Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn

The Wapo:

Six hours of paralysis: Inside Trump’s failure to act after a mob stormed the Capitol

Hiding from the rioters in a secret location away from the Capitol, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) appealed to Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law and senior adviser. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) phoned Ivanka Trump, the president’s daughter.

And Kellyanne Conway, a longtime Trump confidante and former White House senior adviser, called an aide who she knew was standing at the president’s side.

But as senators and House members trapped inside the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday begged for immediate help during the siege, they struggled to get through to the president, who — safely ensconced in the West Wing — was too busy watching fiery TV images of the crisis unfolding around them to act or even bother to hear their pleas.

“He was hard to reach, and you know why? Because it was live TV,” said one close Trump adviser. “If it’s TiVo, he just hits pause and takes the calls. If it’s live TV, he watches it, and he was just watching it all unfold.”

Leadership that's shirking.

 

Comments

[MissMarple2]

Willowed:

Ugh. Had on Bannon's show and dosed off, thanks to the space heater and old dog Pibby's snoring.

Woke up to Nancy pontificating about the impeachment and reminding us that her father was the first Italian-American in Congress and then going on to talk about November 22, 1963.

At that, given the Italy connections we discussed a day or two ago and her reference to the Kennedy assassination, I got totally creeped out and turned it off.

[MissMarple2]

"I just don't even know why there aren't more uprisings all over the country– and maybe there will be."@RepLouieGohmert quotes @SpeakerPelosi. pic.twitter.com/8uIWLzxD59

— Washington Examiner (@dcexaminer) January 13, 2021

Video at the link.

[henry]

Yes, and some men prefer to coddle the arsonists [BLM, Antifa, Occupy, MoveOn, EarthFirst, etc] by blaming flames on the fire department.

[Porchlight]

Willowed:

He pretends that the problem is symmetric, both from the conservative and liberal media, neglecting that 99% of the MSM are bomb-throwing (metaphorically for now) leftists.

Self-styled "moderates" always do this "extremism on both sides" BS. This is part of the virtue signalling.

Still, I'll take what I can get from the Greenwalds/Kauses/Taibbis.

[Porchlight]

There's some complete bullshit from WaPo. Day ending in y.

TM: believing MSM reporting since 2015 so you don't have to.

[Porchlight]

And TM, we know you're better than this. Consider it friendly encouragement to re-adopt your previous media skepticism.

[James D.]

TM, several posters here have met you in person and described you as a wonderful human being.

What the hell has happened to that person?

[MissMarple2]

Please listen to the Mexican President's warnings about Silicon Valley censorship when asked about the Trump ban. Following the center-right Chancellor Merkel, the leftist AMLO said they were becoming “a world media power" anointing themselves "judges of the Holy Inquisition": pic.twitter.com/5cL5vqq3Ug

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 11, 2021

Video with subtitles at the link.

[Buckeye]

But as senators and House members trapped inside the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday begged for immediate help

Am I in trouble if I confess that the thought of that puts a smile on my face?

[jimmyk]

I'm confused, wasn't Trump speaking at the Ellipse a mile and a half away while this was happening? He wasn't watching TV in the West Wing. Or was this much later?

[Porchlight]

Timelines, schmimelines.

[jimmyk]

Willowed: Relinking Greenfield's piece from the last thread, without my scintillating commentary.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2021/01/how-conservatives-get-erased-internet-daniel-greenfield/

I just deactivated my Twitter account. If things cool down, I have 30 days to reactivate. I thought I'd still be able to see Twitter links, but it seems like I can't now. Does anyone else know?

[MissMarple2]

jimmyk,

That's why I haven't deactivated and am trying to avoid tweeting or retweeting as much as possible.

I use Twitter as a monitoring site for what's going on and it is also the only way I can access THIS site, through using them as a vehicle to logging in.

I think you USED to be able to read the tweets without belonging, but they have changed it.

[jimmyk]

Answering my own 1:28 question

https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/yes-can-use-twitter-without-account-heres/

But clicking on links to Tweets posted here doesn't seem to work.

[clarice]

https://redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2021/01/12/former-prosecutor-reviews-incitement-allegations-against-trump-says-dems-have-big-problems-n308773

[Neo]

Andy Ngô @MrAndyNgo
Portland mayor @tedwheeler is offended when KATU reporter @GenevieveReaume asks the obvious: Did Portland's tolerance of months of riots help provide a new normal that political violence against government property is okay? #antifa
https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1349406209883975680

[jimmyk]

Thanks, MM, maybe I'll end up just creating a new account simply to be able to access whatever useful needles there are in the haystack of garbage.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I have never been a twitter person but have never had a problem with links to it.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-ireland-church-children-idUSKBN29I1SZ

DUBLIN (Reuters) - Irish Prime Minister Micheál Martin formally apologised on Wednesday for the state’s “profound failure” in its treatment of unmarried mothers and their babies in a network of Catholic Church-run homes from the 1920s to the 1990s.
====================
Includes forced overseas adoptions. ---MM

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

The sad things about dupes is they seem to like being duped.
The press has been quoting "one close Trump adviser" after another for five years and they invariably either don't exist or it turns out were simply making shit up.
And yet formerly sensible people think listening to or reading these same people for honest reporting makes sense and that they are reliable. Amazing.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

I deleted my twit account last week and I can sometimes yes, sometimes no see what the twit links are that y'all post here.

And I just got a 3 day FB ban for posting the gateway pundit article about Michael Yon. LOL

[Dave (in MA)]

Nose Ring Stalin workaround: https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/01/13/epic-twitter-competitor-gab-backed-up-trumps-twitter-account-and-recreated-it-on-their-platform-n1336005

[jimmyk]

Strangely, now clicking on Twitter links seems to work. At first I got to just a "Something went wrong" page.

[Old Lurker]

I never go to a Twitter Link.

I never go to a FB link.

I never send or receive Text Messages.

I never turn on my iPhone.

I unplugged my Fax machine from the phone line. Email me a PDF or forget it.

I never answer my land line. Leave me a message or leave me alone.

I don't care.

Get off my lawn, punk.

[Dave (in MA)]

ATTENTION FUCKWITS:

Trump posted a video on social media asking people to go home.

Social media deleted his video.

[Tom R]

I only sign into Twitter on my Iphone and Ipad. I don't log into it on my PC. When I read JOM on my PC and click on Twitter links I have no problem getting this to display. I just can't reply, retweet etc because I am not logged in but that is expected.

[Dave (in MA)]

Cached version of the garbage at the top of the post: https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eR8ePmSTk6IJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mob-failure/2021/01/11/36a46e2e-542e-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mob-failure/2021/01/11/36a46e2e-542e-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us">https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:eR8ePmSTk6IJ:https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-mob-failure/2021/01/11/36a46e2e-542e-11eb-a817-e5e7f8a406d6_story.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

...so they don't get hits.

[BuffyUK]

I deleted twitter a few years ago and haven't missed it. Plenty of information at blogs sites I trust. I'm still on facebook for local news but I'm happy to delete that, once I make sure I've got everyone's current email.

I am so over social media. Blogs are best. Be best.

[Dave (in MA)]

Well, that worked great.

[Dave (in MA)]

Try this,

https://bit.ly/3nJXfBI

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Some Men Just Want To Watch The World Burn--

What a preposterous headline.
Trump deescalated war after war brought by his predecessors, concluded peace deals between Israel and several ME states, presided over a declining crime rate, responded strongly [even the few honest Dems had to admit this] to wildfires and various natural disasters and went out of his way to encourage the governors and other imbeciles who were letting looters and rioters burn down their cities respond to stop the destruction and offered all the help he could to prevent it.
When city centers were actually on fire it was "mostly peaceful". Now when a few goofballs tromp around the capitol with their funny hats on it's "fiery TV coverage" even though I'm pretty sure there weren't any fires.
And of course there is not a single shred of evidence the thrust of the story is true whatsoever.

[Appalled]

This is a PSA about your accounts on Parler.

https://mashable.com/article/parler-archive-user-posts.amp

Briefly — it looks like stuff you may have thought private is not. If somebody else posted about this, apologies.

[Captain Hate]

The enemedia has been 100% disinformation since 11/3 and probably before that. What to do when you know you can't trust it. The Founders understood that.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

That a-hole Milley just warned all American forces not to participate in insurrection. These a-holes have 10 gallon cans of gasoline and are stoking the flames.

I find the idea of impeachment laughable except for the fact that the Uniparty is now all in on oppressing 75 million voters.

"We had to destroy the country to save it" is their motto.

[Captain Hate]

Don't you have some barns to burn and wells to poison, Appalled?

[MissMarple2]

From an Epoch Times reporter:

Ivan Pentchoukov
@IvanPentchoukov

TRUMP: "In light of reports of more demonstrations, I urge that there must be NO violence, NO lawbreaking and NO vandalism of any kind. That is not what I stand for, and it is not what America stands for. I call on ALL Americans to help ease tensions and calm tempers. Thank You."

2:09 PM · Jan 13, 2021
==================================
Comment to the tweet:

Baldy and The Blonde
@BaldyBlonde

Replying to
@IvanPentchoukov

I did not get the carrier pigeon with the message.
2:10 PM · Jan 13, 2021·

[rse]

Kev--

You might find this event interesting. https://kingmakersofoaklandevents.org/

Jan 30, 2021: The Lab: Media, Tech & Equity Youth Summit | Kingmakers of Oakland
Calling all BIPOC high schoolers to join the Kingmakers of Oakland for an event is designed to cultivate the next generation of civil rights leaders – offering educational opportunities on how they can leverage technology to make their voices heard. Share this opportunity with the BIPOC high schoolers in your life.

On the gop, I've been wondering if liz cheney needs to be reminded what happened to the whig party.

[Appalled]

CH:

If this is widely public info, I’m sorry. I wasn’t gloating. If not widely public — this is the only group I know who would be concerned about this.

One of the better ideas of the Supreme’s was to deduce a right to privacy out of the Bill of Rights. The great shame is that the same body thought the only possible application was birth control and abortion.

[MissMarple2]

Ifficial statement through the White House press seretary:

[Dave (in MA)]

"Said one close Trump adviser"
"other Trump confidants, many of whom spoke on the condition of anonymity"
"West Wing staffers"
"An aide "
"Several Republican members of Congress"
"officials said"
etc.

[Jim Eagle]

It’s not May yet, Matt.

[Dave (in MA)]

Some Men Just Want To Go Full Summer's Eve

[rse]

Another program coming up.

We are all living in challenging times that our past experience and training has not sufficiently prepared us for. Too often, well intentioned equity efforts do not succeed—and even produce unintended consequences. This can lead to frustration, hopelessness and cynicism. This workshop offers an introduction to our Liberatory Design approach.

Liberatory Design is an approach to addressing equity challenges and change efforts in complex systems. It is a process and practice to:

Create designs that help interrupt inequity and increase opportunity for those most impacted by oppression

Transform power by shifting the relationships between those who hold power to design and those impacted by these designs

Generate critical learning and increased agency for those involved in the design work

At the core of Liberatory Design are a set of beliefs: racism and inequity have been designed into systems and thus can be designed out of systems; designing for equity requires the meaningful participation of those impacted by inequity; and equity-driven designs require equity and complexity informed processes.

The Liberatory Design approach and card deck was originally created as part of a collaboration between the National Equity Project (Victor Cary and Tom Malarkey) and the Stanford d.school's K12 Lab (Tania Anaissie, David Clifford, and Susie Wise) in 2016. Our approach to Liberatory Design is grounded in our Leading for Equity Framework and integrates human-centered design (aka design thinking) with complex systems theory and deep equity practice.

https://www.nationalequityproject.org/training/workshops/liberatory-design-workshop-jan2021

January 22.

[Porchlight]

LOL Dave

BTW I loved this that you posted, I just want to post it again because it's hilarious.

[Melinda]

@MrAndyNgo
BLM and Antifa openly organizing riots on the platform is something that doesn’t get censored.
https://twitter.com/mrandyngo/status/1349434988601643009?s=21

He links this NYPost piece:: https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1349352160920788994?s=21

[MissMarple2]

https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/kushner-blocks-gab/

This is nothing but a rehash of something Bloomberg reported. Calls Gab and other sites "fringe groups".

Seems to me that Bloomberg is sowing distrust in the White House and between pro-Trump sites. No sources quoted.

[Dave (in MA)]

Bidenites massing at the Capitol,

BREAKING: Biden supporters have surrounded the Capitol and are yelling at the first responders protecting Congress. pic.twitter.com/0VJPoXjDKM

— @amuse (@amuse) January 13, 2021

[Dave (in MA)]

Porchlight, not my work-just stole it because it fit the topic.

[Melinda]

@Yossi_Mansharof
Another long awaited move by the Trump Administration on the eve of its departure; For a brief explanation of Astan Quds Razavi and its economic importance see @SGhasseminejad's recent piece fdd.org/analysis/2020/…

https://twitter.com/yossi_mansharof/status/1349437678174023680?s=21

Billions involved.

[Porchlight]

I don't have any problem reading tweets and I've never had an account.

In fact, strangely enough, it's easier to read them now than before the election, when I would often get a "Try again" or a "This content isn't available to you" message and would have to refresh in order to see the tweet.

[rse]

Orwellian redefinitions.

Misinformation is a big part of our current polarization because it is hard to bring the country together when each side has its own facts and attributions of responsibility. It helps that some leading social media platforms have limited or banned Trump’s posting privileges. But that will not stop the spread of misinformation as Trump likely will move to other sites that have few limits on what he can post. His followers will share falsehoods on their own sites, and misinformation will continue to divide Americans and poison our political environment.

https://www.brookings.edu/blog/techtank/2021/01/11/the-role-of-misinformation-in-trumps-insurrection/

[Jim Eagle]

Does anyone think that Antefa, BLM, ANSWER, Code Pink, The Lincoln Project, et. al. will obey Trump’s request?

[rse]

https://www.brookings.edu/events/truth-and-accountability-post-insurrection-where-does-the-country-go-from-here/ on January 19.

On January 6, following a rally where President Trump urged his supporters to “fight much harder” against “bad people” and “show strength,” a mob of rioters aiming to halt the count of Electoral College ballots that would formally seal Joe Biden’s victory violently stormed and overtook the United States Capitol. One Capitol police officer and four pro-Trump extremists lost their lives as a result.

Now, in the aftermath of the insurrection, lawmakers are exploring ways to strip the president of his authority, hold those who participated accountable, and investigate the massive security failures that jeopardized the lives of elected officials and legislative staff. House Democrats introduced an article of impeachment against President Trump in absence of Vice President Mike Pence invoking the 25th Amendment to remove Trump from power. Some lawmakers are also urging the expulsion of Republican lawmakers who participated in the efforts to overturn the election via the 14th Amendment.

On January 19, Governance Studies at Brookings will host a webinar to discuss the aftermath of the January 6 insurrection. Panelists will assess the options lawmakers are exploring to remove President Trump from office, how the insurrection affects American democracy, and what it all means for President-elect Biden’s first 100 days in office.

[Neo]

Big Tech as a woman abuser ..
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/66451f6386d916826b22e1a25eb3b43df51e4917e1710905f80caf6105547761.jpg

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

I have no idea what you're even talking about Appalled.
It looks like some commies are scraping public posts from Parler, including deleted ones which were once public. What's that got to do with privacy and why would anyone here or anywhere else care?

[Kathryn Anne]

I never liked the idea of unfriending someone or banning them.
There is something intrinsically wrong with that kind of nasty Big Brother mindset.
I continue to feel sadness more than any other emotion.
The new Congress should be working on unemployment benefits and ordering these dopey states to open up so that people can make a living again,
Instead we have today’s circus.

[Captain Hate]

Sorry if I impugned your possibly good intentions, Appalled, but I'm sure you can understand the skepticism. If you really want to play nice why don't you ditch that police state site and hang with us full time?

[Narciso]

Yes this terry gilliam character

https://thenationalpulse.com/exclusive/capitol-antagonist-climate-change/

[Narciso]

Brookingd that was party to the russian hoax, which has recieved 15 billion from qatar you know colson had the right idea so many years ago.

[Kathryn Anne]

James McGovern is on the Congressional floor and on the record bullying Jim Jordan and forcibly asking him to say five words:
The election was not stolen.
It reminded me of what Iggy and others have quoted about making someone repeat the lie even if they don’t believe it.Liz Cheney , Katgo and Upton( who may not run again ) are in for a big surprise in 2022.
They will be cremated in their re-election bids.
Kinzinger as well.
We need new leadership across the board.
Charles Payne says we keep electing the same fools because they bring home the bacon,

[Captain Hate]

I never liked the idea of unfriending someone or banning them.
There is something intrinsically wrong with that kind of nasty Big Brother mindset.

More like real life where you choose who to be friends with and who to ignore.

[Narciso]

Mcgovern who was in contact with colombian guerillas in 2008, jamie raskin the son of a soviet dupe (ips founder) how about red quard zimmerman who will be the personnel chief to captain pike

[Narciso]

Get back to me when they burn a limo on conneticut avenue plot to poison innauguration attendees

[Narciso]

See if this works

https://gab.com/alimhaider

[Narciso]

Bezos comparing tepublicans to hezbollah yes that cant go pearshaped.

[Narciso]

No general milley said january 6th was eleventy and the last 9 months, it would be fine.

[henry]

Xidenworld... via TMJ4

St Pats moved to September.

MILWAUKEE — The Shamrock Club of Wisconsin and Westown Association have decided to postpone the 54th Shamrock Club of Wisconsin St. Patrick's Day Parade.

[Narciso]

Oh.

https://computingforever.com/

[Appalled]

Ig:

Some of you may have accounts there and deleted posts there. Seems like if you deleted the stupid stuff you did, you should have a right to keep them deleted.

By the way, IA is probably run by anarchists rather than communists.

CH:

By the time I left, I was stirring up a fuss every time I posted. I don’t think my thoughts over the past months would be appreciated here. I don’t mind a good debate, but it’s no joy responding to ten fifteen angry people twice a day. I am going to cut out again. Maybe I will take a look in after a few months, when passions might have cooled.

[henry]

@WSJ

New York City is “immediately taking steps to terminate all Trump Organization contracts,” including agreements to operate two ice-skating rinks and a carousel in Central Park, Mayor Bill de Blasio said

[Kathryn Anne]

Henry:
Our Cleveland St Patrick’s Day Committee just cancelled our parade as well.
The Trump organization will sue DiBlasio for his inability to cut ties with their company.

[Neo]

Senate won't reconvene until Jan 19

[Neo]

There is no impeachment for private citizens.
Wouldn't that a "bill of attainder" Article I. Section IX, Clause III ?

[henry]

Still allowing mandatory vaccinations for employees. Very fascist.

https://empowerwisconsin.org/evers-says-hell-sign-senates-amended-covid-relief-bill/

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Misinformation is a big part of our current polarization because it is hard to bring the country together when each side has its own facts and attributions of responsibility.--

Orwell would be impressed.
It sounds like a reasonable, conciliatory gesture to find common ground.
What it turns out to be is each side has its own facts and one is true and the other false and the false one must be silenced and destroyed and prosecuted.

I'm sorry but I can't help laughing at the arrogance of the stupidest among us going down the same road that has been travelled a million times before with the same result and yet these geniuses think this time it will be different.
Even someone like TM and Appalled traipse down the same road albeit hanging back a bit.
Where do these geniuses think this criminalization of counter viewpoints will end other than violence?
My milieu is predominately meek, exceedingly almost irritatingly law abiding citizens and upstanding upright straight arrows and goody two shoes.
The anger and frustration and the rage that is being stoked in these ordinary calm cool and collected straight arrows is palpable and is spread across scores of millions of much less meek and much less reticent citizens.
It boggles the mind how blind a burgeoning zeitgeist can make ordinary people.
And it is encapsulated perfectly in Appalled's question about whether we were aware of how we looked to someone outside looking in. The many unjustified and unexamined assumptions in that question demonstrate not only the blindness that a stridently coercive culture produces in those coerced by it [often subconsciously] but it documents why they are so shocked when those people they are patronizingly trying to advise not to trust their lying eyes eventually revolt when the pressure and coercion become more than they will tolerate.
If we take the time to observe just a bit in what's going on around us, those many questions I have always wondered about regarding how people historically couldn't see what was happening or about to happen that is so obvious to some at the time and everyone afterwards are being answered.
In a time in which this type of societal pressure and irrationality is large and growing it seems the only people who really continue to see clearly are the perpetrators of the pressure and the targets of it. Everyone else is just a manipulated dupe because the manipulators know how to induce a sheep like stupor in the persuadables.

It is eerily similar to the conflict I had with my brother and family.
He knew exactly what he was doing and what was going on as he was instigating it. My wife and I did as well because we were the targets of it. But those who carried my brother's water not only thought they were doing the right thing they had no clue they had been manipulated into doing truly evil things. Like Appalled they wondered if my wife and I understood just how bad we looked, even though objectively we were doing absolutely nothing wrong but in fact were being attacked without cause by the very people who assumed their own righteousness and our well deserved punishment.

The main difference is in a society wide phenomenon there is no outside third party to observe objectively. With my family craziness there were objective third parties to independently confirm that my family was indeed crazy. But with a whole culture swept up in the craziness there are three groups but none are truly outside the conflict; the manipulators, the targets and those who are manipulated. Anyone who refuses to be manipulated becomes a target so there is no truly neutral third party for a reality check.
The nature of that kind of conflict still assures us that the clearest minded observers will still be the attackers and the targets but it behooves the targets to recheck themselves frequently and if possible ignore or jettison those targets who were themselves not exactly all there before things began.
Weirdos are equal opportunity attachments to every group.

[MissMarple2]

Maryrose,

I only block people on Twitter who continually harass me with vile insults. I don't want those in the replies on my time line - I am talking about people who accuse me of vulgar sexual activity with the President and threats of violence to me or my family.

Otherwise, if it's people like Bill Kristol, I simply don't follow them and igore them if they show up in a retweet.

[henry]

Clean up ongoing.

@WSJ

Israeli airstrikes on Iran-backed militias in Syria killed dozens of people, among them 40 members of forces allied with Assad, according to independent war monitors

[Neo]

I would say the CDC needs to urgently figure out what is happening on Capitol Hill. There IS some sort of infectious brain eating pathogen spreading around. But I think many of the professionals there have it too, so it could be tough for them to figure out the problem.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--By the way, IA is probably run by anarchists rather than communists.--

There is no longer any more functional difference between the two than there was between Stalinists and Trotskyites.

--Seems like if you deleted the stupid stuff you did, you should have a right to keep them deleted.--

Ideally, but I imagine publishing it publicly in the first place waives whatever expectation of privacy one might have had, unless it was published mistakenly and not something you just reconsidered.

[Jim Eagle]

There where more “pussy hats” at Trumps inauguration than all of Biden’s full crowd.

[Narciso]

Its like herbery matthews never left

https://babalublog.com/2021/01/13/surprise-new-yorrk-times-bemoans-classification-of-cuba-as-terror-sponsoring-state-cries-out-to-biden-for-immediate-reversal/

[Old Lurker]

Oh good grief.

There is nothing wrong with blocking or killfiling a poster you just do not care to bother with. Ditto the right to not answer the phone if you don't know the caller ID (or even if you do but care not to speak with the caller). Or read the stories in a paper that interest you and skip the others.

Besides it is "secret" so you are not even offending anybody or picking a fight.

[Narciso]

Brainslugs are starving

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/13/media-are-accusing-a-republican-lawmaker-of-insurrection-for-quoting-nancy-pelosi/

[MJW]

Wouldn't that a "bill of attainder" Article I. Section IX, Clause III ?

A rather interesting point. It would seem somewhat parallel to United States v. Lovett.

(from Wikipedia)

In United States v. Lovett, 328 U.S. 303 (1946), the Court confronted a federal law that named three people as subversive and excluded them from federal employment. Previously, the Court had held that lack of judicial trial and the narrow way in which the law rationally achieved its goals were the only tests of a bill of attainder. But the Lovett Court said that a bill of attainder 1) specifically identified the people to be punished; 2) imposed punishment; and 3) did so without benefit of judicial trial. As all three prongs of the bill of attainder test were met in Lovett, the court held that a congressional statute that bars particular individuals from government employment qualifies as punishment prohibited by the bill of attainder clause.

[MissMarple2]

For those in the Rockies and the Great Plains, from the Weather Channel via Twitter:

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Ig, in my world they call it sheep, predators and sheepdogs. Such is life.

The loss of objective news and truths is the greatest damage we can imagine to a civil society.

[Old Lurker]

Ig, obviously you are free to play with Appalled all you like.

But all the more reason to ID the quote you are responding too so an Iggy Fan can SOB so as to not get sucked into a place one might prefer to avoid.

Who are your 3:24 and 3:31 responding to, for example?

[Neo]

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) blasted what he called the double standard of his Democrat colleagues on the House floor on Wednesday, reminding Rep. Jim McGovern (D-MA) that he stood as the "first objector" to the results during the same process in 2017.

"In his opening remarks, the Democrat chair of the Rules Committee said that Republicans last week voted to overturn the results of an election," Jordan began.

"Guess who the first objector was on January 6, 2017? First objector. The Democrat chair of the Rules Committee. And guess which state he objected to? Alabama. The very first state called," Jordan said, noting Trump won the state by a massive margin.

[Narciso]

Yes i remember that line from american sniper where kyles father recited it.

[Narciso]

The post hired the son in law of cuban spymaster manuel pineiro thats kind of awkward

[Pinandpuller]

So this was Trump’s Benghazi?

I think I’m OK with the flag being at half staff from here on out.

[Captain Hate]

Killfile doesn't work on iPads right?

[Dave (in MA)]

Half staff and upside down.

[Old Lurker]

Right Cap'n.

Sadly.

[Neo]

In a precedential opinion, the Third Circuit ruled yesterday that it is a federal crime to open a supervised injection site or “consumption room” for illegal drug use. Local nonprofit Safehouse planned to open the nation’s first such consumption room in the City of Philadelphia, where individuals would be invited to inject heroin and use other drugs under supervision.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/appellate-court-agrees-government-supervised-injection-sites-are-illegal-under-federal-law

[Kathryn Anne]

Matt:
Totally agree.
I have not watched regular channel news for years.
Now with Fox going haywire,
I shift between Newsmax or OAN. With occasional Hannity or Ingraham.
What has happened this election cycle is a tragedy but not the end of the world.
We will survive this and once again President Trump has exposed the true character and motives of the Dems and the Repubs.

[Dave (in MA)]

The Ayatollah of Iran can Tweet. Our President can not. Shame on you all.

— Robert J. O'Neill (@mchooyah) January 13, 2021

[henry]

Such patient examination of facts... nothing like a railroad run by kangaroos.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-live-house-votes-impeachment-after-debate

[MissMarple2]

Freedom Recon
@FreedomRecon

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“We’re gonna need the 73 million people who are angry that we’ve been calling them Nazis for 4 years to tone down their rhetoric.”

[Old Lurker]

MM, not just calling us Nazis for four years, they denied us a fully functioning President whom we elected by a landslide in 2016 to MAGA. And shamed us for electing him.