What Matt Wants, Matt Gaetz?!?

Oh, great, a tawdry sex scandal. What happened to Make Scandals Great Again?

Investigators believe Joel Greenberg, the former tax collector in Seminole County, Fla., who was indicted last year on a federal sex trafficking charge and other crimes, initially met the women through websites that connect people who go on dates in exchange for gifts, fine dining, travel and allowances, according to three people with knowledge of the encounters. Mr. Greenberg introduced the women to Mr. Gaetz, who also had sex with them, the people said.

...

Mr. Gaetz denied ever paying a woman for sex.

Some of the possible charges seem like a stretch:

It is not illegal to provide adults with free hotel stays, meals and other gifts, but if prosecutors think they can prove that the payments to the women were for sex, they could accuse Mr. Gaetz of trafficking the women under “force, fraud or coercion.” For example, prosecutors have filed trafficking charges against people suspected of providing drugs in exchange for sex because feeding another person’s drug habit could be seen as a form of coercion.

So offering gifts is fine but offering cash is coercive? OK, go with that.

The joker in the deck is this:

The Justice Department inquiry is also examining whether Mr. Gaetz had sex with a 17-year-old girl and whether she received anything of material value, according to four people familiar with the investigation. The sex trafficking count against Mr. Greenberg involved the same girl, according to two people briefed on the investigation.

She's a minor, so Gaetz needs the Epstein Exception here.

I wonder what a Florida jury would make of all this. I have a suspicion that a decent portion of the Florida service economy relies on an equilibrium between fiscally appealing men and physically appealing women. Maybe I'm thinking of Vegas.

Comments

[Narciso]

Like malley ran the initial bavk channels to the revolutionary guard high profile enoughthey dont need to be denied

[lurkersusie]

Biden’s new voters

(4) Nick Short 🇺🇸 on Twitter: "Border agents arrested more than 170,000 migrants crossing the southern border illegally in March, marking a 15-year high in monthly border crossings. Around 99,000 of those arrested in March were single adults. https:/...

https://twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1378091668272996353

[Davod]

"To Understand Why Racism Isn't the Problem, Look to South Africa's Pilanesberg Park"

[The amazing story of who was killing the rinos in Pilanesberg]

https://townhall.com/columnists/willalexander/2021/04/02/racism-is-not-the-problem-n2587262

[Melinda]

Room down the hall, MM.

[Dave (in MA)]

If Gaetz was banging jailbait, when does he get his standing ovation?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerry_Studds#Career_in_the_United_States_Congress

[Dave (in MA)]

Democrat Eephus
https://nesn.com/2021/04/boston-mayor-kim-janey-thrilled-to-throw-first-pitch-for-red-sox-on-opening-day/

[Tim Burns]

Wow, in all the insane right wing comments here, two stand out. From Tom’s post, news reports TODAY, highlight the fact the Matt Gaetz used the Cash App and Apple Pay to send money to the [multiple] ladies he and his buddy were paying for sex.

Secondly, although it would funny for sbwaters to explain what HE likes from the Georgia bill, MLB Commissioner could try to patiently explain the thing he does not like was the players not playing the All-Star game, because GA’s gerrymandered GOP legislature is trying to steal the next election by usurping county election boards, taking away early voting, and keeping Democrats from voting. The MLB Commissioner cares as much about Democrats voting in Georgia as much you do, sbwaters, i.e., not at all. He cares about TV contracts.

[Dave (in MA)]

One party thinks minorities are too stupid to get IDs.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Wow, in all the insane right wing comments here, two stand out. --

How is;
"From Tom’s post, news reports TODAY, highlight the fact the Matt Gaetz used the Cash App and Apple Pay to send money to the [multiple] ladies he and his buddy were paying for sex."?

...an insane right wing comment?
Not a promising start, Tim.

--...GA’s gerrymandered GOP legislature is trying to steal the next election by usurping county election boards...--

The Constitution explicitly gives State legislatures the power to set and regulate elections so it is impossible for them to "usurp" an inferior legal or administrative body.

...taking away early voting...

Unfortunately it does not take away pernicious early voting but codifies it via statute.

--...keeping Democrats from voting...--

It only keeps Democrats from voting illegally. I have faith in your fellow Dems that they can in fact get an ID card and sign their own name. Personally I don't think anyone of any party who can't shouldn't be voting anyway. Are Democrats stupider than Reps? That seems to be the reasonable conclusion Dem concerns over these modest reforms elicits. I believe even a Dem can manage to supply an ID since they do so for so many other things in their lives already.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--Personally I don't think anyone of any party who can't shouldn't be voting anyway.--

Shouldn't should be should.

[Pinandpuller]

Well it really depends on whether or not Joe and Nancy count as clergy:

“[i]f the liberties of the American people are ever destroyed, they will fall by the hands of the Catholic clergy.”—Marquis de Lafayette

[anonamom]

Davod
Am I the only person who thinks Getz is being set up?

Nope

Time to secede.

Way PAST time.
(Only argument I've read that might dissuade me is ChiComs would roll right in and take over Blue land. Likely would have it handed over. And then of course, they'd want ours too.)

[anonamom]

Jacqui Heinrich
@JacquiHeinrich
·
18h
NEW: Luke Ball, Comms director for Matt Gaetz, has resigned
@kellyfphares
confirms. Ball's resignation follows reports that Gaetz is under federal investigation for possible sex trafficking crimes. Gaetz has denied the allegations, claiming he is the victim of an extortion plot.

[Jane]

Sure - start the day with this:

https://nypost.com/2021/04/02/baby-boy-born-with-three-penises-makes-history/

[Jane]

Amom,

It would be interesting trying to split up the money. I’m sure chicoms would help.

[anonamom]

Hey, attorneys--I've been wondering if the judge may have denied Chauvin's motion for change of venue (if ever one should have been granted to somewhere where the jury wouldn't rationally be in fear for their lives were they to find him not guilty!)
in order to allow an appeals court to automatically grant him a retrial when he's found guilty to appease the mob.

[anonamom]

Here it is:

https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2021/04/the-week-in-pictures-everbiden-edition.php

[Old Lurker]

A-mom...your 8:03 (while possibly true) rises to TomR levels of magical strategery fantasy thinking.

[Old Lurker]

...in other words, it is safer to assume that everything you see these days is exactly as bad as it appears to be if not hold-my-beer worse.

[MissMarple2]

Washington Examiner
@dcexaminer
·
10h
.@SecBlinken lifts sanctions on the International Criminal Court prosecutor targeting US troops for alleged war crimes.

[anonamom]

As I said elsewhere yesterday, I've not been following the theater in Minneapolis very closely, as there is not a bit of doubt in my mind that Floyd killed himself with an OD of fentanyl, a massive amount of which HE stuck up his butt, not officer Chauvin.
No damage to his tracheal structures, no signs of asphyxiation, and there are four arteries that supply brain blood flow, not just the one carotid that may have been under Chauvin's knee--as he used a recommended method of restraint to keep Floyd, himself, and his fellow officers safe.

The medical examiner calling this a homicide is a massive stretch IMHO.
Charging Chauvin with murder is an atrocity.

The bits that filtered through to me so far about the judge make him seem like a sensible guy, other than his failure to move the trial.

I may have to read some Powerline or Legal Insurrection to see if my take on judge is off.

[rse]

a'mom--

https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/the-murders-of-the-alday-family-28a852cca405 is the seminal change of venue case as far as I know. It was still being argued when I was in law school and my crim law prof was the lead counsel. Basically there were people on the jury who had known the deceased and the small town wanted to try the case there because it was seen as just retribution for the horrors involved.

Even though there was no real dispute as to guilt the courts eventually forced a retrial elsewhere.

Chauvin's case has a quite good dispute as to legal guilt, unlike the alday murders, but it is still clear that the floyd 'murder' narrative also has a geographical right to vengeance component. That is precisely what the alday case said couldn't be the reason not to move a notorious case.

The fact that a jury member could legitimately fear for their life or property if a verdict fails to fit the existing narrative strikes me as an additional reason for a change in venue, not a freestanding issue alone.

[rse]

I check the wrap-up each day here. https://legalinsurrection.com/2021/04/chauvin-trial-day-5-wrap-up-poorly-informed-witnesses-provide-state-with-poorly-informed-opinions/

[MissMarple2]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/noah-green-farrakhan-nation-of-islam-democrats-waters-clyburn-davis

Headline:
Prominent Democrats' Farrakhan ties resurface after Capitol attacker revealed as Nation of Islam follower

Not listed is MY representative, Andre Carson, who is in fact a MEMBER of the Nation of Islam and a friend of Farrakhan's.

He "inherited" the seat after his mother, the former Representative Julia Carson, died.

[anonamom]

rse--thanks.
I knew it's out there--Powerline too--just elected to not follow too closely on my own time.
Guess I'll have to, if JOM/JOM2 reporting is not meeting my needs. ;-)

[GUS]

Easter. Muzzzzzlims murdering.

Hmmmmmmm. They'd never kill in Germany at Christmas time.

[MissMarple2]

Sneaky little gatito...😂😂😂 pic.twitter.com/4C1qXN136a

— ilDonaldoTrumpo (@ilDonaldoTrumpo) April 3, 2021

Short meme video at link. (By the way, that's a REAL pillow which was seen in the background of some lefty's interview yesterday.)

[GUS]

Tim Burns. CUCK.

[anonamom]

Since I am asking questions of attorneys this morning--
why hasn't any law prof stepped up to sue over these edicts prohibiting evictions?
That seems a major breach of contract law.

oh--at ten eastern, Bannon is hosting a special Holy Saturday edition of
pandemic.warroom.org
on Transhumanism--our tech overlords' "religion" some say.

pandemic.warroom.org

Like MM, I am generally impressed with the level of factual information and the interviews and commentary on this show.
I can listen to the pods (which are posted at noon) at 1.5 time and still make out almost everything said, except the female Chinese PhD defector he has on from time to time.

Great accompaniment for major shrub pruning.

[Melinda]

Stylistic arguments of late night “Tim” seem quite familiar, Ig.

Just my quick take.

[sbwaters]

Ig, thank you for saving me the trouble.

Such people embarrass themselves, don’t know it, and don’t care.

[Narciso]

Tim 'conway' seems to have tripped over his own shoes dont you hafe it when that happens

[MissMarple2]

anonamom,

Thanks for the reminder about that special. I am going to tune in because after I read about "humanized mice" yesterday, I felt like perhaps this is something we should pay attention to.

By the way, did you see the Fauci pillow?

[Jane]

Amom,

I thought the Judge was horrid at the start of the case, but a lot of people like him. I’m reading (LI) not watching, so have no opinion recently. The whole thing is a travesty IMO, and I feel terrible for Chauvin and his family.

[Narciso]

Oh

https://asiatimes.com/2021/04/biden-abandons-friend-in-need-in-saudi-arabia/

[Narciso]

Yikes

https://www.newyorker.com/books/under-review/the-politics-of-bad-sex

[Rocco]

Good morning,

Regarding Chauvin's knee on Floyd's neck, well, I gotta agree with this detective, Zimmerman.

Nelson challenged the detective’s claim never to have been trained to put a knee to a suspect’s neck, but Zimmerman said the training was to place the knee on a person’s shoulder and only while handcuffing them.

I've restrained a lot of violent cons and have never been trained to or used a knee once the con was cuffed. I still maintain there was no need for the knee after he was cuffed.

And I also agree that they should have either stood him up or rolled him onto his side to help him breathe.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/detective-says-chauvin-knee-on-neck-a-totally-unnecessary-use-of-deadly-force/ar-BB1ffmT8

[Narciso]

How often did you deal with someome who consumed 4 times the legal limit of fwntanyl. I think under the circumstances they were doing the best they could.

[Narciso]

So yesterday was not a terrorist attack according to the metropolitan police, just drop the anvil on these idiots.

[Rocco]

Narc, that I couldn't tell you but I do know there are lots of drugs in the can. The mail room would tear the stamps off envelopes because blotter acid would be found behind them. Polaroid pictures of family members would be taken apart, laced with heroine and glued back together. But the most common way is to stick the drugs in your butt, called "the safe" and just show up for court when you know you're being sentenced.

I think Chauvin's an idiot!

[clarice]

VDH:https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/04/01/10-radical-new-rules-that-are-changing-america/

[MissMarple2]

First half hour is interview with Andrew Torba, CEO of Gab.

Oligarchs of Silicon Valley is obsessed with achieving eternal life here on earth with human/chip interface. If you are on Facebook, you are their lab rat.

They are working on actually reading your mind through your phone, not just tracking your data.

[MissMarple2]

Ack! That should be "are obsessed."

[MissMarple2]

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/03/trump-says-to-boycott-mlb-and-all-of-the-woke-companies-not-supporting-election-security/

[Narciso]

Everything that ever worked they have to destroy or defame,

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--And I also agree that they should have either stood him up or rolled him onto his side to help him breathe.--

Anonomom can correct me but the problem was not that some external force was causing his sensation of being unable to breathe. Internally he was going into cardiopulmonary arrest. They could have stood him up and had him jump on one leg and he still would have eventually ended up back on the ground as his heart gave out from the OD and he died.

--I think Chauvin's an idiot!--

Possibly, but he's not on trial for being an idiot. He's on trial for ending Floyd's life which it seems highly unlikely he contributed to.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Seems to me the defense can end this trial with one question of the medical examiner;

Given Floyd's "severe" [the coroner's own word] preexisting cardiac disease and the amount of drugs in his system, isn't it likely that Floyd would have died whether Chauvin was even on the scene or not?

[Jane]

Chilling, Clarice. (VDH). And confirmation of what we know.

[Jim Eagle]

What I like about the Chauvin trial is watching one guy, Nelson, doing battle of legal intellect, against a substantial prosecutorial resource.

IANAL but Nelson seems to be holding his own and in some cases making his points more than the other side.

David and Goliath at the bar.

[MissMarple2]

https://thefederalist.com/2021/04/03/this-holy-saturday-remember-the-disciples-whose-fear-and-weakness-is-our-own/

This is a beautiful Easter essay by Christopher Bedford of The Federalist.

[clarice]

If they're monitoring my phone they'll get nothing but messages to and from my mother's nursing home. I hate it. (Oh, yeah,also calls to Uber from airports and such.)

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Wells Turning and Finishings, (a Maine company) made the wooden eggs for the 2021 White House Easter Egg Hunt. The 2021 eggs feature a bunny wearing a mask and the signatures of Biden and Dr. Jill.
Wait! There's more. The golden egg is unique with an image of the Biden's German Shepards, Champ and Major. *eyeroll*

[Narciso]

They want to see if you imbibe the pablum, like the other drones

[Narciso]

Like the debate over licquor stores in prince georges county?

[Jane]

https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2021/04/02/witnesses-china-imprisoning-christians-underground-brainwashing-torture-centers/

Don’t tell Xiden. He’ll import it.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Interesting thing I've been thinking about [to me anyway].
Our ostensibly liberal and definitely idiotic pals used to talk about the "convergence" of Western liberal democracies and the Soviet style state. That of course was complete balderdash and reached its peak shortly before the Soviet Union imploded, with Reagan's, Thatcher's and John Paul's helping hands, all over their dumbass theories. The Soviets evolved essentially not at all in the direction of freedom.
But with the left in the West gaining complete institutional control and Deng's perceptive revelation that a semblance of economic freedom could be granted without losing totalitarian control, we are now seeing a form of convergence.
The mutant hybrid these creeps have come up with is in the East a reaction to the utter failures of Marxism to produce the means to dominate the world and in the West a reaction to the unfettered free market's successes in thwarting Marxism.
And so the two camps have fallen back on this globalist trope which is slowly resolving to be nothing more than Mussolini's fascism with a thin veneer of internationalism applied to assuage the international socialists and other imbecilic utopians. What it really amounts to is a less comical and less benign version of the planet the Star Trek crew happened upon in which all of society was modeled after Chicago mafia gangs of the 20s.
Instead of oligarchs and a ruling class you had bosses, but just like our would be rulers they all just wanted a piece of the action.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--The golden egg is unique with an image of the Biden's German Shepards, Champ and Major. --

Isn't that the egg they found on the Diplomatic Room's rug?

[Marlene]

Iggy, I had the same thought! A golden dog poop egg!

[Marlene]

*shepherd* Don't tell my mother I can't spell shepherd. Ha. I grew up with German Shepherds in the house.

[Narciso]

Trek offered a poupareee of dystopia

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Return_of_the_Archons_(episode)

[Narciso]

Blame on autocucumber i do.

[Narciso]

I was watching one of the sony channels that dub films into soanish, among their offerings of underworld films because werewolves and vampire fit in lent, they had the risen film About a tribune at the resurrection

[Narciso]

And one about the last days of st. Paul, having been visited by caviezels luke.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

narc, in Major's case, it's a pooparee.

[MissMarple2]

https://spectator.org/biden-infrastructure-plan/

A few more details on Biden's bogus infrastructure plan.

[MissMarple2]

Narciso,

A bunch of us used to meet every Thursday night on the Bloomington campus to watch Star Trek. We knew a couple who lived in married student housing and had a TV!

Great fun, and I remember that episode. It aired right before I left for Germany.

[GUS]

Sex with minors and BABY MAMA'S. Where does this happen all the time? I think we all know. Please don't kid yourself, or I'll move your feckin' ALL STAR GAME to COMPTON.

[Another Bob]

"I think Chauvin's an idiot!"

Ig already said it, but being an idiot != being a murderer.

Just to remind people of Minneapolis standards, Ofc. Mohammed Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter, acquitted of intentional second-degree murder,very likely lied at his trial, and sentenced to 12.5 years in prison of which he'll probably not see half.

He shot an unarmed woman, who had committed no crime, for approaching his police car.

[Another Bob]

Maybe a repost, but WHO now says the COVID PCR test with any amplification cycle count above 35 is entirely invalid. Most (all?) COVID PCR tests have been done at 40 cycles.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/nucleic-acid-testing-technologies-use-polymerase-chain-reaction-pcr-detection-sars-cov-2/5739959

It's all bullshit.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

“It's all bullshit.”

Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner!

[GUS]

How come the BRAINIACS who call CHAUVIN an idiot, have not called SAINT GEORGE OF Fentanylville an idiot???

[henry]

You now need government papers to travel between islands in Hawaii.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/hawaii-unveils-covid-passports-inter-island-travel

My grandfather never did that when he was military commander in the Hawaii Territory during wartime.

[henry]

Mask Re-education in Florida.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/students-florida-high-school-warned-they-will-be-re-educated-if-caught-not-wearing-mask

Can we just agree public schools are a failed experiment?

[sbwaters]

FedEx found my "overnight" package from Lulu and will deliver it to Walgreens by the end of the day so I can pick it up tomorrow.

It is a proof of an epilogue to "Individuals, Journalism, and Society" written in the form of a screenplay script. When I am happy with it I’ll release it as a 32-page script-like "magazine" to bookstores and Amazon.

I may be just one person, but I feel obliged to push back on the irrational attempt to dominate individuals, destroying America in an attempt to gain power — an attempt destined to fail but that will squander people and wealth along the way.

[James D.]

Can we just agree public schools are a failed experiment?

If the purpose of public schools was to produce functional, self-reliant, capable adults who can support themselves and can manage their own lives, yea, it’s been a massive failure.

But it seems clear that hasn’t been the purpose for decades. And if, as it appears, the actual purpose of public schools is to produce an ignorant, innumerate, emotion-driven, easily manipulated and dependent populace, it’s been wildly successful.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Public education delenda est.

[Davod]

There are many great pictures in this week's WIP. This one hit the spot.

https://i1.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2021/04/Screen-Shot-2021-04-01-at-10.03.17-AM.png?resize=768%2C547&ssl=1

[GUS]

Sbw, it's been clear to me what's going on for 5 years. They have reached FULL COMMIE SPEED.

[Davod]

Gus. Agreed.

[rse]

https://catallaxyfiles.com/2021/04/04/police-terrorists-violate-sanctuary-and-threaten-congregation/ yesterday in London at a Catholic Good Friday service.

[Manuel Transmission]

Clarice,

If you’re around, I tried to send a note to your bigpond addy and it bounced. Can you send me a note with your current one?

[Pinandpuller]

Imagine thinking it’s 1950 and a politician from either party can be extorted much less shamed by a live boy or a dead girl, or vice versa.

*Ha_Mossad has entered the chat

[Jim Eagle]

We know that church, rse. Ours was Farm Street Church in Kensington. Jesuit priests. Would not go wel, since the American embassy personnel including the jarjeads came to mass here,l to piss them off. Who said Nazism is kaput?

[clarice]

https://www.westernjournal.com/part-bidens-infrastructure-plan-literally-destroy-highways-already-built/
My capacity for crazy is past the breaking point.
Coming , MT

[Narciso]

Geico cavemen, chime in clarice.

[MissMarple2]

From Twitter:

"Is today the final countdown?

4/3/21..."

Just thought I would contribute to the crazy.

[Narciso]

Not so much pin

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/files-expose-kgb-spies-in-israel-s-top-political-and-military-echelon-1.5453511

[henry]

@WSJ

Jordanian authorities arrested several senior officials and at least one royal family member, the country’s state-run news agency reported, a sign of political turmoil in a key U.S. ally

[Narciso]

Shirley

https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1378365417434013697

[MissMarple2]

AccuWeather
@accuweather
·
1h
Smoke and ash continued to rise from Mount Etna, in Sicily, Italy, on Thursday after the volcano erupted.

[MissMarple2]

Narciso,

Someone should ask Dan McLaughlin how much doings he had with the Lincoln Project.

[MissMarple2]

Jay Sekulow
@JaySekulow

An email from Biden WH Press Sec. Jen Psaki has been uncovered. Its contents have been heavily redacted pertaining to the Obama-Biden Iran dealings. A judge ordered the Deep State to produce this email to the court for review. We’ll be back in court soon.

[MissMarple2]

Well, here's another strange story:

The Associated Press
@AP
·
1h
Mummies on the move: Egypt held a gala parade celebrating the transport of 18 pharaohs and four other royals' earthly remains from central Cairo to their new resting place in a massive new museum further south in the capital.

https://apnews.com/article/egypt-cairo-museums-travel-parades-d909b76966fa7bba6a79f4660bd223ca?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP&utm_campaign=SocialFlow

[MissMarple2]

Well, I see Keith Olbermann thinks the Masters Golf Tournament was named to honor slave masters and should therefor be banned.

Obviously, clinically insane.

[Jim Eagle]

Unlike the Chinese Open named for Olberman's master. The guy is card carrying member of the intellectual deficient party called ESPN.

[MissMarple2]

Chuck Ross
@ChuckRossDC
· 2h

China’s TENCENT refuses to air some NBA games because Daryl Morey tweeted support for Hong Kong protesters 2 years ago.

MLB expanded a licensing deal with TENCENT on Wednesday, two days before moving the All-Star game. https://dailycaller.com/2021/04/03/mlb

[Narciso]

Hes dumber than dirt

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Somebody ought to feed the dumbass Dan McLaughlin his crank.

[Jim Eagle]

When you lose your US audience due to political correctness you always depend on the Chinese who would never watch you!

[MissMarple2]

Jim Eagle,

The Chinese don't give a hoot about American sports, except for crushing Americans in the Olympics. They are buying influence with pro sports to push their propaganda, and with college sports through donations to research projects and cash-paying Chinese students.