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Kabul has fallen and the Afghan "government" has fled?!?

Afghanistan Live Updates: Government Collapses as President Flees, and Taliban Enter Kabul

The U.S. military raced to evacuate diplomats and civilians as the insurgents stood poised to retake complete control of the country 20 years after being toppled by American forces.

 

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[jim nj]

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/08/15/afghanistan-taliban-seize-kabul-504749

[jim nj]

I was reading this last night

https://www.axios.com/scoop-biden-braces-for-brutal-loss-7012efe9-c4cd-48df-8c2b-7484e2f17231.html

[jim nj]

https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/afghanistan-taliban-us-troops-intl-08-15-21/index.html

Taliban fighters are assuming control of the Afghan capital of Kabul and have taken control of the presidential palace, after the country's president Ashraf Ghani fled to Tajikistan.

One of its units shared pictures of the Palace interior – seemingly intact, but empty and abandoned by Afghan officials – on an official Telegram account. A video posted on social media a few hours before showed fighters arriving at the Presidential Palace in Kabul

The group’s spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid said earlier that its forces would begin entering areas of the city where the government officials and security forces had abandoned their posts."

“This morning the Islamic Emirate released a statement that our forces were outside Kabul city and we did not want to enter Kabul through military ways,” he said. “However, now we are getting reports that the district police offices are evacuated, police has left their job of ensuring the security, also the ministries are emptied and the security personnel of the Kabul administration has fled.”

“Therefore, in order to avoid any looting and burglary in Kabul and stop opportunists from harming the people, the Islamic Emirate has advised its forces to enter those areas of the city where the enemy has left and the areas are at risk of looting and burglary,” he added.

Social media posts and witness accounts suggest Taliban presence within the city is growing.

[henry]

So Taliban is protecting its right to first looting and redistribution of females? How civilized.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

"Hi! This is Ashraf Ghani and I can't come to the phone right now..."

At least they let them go.

[James D.]

Still happy about your vote for Biden, TM? Still proud of no more mean tweets?

[Jack Lillywhite]

James D,

I have never voted “against” someone like you seem to think TM did. (I have no info that he did but you seem to have that evidence). Voting against someone is a pretty “chickenshit” way of protesting your vote. If you vote for the individual based on their positions and ideas compatible to your positions and values, fine.

But to vote against someone based on the same principle but not for the values extended by the electee is really grade school logic.

[bubarooni]

perfidious America.

i was prepared to endure the ignominy that i knew was coming our way when this lot took control of our country, i just thought it would be a more long and drawn out ignominy.

i reckon at this point all a lad can do is go over to the South China Morning Post and read their take so i can feel even worse.

we are now in Make American Chumps Again territory.

[Narciso]

so will the taliban, move their war booty, I don't get why mazar i sharif surrendered, they know there is no love lost with the taliban,

[Narciso]

at this point, nod might as well be making the statements, that robert malley, for those with the rosetta, he has been for every islamist movements from algeria to the islamic state

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9895577/Blinken-blames-inability-Afghan-forces-Taliban-takeover-GOP-says-buck-stops-Biden.html

[clarice]

I wish that instead of endorsing women's studies in Afghanistan we'd handed the women weapons and taught them to shoot.

[bubarooni]

i think if i was in charge of Taiwan, i would conduct a general mobilization drill about right now...

[Narciso]

this is the same intelligence and military establishment that saw little wrong with the burning storefronts and collapsed storefronts, last year no, and is outraged over delta house hijinks,

[Narciso]

things I don't get, as bad as the ghani govt may be, there is no telling the horrors that the taliban can bring,

[Momto2]

Jack Posobiec Flag of United States
@JackPosobiec
The national security agencies are more worried about your tweets about vaccines than what the Taliban is up to when we have troops in harm's way

[Momto2]

Brilliant article (and I'm ordering the book!) I'm posting on both JOM sites as I feel it makes some important observations about our young people.

https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/13/a- ... -but-must/

[Barbara]

How long do you think it will take the democrats to blame this clusterfuck on President Trump?

[Momto2]

.

[Narciso]

slow on the draw,

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/15/fncs-wallace-to-pompeo-do-you-regret-giving-taliban-legitimacy/

[bubarooni]

Narc, things are moving fast.

6 months from now, the horrors of this takeover will begin to filter out.

[Barbara]

For decades, Joe Biden has touted himself as a foreign policy genius. As a United States senator, he never had to make a decision or bear responsibility for running off at the mouth. As vice-president, he was given backwaters such as Ukraine that he reportedly turned into a family piggy bank.

But now he is president. He owns the utter disaster that Afghanistan has become; and the sudden about-face of the Pentagon to send 3,000 fully-armed combat troops back into the fray shows that even the woke military bosses Biden installed can wake up and smell the coffee.

https://nypost.com/2021/08/14/president-biden-will-own-the-fall-of-kabul-when-the-real-killing-begins/amp/

[Narciso]

in six months they'll be feeding on eastern provinces of pakistan, and piece of balochistan,

[Narciso]

when the saleh regime fell to the houthis in part the gulf states picked up the slack somewhat, it's been a big muddy for the last 6 years,

[Narciso]

that was fast

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2021/08/taliban-leader-i-was-detained-in-guantanamo-bay-camp-for-several-years

[Narciso]

people shouldn't boast of this,

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/25/harris-afghanistan-biden-withdrawal-decision-484581

[henry]

Narciso, in world poker, all in… the White House plays a pair of jokers.

[Pinandpuller]

Guess who’s been reading Karl Marx and Saul Alinsky:

Satan is just misunderstood. I think he mainly has a problem with organized religion and their hypocrisy as do I.

https://twitter.com/davidmweissman/status/1426661766159872002?s=21

[Pinandpuller]

Anakin/Padme meme: “This is for Afghani refugees right? It’s for Afghanis, RIGHT?”:

“THE ARMY AND NATIONAL GUARD ARE HIRING "SPECIALISTS" FOR THE NEW INTERNMENT / RESETTLEMENT CAMPS" [ Job Posting ]

This is in preparation for the CDC's new "Shielding Approach" aka FEMA CAMPS. What is the Shielding Approach?
According to the CDC's website, it aims to reduce the number of COVID-19 cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease (“high-risk”) and the general population (“low-risk”). High-risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or “green zones” established at the household, neighborhood, camp/sector or community level.

They would have minimal contact with family members and other low-risk residents. "Implementation of the approach necessitates strict adherence."”

[James D.]

Jack @ 2:45

TM made it very clear on Twitter he was supporting Biden over Trump, essentially to “lower the temperature” and not have any more mean tweets.

So I figure he gets to own Every single disaster that Biden and co provide us with.

[Narciso]

what is this standup

https://tinyurl.com/h6vwd24

[Narciso]

jeane kirkpatrick had the number of those san francisco democrats, who hold the next two top posts, nearly 30 years ago,

[Barbara]

Pinandpuller @5:17,

Do you have a link for that info?

[Pinandpuller]

Savoy Cabbage: Worst Beatles Song of All Time.

[fdcol63 🇺🇸]

The point-of-no-return was actually Election Day 2008.

We’re now seeing the culmination of Obama’s damage to all of our major institutions, especially the military and DoD senior command.

[Pinandpuller]

Barbara : https://t.me/westcoastintel/13717

[sbwaters]

fdcol63, Election Day 2008 was the day I started writing "Individuals, Journalism, and Society."

[Barbara]

Thanks, Pin.

[Narciso]

indeed

https://www.steynonline.com/11598/the-scale-of-humiliation

[Jack Lillywhite]

fdclol,

Agree!

[MissMarple2]

Regarding Momto2's excellent book review about the upcoming generation, I remember the fall of Saigon and how ashamed I was of how THAT was handled.

My daughter wasn't even born when that happened, and my son (ten years older) doesn't remember much because he wasn't watching news coverage.

So, most of the younger people, whose American history books cram everything from WW1 to Desert Storm into a gobbledygook of "recent history" into the last chapter or two of their history books, where it's presented as mostly rich with their boots on the necks of everyone (except FDR and JFK, who are presented as saints) and our nation being a shameful country, who doesn't care about innocent civilians and doesn't keep its word, therefore has nothing to be proud of, the last being the 1980 Miracle on Ice. Plus it's covered in May, when all the kids are thinking about summer vacation.

As you can tell, this gets me fired up!

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

Michael Smith

Look, Clinton was a horndog with a taste for interns, Obama was a slick, race baiting liar with the personality of a used car salesman, and these two were true scumbags - but I never felt personally slimed with their scum. I felt distanced from their evil, able to stand back and observe.

But Biden and his ilk hve vomited a coat of slick, chunky detritus all over every institution in America and it is hard for me not to feel covered in the fetid sludge as I think of Joe Biden and his criminal organization of Biden, Biden, Biden and Biden, Inc.

There is just something so low brow about the obvious and in-your-face corruption of The Big Guy, Dr. Jill, Bro James and Hunter the Hoemonger. I think the Big Guy taught Obama the art of the steal before he started to slip - but notice how Obama doesn't want anything to do with Biden now. I think Obama sees the chance to get free of his obligations to Biden and just let him slip into oblivion. Obama paid his debt by getting the presidency for his former VP.

I do think Old Joe is being used because he ain't all there, but the people around him are like the cast of a bad Lifetime movie (the network that has movies with titles like "Psycho Storm Chaser", "My Husband's Killer Girlfriend" and "Lethal Love Triangle").

Maybe something like "My Husband, the Mentally Defective President" or "I'm in Charge Now, the Untold Story of Dr. Jill Biden".

B,B,B & B are all propping up the Big Guy for personal enrichment - I can see Dr. Jill giving a semi-conscious Joe injections and encouraging him to "take your medicine, we need you to do a hit for CNN". Let me get you some ice cream."

It's all so obvious and the remarkable thing is people just don't care.

Everything about these people is just wrong.

[Barbara]

Narciso,

That Steyn article is brutal! Accurate but brutal. Indeed.

[MissMarple2]

I agree. High praise for that Steyn article!

[MissMarple2]

Video at link.

Another Saigon moment: chaotic scenes at Kabul International Airport. No security. None. pic.twitter.com/6BuXqBTHWk

— Saad Mohseni (@saadmohseni) August 15, 2021

[Pinandpuller]

GOP Be Like: “I’m not only the Marxist Rope of the Day Club President, but I’m also a client.”

[bubarooni]

Ohhh.. I left out something. I mentioned 'perfidious' and 'ignominy' earlier but left out 'humiliation'.

I'll never be able to write for a living.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/15/pompeos-prophetic-warning-biden-afghanistan/

[MissMarple2]

"What Joe Biden has done with Afghanistan is legendary. It will go down as one of the greatest defeats in American history!" - President Donald J. Trump

[matt - deplore me if you must]

I spent almost an hour on the phone with a couple of buddies who were at the sharp end of the stick in Iraq and Afghanistan for several tours. These were front line paratroopers.

They said that it was perfectly obvious from the beginning that the ANA and ANP were worthless. No commitment. No esprit, but rather the opposite.

The fobbits never left their bases or "fusion"centers. The generals were too busy. The intel and political were clueless.

A complete system failure.

And yet even with that a few thousand US and Allied troops; mechanics to fix their shit, and air support would have held the Taliban at bay.

If ever there was a colossal f up it was Afghanistan.

[Jack Lillywhite]

Off to bed. Have a welcome sleep.

[MissMarple2]

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2021/08/12/exclusive-mexico-abandons-border-state-immigration-checkpoints-near-texas/

[MissMarple2]

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/42004/mayhem-at-kabul-airport-causing-american-troops-to-fire-warning-shots-to-push-back-crowds

This article has numerous videos, photos and tweets documenting the situation at the airport.

[MissMarple2]

Jason Miller
@JasonMillerinDC
·
5h
LOL. CNN has academics weighing in from Martha’s Vineyard and Vancouver, B.C., to say Biden’s Afghanistan disaster is really the fault of George W. Bush and all the presidents since

[MissMarple2]

A FEW WORDS FROM ALEX JONES 👀👊😎🙏👇👇👇 pic.twitter.com/ucaW19SdXf

— Sarah Hansen (@SarahHa66971729) August 15, 2021

Video at link, with much cussing.

[Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma]

From the Stein article:

Federal Unitary Central Kabul Western Intelligence Tracking Service.

FUCKWITS

[MissMarple2]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/trump-calls-on-biden-to-resign-in-disgrace-amid-afghanistan-withdrawal

[MissMarple2]

https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2732053/joint-statement-from-the-department-of-state-and-department-of-defense-update-o/

Well, look at this:

"And we will accelerate the evacuation of thousands of Afghans eligible for U.S. Special Immigrant Visas, nearly 2,000 of whom have already arrived in the United States over the past two weeks. For all categories, Afghans who have cleared security screening will continue to be transferred directly to the United States. And we will find additional locations for those yet to be screened."

So, beginning 2 weeks ago we were bringing in Afghanis. Wasn't this when Biden (I believe last Thursday) told us that there was nothing to be concerned about?

[MissMarple2]

Heading to bed.

Good night, everyone!

[matt - deplore me if you must]

The shockwaves are already being felt. A former Israeli ambassador said today that Israel must rely on themselves. Cut & Run Joe can't be trusted.

“The USA is our closest ally. They have been there for Israel time & again over the years. But the horrific events in Afghanistan must be a hard, scary lesson about changing interests & cold, hard calculations.”

“Dangerously, in 2021, self-reliance is more important than ever,” he said.

None of our allies have ever voiced this opinion. Japan is going to re-arm now as well to defend themselves from China. A lot of very smart people are worried as hell about Taiwan's future.

The loss of Taiwan would be cataclysmic. Say goodbye to your high tech devices. Even cars and tv's are dependent upon the Taiwanese supply chain. The internet would also take a massive hit.

The only real way to solve this issue now is a clear threat to China that if they try to take Taiwan we go nuclear. We made the mistake of not recognizing China's threat in 1950. MacArthur thought we had it in the bag until 300,000 Chinese troops crossed the border.

As is being demonstrated in real time our leaders are a bunch of feckless fucks who can't tell their asses from a hole in the ground.

Two can play at closing the Straights of Hormuz as well, but it will get nasty. Our allies cannot trust us and our enemies are gaining strength by the day.

As far as I know the Chinese don't yet have an ABM system nor a Sea-Air-Land deterrent.

I hate to even think in these terms, but Xi is the most ruthless dictator since Stalin and has his eye set on ruling the world. Anschluss in Hong Kong, Bringing the non-state owned industries into the service of the state. All of this presages a war of conquest and he knows his Sun Tzu.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Just to be clear, though winning in Afghanistan was never a realistic option, Biden and his generals have made a humiliating and disastrous debacle out of what should have been instead an embarrassing departure.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Let's hope the Taiwanese have already or are now restarting their nuclear program and letting Peking know.
China could turn Taiwan to glass but the rest of the world will wall them off if they do so.
And if Taiwan got nukes delivered before the glazing event, the world wouldn't have to wall China off if Shanghai and Peking and a few other cities are smoldering radioactive ruins.

[clarice]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/467888/
For those who voted for Biden.

[Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki]

Glenn Greenwald says what I did at 10:41 but better;

--Both Trump and Biden were adamant about withdrawing all US troops from Afghanistan, and both were right. That country doesn't belong to the US and the US can't run it forever.

But the idea that problems with withdrawal plans belongs to anyone but Biden is preposterous.--

[Dave (in MA)]

"... and I've assured the President that we're taking Diversity, Equity and Inclusion fully into account during the evacuation of our personnel from Kabul."

[jim nj]

https://www.reuters.com/article/china-economy-activity/wrapup-1-chinas-factory-output-retail-sales-slow-miss-expectations-idUSL1N2PN03I

China's factory output, retail sales slow, miss expectations

[jim nj]

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/467875/#respond

TEXTS FROM A FRIEND WITH A LOT OF MILITARY EXPERIENCE:

[jim nj]

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/paula-bolyard/2021/08/15/shock-taliban-is-paying-military-commanders-to-surrender-cities-journalist-embedded-in-afghanistan-says-n1469769

That wouldn't surprise me.

[jim nj]

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/567864-still-in-the-game-will-durhams-report-throw-a-slow-curveball-at-key

Interesting segue - watch the "eephus" video link in the first paragraph.

[jim nj]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/aug/14/afghanistan-taliban-us-troops

Why is Afghanistan falling to the Taliban so fast?

The US public has not been given the full truth about Afghanistan for the past 15 years. Now, the bankruptcy of US policies is plain to see

[Pinandpuller]

I pray thee, go not to Ben Wattenberg:

“The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality.”

[clarice]

I doubt a site called "Jewsupremacist" source of Pin's info is reliable. In any event go not to Ben as he's been dead for some years now.

[clarice]

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/08/when_it_comes_to_the_taliban_nancy_pelosi_is_delusional.html

[Pinandpuller]

“The Northern [US] onslaught upon slavery [the Taliban] was no more than a piece of specious humbug designed to conceal its desire for economic control of the Southern states [Afghanistan].”
Charles Dickens, 1862 [2021 Colorized]

[clarice]

https://asiatimes.com/2021/08/cardinal-richelieu-and-the-ghosts-of-empires-past/

[Pinandpuller]

I don’t know about all that. My source for Jewish Supremacy is the Babylonian Talmud.

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Falling? Afghanistan has fallen hook, line and sinker..

The Taliban offensives began in early May. At first it was bloody. A lot of dead on both sides. But as it progressed more and more government forces simply surrendered or walked away.

The march on Kabul became a parade of dusty pickup trucks carrying fighters and confiscated HMMV's. Who needs MRAP's and tanks?

In Afghanistan, the man with the gun over there holds all the power, and it is that immediate. Do what he says and you survive.

Let's see what is next.

[clarice]

And ,pin, the Talmud quotes Ben Wattenberg?

[matt - deplore me if you must]

Clarice, that was some very fine writing.

[rse]

Do read the piece clarice linked at 7:31 above.

Very good way to make the needed point. I was thinking on a long walk yesterday that it is difficult to imagine that kabul will not be seen as a green light for the ccp to go after taiwan.

[Rocco]

Good morning, can't stick around, have lots of chores today. It appears President Bush has cut off the branch he was sitting on! May the fleas of a thousand camels infest his crotch, for voting for Biden.

Later

[Jack Lillywhite]

rse,

Except the Taiwanese military is very formidable and the CHICOMS know it.

[Narciso]

maybe closer to the fall of aden, after the battle of the crater, wilson pulled out, there was no real pitched battles, that I can see, sheep trusting wolves not to eat them,

[Narciso]

yep

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/robert-spencer/2021/08/15/taliban-commander-vows-jihad-against-the-whole-world-n1469598

[rse]

jib--

Agreed on the militaries not being equivalent, but any US guarantee to any country has to now be considered worthless.

[Old Lurker]

This:

https://amgreatness.com/2021/08/12/the-silence-of-the-shepherds/

[clarice]

As horrible as Afghanistan is, Biden is hiding and Psaki just took a vacation. I cannot believe he will survive this.

[Narciso]

circling back, yes kamalas prints are all over it,

[Narciso]

lets not commit category error, gens donahue, (last seen berating hillsdale students on twitter) milley vannili, that yutz for the 4th ID, couldn't see their untied laces, the Afghan army and people, seem to be similarly blind, the weary warfighters of this Pelopenessian adventure, are much more aware of interests, since they and their brother bled for each patch of sand, each outcropping of rock,

[matt - deplore me if you must]

narc, no one's prints are on this because they all left town, literally. Their motto is "when the going gets tough, the toffs go shopping"

What a complete and utter disgrace. Talk about grounds for impeachment.

He actually had the gall, along with Blinken, to blame Trump. What a pair of complete losers.

[MissMarple2]

clarice,

The Cardinal Richelieu article at 7:31 is excellent, although sobering when I sat down to catch up with my coffee in hand. Thanks for finding it!

[Narciso]

so that promise, already broken

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9897561/ALL-Embassy-staff-Kabul-evacuated-airport-five-people-killed.html

[Jane]

Someone on Fox just reported that CNN, MSNBC, NBC Etc have all turned on Biden.

[henry]

Harris bought them off?

[henry]

Meanwhile, a new sense of urgency.

Real Time Economics @WSJecon
6m

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi asked a top committee to look at moving forward on a $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure bill along with the $3.5 trillion budget framework in an effort to balance the demands of her party’s ideological factions.
on.wsj.com/3yT2KEL

[Narciso]

our own band of barbarian wreckers, I looked into the list of released gitmo detainees and I could find no afghans who had spent only 8 years at gitmo,

[henry]

apparently another Iran client given a gift by Xiden / Kerry et al.

Heshmat Alavi
@HeshmatAlavi

Quite interesting to see #Iran's regime, the world's leading state sponsor of terrorism, rejoicing the U.S.' "defeat" in Afghanistan & adding it must usher in a durable peace in the neighboring war-wracked country.

Tehran is a significant beneficiary.
english.alarabiya.net/News/middle-ea…

https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1427267650942603271

[clarice]

I think this administration is over. The problem is also getting rid of the order of succession--Both Harris and Pelosi ,and all the way down the line. A dilemma.

[Narciso]

its turtles all the way down, clarice

[clarice]

Stop calling these idiots a "ruling class"; the more accurate name for the lot of them is the drooling class.

[Narciso]

this is what robert malley, nod, wants, his school chum blinken just follows along, his father in a corner of hell, applauds as well, an inveterate lefty, although not an islamist,