Waiting For The Defense Bill Veto

Will he or won't he, and when? Trump promised to veto the defense bill but has until Dec 23 to do so. Congress will be home for the holidays but might come back before New Years. Or they might assemble the old Congress and the new one on Jan 3 and let the outgoers override the veto in the morning. Whether elderly retirees will agree to make the trip during a pandemic compounds the suspense.

Trump's rationales include Section 230 modifications to go after Facebook and Twitter and non-renaming of the military bases named for Confederate traitors generals. Some of those names were picked for new WWI bases under Lost Causer Woodrow Wilson. Others were named under FDR. In each case, promoting the US Army to martial Southern white boys was a marketing strategy that is now past the sell-by date. [Full disclosure - On this issue I channel the ghosts of my New England ancestors on this, some of whom died fighting for the Right Side.]

From Politico quoting Trump's tweet:

"I will Veto the Defense Bill, which will make China very unhappy. They love it," Trump tweeted. "Must have Section 230 termination, protect our National Monuments and allow for removal of military from far away, and very unappreciative, lands. Thank you!"

 

Comments

[Outlandrr]

You are a 'diamond in a goat's ass', TM...

[Jim Eagle]

Bringing over from the previous thread:

"Back in my Southern Maryland days, I bought a 1967 Super Sport from a guy who had set it up to drag race at Budd's Creek near Chalk Point. I will bet CH knows the area. It had an Edelbrock header, Dual Holley carberautors, a 428 rear end. Not something for your average 12 mile commuted down 301.

Drove it on several weekends to Southampton. Got lots of attention from the locals but obvioius disdain from the Summer Society crowd. Got about 12 miles to the gallon which finally convinced me to get rid of it for a more pedestrian Mustang convertible."

Posted by: Jack is Back! | December 19, 2020 at 10:19 AM

Jack is Back!
Forgot. 396 V8 HP.

[Narciso]

In an era when danish abolitionists cervantes and even frederick douglas get cancelled its not about confederates.

[Manuel Transmission]

Willowed,

In the fall of 85, Jr was in his plebe year at Annapolis. We would fly over for the football games and stay at the Maryland Inn downtown. Once Jr was allowed off campus he would beeline into our room and turn on MTV, and I think about every 15 minutes, Money for Nuthin came on. Fortunately Dire Straits is a fave of ours to this day.

Re songs triggering memories, I developed a theory: we normally live in a thought bubble that is a way to keep our brain from having to work too hard. When we are transported into a wholly new environment like moving to a new town, the brain is in max processing mode. Any new song on the radio will embed quickly as it goes right into a new core memory of that new realm. After that, you can’t hear the song without a core dumb of everything else that was in that memory block.

[hrtshpdbox]

In each case, promoting the US Army to martial Southern white boys was a marketing strategy that is now past the sell-by date.

Elitist attitudes about both the south and the military in a sentence so short it doesn't need a comma.

[Captain Hate]

That sounds like a sweet ride, Jack

That strip sounds like Aquasco which wasa bit too far south for me. I went to Capital near Crofton or 75/80 in Monrovia where we towed my buddy's 57 Chevy with a 327 or pre Stingray Vette with a 350.

https://www.dragzine.com/news/video-take-a-haunting-tour-of-marylands-abandoned-75-80-dragway/

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Yeah it was Aquasco but I thought it was called Budd's Creek? Maybe I am confusing locations and venues. Chalk Point Power Plant was Pepco and I would visit once and a while when I was on Morgantown (the plant next to the 301 bridge. Used to eat lunch at that cheesy Aqualand across the road until we found the crab joints up at Pope's Creek.

Good times, good days.

[Jim Eagle]

From PJ Media, h/t Insty: The funniest damn thing you will ever see today, tomorrow and yesteryear.:)

https://pjmedia.com/culture/jeff-reynolds/2020/12/12/50th-anniversary-of-the-funniest-thing-that-ever-happened-oregons-exploding-whale-n1206513

[henry]

@WSJ

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo explicitly blamed Russia for the SolarWinds hack that compromised numerous federal agencies and U.S. corporations, making him the first U.S. official to publicly do so

[Captain Hate]

Jack,

At this site they talk about an MIR strip at Budd's Creek, which I hadn't previously heard about. I knew there were some small tracks to the south of me that made funny cars use chutes if they broke the eleven second barrier because their shutdown areas were too short for brakes to handle. Maybe that was one of them.

https://www.atomicpinup.com/Aquasco_Speedway.html

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump https://washex.am/3nwaBCe. A great report by Peter. Statistically impossible to have lost the 2020 Election. Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there, will be wild!

[MissMarple2]

I do NOT understand why that tweet by President Trump posted twice.

[Another Bob]

"In each case, promoting the US Army to martial Southern white boys was a marketing strategy that is now past the sell-by date."

SMH

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
1m
The Cyber Hack is far greater in the Fake News Media than in actuality. I have been fully briefed and everything is well under control. Russia, Russia, Russia is the priority chant when anything happens because Lamestream is, for mostly financial reasons, petrified of...

....discussing the possibility that it may be China (it may!). There could also have been a hit on our ridiculous voting machines during the election, which is now obvious that I won big, making it an even more corrupted embarrassment for the USA. @DNI_Ratcliffe @SecPompeo

[rse]

Devon Dalio, the 42-year-old son of hedge fund founder Ray Dalio, died in a car crash this week, a family spokesperson said Friday. The family spokesperson confirmed the death in a Thursday afternoon crash to Hearst Connecticut Media. An Audi had crashed into a Verizon store at a shopping center and burst into flames, Greenwich police and Fire Chief Joseph McHugh said. The cause of the crash is still under investigation, Greenwich Police Department Public Information Officer Mark Zuccerella said. The Verizon store was largely destroyed, the newspaper reported.

Gracious.

[BuffyUK]

Stephanie, I was singing "Well hello Mr. Soul" for weeks after watching the Laurel Canyon documentary. Wonderful.

Jack: "Seagulls were scared away..."

I think this is really funny:

"Her two kids in high school, they tell her that she's uncool, cause she's still preoccupied with 19, 19, 1985"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K38xNqZvBJI

[KevlarKid]

"traitors"

But today's Democrats are real patriots, you see.

Scumbag logic.

[BuffyUK]

I want to go to DC on the 6th. Will it be worth being quarantined for two weeks though?

[Buckeye]

Mrs. Buckeye woke up with an earache and slight sore throat.

Do people still get common colds, or did the CDC outlaw them along with the flu?

[Captain Hate]

All deaths are Covid, comrade, including suicides.

[Buckeye]

Go Bucks!

[jimmyk]

Jane, from the last thread: “Btw I sent you 2 $500 checks which were cashed and I’m still not in!”

One more should do it. Promise.

Seriously, I would have thought you were a charter member. You’re really not in? You must not have tried. If they let me in the standards can’t be too high.

[jimmyk]

“All deaths are Covid”

On the NYC website it says that any death within 60 days of a positive test counts as COVID, so evidently even if you were hit by a bus. There was a story about two gun deaths in CO that we’re listed as COVID.

[KevlarKid]

All- time favorite Dire Straits tune... first heard it during intermission at a Dead jam in San Fran during DS first album break-out stateside. "Who are those guys?"

Bugs Bunny blotter acid-etched tat on a simple tune fr a simpler time.

Water of Love

[Buckeye]

Pro Tip.

Vaccines are “available” at The Ledge bar.

Bring yer Bitcoins;)

[MissMarple2]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/source-hunter-bidens-gun-was-taken-by-hallie-biden-in-2018-thrown-into-a-supermarket-garbage-can-went-missing-and-no-arrests-were-made

Very weird story. At the bottom we are told that Hunter had Secret Service protection until
July 8, 2014.

[Davod]

MM2. Importance.

[KevlarKid]

BuffUK: " ...stick around while the clown who is sick does the trick of disaster."

🎯

[KevlarKid]

"Devon Dalio, the 42-year-old son of hedge fund founder Ray Dalio, died in a car crash this week, a family spokesperson said"

COVID-related. /sarc

[Another Bob]

"On the NYC website it says that any death within 60 days of a positive test counts as COVID, "

Have a link handy for that jimmy? I'm poking around on nyc.gov now and haven't seen that yet.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/7-year-old-tennessee-boy-saves-baby-sister-from-burning-home

...He told WVLT, "It's OK to be scared, but you're brave inside and you can do it when you want to."

[Another Bob]

Ah, nevermind. Just found it.

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

Under "Defining Confirmed and Probable Cases and Deaths".

[Another Bob]

"COVID-19 cases and deaths are categorized as probable or confirmed.

Confirmed Case: Positive result from a molecular test, such as a PCR test. Unless specifically labeled as "probable cases," data on cases are for confirmed cases only.

Probable Case: Defined as any of the following:
Positive antigen test result
Person has symptoms and was exposed to a confirmed case
Person died and their cause of death on the death certificate is COVID-19 or similar, but a positive molecular test is not on record

Confirmed Death: Death within 60 days of a positive molecular test

Probable Death: Cause of death on the death certificate is COVID-19 or similar, but a positive molecular test is not on record"

[BuffyUK]

kevlarkid

"She said you're strange but don't change and I letter" - is what I heard.

[Captain Hate]

Marshall Crenshaw:

There's a certain appeal to danger and pain
When she whispered these words I said "what's your name?"

[lyle]

https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2020/12/19/1000-accurate-babylon-bees-journalists-guide-for-reporting-on-politicians-perfectly-nutshells-dc-journalism/

Satire is dead. Long live satire!

[MissMarple2]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50541082

An overlooked story from November 25, in which it was reported that China was trying to get a Chinese-Australian guy into Parliament.

The Chinese-Australian man who reported this has since been found dead in a hotel room under mysterious circumstances.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Every time you listen to Bing Crosby’s “White Christmas,” about five people have died from the coronavirus between the beginning and the end of the song.

Latest scaremongering from WaPo. F em all.

[MissMarple2]

Stephanie:

So, is the solution to NOT listen to "White Christmas?"

SCIENCE!

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Maybe if we put it on loudspeakers and run it through the streets of DC? Shades of Mars Attacks... LOL

[lyle]

Hey, if we all stopped listening to White Christmas then the commie flu death rate drops! QED, idiots.

[lyle]

Beat me by —>that<— much, MM! 😉

[lyle]

Excellent, Steph!

[BuffyUK]

Live from Stonehenge:

https://www.facebook.com/englishheritage/live/

Sunday 20 December, a bit after 15:54 GMT so about 11:00 am tomorrow morning EST is SUNSET

Monday 21 December, a bit after 8 am GMT so about 3 am Monday morning EST is SUNRISE

and it's all uphill from there!

[CCGirl]

“Every time you listen to Bing Crosby’s “White Christmas,” about five people have died from the coronavirus between the beginning and the end of the song.”

Utter fear porn. It’s criminal, Stephanie.

What did they mean when they said, “Charlie Pride died from complications from COVID?” Hubs and I think that’s very vague.

[MissMarple2]

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2020/12/18/scotus-census-n2581805?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=12/18/2020&bcid=9d7d8fe1db1a2fb40e1250fec29a9d7d&recip=20314017

[Manuel Transmission]

Kev, definitely one of my faves.

There’s something about MK that intrigues me. A certain mellow intellect that seems to permeate his stuff. May be why his album with Chet Atkins works. Two laid back guys who make it happen.

[lyle]

It means that the care facility where Charlie died gets more federal lucre.

[lyle]

MK’s guitar work on Dylan’s Infidels makes it my favorite of Bob’s albums, MT.

[CCGirl]

Time to bake cookies and listen to Mark Knopfler radio on Pandora! 🎸

[Buckeye]

Northwestern playing better than Ohio State.

Helps when you don’t lose guys and get to play.

Probably find out the team has been on hydroxychloroquine and zinc since day one.

[Momto2]

Person died and their cause of death on the death certificate is COVID-19 or similar

SO...what exactly is *similar* to COVID-19?

[Jane]

Jimmy,

I’m chartered. Just wanted to pull your hairy leg!

[Jane]

Jimmy, (again). The 2 fake deaths you mentioned are 40% of the total COVID deaths in that town!

[Jane]

Buckeye,

I doubt any of us on the ledge will take the vaccine. Plus you have to be black.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/ftlALc6UWn

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Video at link of demonstrations for the President all over the world.

[peter]

If White Christmas is outlawed, only outlaws will have White Christmas

[CCGirl]

Oh, MissM, that video makes me so sad. We should not be going through this. But I also so glad I am a part of it!

Beautiful red cardinal in the holly tree out back! Very Christmas-like. Sun shining on the snow, and the birds are all over the place.

[CCGirl]

I’m - duh

[Narciso]

Its gone zombie lyle. Make that clear.

[lyle]

SO...what exactly is *similar* to COVID-19?

Ahem, called seasonal flu...

[lyle]

Yep, narc.

[Manuel Transmission]

Speaking of seasonal music, my fave from Windham Hill is Winter Solstice.

Perfect ambiance for the time of year.

[lyle]

Insty:

WE’VE DESCENDED INTO SOME SORT OF BIZARRE HELL-WORLD IN WHICH RALPH NADER IS A VOICE OF SANITY

Followed by this boilerplate:

Just think of the media as Democratic Party operatives with bylines terrified of upsetting their former boss, and it all makes sense.

I quibble only with the word “former.”

[lyle]

Couldn’t agree more, MT. Just listened to that last night. Still very cool after, what...30 years?

[Narciso]

For whom mr jenkins

https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-is-a-climate-dead-end-11608331407?mod=opinion_lead_pos8

[jimmyk]

You doubted me, AB? :)

I would have provided the link, but I was posting from my phone, and then was away for a couple of hours.

[Narciso]

Priorities

https://mobile.twitter.com/ClimateAudit/status/1340170279209885698

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/6YpmZqdP4k

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Video at link. Georgia vote-count irregularities detailed by observer in OAN interview.

[henry]

White [Privilege] Christmas (Vid at link)

@rantyamycurtis

Just so y’all know: Candy Cane Lane is private homes that decorate to raise money for the MACC Fund.

This is who BLM chooses to harass. A week before Christmas.

https://twitter.com/rantyamycurtis/status/1340147138953682950?s=21

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
8m
Very happy to have helped get @WreathsAcross
America so beautifully open and operating today. Congratulations to all of those who have worked so hard for this great success!

[MissMarple2]

Here is the Twitter page for Wreaths Across America, which has over 2100 locations.

https://twitter.com/WreathsAcross

[Another Bob]

"You doubted me, AB? :"

Never.

Was just doing my own work, wasn't seeing it, then saw it just after I asked.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
8m
The entire WORLD is being badly hurt by the China Virus, but if you listen to the Fake News Lamestream Media, and Big Tech, you would think that we are the only one. No, but we are the Country that developed vaccines, and years ahead of schedule!
=========================

'We cannot continue with Christmas as planned.'

The festive bubble policy across Tier 1, 2 and 3 areas of England will be dramatically scaled back to just Christmas Day.https://t.co/TvIFYcutK3 pic.twitter.com/KSvS3eSrfO

— ITV News (@itvnews) December 19, 2020

Video at link of Boris Johnson spreading Christmas gloom.

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
7m
We don’t want to have lockdowns. The cure cannot be worse than the problem itself!
=========================

Areas currently in tier 3 in south-east England, including London, will enter tier 4 from tomorrow morning

PM Boris Johnson says tier 4 "will be broadly equivalent" to November's lockdown

Latest updates: https://t.co/VQFVN57a0p pic.twitter.com/ogyc8WiQ10

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) December 19, 2020

Link goes to another video of Boris Johnson speaking.

[CCGirl]

WE’VE DESCENDED INTO SOME SORT OF BIZARRE HELL-WORLD IN WHICH RALPH NADER IS A VOICE OF SANITY

Ain’t that the truth. It’s so sad it’s quite funny!

[Captain Hate]

Again the acquiesce of religious fake leaders as Christmas is cancelled speaks volumes of how they've taken a knee to Herod. Absolutely disgraceful.

[Captain Hate]

Not to mention acquiescence...

[MissMarple2]

https://electionwiz.com/2020/12/19/cyber-expert-evidence-that-comes-forward-in-next-few-days-will-drastically-change-playing-field/amp/

Link on this page goes to a 7-minute interview of Russell Ramsland by Greg Kelly.

[KevlarKid]

MT- I dig the MKChet album!

[Jim Eagle]

CH,

Been away but thanks for that link to Aquasco/Budd's Creek Drag strip.Many a great Friday night there.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/xcN3Dur87Q

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Link goes to 9:46 minute interview of Victoria Toensing and Joe DiGenova by OANN.

[Captain Hate]

You're welcome, Jack. Aquasco drew top drawer talent but it was just too long a haul for me, particularly because I was working at gas stations during the summers in high school and would go to the track after getting off work.

[MissMarple2]

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1340349856574038017

Wrapped thread for those who don't go to Twitter:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1340349856574038017.html

NYT claims Sidney Powell was considered as special counsel for investigation of election fraud. How much of this is believable, I don't know. The Left is convinced this would be unconstitutional, as well as martial law would be, according to some of the replies. Their hysteria seems to be ramping up.

[MissMarple2]

Captain Hate,

I am so used to pumping my own gas I had forgotten that most gas stations used to have guys pump your gas for you!

[MissMarple2]

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
23m
The lie of the year is that Joe Biden won! Christina Bobb @OANN

[Jim Eagle]

MM,

I think in New Jersey it is the law to have gas pumped only by attendants, at least at the service stops on the Turnpike.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/UtbrPnJKz1

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Video at link of OAN panel discussing Biden's speech; 4 1/2 minutes.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/UtbrPnJKz1

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Video at link of OAN panel discussing Biden's speech; 4 1/2 minutes.

[MissMarple2]

Ack! I need a new mouse or better control of my left-hand!

[MissMarple2]

Jack,

Around here they disappeared beginning in the late 70's; some "budget" stations gave you a 5-cent or so break on price if you pumped your own.

Now there are none, and all gas is self-pumped.

[hrtshpdbox]

WE’VE DESCENDED INTO SOME SORT OF BIZARRE HELL-WORLD IN WHICH RALPH NADER IS A VOICE OF SANITY

Or Oliver Stone. On release of JFK files:

"Trump got rolled. I think he truly wanted a release of all files, but as with everything else in the “Deep State,” the Chief Priests told him, “You can’t do that” and cited as cause “national security,” etc.; the et cetera going back to 1963."

https://www.thewrap.com/oliver-stone-jfk-assassination-files-trump-got-rolled-deep-state/

[jimmyk]

It may have changed in the last few years, but for a long time NJ didn't allow you to pump your own gas. And gas was a lot cheaper than in NY.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/tVpKRrC8VP

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Link goes to 1:30 video of "Closing Comments" by Christina Bobb on OAN.

[Captain Hate]

Pump gas, clean the winshield, check the oil and tire pressure if requested.

Change oil, tires (automatic tire machines ftw), flush radiators, gap spark plugs, adjust timing, change water pumps. Putting cars on lifts always made me nervous; I always put the pads on the frame fine but a friend of mine had a car fall off one which made him the wrong kind of local legend.

[Pinandpuller]

Ha! “The Right Side”? Do you feel like a winner, Tom Maguire?

“The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.”
Robert E. Lee

[lyle]

https://babylonbee.com/news/lebron-james-to-be-appointed-as-china-ambassador

Satire is...ah, fuggedaboutit.

[MissMarple2]

pic.twitter.com/Xr1fgfxPr2

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2020

Link goes to video of Laura Ingraham about Trump's triumphs.

[Another Bob]

"I think in New Jersey it is the law to have gas pumped only by attendants"

Oregon too. (At least last time I was there.)