporations, and fewer pepople are interested in purchasing jackets, jerseys, hats, etc. then profits for teams will decline.

And THEN bidding wars for players will also decline, so college players may be dumbfounded at the decline in offers for premium players.

Ta-da! A lesson learned. I will bet sports agents find their revenues decline, too.


Thanks for the imput.


I can’t disagree with a single thing TM wrote for the new thread.



Posted by: anonamom | December 13, 2020 at 08:52 AM

i suppose we'd be here all day cataloging all the failures of the fbi and justice. i suppose a current favorite is not bothering much when the blmantifa pedos started burning down cities and the fbi director saying that it is all just an idea but they spared no resources to round up the coen bros militia.

Posted by: rich | December 13, 2020 at 11:56 AM



Have you been to Brauphing (in Herts)/

Another Bob

"Is Hungarian sweet paprika used a lot in Jewish cooking? I was thinking maybe Hanukkah?

Wondering why suddenly it is not available or in very short supply."

The things that are apparently "shortaged" seems a very odd one. A few brands of canned soups. Japanese panko. The paper products, obviously. Probably a few other things if I exercised the memory a little.


Sunday is here!

Hmmph. Commie.


Rush had a great example of why people are abandoning football and other sports in droves. On the occasion of Al Michaels being inducted into the Hall of Fame, he replayed the earthquake sound bite from the World Series of 1989 and what Michaels said 10 days later.

MICHAELS: Now on October 27th like a fighter who’s taken a vicious blow to the stomach and has groggily arisen, this region moves on and moves ahead. And one part of that scenario is the resumption of the World Series. No one in this ballpark tonight, no player, no vendor, no fan, no writer, no announcer, in fact, no one in this area, period, can forget the images — the column of smoke in the marina, the severed bridge, the grotesque tangle of concrete in Oakland. The pictures are embedded in our minds.

And while the mourning and the agonizing and the aftereffects continue, in about 30 minutes the plate umpire Vic Voltaggio will say, “Play ball,” and the players will play, the vendors will sell, the crowd will exhort, the announcers will announce. And for many of the six million people in this region it will be like revisiting fantasy land. But fantasy land is where baseball comes from anyway. And maybe right about now that’s the perfect place for a three hour rest.

Rush:He makes the point. Baseball is fantasy land anyway. That’s the point. Professional sports, college athletics, all of it is fantasy land in the sense that it allows us to dream, to pretend that we too could do those things as athletes. It allows us to escape whatever else is going on in our lives. But now that’s all gone, see. Now you’ve gotta incorporate Black Lives Matter, you have to incorporate Colin Kaepernick, and you gotta protest the flag and you gotta do all these other things. You gotta blame America for existing, basically, at the same time you endeavor to have a sports, game, contest, what have you. And this why people are abandoning professional sports in droves because this is not what they want it to be.

Link to the entire discussion and the video . https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/12/10/congratulations-to-al-michaels-on-being-elected-to-the-baseball-hall-of-fame/

Jim Eagle


Pass by it on the way to Cambridge but never stopped. It's east of my cousin in Hapenden.


wonder what the explanation was for this

Joe Biden: "We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics.”

tired, meds not quite dialed in, what you heard wasn't what you heard

that quote and clip got buried pretty well sort of like 'my muslim faith' ...

Jim Eagle

Talk about Sunday, reminds me that I wish there was a proper British pub nearby we could visit for a good roast:)


Another Bob,

It's also different items at different stores around here. My local pal couldn't find Cream of Tartar anywhere. Every time I order paper towels from Kroger, I either get none or they send me some off brand that is useless. My sister found Bounty at Costco, however, and brought me a couple of rolls.

I can't buy more than 2 half-gallons of ANY sort of chlorine bleach at the grocery. No more than 2 bottles of dish liquid at the grocery, either. On the other hand, we went to Dollar General the other day and they had no limit and even had bargain packs of Palmolive.

Very strange.


I’ve spent a lot of time in Braughing. Pretty much only one house there/castle where my friend lives.absolutely gorgeous , surrounded by gorgeous land as far as the eye can see.


Invocation, Presentation of the Colors, and National Anthem at yesterday's Army-Navy game, including President Trump's presence. Video at the link. 3 1/2 minutes.

This is America at it’s best🇺🇸
Take a look
You will be glad you did#ArmyNavy #SaturdayThoughts #HomeoftheBrave


— Rad123 (@Tombx7M) December 13, 2020

I answered BuffyUK's question about things I might miss in England and, of course, noticed afterward that there was a new thread, so I'm going to repost. I usually don't do this because I just usually ::shrug:: and think 'who'd be interested in this, but BuffyUK did ask the question :). So here goes:

BuffyUK: There are so many things I miss about London and England. :)

Marmite isn't one.

I never got over being thrilled at the pageantry -- the Horse Guards (we owned two horses--different times, first Crescent, a 14 hand bay, he passed away, and we bought another one, Lady a palomino--she didn't last, too nervous for the park, and then sponsored a third named Brandy) at a stable north of Hyde Park in a mews so we saw a lot of the soldiers riding in the park sometimes.) Also, when the mounted Queens Troop Royal Horse Artillery gave the gun salutes on the Queen's birthday, I always got a 'little excited'. Never failed to admire Buckingham Palace driving by there. I joined the Civil Service Riding Club for a short time and went to group lesson in the Palace's riding stables behind Buckingham Palace. Was thrilled to walk through the stables. When I was there they were painted (if my memory serves me correctly) a pale aqua and gold). I loved going out to all of the picturesque cities and towns. For some reason Burton-on-the-Water just popped into my head, so pretty. We took friends from the USA to Castle Combe a couple of times, stayed in the hotel there. Dr. Doolittle, 1967, was filmed there, and it is charming.

Too many things to list.

Also, the ease and quickness in going to France, Germany, Italy, Portugal, to name a few places we visited.

You are lucky to live there. How long? Will you stay forever? I would have -- with plenty of trips back here, because I love and am in love with the USA.


Any thoughts. This is over my pay grade?:https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1338061453127905280.html


MissMarple, 12:03: I don't think many corporations are going to quit sponsoring the NFL, if any. I read an article the other day, might have been posted on jom, that corporations are doubling down in their support of BLM.


clarice, joan,

Regarding the EO, I don't know. If corporations are being pushed by China, I bet their sales will drop.

That's all I know. I am going to take a nap. LOL!

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

clarice, 1:01.
I'm not the guy to answer since I tend to skim details.
But surely, if something was going to happen it would be visible by now.


Well, Miss Marple, I always admire your optimism and attitude about life.

I tend to be in a 'grrrr' period lately about the depth and breadth of the communists' takeover of our culture, education, and corporations. I think the NFL grrr is due to my husband who is 'absolutely through' with them and has been for a long time, plus Kaepernick's kneeling being embraced by too many players. I once enjoyed watching for the replays -- in slow motion -- absolute physical beauty at times. I love college football, but am not excited about it right now. They, too, love their BLM.


Don’t know Clarice, but I bet it’s interesting.


So let’s say the election is over. Biden wins but is not yet sworn in. Scads of ii]refutable election fraud comes out proving Trump won. Are we supposed to just shrug?

What if Biden is sworn in?


Thanks for the suggestion on my spice sage clarice.


When there is leftover garlic bread I let it dry and then use the vitamix to turn it into tasty breadcrumbs. Made it into a meatloaf last week that I just finished off for lunch.

James D.

Jane @ 1:24

Yes, that’s exactly what we’re expected to do: shrug and accept it. And all the “respectable” GOP will do it.


Any thoughts.

Yes, Clarice. Buy popcorn.

If it is true, it’s going to be exciting to watch. If not, then we can hoard and eat it when we are under house arrest.


If Trump invokes an executive order and the Dems challenge it, suddenly the Supreme Court will say that the Dems have standing.



Jim Eagle

In Tampa, across tthe State from us, it's over 95F on the Bucs football field. Here, we are socked in, about 50 feet of visibility. A little tough for the golfers:)


What if Biden is sworn in?

We are supposed to just shrug, unless we'd like to identify ourselves as ardent Trump fans (who are dangerous, racist and stupid).



sidney Powell writ of Mandamus to SCOTUS re Ga certification


Is your’s mean too? My mother constantly asks where I get my news, and if she doesn’t know the source, scoffs and laughs.

Jane, no, I wouldn't say she's mean, but we can't get through a conversation in which she doesn't manage to slip in some kind of snarky comment about how horrible Trump is. And all her information is from the NYT and NPR. I usually don't engage, but when she brought up "children in cages" I said, "You do know that happened under Obama, and the photos are from 2014." She had no idea, but managed later to find some source that said it was much worse under Trump, etc., etc.

Tom R

There were tweets earlier about a massive data leak showing the CCP has close to 2 million spies spread out around the world in major corporations, governments etc. I can’t find them now so maybe Twitter has zapped them. I am still looking will post if I can them.



some larping and in the bargaining phase of grief. barr and the courts have made clear where they stand and what side they are on.

this isn't going to get fixed with some magical thinking or some deepstaters riding to the rescue.

>>>that corporations are doubling down in their support of BLM.

Posted by: joan | December 13, 2020 at 01:01 PM<<<

i'd put "doubling down in their support" in sneer quotes ... and no point in having the expense of a corporate booth when the clients don't care for the game, employee perks are getting gutted, and fewer eyes are on the game.

Tom R


The tweet I am looking for has the link to the data dump but this link reports on it.


And the dhs guy they picked mayorkas a corrupt buddy of mcauliffe and a party to the vignola pardon built the cages.

Tom R

The ending to the LSU v Florida game was one of the most bizarre endings to a game I have ever seen. The refs call to the penalty is funny.



rubbing that salt in tom r ... i was what were you thinking.

an interception return for a td didn't help either.


Epoch Times on CCP leak:



we still got the sec championship game to make up for it.


The only football I'll watch this year was played yesterday and Army won!


Post with the database link:



I'm now getting 3-4 spoofs a day from "Pay PaL" These phishing scammers are out of hand. Then 10 calls a day from Pakistanis pretending to fix my microsoft and people wanting to help me extend my car warranty.

and then there are the guys--pretending they are my grandson who needs to be bailed from a Mexican jail.

This is getting intolerable,


Too cheap to wait 40 days and buy it from Hunter?



They called in the FBI, henry--well, that will quickly be resolved then.


Sure Clarice, right after they look at the Awans’ laptop.



I use robokiller. It probably blocks 20 calls a day and costs about 90 bucks a year. Well worth it.


Clarice - Reminds me of the movie "Fletch" with Chevy Chase. Lots of corruption, bribery, whatever and at some point he's in trouble and the cops arrive. His sarcastic response is,"Oh, good. The police are here."

The swamp is so much deeper than I would have thought.

Jim Eagle

Oh, I don't know about that game, TomR.

The Ball St. v. Western Kentucky ending was one for the books. It had everything during the winning TD except the Cal Band:)


Tom R


The problem with that play is that it wasn’t a winning TD play. It got called back for an illegal forward lateral. Still fun play to watch though.


Corporate ad support:


"TV advertisers may be preparing to turn the NFL’s biggest game into the “Social Justice Bowl” with hours of woke commercials and messaging.

"If reports on the ads coming for Super Bowl LV are to be believed, the funny and heartwarming ads, the cute kids and heroic animals will be running alongside Black Lives Matter themes.

"Along with social justice activism, advertisers may be preparing commercials filled with coronavirus messaging as well, according to Front Office Sports.

"Bill Oberlander, the co-founder of the social justice ad agency OBERLAND, insisted that marketers can no longer “duck” racial, social, and political issues.

"“It’s going to be ‘Black Lives Matter,’ it’s going to be COVID. It’s going to be [about] coming together,” Oberlander said of the coming commercial onslaught."

There's more, if you're interested.
No, didn't think so. :)


Good afternoon. Yesterday hubby cooked a kick ass lasagna. We had friends over (actually he is hubby's cousin). His wife stays in touch with the northern Maine side of the family, so lots of fun gossip! It was a wonderful distraction from politics. They lived in the same northern Maine town as we did when their girls and our daughter were in middle school, so lots *fun* remembering the terrible middle school years. :)


Yes the police chief was in league with mathesons alan stanwyck, btw jon hamm is on the remake.


Joan @ 3:04... speaking of corporate ads. Has anyone seen the Ritz cracker commercial? Whoa.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Stolen from a friend.
Psychology 101
By: Dick Anderson
December 12, 2020

If you start with a cage containing four monkeys, and inside the cage hang a banana on a string from the top, then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.

Now spray ALL the monkeys with cold water. After a while, another monkey makes an attempt with same result. As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray ALL the monkeys with cold water. Pretty soon, when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it. Now, put the cold water away.

Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new monkey. The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, ALL of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him. After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.

Next, remove another of the original four monkeys, replacing it with a new monkey. The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment - with enthusiasm -- because he is now part of the "team".

Then, replace a third original monkey with a new monkey, followed by the fourth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.

Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.

Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have never been sprayed with cold water.

Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.

Why, you ask? Because in their minds, that is the way it has always been!

This is how today's House and Senate operates; and this is why, from time to time,
ALL of the monkeys must be replaced AT THE SAME TIME!


re DC, monkeys would be an upgrade.


There is also thid

It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."
"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"
"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford. "It is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

-It’s going to be ‘Black Lives Matter,’ it’s going to be COVID. It’s going to be [about] coming together...-

...or else.




From Twitter:

"And why are they allowing new people to register to vote in the upcoming runoff. That is illegal. Only legal voters who voted in the last general election are allowed by Georgia constitution to vote in a runoff."
Is this true?


Is the super bowl in an empty stadium this time?


So we were talking about what a civil war would entail and how the leadership of various movements come about. From the militias of lebanon to the nicaraguan and cuban resistance to totalitarians. In ignatius agents he has an illuminating passage of how the militias built themselves, this is relayed by tom rogers discovering what tools they are acquiring.


Dude, maybe those slackers got fired because of their incompetence in allowing the hack.


Major story here. Foreign government has hacked Treasury; Trump removed the entire leadership at the Cyber and Infrastructure Agency weeks ago and there is a bevy of inexperienced folks having emergency meeting to respond.


Tom R

52K Americans listed among the 2 million CCP spies in the data leak.



There is another passage , the deuxieme chief explains to roger that what threw things out of kilter was the squirrel otherwise know as franjieh inviting the plo to reaide in lebanon and to openly bear arms in time all other factions took the hint.


Hasnt every govt agency been hacked at one time or another irs fbi cia even brennan himself?

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

A Brit pontificates on stupid American kids.


If this gross subversion of democracy is not dealt with in a satisfactory manner by the lawyers then I see no reason, no reason at all why America should not descend into violence and potential civil war in the worst case scenario, or simply lose all confidence in any future elections as a best case scenario — which can only and inexorably lead to the worse case scenario again.

Young, left-wing Americans will consider such a viewpoint insane, but young left-wing Americans know little of the brutality of the non-democratic parts of the world and little about just why that brutality never encroached upon their decadent lives.

They know nothing about Nazism, fascism, socialism or Communism. Indeed, they believe President Trump and the people who admire and respect Trump are Nazis and fascists all, whilst they believe socialism and communism to be pure and good. This type of brainwashed ignorance is extraordinarily dangerous in a people of any country because no matter their ignorance and no matter how wrong they are, they truly believe they are standing up for what is good, for what is right and for what is moral. And because they feel that they, and they alone hold the moral high ground, then all who oppose them are not just wrong, they are evil and when it comes to evil and the defeat of evil, then the ends justify the means — just as so many people amongst so many previous generations have similarly believed which is why the history book of the world is a history book of war, horror and atrocity.


Narciso, that seems to be true. Yet they (Wray, Barr et al) want to store the keys to everyone’s backdoors.


As legit as those 50 kibitzers re the hunter dossier.


Yes um no, fireeye itself said it was hacked. Maybe they shouldnt have acrutinizing perdues stock purchases.




James D.

Yet they (Wray, Barr et al) want to store the keys to everyone’s backdoors.

Of course they do.

Just because they (and the federal government generally) has failed utterly and repeatedly to secure the personal, medical and financial data of citizens, gov’t employees and the military, and just because there have been zero consequences of any kind to anyone responsible for these releases, decades-long failures, is no reason not to trust them this time, right?


This is why the stalker is yapping


President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

"If Trump invokes an executive order and the Dems challenge it, suddenly the Supreme Court will say that the Dems have standing."

As I recall: Afghan combatants not in uniform who were sent to Guantanamo? Have standing.
State of Texas and 70 million Trump voters? No standing.


Thats what tom fitton noted.


You dont even have to ask him



That german phrase


Jim Eagle

Do you believe in magic?

If not, this may change your mind:)



No, haven't seen the Ritz cracker commercial.
I'm almost afraid to ask -- two men kissing each other?


Close enough:



All righty that


Cecil Turner

Is this true?

How interesting. That is correct:

Paragraph II. Run-off election. A run-off election shall be a continuation of the general election and only persons who were entitled to vote in the general election shall be entitled to vote therein; and only those votes cast for the persons designated for the runoff shall be counted in the tabulation and canvass of the votes cast.


Jim- "brainwashed ignorance" is but an ingredient for an over-arching recipe for seizing power. Same goes for the selective amnesia among the likes of a McCain ( Stockholm syndrome?), and other pols old enough to know better.

Brits have short memories when it comes to real costs of blood and treasure on the altar of tyranny: 22 years following the butchering of a generation at the hands of the Kaiser and the cowardice of their military class, the British elites were ready to negotiate with Uncle Adolf on the eve of the Dunkirk evac.

The state of American youth is hardly even comparable to British naievete and decadence during the twilight of their empire.

Those with agency behind the tectonic shifts in the US and elsewhere currently underway are largely invisible as their recipes make dough rise, the souffles puff, and sauteez seep deep into proteins.

Now then, will those Brits care to analyze who will be among the first to die in the coming cataclysm menu set by "the chefs"? Biden-Kalame will be our servers.

Cecil Turner

IANAL, but . . . if you read a few of the election cases, there's a constant theme on standing. A candidate can sue if he loses, but a voter can't sue because his candidate loses. Raines v. Byrd is one of the cases that comes up.


Ritz needs to be fair and balanced re the sexual fluidity stupidity theme of their cracka commersh: bring back Andy Griffith as their spokesperson.

Hell, the " diverse people" in the ad dont even eat gluten- infested Ritz crackers. They eat the baked-not-fried-gluten-free-tastes-like-ass "Ritz", which aint Ritz. To each their own?

Ask Gillette.


.. only persons who were entitled to vote in the general election shall be entitled to vote..

C'mon, how can they expect to get the exact same fake voters as the first time?


CT, is the Georgia Sec State enforcing that provision? Do we know?


... but a voter can't sue because his candidate loses.

IRL, of course, a voter is disenfranchised when he loses his vote to election fraud, he is injured and aggrieved and should be able to seek redress for it legally. But who needs real life when you have The Law.

Manuel Transmission

Hi Cecil. Still driving those brown tailed birds? I always see a few more getting ready on the ramp outside the plant at KPAE. Glad we have the FAA protecting us from the Vax probably right up until it becomes mandatory.


KK and joan... when I saw the lipstick being applied in the Ritz commercial, I said to hubby, I'm not woke enough for this. :)

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

Two minutes of classical music, an appreciative audience and some joyful visual shenanigans.
Andre Rieu, Espana cani 2015


Posted by: hrtshpdbox | December 13, 2020 at 04:47 PM

the way the deepstateciafbi want it. how could anyone question their judgment.

ga is obviously turning a blind eye to the big stealv.2.

Tom R

if you read a few of the election cases, there's a constant theme on standing. A candidate can sue if he loses, but a voter can't sue because his candidate loses.

In that case why are some of the Team Trump lawsuits getting tossed for lack of standing? Trump intervened in the Texas case that the SCOTUS tossed due to standing. If Trump didn’t have standing in the Texas case then I have no clue what “standing” means.

President-Elect Jim,SunnyvaleCA

"I have no clue what standing means."

I'm beginning to perceive it means the court doesn't want to get involved so why don't the two of you go behind the barn and duke it out.

Tom R

Trump on standing.


Old Lurker

MM's question was if one had to have legally voted in the GA Nov 3 election to vote in the runoff.

Cecil's response was that only legal voters on Nov 3 can vote in the runoff.

That is different.

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