Saturday Open Thread

Away we go.

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[henry]

This calls for a Saturday open beer.

Which I raise to the speedy return of good health for Miss M and CH.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Is CH ill? Prayers for both of them.

[anonamom]

McCaffrey "who talks like this?" did he forget the General Betrayus campaign? I'm not on twitter, you may want to remind him.

Don't worry clarice--McCaffery's old Tweets, where he talks just like that about DJT, have already been tweeted back at him.

Just another hypocrite.

[anonamom]

CH had an aortic valve replacement last week.

[clarice]

Anon, some people seem to have no memory of what they said or did just a year or so ago, do they? and I suppose they forget the iT never forgets.

[Jane]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/06/unmarked-van-highly-armed-officers-arrive-trump-rally-ohio-hours-event-video/

Unmarked vehicle with armed officers arrive at the Ohio Trump rally. This can’t be good.

[henry]

Jane, is RSBN covering the rally?

[sbwaters]

Anonamom, not asking for diagnosis but, at best, pointers to any literature you might recall.

Have you ever run into a circumstance where the patient had the hemochromatosis gene and has these kinds of problems?

A year ago my friend had a rare fungal pneumonia. Over 100 blood draws - 60 bags of IV antibiotic. A month earlier they diagnosed igG4 which basically attacks all major organs as if they were a disease. They treated it with Retuxan - 2 7 hour IV treatment which worked. But also minimized the patient’s antibody strength. [He apparently took a breath of fresh air and breathed in some dirt containing a fungus. 5 days later was admitted to the hospital]

As a result, my friend’s the lungs developed fibrosis requiring O2. Oximeter levels fluctuate.

Spent two weeks at a hospital at Duke. Scope shows a fine heart with no afib. Lung transplant not a sound option. Doctors are flummoxed.

Recently, oxygen Level is 98% but can barely breathe even on 4 liters of oxygen. No infection or clots.

I wonder if, besides fibrosis, there is a correlation between the O2/CO2 carrying capacity because of hemochromatosis. In other words, could the major problem not have been with the lungs.

Just curious, no panic. As he says he has crossed almost everything off his bucket list, and he still has a sense of humor:

"Wife asked 4 times last two days if we need to go to the ER. “Over my dead body” I told her" as in his email he linked to this image: image

[Narciso]

Apparently jane

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-l561c_BR-w

[Narciso]

Well you know what i mean.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Michael Smith
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Businesses, especially those at the top of the food chain, invest millions in research and some, if not most, of the multinationals have intelligence gathering operations that rival anything the CIA or FBI (or even the USPS) has. Lobbyists are paid to influence government policy, but they also gather information from the elected officials, appointees, and the bureaucracy. Business analysts pore over mountains of consumer data to divine trends, consumer happiness and anticipated future needs.

But one major indicator available to the general public that might tell us where the future might be headed (or at least where the major corporations think it will go) is in where major corporations are placing their bets – where they are investing.

If you are paying attention, you do not need an army of analysts or a divining rod to find water here.

Meat prices at the grocery store are going up - and yet the price on the hoof is not. As a matter of fact, many cattle producers are caught in a squeeze and losing money on a per head basis. I saw a report a few weeks ago that noted the retail businesses have a profit margin of about $30 per head of cattle while the meat processor’s margin is around $1000 per head. The rancher’s margin? Between $10 a head and loss of $30, depending on the timing of the sale.

How does that work? The answer is that it does not.

The meat processing industry is controlled by four companies, Tyson, Cargill, JBS and National Beef, that process 80% of all slaughtered animals and because access to processing is so limited, you either sell to them or one of their agents or you do not sell at all. Why would the meat processors be putting so much pressure on the producers of protein on the hoof?

Well, at present, three of the four major processors have gone woke, adopting the ESG methods of corporate control. Environmental, Social, and Corporate Governance data refers to metrics related to intangible assets within the enterprise, roughly equivalent to China’s Social Credit System (that ranks citizens and punishes them with throttled internet speeds and flight bans if the Communist Party deems them untrustworthy).

And a good ESG score means you must believe in anthropogenic climate change. The “climate scientists” at the UN have determined that livestock production, especially raising cattle, generates more global warming greenhouse gases, as measured in CO2 equivalent than transportation. In 2006, senior UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) official Henning Steinfeld said, “Livestock are one of the most significant contributors to today’s most serious environmental problems. Urgent action is required to remedy the situation.”

Cow farts are killing us.

Why would meat processors be destroying their own businesses?

They really are not. They will still process cattle, but the meat will be far more expensive, a luxury for most – but where these companies are putting their investments is telling – fake meat. Each of these companies are pouring millions into research and development of plant-based protein meat substitutes.

Plant-based? Is it any wonder why Bill Gates is the largest private owner of farm land in the United States?

Several large investment firms are buying up single family homes. BlackRock, the largest asset management firm on the planet with over $9 trillion in assets, and other money institutions buying up single-family homes as quickly as they can at rates higher than the average homebuyer is willing to pay. Of course, taking homes off the market by overpaying for them, drives overall home prices up.

Why? Well first, these investment firms can borrow money at historically low rates, even lower than any individual home buyer, but the goal is more insidious - BlackRock and others are causing a shift from home ownership to renting (BlackRock is also the third largest institutional shareholder in the "engineered meat" producer, Beyond Meat).

Renting degrades the economy for lower and middle class folks while limiting their upward financial mobility by robbing them of the equity increases home ownership typically brings. This is not just BlackRock, Bloomberg just published an article claiming that “America should become a nation of renters”, further stating “The very features that made houses an affordable and stable investment are coming to an end.”

This idea, coupled with BlackRock’s actions, simply points to a commoditization of the housing market and a consolidation into corporate control of the foundational asset of the American family, their own home. It represents the loss of individual control of another asset class and a created dependence on corporations for the most basic of needs, shelter.

Now, add to that the control over media and the fact the Internet Overlords and Social Media Commissars have become agents of the federal government and the Democrat Party, and you have a pretty good idea of where the corporations and the big investors think we are going.

Biden's government continues its radical eco-agenda. Aside from being implicated tree spiking in the Pacific Northwest, an ecoterrorist act, and support for government enforced population control, Biden's horrific nominee to run the Bureau of Land Management, Tracy Stone-Manning, is notoriously anti-cattle grazing rights on federal lands. In her graduate thesis, Stone-Manning wrote:

"The origin of our abuses is us. If there were fewer of us, we would have less impact. We must consume less, and more importantly, we must breed fewer consuming humans."
The thesis also goes on to claim that cattle grazing on public lands is "destroying the West."

While not busying himself with mumbling incoherently, creepily whispering to reporters and lying about the Constitution, Dementia Joe is shutting down pipeline construction and cutting off oil leases on public lands.

What could go wrong?

Pick any dystopian novel or movie production – Blade Runner, Alien, Fahrenheit 451, Soylent Green, even The Fifth Element – all feature a future managed and controlled by marriages between corporations and governments and people dependent upon that unholy marriage for housing and sustenance.

This is a future being created today in the boardrooms and halls of government - and a one that is entirely avoidable.

They say science fiction will become science fact.

Let us hope not.

Remember – Soylent Green is people.

[henry]

sbw, fwiw per Ancestry Health I am a carrier of the hemochromatosis gene. My brother (bfd doc at Hopkins) laughed and said it has comparative advantage if you get in lots of fights (or are accident prone), so I would be fine. Fungus never came up in the discussion. I wish the best for your friend. Breathing freely is something we take for granted, lung problems scare me.

[Jane]

Yikes Stephanie!

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

“This is a future being created today in the boardrooms and halls of government - and a one that is entirely avoidable.”

We need to stop this, now.

We should start by exterminating everyone in the Club of Rome and the Bilderbergers.

[clarice]

Well, cattle producers in states where lots of cattle are grown would be smart to just set up their own processing plants. It's the American way. I have been noticing more and more as for companies that directly process their own meat and ship it directly to you.

[henry]

Clarice, yes. Local cattle raisers / butchers provide better quality at lower prices. (And the do the grass raised thing).

[clarice]

Some big retailers seem to have their own processing operations as well--I think Costco does with Australian lamb.

[Narciso]

Try this

https://tinyurl.com/yj4b3d6b

[matt - deplore me if you must]

My brother in law in Ireland has an abattoir. Not that difficult. Refrigeration, sanitation, and transport as well as a trained workforce.

A friend of mine went troppo and now has 10 acres up near Paso Robles where they pretty much grow their own. Chickens, sheep and a couple of cattle. An orchard and a fairly sizable garden. He has a Youtube site and did a video of a chicken plucker he made from an old washing machine.

People have been harvesting meat since there have been people and even before.

Not good for the 'burbs or urbs, but that's sort of my dream. K.I.S.

[anonamom]

sbw, as far as I or the fellow I have coffee with most mornings know, hemochromatosis does NOT effect the O2 carrying capacity of the hemoglobin.
I assume you've already checked Dr. Google.

If his sat is 98%, he's OK oxygen wise, but the progression of his fibrosis may cause him to feel like he's not breathing properly, is all I can guess.

So sorry. Glad he's done what he's wanted to do. Boy, you just never know what's coming around the corner. Fungus!

[sbwaters]

anon, you are so considerate to share some of your wisdom. Thank you.

[Jane]

Just had a great dinner with Stephanie er al, at the place that has conservative rallies once a month. Loved it. Came home to see the Trump rally in Ohio. It’s on Newsmax - he’s expected on stage any minute (whatever that means). It8 is absolutely packed!

[henry]

Trump rally on RSBN, as linked above…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l561c_BR-w

[Jane]

SBW you gotta tell me the dates you are coming down, because we are planning the JOM meet-up around you.

[henry]

Trump now live!

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Charles Glasser
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I can't go into too much detail at the moment, but I am doing pre-publication clearance on a well-researched book that really opened my eyes to how insanely evil George Soros is. I'm not talking about his Nazi collaboration as a youth, which he has spent a lot of money to quash. I'm talking about the cognitive choices of a grown man with patently evil intent. All documented and all horrible. (And no, not election stuff, either).

[Dave (in MA)]

RSBN keeps crapping out, so I switched to OAN.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

It's not easy being green;

[henry]

Ig, that dude’s balls would break the speed of sound exiting xers ears if it showed up at my door.

I think that gal could come close.

[sbwaters]

Jane: SBW you gotta tell me the dates you are coming down

Hi, Jane! Nice to hear about a JOM gathering ... We will be in Port Charlotte November 5-7th.

[Narciso]

Whats that german phrase about punchable face?

[Narciso]

Speaking of

https://mobile.twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1408878919672078346

[Narciso]

They know where there butter is

https://mobile.twitter.com/KurtSchlichter/status/1408861773608853505

[Neo]

“Tang Ping” or Chinese for “lying flat”.
This is a movement in China that has the CCP scared.
It is the rejection of “996” or 9AM to 9PM 6 days a week.

[Narciso]

Well they have to make the best of it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/deadline.com/2021/06/f9-speeds-to-7-1m-thursday-previews-best-to-date-during-pandemic-1234781577/amp/

It really does toad the wet sprocket

[Narciso]

He really should atop trying to minimize that contact

https://mobile.twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1408920891199795206

[Narciso]

Conduct,

[Narciso]

Shirley

https://www.timesofisrael.com/irans-khamenei-gets-1st-dose-of-home-made-covid-vaccine/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Narciso]

Wait what

https://mobile.twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1408885823051735041

[Catsmeat]

Backpfeifengesicht--Frau taught us this word. I personally think Eric Swalwell's visage should accompany any dictionary definition--or the vile Schiff's. But there are, admittedly, many contenders...

[Narciso]

Thanks i leave out a syllable when i recite it from memory which might mean something else.

[Narciso]

About that

https://mobile.twitter.com/RyanGirdusky/status/1408917241094197252

[Narciso]

Well they have some shame

https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2021/06/26/deadspin-editor-deletes-tweet-after-attacking-marine-corps-veteran-j-d-vance/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[MissMarple2]

Am at a different hospital May get out to morrow or Tuesday, still alive and kicking

[Catsmeat]

Love you, MM--and all health to CH too!

[clarice]

I hope so. MM. You're starting to run out of hospitals. XO

[Narciso]

You will make it miss marple, and yes you have to too many hospitals of late

[Davod]

MM. get well soon.

[Narciso]

Interesting

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelPSenger/status/1408852345069326337

[Narciso]

What is it with senior british bureaucrats ans ignorimg the rules thet set out for the rest of us, no ita uniquely british.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

arrogance and hubris know no bounds in the capitals of the world.

[Narciso]

Then they deserve allegiance or even respect, but too many grant them both

[Narciso]

Do not deserve,

[Narciso]

Indeed

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1408954623495487489

[henry]

Miss M, damn the hospitals, full health ahead!!

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

MM, wishing you the best and a speedy recovery!

[Melinda]

Healthy peace ahead, MM, and soonest!

[jim nj]

Alex Berenson makes an interesting observation about NY.

They're in a hurry to re-open now and sending out mixed messages. Some venues want proof of vaccination to attend, others not so much. Just come as you are, and bring a mask, or not.

IMHO they know they've lost most of the summer tourism season and they're trying to reverse that quickly. Perhaps to convince people to at least "think" about visiting and maybe show up when the theaters open.

I was concerned that Gov. Murphy was going to screw up the Jersey shore summer season re-start in a similar fashion. In spite of him, it looks like they are getting 2019 size crowds at Seaside Heights.

https://www.earthcam.com/usa/newjersey/seasideheights/?cam=seasideheights

I've been visiting virtually since the Memorial Day weekend.

[jim nj]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/458332/#respond

"There probably is some bias in there (and not on the side of white anything) though I don’t remember detecting it, when I did my deep dive into African history 17 years ago. What became very clear to me is that whenever civilized (in this case defined as post-tribal) humans collide with tribal humans, tribal humans lose. They use the techniques that work in between tribes, imagining that their adversaries are also a tribe:
They start off with unimaginable massacres and horrible evil in the belief that this will cause the adversaries to back off. Because this works, between tribes. But when you’re dealing with people who view human individuals as both important, and important regardless of tribe, the more atrocities they commit the more they aggravate the anger of the civilized people.
The civilized hold back, afraid of committing atrocities, and the tribal humans commit more atrocities, and act like victors, while doing truly horrific things.
And then at some point the post-tribal people lose it.
What comes after is usually horrific and causes college social studies majors to cry centuries later.
This dance has been performed over and over and over again, since Rome at least. Since we had a polity that transcended tribes. The end is always the same.

So, the neo-tribal barbarians of the left who are following the script to the letter might wish to hear and revise their tactics. They won’t, of course, but we should warn them, all the same. Since we’re the ones who are trying to avoid the horrors."

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058777/
Outnumbered British soldiers do battle with Zulu warriors at Rorke's Drift.

I was so intrigued by the movie that I read several books about the Zulus. They came to dominance by breaking the rules of polite tribal combat.

Both there and in colonial America tribes often engaged in counting coups. Sneak up on guards and tap them on the shoulder or kidnap somebody and make the other side grovel to get them back.

There are rules - until they are broken.

[Jack Lillywhite]

Over a 6 hour gap today. Where is the graveyard shift?

[Jack Lillywhite]

MM,

Give us an update ASAP.

[Narciso]

Hmm

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/where_in_the_world_is_dong_jingwei.html

[Marlene]

Good Morning! Thinking of you, MM!

[clarice]

Good morning, JOM.https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/06/where_in_the_world_is_dong_jingwei.html

Thanks, narciso.

[Narciso]

Why do you think hes not in a third country clarice.

[clarice]

I can't think of one he'd go to. Can you?

[Jack Lillywhite]

My bet is that he is at Gitmo, which is an infamous DIA outpost.

[Jack Lillywhite]

A reminder: He's not dead yet!

https://twitter.com/i/topics/733756536430809088?pt=1408963610773274625

[Jane]

Excellent Clarice - as always!

[Jane]

Hang tough MM!

[sbwaters]

I commented on a Facebook post on the origins of Critical Theory/Critical Legal Theory/Critical Race Theory that said, So CLT is NOT a project about correcting abuses in the system but overthrowing the system with relativist, postmodern, Marxist thought that is antithetical to western values that actually promote family, man and woman, liberty, the individual, and the notion that objective truths can be known (or at least, closely approximated).

Marxists and their critical theories may be correct that objective (universal) truths cannot be known (disputing St. Augustine who argued virtues are written on the fleshy tablets of the heart as some kind of natural law) but Leftists are dangerously wrong. Functional truths *can* be deduced and revalidated by each generation. A virtue is a shorthand label for the result of thoughtful analysis about a general concept that is, itself, easily acceptable and easily understood from one’s own personal experience (Note: not *shared* personal experience) —Two different individuals or cultures can create society. Where there is no shared experience, people with unique individual experience can still arrive at identical conclusions. Even though their experiences may be different, independent deductions reflecting on those experiences, are in important ways invariably the same. While not demonstrably universal, they might as well be so. — Summarized from my book "Individuals, Journalism, and Society."

[Old Lurker]

Jack, is the local reporting on the building collapse still pointing to sub surface issues?

[Melinda]

Some reporting of spalling on columns in the addition, as well as unrepaired cracking on undersides of balconies.

Press is doing their usual job of not asking the second questions.

(Not understanding what they're being told as answers to the first questions and therefore are unable to ask any follow up questions, because they have no clue how things work.)

[Melinda]

And at the top of ZH, they cite an engineer with warnings:

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/engineer-firm-warned-major-structural-damage-miami-condo-tower-collapsed

[Jack Lillywhite]

OL,

The engineers (6 the Miami Herald have talked to) believe a structural column by the garage area gave way first triggering a sequence of events.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-beach/article252396233.html

[clarice]

I suppose, if my experience with condo living in Fla is a guide, the Board was unwilling or unable to force the owners to pay a substantial renovation fee to address the structural problems.

[clarice]

Living by the sea involves a lot of reconstruction costs as the salt water erodes the materials.

[Narciso]

The pool deck doesnt seem much but the parking garage shirley.

[GUS]

How long until GLOW BULL warming is blamed for the collapse. AND!!! Does anyone remember how many years ago MIAMI was retaken by the rising seas.

[Jack Lillywhite]

Clarice:And that is why you epoxy coat all the rebar used in structural concrete as if that would occur to whoever built the condos.

Narc,

Pool deck is above the garage. Sequence is the word of the day.

[Old Lurker]

One thing we know for sure is that in time the Forensic Structural Engineers will figure it out in detail.

[Neo]

Revenge Attacks! China's Mass Stabbing Crisis!
https://youtu.be/Qwge0nwY4qY

[Momto2]

Good morning all! I don't watch tv news but online the building collapse isn't getting the intense coverage I would expect. All of those people still "missing"...very sad.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

Come on, man! Everyone knows that Trump caused the collapse!

[Jack Lillywhite]

Momto2,

It not have been fully occupied. Which begs the question, why haven't we heard from owners who were not in residence?

[Barbara]

I truly enjoyed President Trump's rally last evening although it's so difficult to realize that he's not in office. Those who conceived and brought about that absurd theft must be brought to justice if we are to survive. One of them is General Mark Milley. Michael Yon nails it in this article which I highly recommend.

https://michaelyon.locals.com/post/797555/godwins-law-and-general-mark-milley

[GUS]

When Milley mentioned TRANNIES at the AIR FORCE ACADEMY Graduation, I nearly puked.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Mark Milley's most useful job in the military would be as a towable target drone.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

--arrogance and hubris know no bounds in the capitals of the world--

Our great historical hope is that before they die either reality or their subjects teach them an unforgettable lesson in humility. A very painful one.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

New thread, looks like a bad one.