Variant COVID

The UK is being locked out of Europe based on fears of a new, more contagious COVID strain. Science Magazine has more.

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[Robin, eff 'em all]

Discord cancelled my account because of my joining a group that:

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That was fast.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

And staying on topic, my daughter's school district will be conducting surveillance testing in the schools starting Jan. 4th.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Just waiting for everyone to show up.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Lifetime ban?

https://www.theconeyislandblog.com/2020/12/18/nyc-restaurants-to-ban-cuomo-from-dining/

[Jim Eagle]

Robin,

I just showed up. Having a good old Irish fry with Frederick and Mrs. JIB.

Merry Christmas🎅

[Jim Eagle]

WaPo story Robin linked is paywalled. I get all my UK news from the Daily Torygraph and Euro news from Le Monde and De Staandard.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

Morning, Jack! How lovely that your teenager is up this early on his holiday. Is he still on UK time?

[henry]

Yes, new Kung Flu that defeats vaccine.

Convenient.

[Jim Eagle]

Robin,

Yep. UK time but that wont last long😁

[James D.]

Yay! More fear to sell, more power for bureaucrats to usurp!

[henry]

Quick, toss Fauci in! It’s the “scientific” way to stop Covid.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/eruption-reported-hawaiis-kilauea-volcano

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

A bug virtually harmless to virtually anyone not already virtually dead spreads faster than other variants which means we get this over with faster than otherwise?
How about they inject everyone with it instead of the vaccine?

[Another Bob]

“The vaccine is, also, not terribly scary.”

Objection your honor, assumes facts not in evidence. May well be the case, I don’t think we know just yet. I’m a little skeptical of development processes that get mixed up in politics.

I’m also trying hard not to think certain thoughts that this “new” strain magically gets lots of attention the day after the vaccine appears.

[Davod]

From previous thread.

The Pope will declare Biden a saint for the miracle of January 20, 2021. COVID will disappear from the world. The declaration will be made quickly because the miracle will be seen on TV screens around the world.

Cases and deaths will continue at the same rate.

[jimmyk]

Willowed and on topic:

So now Cuomo wants a travel ban? I thought that was stupid and racist when Trump imposed one back in January.

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article/Cuomo-U-S-should-ban-or-restrict-travel-from-15817658.php+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[Another Bob]

The “new” strain is not new, and has probably been here for a while.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--How does making your employees show proof of vaccination get around medical privacy? --

Linus told us how;

And it came to pass in those days that a decree went out from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be registered.

[Narciso]

Well its from europe dontcha know.

[Narciso]

From last nights thread one of the pieces of malware ocean lotus was vietnamese in origin.

[henry]

Ig, that and EEOC said so.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/eeoc-employees-covid-19-vaccine

Swamp at work. Subjects must stay in line.

[Narciso]

Minefield only live thing are zombies henry

Of course the jesus seminar, idiots like hanegraft dont believe the bible (what is the point of them)

[Narciso]

Dyer is a sharp analyst

https://libertyunyielding.com/2020/12/21/the-key-supporting-effort-appears-to-be-underway-on-trumps-operational-timeline/

[henry]

@vickimckenna

Reports: Zuckerberg "election grants" broke federal law (and state law) @empowerwi

https://twitter.com/vickimckenna/status/1341029532527194112?s=21

[Narciso]

Oh

https://mobile.twitter.com/Doc_0/status/1341029655026020359

[Narciso]

A cynic might wonder where the new strand of the virus came from.

[Narciso]

Curious

https://mobile.twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1340951240105193478

[Narciso]

Except older people are the most vulnerable right

https://mobile.twitter.com/gregggonsalves/status/1340607998448857088

[Buckeye]

If you didn’t invest the half hour to listen to this, you should.

Unless you have a degree in something like Molecular Genetics, reading his report will be difficult.

Sometimes a video is better:)

https://youtu.be/eK0C5tFHze8

If I understood him correctly, the mRNA vaccines should be equally effective with mutant strains of Covid 19.

[henry]

Like a bad penny.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/judge-emmet-sullivan-will-oversee-voting-rights-act-case-accusing-trump-of-anti-black-campaign-to-overturn-election/

[Young Lurker]

Good morning everyone! TM, thank you for linking to the Science article about the "new" strain, which I agree is probably not as new as we think and is probably also all over the place already.

Like Buckeye, my understanding is that the vaccines should still work against this strain. Furthermore, a neat feature of the mRNA approach is that it can be tweaked along with the mutations in the virus. I don't know whether that would require additional clinical trials. I also don't love how that could naturally lead to lots more "opportunities" to vaccinate for thing after thing. But in the event of an awful mutation/turn for the worse, a plus.

I also wondered about the "sudden, unprecedented" ~20 new mutations all at once.

And I also thought, "ok great maybe this will be over faster now!"

It's almost like we all think alike on JOM.. ;-)

[Narciso]

Well yes what does 'appears' mean and how big id the variance before antibodies arent effective.

[Old Lurker]

YL "It's almost like we all think alike on JOM.. ;-)"

On the total continuum of all thought, yes, yes we do. And we like it that way.

Within our little slice of that Bell Curve, we have a significant variability of Optimism:Pessimism.

The shorthand for that, here, is The Ledge vs everybody who ridicules those in the Ledge Bar each evening.

[Narciso]

Appears mays, that doesnt seem to sciency.

[Neo]

Damn. I keep getting ads for Democrats in Georgia and I live in Pennsylvania.
Google is cheating the Democrats.

[Narciso]

What the...

https://www.elle.com/life-love/amp35021224/martin-shkreli-christie-smythe-pharma-bro-journalist/

[Young Lurker]

OL I do chuckle to myself a little when I see e everyone arguing over HOW MUCH they approve of Trump within the range of strong to stronger and HOW DOOMED we all are by the left within the range of very to VERY very

[Buckeye]

The research Jr. has been involved with is focused on genetic modification of specific viruses to selectively attack specific cancer cells.

Yes, that scary genetic engineering stuff.

I quizzed him once about the safety, his dry response was, “No more dangerous than dying from cancer”.

[Neo]

I just loved that Science article .. NOT.

It displays everything I hate about journalism without being partisan. Mainly, it tells us nothing. Is there a name for this branch of the SARS-COv2 tree ? It's not there.

It's like reading a report on an election and the best they give you are percentages. People don't vote percentage (except maybe Maine). Or a court ruling that doesn't mention the name of the suit or the judge.

[Narciso]

Lockdowns dont slow the spread under normal circumstances why do they reach for that mallet?

[Melinda]

Justin Hart
@justin_hart
BREAKING! Do mask mandates work? Our analysis below.
We looked at cases on days where mask mandates were in place vs when they were not. We calculated the cases per day adjusted for population and:

WITH MASK MANDATE:
27 cases per day per 100K people

NO MASK MADATE
17 cases

https://twitter.com/justin_hart/status/1340725086278434821

[Len]

Here in PA, where restaurants are closed because SCIENCE, we went out for breakfast at a place that is off the beaten path and is open because they can't afford to be closed. A small but welcome taste of rebellion.

[Old Lurker]

In the vast universe of all thought, JOM can manufacture the most amazing tempest in our little teapot.

[Neo]

Cuomo: U.S. should ban or restrict travel from U.K. due to new coronavirus strain

Perhaps, Cuomo could ban all UK travelers from restaurants in NY .. haha

[Melinda]

Hold that thought, OL....

(kidding, I gots nuthin'. For the moment...)

[henry]

Of course they did.

@junkscience

Swamp sticks climate language and cash in COVID relief bill.

Bill will pointlessly raise the price of air conditioning and shovel $35 billion in taxpayer subsidies at wind/solar fraudsters.

Please veto this, @realDonaldTrump.

https://twitter.com/junkscience/status/1341035387368722435?s=21

[Captain Hate]

Reading anything on a blog by Dan Abrams is not good for one's mental well-being.

[Narciso]

Who filed the suit, the piranha bros im guessing elias or brennan center, what do i win?

[Buckeye]

I wonder how many kids think,

“I’m gonna study climate change, so I can get part of a $35 billion gravy train”.

Probably depends on whether a parent is a politician.

[henry]

NAACP, and Sherrilyn Ifill filed it.

[BuffyUK]

Joan, I went to your link but they wouldn't deal with me, something to do with com vs co.uk. I'd love to read it Carol W UK 2021 at aol dot com.

I like your cover. Have you tried fiverr.com? I've used that site for logos, got a great one for $25.

I love every word in this poem:

https://www.poemtree.com/poems/Silver.htm

[Buckeye]

HFCs are a small percentage of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, compared with emissions of heat-trapping carbon dioxide from the fossil fuels that power vehicles, electric plants and factories, but they have 1,000 times the heat-trapping potency of carbon dioxide.

Duh.

Gonna play hell making a refrigerator without something effective at trapping heat!

[Narciso]

Michigan welfare rights org, thats a new card

[sbwaters]

JOM can manufacture the most amazing tempest in our little teapot

Doesn’t come close to academic tantrums where they argue so fiercely over so little.

[Jane]

Okay8, let me get this straight. We got the Lockerbie bomber. Didn’t that happen in 1988?

So can we count on Obama going to jail in 2035?

[BuffyUK]

I thought Europe liked selling their food to the UK. Shutting down the border just means we'll be forced to eat more Brussels sprouts, which are great roasted.

[sbwaters]

Brussels sprouts need bacon to be palatable.

[BuffyUK]

I flew PanAm Flight 103 six days before the one that got blown up. I kept the boarding card for ages, then threw it away thinking it was too macabre.

[BuffyUK]

Plenty of cauliflower here too, plenty of vegetables all round. I haven't tried bacon, tend to dribble apple cider vinegar or lemon juice on what gets roasted.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
32m
Governor @BrianKempGA and his puppet @GeoffDuncanGA, together with the Secretary of State of Georgia, are very slow on Signature Verification, and won’t allow Fulton County to be examined. What are these RINOS hiding? We will easily win Presidential State race. @KLoeffler
and....

....@sendavidperdue
will not be able to win on January 5th. unless these people allow Signature Verification in presidential race. K & D need it for their race also, & Georgia spirit will rise to such a high that they will easily bring home a great victory. Move fast @BrianKempGA

[Narciso]

its some new character maguid, who they now say was the bomb maker, but for the last 32 years, they didn't know who he was,

[BuffyUK]

Am I the only one that thinks every type of high tech spy gear will be used in Georgia on the 5th?

[Jane]

SBW,

Thank you for your explanation in the last threads. Beginning to sound like discrimination is always an excuse to be an asshole.

[hrtshpdbox]

Brussels sprouts need bacon to be palatable.

Nah, just butter and plenty of salt. In my Big Three of fave veggies - broccoli, asparagus, brussels sprouts.

[Old Lurker]

Buffy "Am I the only one that thinks every type of high tech spy gear will be used in Georgia on the 5th?"

You are assuming the GOPe learns anything, ever.

There is no reason to think that.

[MissMarple2]

https://thenationalpulse.com/commentary/cortes-if-biden-were-sure-of-his-victory-hed-welcome-transparency/

Cortes was in charge of the Hispanic outreach and gives really good short videos with a white board, explaining complicated issues with clear, easy to understand points. This is a good article asking about states and areas which won't allow transparency on things like voter turnout or error rates on absentee ballots.

[Jane]

Buffy, 2 questions:

How locked down are you?

How did you find us?

[Narciso]

the whole thing hinged on a circuit board made by a swiss firm mister bollier, who sold ex number of these items to the libyan government, this was in a little noted in a joseph finder thriller, zero hour,

[BuffyUK]

I had cool spy glasses that recorded, with the blue light covered with tape, for the November 3 election but my sister wouldn't let me poll watch. She's smarter than me.

[henry]

@WSJ

Attorney General William Barr said he won't appoint a special counsel to investigate President Trump's claims of election fraud or allegations against Hunter Biden

[BuffyUK]

Jane, my sister pointed me towards JOM. I've been reading here for at least four years, finally got the courage to jump in.

We live west of London, in tier 3. Lock down is a hideous joke on the lower orders. None of the elite will be inconvenienced.

[MissMarple2]

My local friend who just got back from California has a married son who arrived just a couple of days ago from the UK (his wife has been here a week visiting relatives in another state). Now she is worried about his travel BACK to the UK so she is going crazy dealing with Newsom's edicts in California and the stuff Prime Minister Johnson is doing in the UK.

[BuffyUK]

Henry, Barr's too busy going to leaving parties before Wednesday.

[hrtshpdbox]

Attorney General William Barr said he won't appoint a special counsel to investigate President Trump's claims of election fraud or allegations against Hunter Biden "I'm a big loser, just like all the rest".

[BuffyUK]

Miss Marple, I suggest flying to Dublin, taking the 2 hour bus to Belfast and flying, or else taking the overnight "coach", via Stranraer, from there.

[JimNorCal]

"The UK is being locked out of Europe"

First they don't want U.K. to leave.
Then they don't want them to stay, so complicated!

I wonder which group Robin joined on Discord to get her banned? Also, when the commissars come, will TM get in trouble for hosting the JOM hotbed of sedition?

[BuffyUK]

And Europe is being locked out of the UK, the busiest shopping week of the year. When you lose a customer, it gets really expensive wooing them back.

[Narciso]

splunge, but they are not being indecisive,

[Momto2]

From what I'm hearing the Georgia run-off election will not be any different from the Nov. (stolen) one.

So our officials meet the definition - the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results”

[rse]

https://www.aspeninstitute.org/blog-posts/a-job-quality-agenda-for-the-next-administration/

We need a new vision for work, one that is rooted in the ideals of freedom, fairness, and universal human dignity as much as in the persistent pursuit of economic efficiency. For most Americans, work is both a means to support oneself and one’s family and an important source of human connection and social identity. Success at work can expand access to resources that in turn expand choices and freedoms. How communities and businesses should operate to improve job quality and expand opportunity for all has been a central concern of our work as Job Quality Fellows. We can progress toward a more inclusive and equitable future through businesses, workers, investors, government, and others working together to create the good jobs that enable workers to thrive, companies to be productive and profitable, and communities to benefit from healthy, sustainable economies.

Americans see virtue in work and believe hard work should offer a pathway to economic security. But decades of lagging wages, eroding benefits, declining employment security, and insufficient attention to addressing barriers to equity and inclusion mean that too many jobs are not a pathway to an economically stable life. This inequality of economic opportunity and decline in job quality is the central issue leading to the erosion of shared opportunity and economic prosperity. To restore the ideal of work as the pathway to the American Dream, our economy needs more quality jobs.

And unicorn rides for all.

[MissMarple2]

Israel to Close Its Skies to Keep Out Coronavirus Mutation

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-21/israel-to-close-its-skies-to-keep-out-coronavirus-mutation

Foreigners will not be permitted to enter Israel and Israelis who return to the country from abroad within the next 48 hours will be required to quarantine at home. Those returning after will be sent to government-run facilities for isolation

[Narciso]

like with my novella, it turns out a piece of evidence in an earlier plot, was the exact order# of a component, that was shipped on ups, who would have that information a newcomer of someone who had been with the organization for a while,

[rse]

Progress will entail strengthening existing roles as well as shouldering new roles by employers, workers, labor organizations, governments, investors, philanthropy, and the public as consumers and as citizens actively holding their elected representatives accountable.

How do we non-Marxists hold our elected representatives responsible if the Marxists are allowed to vote multiple times, from the grave, have their votes magnified in how they count by defective or effective for actual purpose voting machines?

This Human Development Society agenda actually means that votes that would never be for anyone openly on board with it get cancelled out by the fraud. It;s the appearance of electoral choice without the reality of it.

A mere facade of a republic.

[Narciso]

would one drone take out the aspen institute, or two?

[rse]

One more sampling--

We cannot solve inequality, we cannot advance racial justice, and we cannot address the deep divisions in our society without making work work for everyone – which means that now, more than ever, is a moment for investing in quality jobs.

No such thing as economics. That gets overriden by government mandates and soft law like required 'standards' that must be adhered to.

[Jane]

Thanks Buffy. Hard to believe people are afraid to jump in here. We really like newcomers.

[Jane]

Whoa! Barr won’t appoint a special prosecutor for Hunter? What the hell is with that?

[Melinda]

Andy Puzder
@AndyPuzder
CNN’s ⁦@JohnJHarwood⁩ argues that @realDonaldTrump⁩’s has an historically bad economic record compared to his predecessors. In reality Trump’s record is one for which any president would be proud & any Democrat would be praised.

foxbusiness.com/economy/trump-

https://twitter.com/AndyPuzder/status/1341048389711110145

[henry]

togam immaculata virginitas

[KevlarKid]

"How communities and businesses should operate to improve job quality and expand opportunity for all has been a central concern of our work as Job Quality Fellows"

rse- "Job Quality Fellows" is an absurdity akin to the (CA) Oakland Schools " Dept. Of Manhood" set up to educate Black male youth.

Grant money perqs for party members. No pay backee!

[KevlarKid]

Barr should just get over himself woth these false promises and quote the singer Beck in one of his more entertaining songs "I'm a big loser baby! Why dontcha kill me."

His catch all epitaph can read "I didnt do it."

[KevlarKid]

CNN's John Harwood swilled too much purple medicine as a bambino and crushed fried eggs cooked cottonseed oil. Stranded on Lizard Brain Island with the rest of the TDS " delusionaries."

IHTFP.

[KevlarKid]

Missing an "in". How rude.

[Captain Hate]

I don't know if the enemedia is engaged in gaslighting everyone 24/7 or if the swamp is so fucking big that only Trump and Grenell aren't part of it but I'm very close to tuning everything out.

[Narciso]

it's as long as the trenches in 1917, and nearly as deep,

[KevlarKid]

Proud Mama and Papa Kid: Levon crushed a 3.5 his first smester in grad school ( Masters in accountancy). Two more to go. He's back home tomorrow night. First time since last Dec due to the COVIDDY DIDDY.

[KevlarKid]

With you on that, CH.

[Robin, eff 'em all]

I wonder which group Robin joined on Discord to get her banned?

I joined the Trump Patriots channel that was organizing by state to meet up on Jan. 6th. The upstate NY contingent was meeting on I-81 south of Syracuse and then flashing lights as they passed each entrance to the interstate for people to join for the drive to DC.

[KevlarKid]

Jan 6th- an auspicious day for a trek to DC.
Show Prog elites they can only dream of "grassroots" movement.

[KevlarKid]

Interesting ad out that's promoting Forest Hanks' latest flick "In theaters only- Christmas Day."

Guess the producers got some inside info?

[KevlarKid]

Two snow man jokes making the round out in Dad's Virginia retarrmint community:

Sittin next to each other on a bench one says to the other:

Haven't seen Ralph since he moved to Florida.

Same day the other one asks:

Say...do you smell carrots?

______

He's killin me.