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October 20, 2021

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Narciso

you didn't see this coming


https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/22/wilford-progressives-salt-reconciliation-bill/

Narciso


fwiw

https://twitter.com/HansMahncke/status/1451577798661914633/photo/1

Jack Lillywhite

Listening to the radio coming back from getting my ride worked on, I heard a movie person note that live rounds in guns on set are not unusual. He said that those rounds fully loaded but even at 6 to 10 feet they feel the same as a 100% loaded round.

Jack Lillywhite

....should read...[they should feel the same as a 100% loaded round.]

Neo

Kamala Harris blurted out a bizarre line during her speech.

“I eat and drink no for breakfast!” she shouted.

https://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1451597709220225034

Narciso

do I need to come up with a rejoinder?

Narciso

this is not the first rodeo, there are protocols as to the handling of all weapons, thats why the last such film accident was nearly 30 years ago,

Jack Lillywhite

...those rounds ARE not fully loaded..... Geez!

Narciso

prop master was not union apparently, also didn't have a lick of sense

jimmyk

I would have thought Red would be gone first.

I see what you did there.... (red ink)

Pinandpuller

Sounds like if Baldwin really joked around, pointed a gun at two people and pulled the trigger he should be charged with ADW, Negligent Homicide and Reckless Discharge of a Firearm.

Pinandpuller

I’ve noticed pretty much all CBS shows like ‘Blue Bloods’ using CGI and actors doing “Pew! Pew! Pew!”

jimmyk

And Feliz Cumpleaños to narciso!

jimmyk

No one was charged with anything in the Brandon Lee case, but there was a big lawsuit settled out of court. If Baldwin was the producer he'll take it on the chin (or his insurance company will). Couldn't happen to a not nicer guy.

boris

Seems like the shooting required multiple screwups. Still, common sense gun handling was apparently not followed.

Do actors who use guns in their work even get training?

Narciso


apparently not;


https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1451624394384715779

Pinandpuller

The last California fire raged all around Mel Gibson’s house but left it completely untouched.

Alyssa Milano has Stage Four cancer.

Alec Baldwin killed a woman.

Make of that what you will.

DCSCA

'The last California fire raged all around Mel Gibson’s house but left it completely untouched.

Alyssa Milano has Stage Four cancer.

Alec Baldwin killed a woman.'

Joe Biden is the most powerful man on Earth.

"Make of that what you will."

DCSCA

'Do actors who use guns in their work even get training?'

Worked in Hollywood. They get 'training' in basic usage [Baldwin's had that experience for years] and the pieces are modified for safe film work.

But the safety of the weapon itself for use on set is the responsibility of the PROPMASTER, not the actor.

So this isn't on Baldwin at all. Somebody likely either failed to clean and clear the weapon properly or it was loaded w/a faulty cartridge- or simply misloaded it completely.

THey'l figure it out. The union will be involved. for sure

Jane

Happy birthday Narc!

Narciso

apparently the union wasn't involved,

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

So this isn't on Baldwin at all.

Bullshit. You NEVER point a gun and "shoot" it. You ALWAYS assume it is loaded even if the mook tells you it isn't.

Narciso

as is usual, he doesn't have respect for such a valuable tool, as he has too much disdain for the users of same,

Narciso

john landis was the producer or director on twilight zone, if memory serves, and he was responsible for the pyrotechnics and safety on set, I forget if they finally convicted him, because it's an la jury,

Narciso

can't get rid of them, like barnicles,


https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/22/neera-tanden-white-house-staff-secretary-ron-klain-office-management-budget/

Melinda

Happy BDay, narc!

Melinda

One actor's experience on set, but only one:

Nick Searcy, INSURRECTIONAL FILM & TELEVISION STAR
@yesnicksearcy
Replying to @lawyermatt @AdamBaldwin
Every time I have ever been handed a gun, the prop master has made sure that I see the status of the gun, showing me that it is either clear and totally empty, or if I am firing a blank, how many rounds are loaded and how many times I will fire the weapon. I must acknowledge.

https://twitter.com/yesnicksearcy/status/1451593714225201156

Melinda

Statement Of U.S. Attorney Damian Williams On Guilty Verdicts Against Lev Parnas And Andrey Kukushkin


https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/statement-us-attorney-damian-williams-guilty-verdicts-against-lev-parnas-and-andrey

Narciso

damian williams shirley,

clarice

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set

Narciso

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1451629713881907200

Narciso

well thats convenient,


https://twitter.com/BruceLeshan/status/1451618572589993986?s=19

jimmyk

So from clarice's 4:40, sounds like the prop guy could have been a last minute non-union replacement.

In any case, Baldwin was the producer so I would think this is on him as far as liability goes.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Alyssa Milano has Stage Four cancer...
...Make of that what you will.--

I think you're thinking of her co-star Shannon Doherty who IIRC was something of a Trump gal.
So probably can't make too much of it one way or t'other.

Melinda

If he fired in anger for the crew walking off, that's an entirely different mindset.

Not like he's a well known hot head or anything.

Melinda

MobyKat
@MobyKat6969
I can confiscate it ? Under who’s orders ? WTH you have no authority!!! 😤😤😤

John Cardillo @johncardillo
Healthcare “heroes”

Fuck these people

pic.twitter.com/ad3oNLv1Mc

https://twitter.com/MobyKat6969/status/1451519134353723401

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Mercedes Benz of Selma AL
G class

MSRP 178,000
etch 199
MARKET ADJUSTMENT 125,000

Sticker 303,199

AYFKM???

From a pic of the sticker on FB...

bubarooni

Happy Bday Narciso.

Melinda

MacCocktail
@MacCocktail
Alec Baldwin 'Rust' camera crew walked off the set in protest before the fatal shooting a.msn.com/12/en-us/AAPQj…

https://twitter.com/MacCocktail/status/1451664364688363522

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2021-10-22/alec-baldwin-rust-camera-crew-walked-off-set#:~:text=Hours%20before%20actor%20Alec%20Baldwin%20fatally%20shot%20a,walked%20off%20the%20set%20to%20protest%20working%20conditions.

MissMarple2

Natciso,

Happy Birthday!!!

MissMarple2

Ack!

Narciso!! Sorry for the typo!

Narciso

you usually fire up, not in any straight line

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

Happy Birthday Narciso!

You need to come down for the meetup!

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

I posted some more info on JOM2 about the meetup.

Narciso

i'm skeptical, that anything will come of this,


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate/sinema-bathroom-confrontation-could-lead-to-charges?utm_campaign=article_rail&utm_source=internal&utm_medium=article_rail

Narciso

i larfed at one point


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQv_h5JQJHY

boris

"the safety of the weapon itself for use on set is the responsibility of the PROPMASTER, not the actor"

Baldwin pointing in the direction of the crew and pulling the trigger could not possibly be in the script.

Melinda

Americans for Public Trust
@apublictrust
🚨NEW: A former EPA official is suing to halt the work of an EPA committee pushing stricter air-pollution standards, pointing to major conflicts by advisory board members who have long relied on EPA grants.

nationalreview.com/news/whistlebl…

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/whistleblower-moves-to-halt-epa-committee-work-claims-members-conflicted-by-reliance-on-government-grants/

Narciso

as tucker notes, this is the best take, and yet she seems like some defective cyborg,

Melinda

Raheem J. Kassam
@RaheemKassam
BREAKING: UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson concedes vaccination does NOT offer protection from catching COVID, nor from spreading it.

Vax mandates are, therefore, a fraud. pic.twitter.com/M6aE3DRDoW

https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1451636080692842499

Melinda

Luke Rudkowski

@Lukewearechange

WOW this is bad.

"crew walked off Alec Baldwin movie set hours before shooting in row over conditions and were replaced 'on the fly' by locals: Workers feared for gun safety after 'TWO misfires' days before Baldwin accidentally shot dead cinematographer"

https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1451669996984311813

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10121545/Production-crew-walked-Alec-Baldwin-movie-set-hours-tragic-shooting.html

Jack Lillywhite

Cost of labor going lower:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tens-thousands-migrants-southern-border-remain-in-mexico-restart

henry

Quality of labor dropping faster than the cost.

henry

Lincoln man boy project is excited:

https://hotair.com/allahpundit/2021/10/22/report-pence-is-thinking-of-primarying-trump-n424192

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

Pence v Trump = Midget Wrestler v Tyson Fury.

henry

Ig, think of the grift! The rear admiral Kristol needs a new smoking jacket to cover his ever expanding girth.

Davod

Matt. How long before we find out about the love triangle?

Jack Lillywhite

If true, the rumor Pence will primary Trump proves he wasn't qualified to be Trumps VP in the first place.

I can't think of anyone outsie of DeSantis that could but he has no name recognition outside Florida where Trump is universal.

Big gap to overcome.


DCSCA

'Bullshit. You NEVER point a gun and "shoot" it. You ALWAYS assume it is loaded even if the mook tells you it isn't.'

Nobody asked what you served for lunch, Steff... You don't know the particulars and having worked in Hollywood myself there are strict protocols regarding firearm use on set; actors using same are schooled in their use and AB knew them-- the responsibility lay with the prop master on set and the cian of custody for prepping the use of the firearms on set. Clearly something went awry- be it an uncleaned weapon, a faulty cartridge or a live round or wrong caliber round loaded into the weapon--- nd none of that is the responsibility of the actor. It's the prop master who is ultimately responsible for managing the props.

Davod

A quote from Martha Raye:

"I am a Republican because I believe in the constitution, strength in national defense, limited government, individual freedom, and personal responsibility as the concrete foundation for American government. They reinforce the resolve that the United States is the greatest country in the world and we can all be eternally grateful to our founding fathers for the beautiful legacy they left us today."

DCSCA

A quote from the President of the United States:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: all men and women are created, by the, you know the, you know the thing." – Joe Biden

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

“The projectile pierced through Hutchins' chest and also struck the director behind her, who survived”

What the hell kind of gun/ammo were they using??

DCSCA

A quote from the man who boasts he drove 18 wheelers and has FDR's photo framed in his office:

"When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened." – Joe Biden

sbwaters

Someone tell Biden that Roosevelt wasn’t president when the stock market crashed. His term started in 1933.

MissMarple2

Is Biden still blathering? He is SUCH an embarrassment!

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

I've been conversing with my friends that work in Hollywood. A stuntman, a director and an actor. NONE agrees with you.

It might be the responsibility of the prop person and the protocols might say to do X, but it has already been shown that the crew walked because they weren't doing X.

And if/when it gets to a jury, any normal American gun owner is going to judge this based on what training tells you... you NEVER trust anyone else's statement that a gun is empty. Period.

And I'd be willing to bet that AB blew off the safety discussions/drills as he is so arrogant that he would never dream he couldn't follow them - those are for the little people.

DCSCA

'I've been conversing with my friends that work in Hollywood. A stuntman, a director and an actor. NONE agrees with you.'

Apparently not very long, Stef.

All three are not responsible when setting up to shoot the shoot. The PROP MASTER is.

DCSCA

https://www.nytimes.com/1967/01/11/archives/stunt-pilots-crash-linked-to-drinking.html

So do you blame the director?

Stuntman Mantz?

MissMarple2

https://thefederalist.com/2021/10/21/biden-forced-americans-into-a-game-of-chicken-over-their-livelihoods-and-theyre-not-flinching/#.YXNiH2MEmWI.twitter

Catsmeat

Hi, Narc! I hope you are having a lovely birthday!

MissMarple2

.@RichardGrenell tells @CortesSteve When there was missing paperwork people at the state department was telling officials in Germany to make decisions best they can. Normal vetting takes more than a year not just four or five days like we’ve seen. pic.twitter.com/jc4C04qfHk

— The Dirty Truth (Josh) (@AKA_RealDirty) October 23, 2021

Video of Grenell on Cortes's show at the link. About 1:45.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--What the hell kind of gun/ammo were they using??--

If that was an accurate description then only a live round will have the power to do that. And at close range most calibers can penetrate one body and hit another.

DCSCA

ITASE will be in on this.

MissMarple2

Torch light procession in Milan, Italy against the govt compulsory health pass to work. pic.twitter.com/8k2GBB6qXj

— 🧢מאק (@beingrealmac) October 22, 2021

Short video at the link.

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--Someone tell Biden that Roosevelt wasn’t president when the stock market crashed.--

Not to mention the small detail that in 1929 essentially no one had a TV and Roosevelt, whatever his station in life, didn't use a medium no one owned to yak about the stock market.

MissMarple2

All American Girl
@AIIAmericanGirI
·
35m
DHS pays over $455K to build 'security fencing' around Biden's beach home https://foxnews.com/politics/dhs-pays-over-455k-build-security-fencing-around-bidens-beach-home
@FoxNews

Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

--It's the prop master who is ultimately responsible for managing the props.--

That is presumably a workplace rule. Does it bear on civil and criminal liability?
Civil liability particularly often means what a jury says it means regardless of evidence or law. Ask Monsanto.

DCSCA

Iggy- Well the term 'live round' has differing meanings w/t film set; not necessarily a 'live round; aka a standard bullet round civilians think of but 'live' in terms of a hot blank, etc. The carts and loads for these weapons vary and it's the responsibility of the prop master/armaments team to follow the protocols. Weapons cleaned, loads proper for the weapons in use. Hollywood is quite anal bout this sort of thing-- chiefly for insurance, legal and liability issues. And the armaments/prop master folks usually are quite meticulous and safety conscious about this, too-- their reps and jobs depend on it.

But if the team says hey, this is a dangerous load for this scene and the director says 'I'm the director! Put that pistol up to your nose and stand directly over that mortar tube and pull the trigger on both' the heat falls on the director for putting the actor in harm's way.

DCSCA

'DHS pays over $455K to build 'security fencing' around Biden's beach home https://foxnews.com/politics/dhs-pays-over-455k-build-security-fencing-around-bidens-beach-home'

Gee. Rommel built an Atlantic Wall for Adolf, too. ;-)

Lots of left over steel rusting away in Texas. Maybe they can train it up on Amtrak, eh Joe?

MissMarple2

Observations and ideas about how to solve the port bottleneck:

Wrapped thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1451543776992845834.html

Davod

Found at Ace:
"In 2009 a skydiving instructor named Dave Hartsock took a 54-year-old woman on a tandem skydive. After the main chute failed, and the second got tangled, he told the woman to lift her feet. He then saved her life, by rotating their position, placing his body under hers to act as a cushion on impact. They both survived the accident, However, Hartsock is now paralyzed from the waist down.

Kickassfacts.com

Davod

DCSA. I blame the alcohol manufacturer.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

24 year old Hannah Gutierrez was the armorer on the film where Alec Baldwin shot the DP and Director.
Despite reports, she is IATSE 480. This was her second Union film. The prior film she worked on as armorer was flipped.

DCSCA

MissMarple- here's the reality of it.

Just bought a new Whirlpool refrigerator at Lowe's because Home Depot said they could not deliver one until March, 2022. So Lowe's delivers it and we discover the ice maker system doesn't match.

Seems Whirlpool changed the ice maker connector design in the freezers and all their 'new fridges' are shipped with it-- but the problem is, they failed to tell the retailers of the change and the new ice makers to match the new friges wont be available until MID-2022!!! So the warehouses of retailers across America are stocked w/inventory of the new refrigerators but do not have the 'new' ice makers to operate in them. So I ended up w/t floor model which is already set up.

This is the reality Joe doesn't get.

MissMarple2

The Jerusalem Post
@Jerusalem_Post
·
1h
BREAKING: The #US military killed Abdul Hamid al-Matar, a senior commander in #AlQaeda, in a #drone strike in #Syria on Friday night, the US CENTCOM spokesman announced.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

IATSE Local 44 has said that a live bullet was fired on set by Alec Baldwin. They also said that no Local 44 union members were on the set.
So, everyone who doesn't understand how the industry works are assuming that the production hired non-union people to work the props and weapons.
This is not true. Local 480 covers those departments in New Mexico. The departments WERE staffed by IATSE members, just local ones, not ones from Los Angeles.
And this is the problem. Over the last several decades, IATSE has become more and more aggressive in "flipping" shows. That means forcing a non-union show to become union. This gives them the pension and health money they need to pay for their older members. It's a glorified Ponzi scheme. So, non-union productions are forced to pay more money they don't have to the union and a bunch of non-union crew people, many with entry level skills and experience are now "union professionals".
It used to be that they wouldn't touch shows under $5 million. Then it became $1 million. Now there is no minimum and they attack shows as low as $250k in my experience.
And, make no mistake. They use intimidation, threats, and sabotage to force these shows to flip. I had one show where the other producers were scared, so I went, alone, to the IATSE headquarters in Manhattan to be yelled at, threatened and warned that my show would be sabotaged and I was in physical danger if I didn't negotiate with them.
Me being me, I laughed at them in the meeting and then managed to drag out the "negotiation" past the point of finishing the movie.
They really don't like me.
But, the point still stands that a union member is dead because there are inexperienced people out there commanding the salary and respect of trained professionals, especially in markets like New Mexico, Michigan, Georgia and Louisiana. Membership in the union used to take years and required people to work under much more experienced people to learn the craft.
Now, any clown with a couple of short films who gets hired on a movie can call in the union, conspire with them to flip the show, and end up walking away with a union card.
Current Hollywood is unlivable and dangerous. Between inexperienced yahoos commanding $35/hr, Covid protocols and someone's race, gender or sexual orientation trumping the quality of work or experience, I would not step foot on an IATSE show at this point.
It is unsafe and doomed to creative failure.
Sorry, not sorry to all my union friends because you guys know that I'm right.
And for the record, based on my experience I am eligible to be a member of IATSE Local 600, the DGA, the WGA and SAG. I have chosen, for political and moral reasons to never join any of them.

MissMarple2

DCSCA,

That's a good example. What about cardboard boxes, cans for food, paint, pencils, paper, thread, etc. etc?

Kraft may be able to make macaroni and cheese, but it has to be packaged. Coca Cola can't package Diet Coke without aluminum cans or plastic bottles. There are thousands of examples like yours and the ones I gave.

I have been listening to Peter Navarro and Bannon discuss this every few days on Bannon's show. I think we are going to see more serious problems over the winter.

Dave (in MA)
    So Lowe's delivers it and we discover the ice maker system doesn't match.
The bozo who owned our house before us had the water for the icemaker tied into the hot water supply. Our fridge didn't have an icemaker so we didn't really care, but you're not supposed to drink the water that comes from the water heater. There was an instant hot water dispenser under the sink, also hooked up to the hot water, which we used for quite a while before I discovered the situation.
DCSCA

MissMarple- Went shopping Thurs., and the grocery chain had a notice posted that Coke/Pepsi deliveries are suspended "indefinitely" due to that-- and not just for the can/bottle problem but the trucking problem as well.

Dave (in MA)
    "When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed. He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened." – Joe Biden
And that was when he was still sufficiently coherent enough to just sling his made-up BS without stammering and blanking out for 10 seconds at a time.
Ignatz Ratzkiwatzki

I hope RSE is doing ok.
She has a tough row to hoe.

DCSCA

Dave- what I found surprising was Whirlpool would make a design change like this and not tell the retailers about it. They're all stuck w/inventory they really can't sell now-- unless you don't want an ice maker. The Lowe's managers were furious and have a lot of Whirlpool models and said they won't be trying to sell any of them. I just was glad they had a fridge in stock to deliver as mine went bad two weeks ago. Home Depot was useless.

Apparently I was the second Lowe's customer who had this problem this week but they have to come in and remove one new fridge and install the other now this weekend. So this supply issue is very real.

DCSCA

And for the record, based on my experience I am eligible to be a member of IATSE Local 600, the DGA, the WGA and SAG. I have chosen, for political and moral reasons to never join any of them.

You should. Great bennies.

MissMarple2

I am going to head to bed.

Good night, all!

GUS

Dave in MA. Seriously. How would your average garden variety LIBTARD, know a focking thing about ST FRANKLIN of DELANO???
Our FOES are corrupting and communizing our country, with a FRESH BATCH of IMBECILES, nodding their heads. NOTHING NEW.

GUS

Stephanie. The GOOOOONIONS, should make a movie about L.A. and LONG BEACH being paralyzed by GAVIN THREESOME and rules against OWNER OPERATORS.
The products could be called GOOOOOONION PRODUCTS, and BIG JOE TEN PERCENT RUBBER DUCK BIDEN, could swoooop in, and fix this with his 18 wheeler and THE GOOOOOOOOONION.
Legs Up could do a cameo NUDE SCENE and VOILA!!!
Bobs your Uncle. Of course we'd need PETEY BIRD BUTTigieg TO play BAWTH HOGG.

Stephanie Nene Not Your Normal Granma

A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, watching his wife, who was looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off, he asked what she’d like as a gift. “I’d like to be eight again,” she replied, still looking in the mirror.

On the morning of her birthday, he rose early, made her a nice big bowl of Coco Pops, and then took her to Adventure World theme park.

What a day! He put her on every ride in the park; the Death Slide, the Wall of Fear, the Screaming Roller Coaster, everything there was.

Five hours later they staggered out of the theme park. Her head was reeling and her stomach felt upside down. He then took her to a McDonald’s where he ordered her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a chocolate shake.

Then it was off to a movie, with popcorn, a soda pop, and her favorite candy, M&Ms. What a fabulous adventure!

Finally she wobbled home with her husband and collapsed into bed, exhausted.

He leaned over his wife with a big smile and lovingly asked, "Well dear, what was it like being eight again?"

Her eyes slowly opened and her expression suddenly changed.

"I meant my dress size, you idiot!!!!"

The moral of the story: Even when a man is listening, he is gonna get it wrong.

lurkersusie

Navy Seal Claims Biden’s Federal COVID-19 Vaccine Mandate Violates Constitutional Rights, New Class Action Claims
Very long but the very important information is
highlighted.
Scroll down to paragraph 144 to the end for pertinent
information

https://cdn.locals.com/documents/47656/47656_ww3goeprr5s2dj6.pdf

GUS

Lurker Susie. Great to see you. I hope you know that I am a fan of yours.
I saw BIDEN on TV.....NEWSMAX, Lying his demented ass off. Talking about no vaccinated people and accusing them of purposely infecting those who are
FULLY EFFFFING VACCINATED, and even the same FULLY VACCINATED WEARING MASKS as well. It is PSYCHOTIC.
Biden has ALWAYS BEEN a lying bloviating clown. In his last loser years, he is BEGGGGGGING, for some sort of validation. NONE IS COMING. People often refer to TEACHER JILL as a willing enabler of this SICK PSYCHOPATH. SHE IS. It's about power and adulation. Biden has neither. He is the VICHY COMMIE. He is taking his orders from some demonic people. He has sold what little SOUL he has or had left, to be IMPORTANT. His disgusting wife has is all in.

Davod

US News: Chicken sh*t! Supt. Dr. Scott Ziegler deletes Twitter after email proves they ALL KNEW about sexual assault in LCPS high school bathroom.

Isn't it illegal to delete information from a government twitter account?

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